She was not married therefore Islamically she can be Beaten with Karbash 90 times (not sure if number is correct) but they cant put a death sentence on her Ya Allah These People R Twisted Walaahi. :eek: :eek: :eek: ALlah Cafiyo

I would definately Go back to Somalia

About Time KG got himself a Ring!! Hoping TImberwolves would do win!! Finals Minn:Timberwolves and Detriot: Pistons

Does that describe all Asians? stop categorizing dude!!..Asians a continent filled w/ people that all eat nasty food according to u Not to Them

Gen. Gaani waxa uu ahaa nin axmaq ah Acuudi billahi minasheydani Rajeem the Guy is dead cut him some slack i would like to state ALLAH FORGIVES THOSE THAT FORGIVE ALLah U Naxarista ameen; muslim waaye and ALLAH HA NA SOO HANUUNIYO

yeah Red Sox Is the curse over? now that they won

Stereotyping eeh

President of Somali Student Association(hardest job ever) Member of Un-Ir Club:united nation and International Relation club Member of ASA: african student association I am also a part of Ethnic student Funding Committee

Right on ameenah! ur turn

Who is the dude LSK? Who AM I? I am man, A Writer, and AN Ex-Exile(from somalia)

Reminder: Let us not let Trabalism Shadow our thoughts!! We all know that C/Y Is a killer; he killed his own brother or was it his own brother in law the guy is a loose cannon; he kills people from his own clan let alone people of other clans; some might argue that he didn’t kill anyone with his own gun but his "MEN" killed people. They guy is a communist; he was trained by Stalin’s Men; he was turned into a killing machine; he has no conscious; and his plans is to use all those god given talents to bring peace to Somalia; he will kill those that disagree with him; he will kill all the “Moryaan†he will create fear; fear is the best way to control people mind. Question is he the best candidate? HELL NO Is C/Y what Somalia needs right now?May be!because we tried Cabdiqasin and he tried the civil-diplomatic way and it didn’t work. May be: May be that is why!! He is not too bad after all.Let try to have a warlord as a president. As a citizen from Jamahiriyata democratiga Somalia I support my president!!!

Chaotic Somalia Picks a President; 14th Effort to End Lawlessness By REUTERS Published: October 11, 2004 AIROBI, Kenya, Oct. 10 - An Ethiopian-backed warlord, Abdullahi Yusuf, was elected president of Somalia by lawmakers on Sunday in the 14th attempt in a decade to restore government to that lawless country. The National Assembly speaker, Sharif Hassan Sheik Adan, announced the choice to the lawmakers meeting as an electoral college here in neighboring Kenya, saying that Mr. Yusuf won 189 votes against 79 for his main opponent, Abdullahi Addou. Two ballots were spoiled. Mr. Yusuf will head a transitional federal government that will try to move Somalia, a nation of 10 million people that has not had a functioning government in more than a decade, toward elections under a new constitution in five years. Rival militias hold power in various parts of the country, which is seen by American officials as a haven for militants suspected of links to Al Qaeda. The country remains so dangerous that the interim Parliament held its vote for president across the border in Nairobi. "I praise the Somali people for their commitment to the process and for electing a new president in an orderly and transparent manner," said Winston Tubman, the special representative for Somalia from the United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan. "I hope that the Somali people will support the outcome because that will encourage the international community to give Somalis the backing they need." The vote on Sunday, the culmination of a two-year-old reconciliation process, is intended to produce an executive head of state who will reimpose order on the country. The election had gone into a third round after no outright winner emerged in the first and second ballots, with more than two dozen candidates competing. Mr. Yusuf had also come out ahead in the earlier ballots. Mr. Yusuf is an Ethiopian-backed military strongman who is expected to take a tough line against militia mayhem. He is also a self-declared ally of the United States effort to prevent terrorism. He has led Somalia's autonomous enclave of Puntland since 1998 and is a friend of neighboring Ethiopia, Somalia's traditional foe and the dominant power in the Horn of Africa. Critics say that Mr. Yusuf, 69, is intolerant of independent news organizations, dislikes militant Islamists and has turbulent relationships both with a neighboring region called Somaliland and with major faction leaders in the capital, Mogadishu. Supporters say he has the strength of character, military training and alliances in Addis Ababa and Washington to reimpose law and order on the country. A career soldier who was Somalia's military attaché to the former Soviet Union in the 1960's, he was jailed for six years for refusing to take part in the 1969 coup that put Mohammed Siad Barre in power. Speaking to the lawmakers on Sunday, he said, "Somalia is a failed state and we have nothing." He then called on the international community to help disarm the militias. Hundreds of thousands of Somalis have died from famine, disease and violence since 1991, when warlords ousted Mr. Siad Barre. Thirteen previous peace conferences have failed to stabilize the country, which is divided into clan-based fiefs. "Everything has been destroyed - they are starting from ground zero," said Kenya's ambassador to Somalia, Mohammed Affey. Before the vote all the candidates signed a pledge to respect the result and hand over any weapons held by them or their supporters to the new government. They also promised not to disrupt the voting process itself. Fistfights, scuffles and walkouts have marred the few sessions the Parliament has held since it was selected in August. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/international/africa/11somalia.html

