Opportunist If you have seen one, you have not seen them all, Religion is different than Deen, may be, that is why we have more agnostics who were broght up in all faiths except in Islam, because, Islam is a Deen, a complete code and a road map that connects the past to the present of a person, guides them thru life and prepares them for an eternal life. It is simple, humble, and easy to understand and follow. Religion in Arabic is traslated as NIHLA ( NIXLA), which is a collection of rituals. While the word Deen, in Arabic has the following meanings: 1. A Code of living 2. Submission to a Higher authority 3. Accountability So, before you level a blanket judgment on all faiths, that you ook a little closer to Islam, you may be in for a surprise as you will discover why all those Muslims are so passionate on their faith more than any other faithfuls to theirs, also why is the quraan the most read book on earth on adily basis, why Muslims pray more prayers, build more places of worship, preach their faith to others, simply, a faith that has something for you to examine. Stary with thr Quran. Nur

Great and Timely topic Bashi bro. I just skimmed thru, I congratulate you for a well selected article that we can all share our thoughts on it. Nur

Nameless Sheikha Go for Suurah Huud and Yusuf if you can, the Sheikh takes you back in history to see what other nations before us have said, and what happened to them, when you come back to our present day, the Agnostics are saying the same, they lack creativity even in their lies. Nur

The Agnostic and the Boy Agnostic visits a Mosque Agnostic: I have 3 questions for you Muslims Muslims: Go up the pulpit and ask Agnostic: 1. You believe Allah? then where is he facing? 2. You say he created everything, who created Allah? 3. What is Allah doing at this exact moment? Muslims, confused, unprepared to answer these questions; A 12 year old boy in the crowd volunteers to asnwer the questions the elders could not. He was later permitted to challenge the Agnostic. Boy: First question; Allah is Light of the heavens and earth, light faces all directions, wherever you face, there is the face of Allah. Boy: Second Question: I must ask you a question to answer your question. What comes before the number 9? Agnostic, smiling: , of course the nymber 8 son. Boy, good, what comes before 8? The countdown continues......to the number 1 ( One) Boy: What comes before number 1 ( One)? Agnostic : Zero comes after the number 1 (one) Boy: Allah is 1, there is nothing before Allah Boy: In order to answer Third question, you have to come down the pulpit ( Manbar) and allow me to go up there to answer the final question. Agnostic: OK, he comes down Boy goes up the pulpit, Boy: So you want to know what Allah is doing at this exact moment? Agnostic: yes Boy: Allah just brought you down in shame, and rasied me above you in glory. The boy, will becme one of the four scholars of Islam, if my memory does not fail me, he was Imam Abu Hanifa. Nur

JB If you dont know where you are going, every road will take you there. Nur

Vibe The Messenger of Allah SAWS said that guilt ( ithm) is what bothers you when alone, and you hate people notice. Nur

