Stealth Especially, when they know how the Somalis in Ethiopia are treated. What do you call a group of people are fooled every minute. They are blinding themselves, defying themselves, and muting themselves. It seems as if they’re futile beings. What gets me pissed is the UN is on their way to Somalia. Does anyone have any idea what those UN troops did to poor Somalis in 93? They haven’t yet apologized or stated any condemnation, yet they have the impudence to march into Somalia again. The lives of our people have become valueless, even animals aren’t disrespected the way the Somalis are in their own country. Shame, Shame…….

Our so called leaders are to blame. Iran isn’t in turmoil, but America is using propaganda to attack Iran. America can’t directly attack Iran, unless they use A-bombs on Iran. Ahmedenijad held an Anti-US Rally in the UAE, so no surprise there. Sudan is also being exaggerated, America wants the oil in Sudan, it is black on black violence, yet they portray it as an Arab on Black violence. More propaganda from American Pakistan has a dictator which is pro-American, he is a ruthless one, and the people are getting tried of him. Afghanistan was ones supported by America, the Taliban were called Freedom fighters by Regan and today when they dismissed American orders. merican used 9/11 as an excuse, attacked the country and installed a slave regime, like the ones in Somalia and Iraq today. Iraq fell due to Saddam’s sortsightedness and pro-Americanism. America supported and aided Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war, provided him with nuclear and chemical weapons and they ended-up hanging his little behind. He had it coming, he should have being a lesson to all those to kneel to America. They will be used and abused! Turkey has its own troubles, I haven’t paid much attention to the news coming out of Turkey, but I heard the protests are mainly against the Islamic upraising. They wish to remain a secular nation. I won’t be surprised if America is somehow behind these. At the end, Muslims betray themselves. Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, and Somalia. Soon you will see Turkey, Iran and Sudan taking the same route. These traitors are dangerous and more deadly than the enemy itself. French has just elected a Jew President, who gave the Muslims there the finger.

^^Ha, you mean Ethiopia can learn a lot from Israel, as to how to settle more Ethiopians in Somalia soil. They’re almost have way finished. Somalia is worse than Palestine, at least the Palestinians didn't betray themselves, even thou their Arab brethrens had betrayed them just like some of our Somali brethrens have betrayed Somalia.

Nop, not the Somali flag, but the Clan flag.

Originally posted by Ebyan: quote:Originally posted by Wisdom_Seeker: quote: Originally posted by Ebyan: Hmmmm..Is it just me or are my replys disappearing? :confused: Anyway, clan elders have done a lot for Somalia post-91..It was a meeting of clan-elders that led to the formation of Puntland and I'm sure clan-elders in the south have done a lot for their people so don't disrespect their efforts. I'm out.. If Puntland is so great, go live there and leave your welfare consuming life behind…. Somalia as a whole is a hell-hole. A Fact. Yeah, Puntland is great and when the time comes I will relocate there, but by all means you can continue your ever-redundant calacaal from your comfortable subsidized housing complex. I wouldn't knock government hand-outs if I were you. LOL, yeah that’s what they all say. Tell me when that “time” comes. I don’t take pity charities, but I don’t want to discourage you at all. So enjoy them while they are in your disposal.

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: ^^ Wake up buddy. I barely now my clan or subclan or whatever myself because I was raised in the diaspora and dont have any incumbent clan mentality; that doesnt make me blind and ignorant to the fact that the Clan Factor still rules in Somalia. Yes, it did work miracles in Puntland and yes, it also worked miracles in Somaliland. You try to bypass the importance of understanding and handling the clan issue in Somalia in a good way and you might as well stay in your comfortable Columbus Ohio appartment and leave the case to ppl who can handle it. I am wake alright. The Somalis in Diaspora are more clannish than the Somalis in Somalia. Those in Somalia are sick of clan, and are worried about how they are going to survive the night and bring some food to the table. I believe the majority of Mogadishu civilians supported the ICU, whether that was due to clan or religion it really doesn’t matter, at the end Ethiopian and American forces were used to oust them. It’s kind of unfair won’t you say, since Somaliland and Puntland organizations aren’t being oust by Ethiopian or Ameriacan forces, Oops I forget, they are puppets of Ethiopia, obedient servants and now the South is going to be also an obedient servant. Sorry don’t’ live in Ohio, try Utah sxb. I am glad I don’t see Somalis who support the occupation of their own country anywhere near me.

