^ What utter nonsense. I am fully represented in these talks. In case, you've just crawled out from under a rock, which by the way seems very likely, I and all the other citizens of Somalia are being represented by the Interior Minister of the Somali Federal Government. As for the politics of the Hags and pirates, that just nothing more than brotherly rivalry. Meeshaan labo walaala ah oo dharagsan baa macmacaanki ku lag damaya, marka naf haka dhiganin HAG iyo Pirate baa dirirsan, axmaqyahow. War anaku weligiin baanu diririjirnay, laakin we will never compromise our Somalinimo, unlike some cry baby secessionist who upto this days whines about their a$$es being kicked in the late 80's. Anyway to each his own. We and HAG will fight one another, but continue to agree that sedex inaan idinku qabno. That's the way of a true hustler!

^ Could you simplify your statements, because I don't understand gibberish. What the HELL did you just say?

^ War anoo burcad ah baa ku leeyahay, Somalia sedex bey idinku qabtaa, weligeedna xabad dhalaaq ah ka ma heleysaan ee bal isku dirka aad naf ka dayanaysid iska yaree! Reer Muqdisho iyo anaga Soomaalinimo, walaaltinimo, iyo wadaninimo ayaa naga dhaxaysa, si kasta oo aan siyaasada iskaga hor imaadno, weligeen Somalia midnimadeeda heshiis baan ku nahay...diid ama ha diidin. Marka topic-gaan aad mar walba dhan ula carareysid sidii qof waalan naga daa....meeshaan waxa kaliya oo looga hadlayey waxay ahayd hadiyada air-controllada oo Mudane Madaxweyne Axmad Shiekh Maxamuud uu ku maslaxayo habraha waalwaalan ee waqooyiga. ee ma ahayn cantarabaqashkaan aad lasoo shir tagtay oo ah isku dirka ummad Soomaaliyeed. Xaaji, step up your game homie!

^ Rubbish. The Somali Federal government is enforcing the law. They're ensuring that this law is not being violated by agreeing to sit with the habro in Turkey. Now you may think their method of enforcing this law is rather feeble, but at the moment it's the most effective way of placating the mad habro of the north and ensuring the unity of the nation.

Xaaji Xunjuf;967811 wrote: What other institutions SL just allow an office in their capital which will manage the airspace of Somaiia and Somaliland the air traffic control of both the 2 countries is also agreed that this body will propose a mechanism for equitable revenue-sharing. I think this is a good solution for both sides for now. What other goverment institutions Somalia's leaders cannot even visit Somaliland. This is good for Somaliland Mogadishu could have said we do not want to share the revenues we will manage it but it shows that there was a compromise there. All the other points were not agreed on and i am not expecting remember Somalia suggested to hold talks in either Somalia or Somaliland this was rejected. Somalia wanted their politicians to visit Somaliland this was also rejected. And they wanted to keep the unity of Somalia and Somaliland this was also rejected. So the talks on all the other points were a failure. Laakin kooxda budhcadbeedku ha isku maweeliyaan Somaliland ba no so soctta. There is a saying that goes something along the lines of,"Rome was not built in a day". So just like Rome, maslaxaada habraha will not occur in one day, since especially habartu mid suurooneysa weeye! The question here is not whether unity was rejected, as you foolishly allude, but rather if Secession from Somalia is even feasible under the current circumstances of magdhow and maslaxaad. Aniga somaliland weligeed meelna iga ma jirin, meelna iigama socoto ee bal madaxa aad darbiga ku garaacaysid jooji!

^ Is there anything you're an expert on besides spewing hot air on these threads? FYI, that constitution of 1960, and all the subsequent ones up to the current one all proclaim that the unity and territorial integrity of Somalia is sacrosanct and inviolable. Meaning it cannot be reversed or altered in anyway whatsoever. Now you tell us, why you posted the union article of the constitution without the rest of the constitution. You see, it doesn't hurt to keep things in perspective...

^ War doqonnimada jooji...anigoo burcad ah oo reer garoowe ah, waxaan kamid ahay Soomaaliyada aad hor fadhidid Ankara oo aad magdhow aad ka baryeesid. Marka jooji ninyahow sida nacasnimada ah aad u hadlaysid oo naga gudoon air-controllada aan dhankiina u soo wadno! Somalia is I, and I am Somalia.

^ woopty doo yee! It's a victory. I wish you many more, including Villa Somalia in Hargaysa. You asked for magdhow, and now you have it. Airspace is but the tip of the ice-berg. Many more Somali Federal government institutions will be heading your way, saaxiib. So more victories coming your way also.