Cara As for my proofs, since I am the one who made the claim that there is Allah, here are they, let us discuss their validity, in a result oriented way: Early when Propphet Muhammad appeared and was in conflict with the Quresih tribe and Idolators ( who worship Material gods), the Idolators claimed that they will win the battle bewteen them and Muslims who were people who follow a revelationm from heaven. In that same period, the Romans were defeated by the Persians in a famous battle, the Romans being people of the Book like Muslims, and the Persians being idol worshippers like the Quresih tribe that was opposiing Islam. So, Quresih rejoiced at the victory of Idolators over the people of the Book ( Romans), and the Muslims were very Sad and unhappy about there brethern in the book to be defeated by Idolators. The Surah Romans in the Quraan was revealed for that occasion, but it goes further, it touches on skeptics and agnostics, I thought this Surah is the best I can start with in our dialague: Holy Quraan; ( Speaker, Allah ) Surah: The Romans 1. Alif. Lam. Mim. ( Devine Code Message) 2. The Romans have been defeated 3. In the nearer land, and they, after their defeat will be victorious 4. Within ten years - Allah's is the command in the former case and in the latter - and in that day believers will rejoice 5. In Allah's help to victory. He helpeth to victory whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Merciful. 6. It is a promise of Allah. Allah faileth not His promise, but most of mankind know not. 7. They know only some appearance of the life of the world, and are heedless of the Hereafter. 8. Have they not pondered upon themselves ? Allah created not the heavens and the earth, and that which is between them, save with truth and for a destined end. But truly many of mankind are disbelievers in the meeting with their Lord. 9. Have they not travelled in the land and seen the nature of the consequence for those who were before them ? They were stronger than these in power, and they dug the earth and built upon it more than these have built. Messengers of their own came unto them with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty). Surely Allah wronged them not, but they did wrong themselves. 10. Then evil was the consequence to those who dealt in evil, because they denied the revelations of Allah and made a mock of them. 11. Allah produceth creation, then He reproduceth it, then unto Him ye will be returned. 12. And in the day when the Hour riseth the unrighteous will despair. 13. There will be none to intercede for them of those whom they made equal with Allah. And they will reject their partners (whom they ascribed unto Him). 14. In the day when the Hour cometh, in that day they will be sundered. 15. As for those who believed and did good works, they will be made happy in a Garden. 16. But as for those who disbelieved and denied Our revelations, and denied the meeting of the Hereafter, such will be brought to doom. 17. So glory be to Allah when ye enter the night and when ye enter the morning 18. Unto Him be praise in the heavens and the earth! - and at the sun's decline and in the noonday. 19. He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and He bringeth forth the dead from the living, and He reviveth the earth after her death. And even so will ye be brought forth. 20. And of His signs is this: He created you of dust, and behold you human beings, ranging widely! 21. And of His signs is this: He created for you spouses from yourselves that ye might find rest in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Lo! herein indeed are portents for folk who reflect. 22. And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Lo! herein indeed are portents for men of knowledge. 23. And of His signs is your slumber by night and by day, and your seeking of His bounty. Lo! herein indeed are portents for folk who heed. 24. And of His signs is this: He showeth you the lightning for a fear and for a hope, and sendeth down water from the sky, and thereby quickeneth the earth after her death. Lo! herein indeed are portents for folk who understand. 25. And of His signs is this: The heavens and the earth stand fast by His command, and afterward, when He calleth you, lo! from the earth ye will emerge. 26. Unto Him belongeth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth. All are obedient unto Him. 27. He it is Who produceth creation, then reproduceth it, and it is easier for Him. His is the Sublime Similitude in the heavens and the earth. He is the Mighty, the Wise. 28. He coineth for you a similitude of yourselves. Have ye, from among those whom your right hands possess, partners in the wealth We have bestowed upon you, equal with you in respect thereof, so that ye fear them as ye fear each other (that ye ascribe unto Us partners out of that which We created) ? Thus We display the revelations for people who have sense. 29. Nay, but those who do wrong follow their own lusts without knowledge. Who is able to guide him whom Allah hath sent astray ? For such there are no helpers. 