Abtigiis saaka waa u baqsanahay rag aan Soomaaliya ku korin oo xifaalo iyo kaftan aqoon oo qurbaha ka tegay baa kaftanka uu SOL ku hayyo ugu hanjabaya Waxaan kaa rabaa inaad ii sheegto dhibka dhici kara haddii odoga iyo ushiisu Xamar ka degaan oo caleema saarka ka qaybgalaan.

Actually what he said in the interview is quite correct with respect to dealing with Somaliland admin.

Alpha Blondy;869035 wrote: ^ the fact that you think your in the same category as AT is laughable. Control your emotions waryaa, and dont harm people based on online political debates, however passionate those debates may be. That is the word

Alphan Blondy , Pledging protection for professor Abtigiis while issuing threats to xiinfaniin hardly reassures the folks of this fora. If anything it reenforces my assertion that Mr Blondy is indeed , and quite sadly, possessed with strong emotions

Alpha, I am sorry, I do not remember you. Even if it is true that you exchanged PMs with xiin under different pen name, it is not relevant. What is relevant now is to control the strong emotions you showed in your exchange with the Professor. After all the good Professor is in Hargeysa hence his safety can easily be breached ...

Xaaji Xunjuf ma joogaa saaka? Xalaa Hargeysa layga soo wacay

Abtigiis, North is not known to be a zealot either, inkastoo uu nimankii gacanta fududaa kasoo jeedo, laakiin the Love Mother has learned a lot since her ascendancy to the throne. Jacaylbaro, from what I heard, is not to be worried either: he is student of Sheekh Cali Warsame thusly his exposure to the tafseer in suuratul baqara baa dabar u ah. Iga hubi midkaan Alpha la leeyahay, he reminds me one secessionist in Minneapolis who always visits us in First Cup coffee armed with Somaliland flag, bomb toys and knives.

Judging by the passionate responses Professor Abtigiis's thread got from Somalilanders, his 'mood-in-Hargeysa-is-changing' assertion must enjoy credible resonance with the average Qowdhan in the street. Abtigiis, I suggest you to take care of your safety first , taasaa mudnaanta koowaad leh. Alpha's xamaasad worries me a bit.

^^You are convincing, Xaaji Xunjuf. No country has a diplomatic relationship with Hargeysa Once again, dont you think it is about time to come home and stop running?

In Somalia, the president is the head of state. His powers are clear, and quite extensive . It is time to move on.

^^But the point still stands. You went every where except Somalia. Now is the time to stop running from yourself . Now is the time to come home and celebrate with your people .

Xaaji Xunjuf, Now is the time to come home . Your leadership went to South Sudan uninvited, why not Mogadishu I ask? Now is the time do away this cuqdad , the grudges. Now is the time to realize Macno Yare' s Hargeysa-Mogadishu alliance proposition . Now is the time ...

We have a mature president who understands where we are at today , understands the suffering... But much remain to be seen, a lot will depend how he navigates political challenges domestic and foreign

Xaaji Xunjuf and co, This represents a great opportunity to do the right thing, and celebrate with your people. When Adan Cadde died, your leadership did not show respect , when Abdullaahi Yusuf died your leadership did not participate in jinaazah, but when Zenawi died you were the first to go. Now is the time my brothers. Do the right thing, and come to Mogadishu

General Duke;868582 wrote: ^^^ I agree with you, however he will insist he is equal to these men, and Somalia should not allow that. Like Faroole he can be a regional President, but he is not on the level of Uganda, Ethiopia and so on.. ^^He can move few rows to be close to the foreign leaders like he did in London. But Duke as you and I know that would not change his status

Macno Yare's clannish appeal misses the point...

^^It will make him small to not go when Gheelle, Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Kenyan, Uganda, and other African and Arab leaders go to Mogadishu. It will be a tragic if he misses to make the good gesture ... This is a test like no other, Duke.

Professor Samatar, Dr. Ali Ciise Abdi, Hussein Khalif should also be on the list...

On the 16th of this month, inauguration ceremony will be held in Mogadishu to mark the end of transition, the new president and parliament. It is expected that many regional leaders will come to Mogadishu to participate and celebrate with the Somali people. The question is will Siilaanyo of Hargeysa come to Mogadishu ? This is a moment of truth for him to rise above the narrow politics of the North. I also expect Faroole to be amongst leaders coming to the ceremony. But Faroole has done so for numerous occasions. It is president Siilaanyo of Somaliland region that will be tested this time. It is a moment of truth.