Are joining the team aliyah? it would be great to see u play

What do you guys think of this article http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/12/international/middleeast/12mosques.htmlgot Got me angry; nice way to secularize egypt eeh. apparently muadim is not allowed anymore.talk about Taking away people rights one by one :mad: God Has 4,000 Loudspeakers; the State Holds Its Ears By NEIL MacFARQUHAR Published: October 12, 2004 AIRO - Given the cacophony that afflicts any Cairo street - the braying donkeys, the caterwauling vegetable vendors, the constant honking of car horns - it might seem a particularly daunting task to single out just one noise to prosecute as the most offensive. But the minister of religious endowments recently did that, more or less, making a somewhat unlikely decision in these times when many Muslim faithful believe that their religion is under assault. The call to prayer, the minister declared, is out of control: too loud, too grating, utterly lacking in beauty or uniform timing, and hence in dire need of reform. The solution, the evidently fearless minister decided - harking back to an answer Egyptian bureaucrats have seized upon since long before Islam - is to centralize it. The minister, Mahmoud Hamdi Zaqzouq, announced that one official call to prayer would be broadcast live from one central Cairo mosque five times a day, and that it would be carried simultaneously by the 4,000-plus mosques and prayer halls across the capital. From the ensuing national brouhaha - the outraged headlines, the scathing editorials, the heated debates among worshipers - one might gain the impression that Mr. Zaqzouq was leading an assault against Islam itself. "Minarets Weep," intoned one banner headline, while another suggested sarcastically that the minister was less than a good Muslim. "The Call to Prayer Upsets Minister," it read. Comedians and intellectuals had a field day. Ali Salem, one of Egypt's leading playwrights, envisioned a turbaned, high-tech SWAT team dispatched across Cairo whenever one mosque or another inevitably sabotaged the centralized prayer-call operation. Not everyone ridiculed the idea, though. Secular Cairenes endorsed it as a possible means toward greater government control over all of the tiny storefront mosques that have often proved a font of violent, extremist Islam. And Mr. Zaqzouq insisted that his proposal enjoyed wide grass-roots popularity. In the surging religious environment of the last decade, the multiplication of mosques and prayer halls is such that any random Cairo street might house half a dozen, each competing with the others in volume and staggering the timing of their call slightly in an effort to stand out. Particularly at dawn prayers, some mosques blast not just the roughly dozen sentences of the call itself, but all of the Koranic verses and actual prayers intoned by the local imam. When three different mosques do the same thing, what should be an announcement lasting at most two minutes can drag on for 45 minutes, keeping the entire neighborhood awake. "There are loudspeakers that shake the world," the minister protested. "Everyone hears them. Every day I receive bitter complaints from people about the loudspeakers, but when I ask them to register official complaints, they say they fear others will accuse them of being infidels." Opponents, meanwhile, express deep outrage at the very idea of someone tampering with the tradition of each mosque having its own muezzin, of different voices echoing across the city in a continuous round. "During the time of the Prophet there used to be more than one mosque in each town, in each quarter, and he didn't unify the prayer, so why do it now?" asked Sheik Mustafa Ali Suliman, who works as a muezzin in a small mosque amid the twisting streets of Cairo's medieval quarter. "There is even a saying by the Prophet Muhammad that implies that in God's eyes muezzins will garner special honor and respect on judgment day." Given the widespread sentiment that no decent Muslim could ever consider such a change, no small number of Cairo residents seized on the obvious alternative: it is a C.I.A. plot, they muttered, right up there with other American attacks on Islam, like demanding changes in the Muslim world's curriculums. The conspiracy theorists further prophesied that the centralized system was just a test case for the real goal: to disseminate a single Friday Prayer sermon, written, naturally, in Langley, Va. The outcry reached such a level that the minister felt obliged to hold an hourlong news conference to quell the sense, as he put it, that doomsday was at hand.