30. So set thy purpose (O Muhammad) for religion as a man by nature upright - the nature (framed) of Allah, in which He hath created man. There is no altering (the laws of) Allah's creation. That is the right religion, but most men know not 31. Turning unto Him (only); and be careful of your duty unto Him and establish worship, and be not of those who ascribe partners (unto Him); 32. Of those who split up their religion and became schismatics, each sect exulting in its tenets. 33. And when harm toucheth men they cry unto their Lord, turning to Him in repentance; then, when they have tasted of His mercy, behold! some of them attribute partners to their Lord 34. So as to disbelieve in that which We have given them. (Unto such it is said): Enjoy yourselves awhile, but ye will come to know. 35. Or have We revealed unto them any warrant which speaketh of that which they associate with Him ? 36. And when We cause mankind to taste of mercy they rejoice therein; but if an evil thing befall them as the consequence of their own deeds, lo! they are in despair! 37. See they not that Allah enlargeth the provision for whom He will, and straiteneth (it for whom He will). Lo! herein indeed are portents for folk who believe. 38. So give to the kinsman his due, and to the needy, and to the wayfarer. That is best for those who seek Allah's Countenance. And such are they who are successful. 39. That which ye give in usury in order that it may increase on (other) people's property hath no increase with Allah; but that which ye give in charity, seeking Allah's Countenance, hath increase manifold. � 40. Allah is He Who created you and then sustained you, then causeth you to die, then giveth life to you again. Is there any of your (so-called) partners (of Allah) that doeth aught of that ? Praised and Exalted be He above what they associate (with Him)! 41. Corruption doth appear on land and sea because of (the evil) which men's hands have done, that He may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return. 42. Say (O Muhammad, to the disbelievers): Travel in the land, and see the nature of the consequence for those who were before you! Most of them were idolaters. 43. So set thy purpose resolutely for the right religion, before the inevitable day cometh from Allah. On that day mankind will be sundered- 44. Whoso disbelieveth must (then) bear the consequences of his disbelief, while those who do right make provision for themselves 45. That He may reward out of His bounty those who believe and do good works. Lo! He loveth not the disbelievers (in His guidance). 46. And of His signs is this: He sendeth herald winds to make you taste His mercy, and that the ships may sail at His command, and that ye may seek his favour, and that haply ye may be thankful. 47. Verily We sent before thee (Muhammad) messengers to their own folk. Then we took vengeance upon those who were guilty (in regard to them). To help believers is ever incumbent upon Us. 48. Allah is He Who sendeth the winds so that they raise clouds, and spreadeth them along the sky as pleaseth Him, and causeth them to break and thou seest the rain downpouring from within them. And when He maketh it to fall on whom He will of His bondmen, lo! they rejoice; 49. Though before that, even before it was sent down upon them, they were in despair. 50. Look, therefore, at the prints of Allah's mercy (in creation): how He quickeneth the earth after her death. Lo! He verily is the Quickener of the Dead, and He is Able to do all things. 51. And if We sent a wind and they beheld it yellow, they verily would still continue in their disbelief. 52. For verily thou (Muhammad) canst not make the dead to hear, nor canst thou make the deaf to hear the call when they have turned to flee. 53. Nor canst thou guide the blind out of their error. Thou canst make none to hear save those who believe in Our revelations so that they surrender (unto Him). 54. Allah is He Who shaped you out of weakness, then appointed after weakness strength, then, after strength, appointed weakness and grey hair. He createth what He will. He is the Knower, the Mighty. 55. And on the day when the Hour riseth the guilty will vow that they did tarry but an hour - thus were they ever deceived. 56. But those to whom knowledge and faith are given will say: The truth is, ye have tarried, by Allah's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but ye used not to know. 57. In that day their excuses will not profit those who did injustice, nor will they be allowed to make amends. 58. Verily We have coined for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes; and indeed if thou camest unto them with a miracle, those who disbelieve would verily exclaim: Ye are but tricksters! 59. Thus doth Allah seal the hearts of those who know not. 60. So have patience (O Muhammad)! Allah's promise is the very truth, and let not those who have no certainty make thee impatient. Cara Muhammad died a poor man, struggling 23 years to the above mesage to mankind, helping the poor and oppressed, freeing slaves, empowering and educating women, as an example, His wife Aisha was the source of a great deal of traditions ( Hadeeth) that formed the second most important source of wisdom aftre the quraan. Think, why would he invent such a lie? what would be the driver? and how would ita have benefited him. Peace Nur