^^ :D Hillary baad u dardaar werinaysaa xaaji, maaha? At least you and Ayoub have made clear that you will support the looming union if done right

Professor Abtigiis's read is correct... It is not healthy to argue for the sake of argument. The notion of separating Somalia has been effectively dispelled in London Conference on Somalia. I saw Somaliland delegates in Istanbul and they were perfectly happy in participating not only the development sessions, but the political sessions amongst Somali stakeholders, which was a clear contrast to what the media in Hargeysa was feeding the masses. The era where even ngogne used to argue Somaliland students traveled Somaliland passport to Turkey is behind us. With respect to Somalia/Somaliland talks, Somaliland's insistence on International cover, respect from Mogadishu has been granted. But the end result will not change ---it is all about finding a face saving political incorporation into Mogadishu.

http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2012/sept/25925/destructive_governance_model_for_somalia_the_case_of_prof_ken_menkhaus.aspx

The election of Hassan Sheikh Mohamud could end an era of hopelessness in Somalia David Blair Wednesday, September 12, 2012 Only a few years ago, Somalia’s official government could not even enter the country and its ministers were forced to live in exile in Kenya. Then it moved into the country, but only as far as the ruined provincial town of Baidoa. The national capital, Mogadishu, was out of bounds, firmly in the hands of extreme Islamists allied to al-Qaeda. Today, President Mohamud will take over a government that is based in Mogadishu with a good measure of control over the city and the surrounding area. For the first time since 1991, an internationally recognised administration actually holds sway over the national capital. By Somalia’s standards, that counts as a stellar achievement. The credit goes largely to 9,000 Ugandan and Burundian soldiers deployed in Mogadishu by the African Union. They took on the Islamists from al-Shabaab and rolled them back, street by street, until they were finally expelled from the city at the beginning of this year. Today, al-Shabaab still controls most of southern Somalia, but they only have one remaining urban stronghold: the southern port town of Kismayo. If they were ever to lose that, al-Shabaab would also be deprived of a vital source of revenue. And the signs are that the AU force, with its proven ability to take on al-Shabaab and beat them, will move against Kismayo at some stage. But a huge responsibility falls on the shoulders of the new president. Somalia’s official government has been riddled with corruption and infighting. He must ensure that a functioning administration will be able to govern the areas that are recaptured from al-Shabaab. It would be a tragedy if the African Union force pays the blood price for victories over the Islamists, only for these hard won gains to be squandered by the failings of Somalia’s government. President Mohamud must keep Somalia on its slow path towards recovery. Source: The Telegraph

Beckoning the Future: Somalia's New President Hassan Sh. Mahmoud WardheerNews Sept. 12, 2012 http://www.wardheernews.com/Editorial/Edit_2012/WDN_Edit_Sept_12_12.html

Somalia’s New President: A Victory for Islamic Groups By Hassan M. Abukar Sept. 11, 2012 On Monday, Somalia selected a new president, Hassan Sh. Mohamoud, an Islamist. Mohamoud has been an Islamic activist for a long time. He is counted as one of the sympathizers of the New Blood, a group of Islamists who broke away from al-Islah, Somalia’s Muslim Brotherhood, during the reign of the Islamic Courts Union. I use the word “counted,” because there is no record of Mohamoud as a member of any Islamic group. What is not in doubt is the fact that he is an Islamist of the Muslim Brotherhood persuasion. Rival candidate Abdurrahman Baadiyow, on the other hand, has been a member of al-Islah more than two decades. One phenomenon that was apparent during Monday’s selection process was the prevalence of Islamists among the candidates best able to generate votes in the first round of the election. For instance, four of the six highest vote getters were Islamists: Hassan Sh. Mohamoud, Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, Abdurrahman Baadiyow, and Abdulkhadir Ossoble. Each of these four candidates is believed to represent four different trends: Tajamuc or Ala-Sheikh (Shaikh Sharif), al-Islah (Baadiyow), Ossoble (al-Ictisaam) and Mohamoud (the New Blood). Professor Afyare Elmi of Qatar University was prescient when he predicted in 2010 that Islamists would rule Somalia one day. The Arab Spring has brought the Islamic movements to the forefront of political power. One can confidently say that the four Islamists did a remarkable job garnering votes. Baadiyow was articulate and bold in his presidential campaign speech before the Somali parliament which he declared that the current Transitional Federal Government leaders were failures. He did not get the votes that he had hoped; the recent turmoil in al-Islah did not make things easier for him. The good news is that the Islamists are more likely to learn from this new political experience. Still, the Islamists in Somalia have not reached the level at which they can mobilize the masses for political purposes and win elections. They are in a early stage where personality dominates the political process rather than the institutions. The new president did not win because he is the founder/leader of a political party called Peace and Development Party (PDP). He won, in part, by forging alliances with various clans and capitalizing on the lawmakers’ dissatisfaction with the status quo. Somalia, like Tunisia and Egypt, will test Islamist leaders who are at the helm. Muslims in these countries have granted Islamists a chance because they see them as clean and not corrupt. Now, the ball is in the courts of the Islamists. Will they rule by building coalitions and leading by example? Will they be tolerant, unifiers, and fight for justice and equality before the law? Many Somalis are optimistic that Somalia is headed in the right direction. It was impossible, two years ago, to move around Mogadishu safely. Today, the country is enjoying relative peace, and the days of chaos, political cannibalism, and warlords are behind us. US Republican Senator Mitch McConnell said in 2010 that he wanted President Obama to fail. Many of us, on the contrary, are praying for Somalia’s new president to succeed. Hassan M. Abukar WardheerNews E-Mail:Abukar60@yahoo.c