Originally posted by Ebyan: Hmmmm..Is it just me or are my replys disappearing? :confused: Anyway, clan elders have done a lot for Somalia post-91..It was a meeting of clan-elders that led to the formation of Puntland and I'm sure clan-elders in the south have done a lot for their people so don't disrespect their efforts. I'm out.. If Puntland is so great, go live there and leave your welfare consuming life behind…. Somalia as a whole is a hell-hole. A Fact.

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: LOL Ebyan, I second that the "Welcome to the 21st century" sure was amusing. Someones been watching too many western movies and have lost grip of whats going on at the ground in the devastated anarchich southern Somalia. A place were peace have become a commodity that certain groups raced to capitalize on big time by setting up an useless quasi-government under the umbrella of the holy religion. The ICU group was like the crooked guys over at Enron, only thing is that the ICU gang wasnt the smartest guys in the room. Better luck next time...oops I forgot, there wont be any next time. The fat lady that was supposed to entertain us is in lock! I wonder what made Somalia what it’s today…..wasn’t it all because of Clan. At least the ICU was a grass-root organization, while the slave regime is a foreign lead organization. I don’t think the supporters of the slave regime are in any position to talk, it lacks both legitimacy and the support of the people. You should all leave your clan-mentality back in your villages....

Originally posted by Ebyan: Shoulds, woulds, coulds. The meeting of these clan-elders with A/Y means that most members of these clan will support the TFG. A few people here and there opposing the TFG means nothing. P.S.- Somali politics is clan politics. It means nothing, clan-leaders didn’t do anything for the past 16 years, and they didn’t protect the people that needed them the most. Force and power which was directed at them is what is making them talk. Their title is insignificant……It means nothing! They are powerless and inadequate. Corruption, poverty, third world nation, going in circles, like father like son, all followers preach the same thing. Clan has done nothing for the Somali nation.... Move on ---->

Ebyan, Ebyan, Ebyan. We are talking about a government here, not a clan. We made it a clan-based society and we could easily change it. The only thing they need to do is address the poor people regardless of their clan/tribe background. Clan and Politics should be separated, for the sake of living in a peaceful undiscriminating society. They don't have the support of the “people”. I am certain that there are people from different clans and tribes which oppose the slave regime. So no one can precisely state that they have clan support. No one is taking away their clan that's something that runs through their veins. But they shouldn’t be generalized due to their clan either. It is as simple as that. Lol, Somalis from all clans, even the ones from the dominate clans are suffering, so spare me the lecture of clan protection.

Originally posted by Ebyan: quote:Originally posted by Wisdom_Seeker: Each clan? Instead of saying “people” you say” clans”? No wonder your vision is distorted. Do honestly believe that if one man from a certain clan supports the slave regime that he represents the acceptance of the slave regime by his whole clan? Yes, if he's a clan-elder then he represents the collective opinion of his tribe/clan. The TFG recognizes the reality on the ground..Somalia is a clan based country..The 'people' belong to specific tribes and clans and resolving any issues with a segment of the population means doing it at a clan-based level. There's nothing distorted about their vision. It’s a distorted vision. Corrupted men, whether they are leaders or not have abused the privileges and left our people poor and undernourished by filling their stomachs in the name of clan. The time has come to stop these goons from doing any more damage to the innocent people which they only claim to represent. Hunger, impoverishment, joblessness, homeless, and being underprivileged isn’t limited to a certain clan/tribe. It affects all people from different walks of life. If the government can’t address those people and only damages and destroys what little they have, then the government isn’t for the interest of the people. Somalis as individuals all need equal help. Intertwining clan mentality with everything is deadly. The TFG is promoting only clan mentality, the same mentality that has brought as where we’re today. No one shall be spoken for, everyone has a mouth and if Somalis along with the slave regime claims to be a democratic regime then it is time to start walking the walk! We don’t live in a small village where we have a clan leader who lives in the biggest hut in the village and marries as much wives as he wants and tells people what to do and think. :rolleyes: Welcome to the 21st century...The people as individuals rule. :cool:

LIP-SERVICE? How nice of the slaves of Western Nations.