Castro bro. It would be nice if you can talk straight to me, knowing that i read your message, yes saaxib, I do magnify issues at times for the unsuspecting readers to see, to expose fundemental ideas that are hiding in discussions about Islam as harmless, we get from time to time people who have a mission to indirectly preach other faiths and faithlessness on these pages without directly saying so, my job here is to bring them to the forefront and have a head on dialogue, and Cara who I have followed her posts for a while is an example, as you see, she has not denied being an Athiest, equating Faith we having no reason in her last post. But I do thnak you for your candid comment warning me that my magnification may backfire, I assure you that I have taken a well calculated risk, thanks saaxib. Cara Thanks, so you find faithlessness as an insult? how do you define faith ? dont you find it to be contradictory that you make faith opposite to reason on one hand, and then claim to have faith at the same time? your claim that people with faith have no reason, and those with reason have no faith is quite interesting, unfortunately, but i find the contrary to be true. My question to you, when you say that you are an skeptic about everything that you can not sense with your bare senses, a materialist view, does that mean that you are just saying that you are not denying the exisitence of Allah, just that it is possible, but that you have no enough information you can rely on that is convincing? Nur

Nomads Cara, a respected visitor of this site has caught me off guard with her well structured argument about Athiesm, I reasoned that she deserves a similar intellectual match, as Muslims, Allah instructed us that we should have the best of dialogue with those who do not share our faith or have no faith at all like Cara, so today we are starting this thread in the best of intentions to exchange views. The first Topic of discussion is the existence of a Creator of the Universe. 1. We Muslims belive that Allah is the creator of the Universe and its inhabitants for a worthwhile purpose. 2. Athiests believe that there is no creator, that life is an accident, and all of what we see happened without a deffinite plan or purpose, a freak accident. I invite Cara to tell us more about her faithless principles, the exhaustive proofs that rule out the existence of a creator and a judgement day and a purpose in life, and I will speak from the point of our Faith using the Holy Quraan as my proof, the final miracle, Allah SWT said : Fa dhakkir bil Quraani man yakhaafu waciid Remind them With the Holy Quraan, those who are afraid of my promise ( of punishment). Fa bi ayyi Xadiithin Bacdallaaahi wa aayaatihi Yuminuun. What other argument, other than Allah (Quraan) and his signs ( The open book of the Universe) will they believe then? Why did I choose this strategy? because of this verse: " And we reveal (portions) of the Quraan which are a cure and mercy for the believers, (while) it does not add to but more of a loss for those who are unjust" Suurah Israa, 82 Nur ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seddexi, seddex kale ka ma aar gudato: 1. Runlow, kama aar guto beenlow 2. Qof Allah ka baqana , kama aar guto qofaan Allah ka baqin 3. Qof caqli lehna, Kama aar guto, qof caqli yar.

Cara sis I used to have a piece of art work that if you look, all you see are dots, but if you try with a lazy eye, the dots line up and you will see three dimensional real looking world of drawings, mountains and valleys, those net to you cant see what you see, simply they have a blocked perception and you can swear that you see, and they will swear there is nothing there to be seen, each one is right from their perspective, and I respect your inability to see what i see, from my point of view, I would sense a void, from yours, you feel filled to the rim, there must be some wisdom in there, and from my perspective again, Allah tells me that the ability to see is granted by Allah, and earned due to a persons sincere search of what is beyound this life, to find answers to things you said that fill your life like dreams and eath. As for the aim once we are in paradise, and others are in hell, I am sure that you know once a soccer player scores the goal its the end and time to enjoy (again from my perspective) . Paradise is not a boring place we are told and we believe, just like you believe that your current life is fuil and satisfying, but from our perspective, this life is a qualifying life fro anotherf, not the resting place, from your perspective, this life is it, and nothing is beyound death, I have no single doubt of what I believe, but for the sake of argument, we can not both be right, so if you are right, I havent missed much, because i enjoyed life in a different way, on the other hand, if you are wrong, then you are at risk. One can prove that something exists, but its impossible to prove that something does not, so for you to come to a conclusion of stark athiesm, that there is no Creator, and no life after death, it means tat you either have an encompassing knolwledge that assures you of non exisitence of a God, or you are reclessly miscalculating a fact that if it catches up with you, the price would be a permanent torment. Now, I will launch a new page of dialogue so we can discuss Athiesm versus Islam, in depth, let us do it with class. Respectfully Nur N.B. Nameless Sheikha We should not ban visitors who are not of our faith, after all, we need to reach out to build bridges to show them our faith.