Xaaji Xunjuf;967800 wrote: I dont know anything about the Law of Somalia, Somaliland cannot break Somalia's laws because Somalia's laws are not Somaliland laws, why dont you tell us what it says. No. The same law you posted, was part of the first constitution of Somalia...so tell us, dear friend, what that constitution said about breaking the law you've posted? Or is my language too difficult to understand?

Xaaji Xunjuf;967798 wrote: The same Somali federal goverment your clan wants to bring down because it refuses to cooperate with the clan state you support in Kismayo that Somali federal government.Somaliland will talk to the Somali federal government , but you are still not welcome in Somaliland pirates are only welcome in SL prisons. You should read more about the Somalia and Somaliland dialogue and guess when it started last year its a process of building some kind of trust but the 2 countries after 72 hours talking they could not agree on the fundamental conflict. But this does not concern you do not speak for Xamar SL speaks to your HAG overlords. Oh so now the goal post has moved from the topic of the thread to the political dynamics of my clan and my federal government, has it? Biyaha iyo olyada isku dar mar walba aad rabtid inaad runta iska indho tiritid! I agree, Xaaji Habaar, that the main objective of these talks is to build "trust" between the Habro and the Federal government, which in my opinion, is the same as maslaxaada habraha by Mudane President Xassan Sheikh Maxamuud. Haye, orod waalo, I didn't call him Culosow...lol:D

GAROODI;967794 wrote: ^^^^ looool look who is talking pirates who have lost land to the landers and all respect if they had any. And Moryaan who are ordered by African Ugandans. Saxibyal runta anu isu Shegno. Somalia is dead. the world knows it, Hassan sheick and Somalians know it and we know it. No unity will ever happen again we all know that. These conferences are designed with one objective to highlight to the world the SOMALILAND case to strengthen its position and gain more and further weaken the Somalian argument by sitting down you set a presedent that is in my favour. So pirates and Moryaan keep dreaming this is bigger then you ^^^^ looool look who is talking a mad habar who has lost all hopes of international recognition and all dignity if they had any. Saxib runta aan kuu sheego. Somaliland is dead. the world never knew it and does not even care. Ahmed Silanyo and the mad habro know it, and the rest of Somalia knows. No secession will ever happen and we all know that. These conferences are designed with one objective to highlight to the world that SOMALILAND is going nowhere and that they will be placated with a few concessions and the unity of MOTHER SOMALIA is sacrosanct, which will further demoralize the already frustrated habro, which will ultimate be a positive for us, true Somalis. So my dear troglodyte from the habro enclave keep dreaming for la-la land will never be.

Waxaa dhamaaday wadahadalkii labada maalmood magaalada Istaanbul ee dalka Turkiga uga socday wafuud ka kala socotay Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland, kuwaasi oo ka wada hadlayey qodobo gaaraya 10 oo la xariiray xiriirka Somaliland iyo Federaalka Soomaaliya. Kulankan oo marar badan qarka u joogsaday in uu burburo ayaa gebo gebadii laga soo saaray 3 qodob oo la sheegay inay isku afgarteen wafuudii labada dhinac ka kala socotay. Qodobada is afgaradka laga soo saaray ayaa kala ah 1- In Somaliya maamulida Hawada kala wareegto Qaramada Midoobay 2- In hawshaan uu la wareego guddi labada dhinac ka socda oo fadhigoodu noqon doono (Hargeysa). 3- In muddo 4 bilood gudahood ah markale labada dhinac isugu yimaadaan wadahadalka oo sii socon doona. Qodobadan ayaa muujinaya sida la isugu mari waayey qodobadii kale ee muhiimka ahaa sida madax banaanida Somaliland, balse wafdiga Somaliland ayaa ku guuleysatay inuu hal qodob oo muhiim u ah loo fuliyo kaasi oo aahaa inaan marnaba Hawada Soomaaliya laga hagin magaalada Muqdisho, arrintaasi oo uu maamulka Soomaliland si weyn u qaadacay tan iyo heshiiskii bishii May magaalada Muqdisho ku kala saxiixdeen Wasaarada Isgaarsiinta iyo Hay’ada Qaramada Midoobay u qaabilsaneyd arrimaha hagida hawada Somaliya. Qodobkan wax faah faahin dheeraad ah kama bixin in Qalabkii lagu waday in Airporka Muqdisho lagu rakibo ee hagida hawada Soomaaliya, loo wareejin doono magaalada Hargeysa iyo in kale, balse mar walba wuxuu qodobka kasoo baxay shirka Istanbuul guul u yahay wafdiga Soomaaliland oo ku adkeystay in diyaaradaha hawada Somaliland maraya aan laga hagi karin magaalada Muqdisho. Wafdiga ka socday dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa hogaaminayey Cabdikarim Xusen Guleed, halka wafdiga Soomaaliland uu hogaaminayo Wasiirka Ganacsiga Maxamed Cumar oo horey u ahaan jiray Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada ee Somaliland. Macada sababta keentay in kulankan qodobadii la isku afgaran waayey in laga soo dhex saaro arrinta Hawada Soomaaliya, balse waxaa lagu sheegay inuu ahaa qodob ay si weyn ugu dheganaayeen wafdiga Somaliland, hadii qalabkii hawada Somaliya lagu hagi lahaa xarun loga dhigo Hargeysa, waa mid guul u ah maamulka Somaliland. Qodobada kale ee labada dhinac la yimaadeen ayaa ahaa kuwo aan horey loo fileyn in wax is-afgarad ah laga gaaro, maadaama ay aad ugu kala aragti duwanaayeen labada dhinac. Horey ayey u jireen xildhibaano kamid ah Baarlamaanka Federaalka Soomaaliya oo ku eedeeyey wadahadaladii horey uga dhacay dalka Turkiga ee dhexmaray wafuuda Federaalka iyo Somaliland, in meel ka dhac uu ku ahaa midnimada Soomaaliya, iyadoo aan la aqoon sida ay xildhibaanada Soomaaliya usoo dhaweyn doonaan qodobka ku aadan Hawada Soomaaliya in guddiga hagi doono uu noqonayo mid fadhigiisu yahay magaalada Hargeysa. Maamulka Somaliland ayaa horey amaro u soo saaray in Somaliland aysan soo cago dhigan karin diyaarado fasax laga soosiiyey Muqdisho, wuxuuna maamulkaasi horey u dhaqan geliyey in xabsi la geliyo xubnaha xilalka ka haya Dowlada Federaalka ee booqashada ku taga dhulka uu ka taliyo maamulka Soomaliland. Horseed Media News Desk