Violence raged in Iraq on Sunday, with more than 60 people killed and dozens wounded in two separate bombings, police said. The first explosion took place in the northern town of Makhmur when a truck bomb exploded near government buildings and the local office of a leading Kurdish party, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP). At least 50 people died in the attack, a security official said. A lot of bodies were buried under rubble and the death toll is expected to rise, he added. Security sources said the KDP, which is led by president of the Kurdish autonomous region, Massoud Barzani, was holding a local meeting when the bomb exploded. Last week, a truck bomb in the city of Irbil near the Kurdish interior ministry killed at least 15 people and wounded dozens. Daily bombings and instability that have plagued much of Iraq remain rare in the country's north. But political tensions escalated in the predominantly Kurdish region over the drafting of a bill that would redistribute oil wealth among the country's Kurdish, Sunni and Shia population. Most of Iraq's oil is concentrated around the Kurdish north and Shia south. Also Sunday, a car bomb exploded near a market in the Sadriyah district of central Baghdad, killing at least 10 people and wounding 45 others. Last month, a car explosion in the same killed 140 people, the deadliest attack since the U.S. launched a security crackdown in Baghdad four months ago. U.S. army still searching for missing troops The U.S. army launched a massive search operation involving more than 4,000 U.S. soldiers to find three soldiers who went missing after an attack in southern Baghdad that killed five members of a joint U.S.-Iraqi patrol on Saturday. The U.S. army said an Iraqi interpreter was killed along with four American soldiers during the pre-dawn ambush, confirming that the three missing soldiers are all Americans. "Everybody is fully engaged, the commanders are intimately focused on this, every asset we have from national assets to tactical assets ... are being used all the way down to the 4,000 troops ... to locate these three missing soldiers," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Iraq said. Earlier Sunday, a group allegedly linked to al-Qaeda in Iraq said in an Internet statement that it’s responsible for yesterday’s attack and that it’s holding the missing troops. The unknown group didn’t provide evidence to back up its claim. -- AJP and Agencies

Israel decided to allocate almost $1.5 billion to develop Jewish areas in Jerusalem after a new report showed that the growing Arab community in the city could overtake the Jewish population. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said at a special cabinet meeting marking 40 years since what Israel calls the "reunification" of Jerusalem that the government is going to a series of plans to develop the city. The approved measures include tax cuts to encourage public investment, moving all government offices to Jerusalem, building a new court complex and a new center for Jerusalem studies. Israel seized East Jerusalem in 1967, and annexed the area is 1981 in a move not recognized by the international community. Uri Lupolianski, Jerusalem mayor told the cabinet session that the city's Jewish population should be strengthened. "The demographic problem is a very difficult one for us. According to statistics, even though we talk about Jewish sovereignty, Jerusalem may not remain for eternity under Jewish leadership and sovereignty," Lupolianski said. "Jerusalem might fall in the hands of Hamas which knows that it doesn't have to conquer Jerusalem by war but through demographic means. Hamas knows that within 12 years it could take over Jerusalem through the demography," he claimed. The number of Arabs in Jerusalem is said to have grown twice as fast as its Jewish population over the past decade, according to an Israeli research institute. The Arab population has grown by 257 percent from 68,000 to 245,000 in the past 40 years, while the number of Jews has risen by 140 percent from 200,000 to 475,000, said the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies. “Tightening the noose around Palestinians” Last week, the Israeli government announced plans to build three new Jewish neighborhoods in Arab East Jerusalem, an area considered occupied under international law. The plan, under which 20,000 new homes would be built for Jewish settlers, is aimed at creating a contiguous Jewish residential area linking East Jerusalem with major West Bank settlement blocs. Palestinian leaders strongly denounced the Israeli plan. “The Israeli government must choose between settlements and peace. They can not have both,” Palestinian chief negotiator said. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Sheikh Mohammad Al-Mufti also said the planned construction is part of a wider Israeli plan to Judaize Jerusalem and kick the Palestinians out of it. "The occupation authorities have been buildings thousands of construction units while tightening the noose around the Palestinians with construction of the racial separation wall and imposition of heavy taxes,” Sheikh Mufti said. About 260,000 Jewish settlers and 2.5 million Palestinians live in the West Bank. The World Court has branded all Israeli settlements as illegal. Moreover, settlement expansion and construction in the occupied West Bank violate a U.S.-backed Israeli-Palestinian peace plan known as the "road map", which calls for an independent state for the Palestinians. -- AJP and Agencies SOURCE