Nameless Sheikha Here is my favorite Quraan Reader, he is not well known, but his recitation if you can understand the Arabic Language, can alter your state, from a regular person to a deeply affected believer, be careful, Sheikh Mohammad Saalih Alim Shaaah is the best of the best in my opinion, too bad not many people have heard of him, he is an imam of a mosque in makkah. http://audio.islamweb.net/audio/index.php?page=souraview&qid=753&rid=1 Nur

JB Why not just admit that you dont have a purpose? nice quotes from famous athiests wont save your soul, you are laughing at a serious issue indeed. Here is the eNuri Corollary of that law that finds a better example in you: The amount of IGNORANCE a person has about a particular subject is directly proportional to his or her tendency to be oblivious to the meaning of any statement Share Knowledge, NOT ignorance! Nur

Raxmah sis One of the lessons that I learned in that experience was: SHOW THE WAY to others who are not capapble of helping themself. I pray these Somaliaonline Islam pages Show the way to those who are fighting those who are helping them see their purpose, amin. Nur

JB I am sure that you agree that evrything you use has a purpose, and if they break or are not functioning, they are deemed useless. To answer your question in a detailed way, I need to know of how you see the purpose of your exisitence? CARA Finally we found a commoin ground on which we agree, thats great! You write: In that we can agree, Nur. What may be difficult for you to understand is that living well and doing good, without the expectation of a reward or to avoid punishment, is the greatest expression of human purpose. But to each his own I guess. Its not difficult, at one poiunt in my life, though very short, I was in your shoes, and I know how it feels from the inside out, it is a void, nothing can fill, except the purpose you are avoiding and you knwo it. Living well is a mean, not a goal, living is not an activity of your choice, your were given, but due to your the cover of your chosen aimlessness on your perception you fail to see the purpose behind life, some agnostics do confirm that there is a purpose behind life, but they admit theor ignorance of what it is,. As for reward and punishment, let me help you here: Since you are materialist, let us begin an analogy of a particle, you see Cara, the way a particle behaves is a miniature way of how a plant behaves, all creations have similar attributes regardless of their sizes. Now, of we carry this analogy to our present life, our life would bearable without a stick and a carrot, wouldnt you agree? imagine some Nomads crossing red light signals since they are Traffic Ligfht AGNOSTIC!? they dont believe, because tey came from Somalia countryside where there was no such a thing . Working hard making no money is ni fun, I am sure that you also agree to that? well, now let visit economics, what does VALUE mean to you? would anybody seek something of no value to them? of course not, so, let us agree that life has a VALUE, and like you said, to each is his own, but in economics the value of things is determined by its quality, and duration, I am sure again that you agree that this life is short and its quality is at best mixed with pain, its never clear skies and smooth sailing. Knowing that Cara ( which in Italian means DEAR or VALUABLE, again), dont you agree that your eyes are fixed too close to the means, not the goals? i We Muskims found the purpose in the pages of teh Holy Quraan, we know where we came from, where we are and where we are going, and how to get there, as for you, you only know where you are and have no interest to know about the rest, you are taking a train oblivious to its destination as long as the food is goo and the music is soothing. Nur

HODMAN Membership is for a special group selected by the grace of Allah, responding to His call, you are deffinetly called and you must respond to this heavenly call, and contribute, reach out to your friends and family to become Quraan readers, our goal is to make Quraan reading a basid daily household activity in all of our Somali homes who log on Somaliaonline. Now, I am curious, what is the significance of Hodman? is there an extra letter somewhere in it? Nur