BUUBto and Garab Tuujiye: I understand where both of y'all are coming from. But I believe one has to look into something from others point of view. These people are not Muslim and wearing mini skirts and walking around semi-naked is not sinning to them: HE said they are teaching feminism in their school; i took a women’s studies class and what they thought me was the things I stated at first not getting naked and doing all the gross/insane stuff some women do under the name of feminism I would not blame feminism for women getting jobs and leaving their children behind no mother feminist or not would want to do that it’s the economy: families now a days can’t live above poverty level without the income of 2. There are good and bad that come with everything; I attended the vagina monologues twice and there are things that I would never agree with but there things I would agree with especially on cases like rape, burning of women in India and Pakistan etc. I would not call myself a Feminist because I would categorize myself with those that do all the things Buubto mention. What’s been going on in this thread is peoples been looking at the negative side rather than the positive; one should compare and contrast and have a clear view on it instead assuming the worst.

Are they trying to Secularize Islam...Yeah!! Did bin laden do it: if he didn’t why not come out and say he didn’t do it? Islam doesn’t encourage people to take vaults (or dance around) for something they didn’t do? Does it? :confused: since when is killing of innocent people justified in Islam, since when is slaughtering of civilians justified in Islam. I am not the most religious person on the world but doesn’t it bother y'all when someone used our religions name to falsely kill and slaughter victims.

Congrats to Him ; i gues am not too happy But happy

well...I I I I I I ummmmmmmm I gues I am happy for Him :rolleyes: Wish him all the best and i hope he leads somalia to prosper and achieve all the things we couldnt achieve in the past decade and half!! ATLEAST WE ARE RECOGNIZED AND HE SURE IS SUPPORTED BY UNITED STATES/ETHIOPIA...

How are u looking at it Elysian? I didn’t say we cant breed with other races; all I said was Somali is a race: and u certainly didn’t clarify your view on: Somalis marrying other Somalis you used it as an example only and said we Somalis are racist because we don’t marry other races (which I disagree with b/c I know handful Somalis that are married to other races) to breed is to give birth to an offspring and when one marries someone of another race I would assume they would produce children don’t u think.:. I will also assume that when a Somali individual marries another Somali individual they would be interbreeding. The question you asked was not about Somalis marrying other Somalis because of race; it was if Somali is a race and I merely responded to that.That should clearify the misunderstanding

Elysian: I think i know where u are coming and i do agree with you on some extent. One has to have a clear defination of race to justify your observation about somalian not marryinig someone of their own race or is somali is a race itself?.race can be defined in different ways: Race can be defined as: A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race. A genealogical line; a lineage. Humans considered as a group Biological defination: An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies. that defination of race definately answers your question about somali being a race. To be racist is to discrimate against a person because of their race: its like me saying i wont marry and ethopian because all ethopians starve; basically its having an ethnocentric view on a race.Racist believe that race acounts for difference in human character. sweetie i do agree with that culture is learned and acquired but one cant be somali of somali race because he was born and raised in somalia; he acquired the somali culture because he shared it with the people that lived around.

TO those that have seen the vice-presidential debate who do you believe won? I thought Edward was going to win but he disappointed me as soon as he opened his mouth about ISRAEL: as a muslim I am stuck to decide between Bush/Dick (who attacked iraq) or Kerry/Edwards Who will definately support Israel kill more palestinian :mad:

Buubto thanks sweetie but you might want to look into feminism; its not about having men and women having different organs and it doesn talk about Gods creativity at all. its more along the lines of getting Equal paying job; anti voilence etc. As you know Islam was/Is the first religion to give about freedom of women ; these people didnt reach our stage yet they are just trying to get the freedom muslim women are supposed to enjoy.

Intersting to see the display sexism and chauvinism in somali men; Who am i Kidding They display it all the time :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He Cried This really gets me Mad: how dare they :mad: Inshaallah everything will work out for the best.

Sissade: WALAALO I worked with people that had mental disorders few years back; some of them had Bipolar disorder and they had few of the symptoms brother dangerous has mentioned; quit frankly I am not into medicine and I was not trying to diagnose anything I wanted him to look into bipolar disorder and see if he has one of the symptoms. Any who! Dangerous please do something; Quran like someone has mention is the biggest curer of all: Try to take him to a doctor IF he likes it or not; I don’t think listing to him; will make difference right now. ALLAH CAFIYO ONCE AGAIN: AMEEN from what i see u are in wisconsin dont u think its about time u paid a visit to ur cousin