By Amina Anderson One in every eight children in Iraq will not reach the age of five. There are no medical equipment, no medicines, and no doctors in a country plagued by raging violence that have claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. "Iraq’s child mortality rate has increased by a staggering 150 percent since 1990. Some 122,000 Iraqi children died in 2005 before reaching their fifth birthday. More than half of these deaths were among newborn babies in the first month of life," according to a recent report published by the U.S.-based Save the Children organization. The report paints a bleak picture of Iraq’s future given that 60% of the country’s population is comprised of children, whose plight began in 1990, when the United Nations imposed sanctions against Baghdad after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. The sanctions against Iraq, the toughest and most comprehensive in history, have caused severe humanitarian problems and led to the resignation of two top UN officials. "We are in the process of destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying as that. It is illegal and immoral,” said Denis Halliday, after resigning in 1998 as first UN Assistant Secretary General and Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq. The sanctions continued until the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. Since then, thousands of children have been killed. Hundreds have lost limbs in rebel attacks or U.S. raids. Acute malnutrition among young children has nearly doubled. What’s more shocking is that U.S. troops abuse Iraqi children to force their parents to give information to interrogators. The U.S. Sgt. Samuel Provance, one of the first whistleblowers about the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal, spoke about one incident in which he witnessed a 16-year-old Iraqi boy being abused. “As soon as I saw him for the first time and led him to the interrogation, I felt sorry for him. He was full of fear, very alone. He had the thinnest little arms that I have ever seen. His whole body shook. His wrists were so thin that we could not put handcuffs on him,” Sgt. Provance said. “The interrogation specialists doused him with water and put him in a truck. Then they drove with him throughout the night, and at that time it was very, very cold. Then they smeared him with mud and showed him to his likewise imprisoned father. With him [the father] they had tried out other interrogation methods. But they had not succeeded in making him talk. The interrogation specialists told me that after the father had seen his son in that condition, it broke his heart. He wept and promised to tell them what they wanted to know.” Iraqi children who were lucky enough to survive violence do not only suffer from malnutrition but have also exhibited severe trauma-based disorders because of the daily violence they witness. Instead of playing in clean parks, Iraqi children play in raw sewage. Water is cut and many families are forced to draw polluted and tainted well water. Many children have been forced to leave school and work to help their unemployed parents make ends meet. "Children are the most affected by the tragic events," Dr. Khalil al-Kubaissi, a psychotherapist in Fallujah told IPS. "Their fragile personalities cannot face the loss of a parent or the family house along with all the horror that surrounds them. The result is catastrophic, and Iraqi children are in serious danger of lapsing into loneliness or violence." The plight of Iraq’s children grows worse as violence rages in the war-ravaged country. A study by the Association of Psychologists of Iraq, released in February, concluded that "children in Iraq are seriously suffering psychologically with all the insecurity, especially with the fear of kidnapping and explosions." "The only things they have on their minds are guns, bullets, death and a fear of the U.S. occupation," said Maruan Abdullah, spokesman for the Association of Psychologists of Iraq. SOURCE