Hodman MaashAllah Tabaarakallah, that was a breathtaking tour of the verses, I was hoping that you dont stop, the more you express, the more insights I was getting from your description, but since you have kindly invited me to throw in my few nickles, here is a single pepple on the coast of this great ocean of Surah al Mulk I toss deep into the non ending waves of wisdom. You write: [4] Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. Now when the foolish eye looks upto the sky and searches for faults Allah tells us the state it finds itself in. The eye and the soul that owns it are worn out in disappointment and shame and frustration. The translation of Vision in this verse as Al Basar is short of its vast meaning in the Arabic language, for example, to SEE, is translated as (Nadhara), so the verb( Undhur) means LOOK AT something, as you can see from the Enlglish words, of LOOK and SEE, have different meanings, you can LOOK without actually SEEing, now , if you consider the word VISION, we have the process that combines ( LOOK + SEE) which means that light from a source reaches your eye, detected by a nerve, the signal is sent to the brain for interpretation, and in a millionth of a second the code is translated and object identified against a library of stored images. Now, the verse says that VISION bounces back toward you ( Yanqalibu Ileika al Basaru) which means, that your VISION has travelled in space for search of something to SEE, but due to the perfection of creation, your VISION will bounce back weak and without finding a flaw in the creation, thus failing in the challenge to find a flaw, rather, your VISION will have the flaw of not finding a flaw in the creation of Allah. Imagine that your VISION to be like a puppy in a rainy day, that you ordered to get something for you, and after trying, it comes back subdued, its tail between its legs, unable to get the object. That is the meaning of ( Xasiir). Therefore, we need another set of VISION, the BASEERAH. Home of iimaan. Here is an axcerpt of an article I wrote in eNuri Opticians about Vision on Baseerah and Basar. Our patients depending on the severity of their eye sight ailment, vary from blind, to mildly unfocused, Allah SWT says about the serious patients: " Wa taraahum yandhuruna ileyka wa hum laa yubsiruun" Meaning, "you see them looking at you yet unable to see you" Allah also says about them : "Lahum Acyunun Laa Yubsiruuna Bihaa" "They have eyes that do not help them see" As for the mildly unfocused patients, Allah SWT says: " Idaa massahum taa ifun minal sheitaani tadhakaruu, fa idaa hum mubsiruun" Meaning: when Satan corrupts their perception, they wake up and remember ( Allah) and they begin seeing ( Again) Because the vision deseases that we are about to cure do not attack the eyes, rather it blinds the perception of reality known in Quraan as ( BASEERAH) Allah SWT says: " Fa innahaa laa tacmil absaar wa laa kin tacmil quluub allatii fis Suduur" " It ( Evil) does not blind the eye-vision, rather, it blinds the hearts ( Gut feeling) ( Baseerah) that are in the chests" Nur

Nameless Sheikha I like her name, Didi Kong, what a great sounding name, you get the feeling that she is a no nonsense lady, straight to the point, not pretentious, honest and a go getter, the name also gives impression that she can kick rear end of blasphemists at will. Nur

Nomads who signed up for the club Share progress on Quraan, lets pull together for Quraan, lets read Quraan daily, and share thoughts with members Nur WOL where are you?

Farah Blue An MBA in finance and a Million Dolllars doing biz in Somalia? Wonderful idea, here is what eNuri Business Developers Suggest for that kind of Talent and Money. The following is a free Business Development Consultancy for all Somalis reading this page, please be free to share with al businessmen, with condition of mentioning that they have read it at Somaliaonline, and eNuri Business Advisory and Development. eNuri's business is the well being of Somalis, no rayalties are solicited. A Charitable/profitable Business Ideas 1. Establish a Charty Organization based in Washington DC 2. Vision: Educating and Skills training of the poor, Rural Development, A. Education: Opening of Five K-12 Schools in Five main regions: Jubbaland, Central, Northeast, West and Somaliland. A1: Skills Training: Dairy and Cheese making principles Fruit Preserve making ( Tomatoe paste etec) Embroidery for housewives Small machine maintenance ( Yamaha boat ingines for fishery) Windmill assembly and maintenance Farm pest control methods Fruit and vegetable prudiction planning and implementation. farm management skills Animal Husbandry and vet science. HACCP certification ( Hazard Analyses and Critical Control Program) For fisheries cold meat exports reqquirements A2.Research Labs: Camel Milk Research Laboratory ( Largest number in the world, appx. 9 million camels) Camel milk is being investigated for its antibodies which is believed that it can kill the HIV virus. The only milk with Vitamin C, and loweset fat, not mentioning its energy boosting qualities. Herbal Science Research Laborary: Somalia has some of the most diversified natural Flora and herbal remedies plants and vegetations B. Rural Development: Fisheries: Boat building and leasing business, fishermen as partners ( 1/3 of catch for fihserman, 2/3 for investor). Freezers on shores for colllection and export. Water Resources: Contact eNuri Well digging specialists, to show you how you can did a water well up to 75 Meters deep with a system that costs under 10K dollars, in an hour operated by a single person. Dairy Manufacturing: Empower the villagers to manufacture cash goods like Goat cheese to be exported to fat people in developed world. Buy 1000 milking goats @ 30 dollars each, deliverry trucks, a cheese making apparatus complete with a freezer powered by windmill power, train villagers to run business, and share profits with them. ( Goats will have five kids every two years, in four years you may haveat least five thousand milking goats. Other Community Supported businesses: Agricultural Produce ( Corn, wheat, vegetables and fruits) Honey Export business ( great income, low investment, free workers ( busy like a bee) Fruit juice, dried fruits, export business Low Cost housing building machines for rural housing Stone cutting and export business Fishery export. That was my quick thoughts , details available upon request Nur 2006 eNuri Charitable Business Development Better Than Cofe Anan, UN Thief Executive's Programs