You know it would be nice to keep this thread unadulterated by deceptive spin and lies. No where in the agreement did it say that Air control of Somaliland ONLY will be done out of Hargaysa. It says all of the air space of Somalia will be managed out of Hargaysa. The delegates to the talks have agreed to the following: Item No.1: Somalia air control will be reverted back into the hands of Somalia from the hands of the United Nations. Item No.2: That a commission that includes members from somaliland will be created to perform the aforementioned task, which is going to be housed in Hargaysa. Item No.3: The parties to the talks will meet again 4 months from now. So spin it whichever way you wish, but Hargaysa is a city of Somalia and can have any Somali Federal agency or ministry based in it, and not just the air control department of Somalia.

I think Amin Amir got the idea for this painting from this thread by Abtigiis... http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/72206-Kismaayo-Premier-League

Xaaji, what does the law of Somalia say about those who try to break that law?

Xaaji Xunjuf;967759 wrote: Nope you are not welcome in Hargeysa Oo yaa adiga kaala tashanayo, alwaaxyahow? What a non-thinking individual like yourself fails to see is that these talks are merely a formality for Silanyo's cabal to save face with the habro clans by insisting upon many concessions from Xamar to placate their bruised egos, which by all means Xamar will agree to. The Somali Federal Government will simply do almost anything for maslaxada habraha waqooyiga

Air control is nothing. We want to move our national capital from the anarchist infested Mogadishu to peaceful Hargaysa. I am personally lobbying for this. That way we can appease the deranged secessionists and give the moryans time to reflect on how naughty they've been...

Miyir;967363 wrote: Looking at Qoslaaye and gang action so far, I am not sure about this turning back. His actions so far have led him no where, and he realizes that now. Expect to see a reformed Culosow in the coming days, sxb.

^ Politicians will be politicians.

Cambuulo iyo bun;967630 wrote: I got puntland relatives from Gaalkacyo sugarcoat is much as you want but both of us know he doesn't have much support from that town. From "he hasn't done anything for Galkacyo" to "he doesn't have support from that town"... Caqli Cambuulo, why do you jump from one issue to the next like a headless chicken? I asked, when you made the statement that Faroole has done nothing for Galkacyo, to tell us what you base that statement upon? Now when you answer that question, then we can gradually move on to your next amusing statement about your relatives from Galkacyo.

Cambuulo iyo bun;967592 wrote: well i don't blame the people of Gaalkacyo being unhappy with faroole he has done nothing for them. When is the election btw? And what do you base this assumption on, oh mighty caqli Cambuulo?

Lol@ anti-democracy rebels:D

Weligiin Ku qaras baxa Faysal Cali Waraabe...Wa'cade, dhalaaqdan waa mid si fudud aan looga heleyn ummada Soomaaliyeed oo sedex idinku qaba! Marka, weligiin bakh bakh leeye sidii naag loo diiday ina la furo.

Mogadishu wants to do a switch and bait. Be forewarned: Somaliland should NEVER accept such skullduggery!

Xassan Guriceel is full of hot air.