Simple Nomad Welcome, Suurah Luqman is indeed a wonderfulful surah of wisdom, Allah explains what wisdon is, He summs it up as TO BE GRATEFUL TO ALLAH ALONE. thus seekink Allah with all we have been given by Him, and only receiving from Him instructions of how to libe through the revelation and His prophet SAWS. You write: "But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge", thus revealing to us the punishment of those who chose to follow a different to that of ALLAH swt.Therefore we understand the reward contained in "the book of wisdom" and the punishment for turning away from it When you think about it deeply, and observe the amount of media materials that have been produced to mislead man away from His maker, it is astonishing. So much money is spent in the entertainment biz, whose only aim is to make money here and now at the expense of mankinds loss of purpose. Red Sea, JZK for your input, your observation highlights the extent our hearts have hardened that even mountains melt away in awe of their maker, whilst we are so aoof, detached from reality. Hodman JZK , This page needs you much, your thoughts are adding a timely and needed value. Nur

Blessed Soul Wrote: I think Somalia is a perfect model for the establishment of a khilafa state, the people are 99% Muslim and would welcome a righteous leadership So, Blessed, Who would be our Khalifa? ( Caliph) we have the best leaders representing the 99% Muslim population, among us who are our Warlords, I am sure killing few souls here and there is not that bad, Which warlord for the Title of Amirul Muminiin? Nur

Cara You write You can probably get a buzz from eating a few loaves of bread. Just the advice some challenged Nomads need! By the way, the principle I wrote is an Islamid Fiqh ( Jurisprudence) clause, supported by Sunnah, its not my idea. Peace Nur

Is Sheikh Osama a Loyal Republican, Labor voter? Wonder why he always speaks to setttle election issues by playing the message " na nanaa nanaa, I am the bad guy, I am still around on Wazeerstan mountais sipping tea eluding American GI Joe? Bush cant catch me, a he is busy in Iraq, and i am going to cause lotta trouble (in Sudan, Somalia...... fill for all places of interest too)if I am not caught, so this time around elect Democrats, cuz Bush failed to catch me " so for a while, The purported sheikh Mesages benefited Republicans in USA and labor in UK, now, time for Democrats to benefit from the Sheikhs lil help, after all, they waited 5 years for it. Sheikh Osama and Elvis, I dont know when we will see you two again! If Religion is opium of the people, terrorism card is the ultimate invention hard core Heroin. Nur

Brother Kheir May I suggest with your permission that we chose one of each of the following categories; 1. Classical Scholars 2. Quran Reciters 3. Contemporary Scholars Nur

Asxabul Kahf A hot issue ineed, I was planning to write a humor filled piece on this topic but I lost steam midway. Nur