Sundus sis Amin Nur

Opinionated You write: Originally posted by Opinionated: Y'all have your convictions and I have mine. Ameenah, I didn't say women getting raped was a buncha crock sis. What I was meaning was that it is a buncha crock that men do the raping and we arent doing much to deter men from this behaviour..but we do with women. Just another way of thinking. I just think its sad that a muslim woman can't go to hajj without a mahram! Answer: Answer: That is true, everyone has there convictions, and that is why we are exchanging opinions so at the end good opinions surface and we can all benefit from the discussion. Now, Opinionated may I ask a Question 1. I understand that you are a Muslim, Muslim means someone who surrenders to a superior force, Allah SWT, who has further agreed to follow the guidance of Allah SWT, and the sunnah of his prophet SAWS. Do you agree with that definition of islam? If yes, then my second question is: 2. Do you know the idea of Mahram (legal escort) is from the Prophet SAWS or do you believe it is Hawaiian punch? 3. If you believe that it is from the prophet, don't you see a contradiction in the faith you profess to belong to and your words? 4. If you do not beleive it is from the prophet Muhammad SAWS, then where is your proof in Islam of your idea that Mahram is not needed and a woman should be free to go about her life without a legal male escort? Kindly waiting for your answers. Walaalkaa Nur

Shukri sis Actually birthdays should be time for mourning, and sorrow to see a year of your life time passing without taking a full advantage of hasanaat that would have made you a better Muslimah. Every year that ellapses, is gone for ever, years are not renewable resources, you either use them or loose them, at each birt date, you are closer to death and away from good times, so in that sense, birth dates may be time for solitary contemplation of the purpose of life, and your contribution to that purpose. Being lonely and crying for waht you may have missed is better than having a party and laughing on that day. Nur -------------------------------------------------- Put Allah First, so he can put you Firdows in aakhira

Nurtel Network News Presents: State of the Somali Union Report Prepared By: Somali Anarchist News Agency Doofarrey, Kenya Now that Iraq is being governed by the USA, to be inducted to the modern developed world, and the fact that the US has appointed retired general Gartner as the Imperial Administrator, the Somali Anarchist News Agency is conducting a survey here in Doofaarrey to see if Somalis are ready for a similar American Imperialist care taker government. The last care taker government, the Italians, built roads, schools, cinemas, civil service in the south, Somalis paid for these services with the delicious Somalita bananas. Since the literacy rate at that time was only about 2 percent, anyone who ran for an office was assured to be elected, as a famous politician told his clan, exhorting them to participate in the political process and to become sophisticated. "You must be modernized, smoke cigarettes, wear western trousers, drink red drinks (alcohol), walk the streets like civilized people". Another politician who lost a government post as a Minister, was immediately compensated with the job of the Head of Mogadishu Municipality. In his inauguration, a poet sang for him, " Mukhtaaroow, Minister waa ka weynaatay, ee minishiibiyaad tahay" meaning, " O mukhtaar, you are too good to be a cabinet Minister, you are the head of municipality" Now, after some half a century since the last Imperialist Italian care taker government left Somali soil, Somalis have evacuated the country side, overpopulating cities and towns looking for handouts, dressing trousers and smoking cigarettes to be civilized as their leaders taught them, neglecting their farms, and their rich nomadic lifestyle, burning their forestry to export charcoal to Arabia, selling out their marine resources to Japanese and European trawlers vacuuming up the marine- life- rich Somali coasts, destroying the remaining marine treasures and the crustacean habitat by selling the giant Somali Japanicus lobsters for peanuts in the Dubai auction market, and in the process, these samrt traders are undercutting each other's prices along tribal affiliations and as a result enriching the Indian traders who play Somali Exporters one on the other. These Somali traders are over shipping their livestock to the middle east for peanuts. The picture is not quite complete without the Nuclear waste hosting service our warlords offered Italian and European governments to use Somali coasts for a dumping ground of Medical and Nuclear waste, in a wasted land inhabited by a wasted people. Meanwhile, women and kids are dying of malnutrition, young boys and girls are missing education. And since there is no waste management system in place, people are digging holes in front of their houses to bury their waste, passing the problem for later generations to worry about and as a result, toxicity is seeping down to the water table to circulate the poison and diseases to many other regions and generations to come. Automatic weapons are being traded in the open markets, in the absence of a law enforcement authority, disputes are being settled the old fashioned Western trigger happy way, money is being funneled from overseas refugee clan members to feed the phony peace initiative at Doofaarrey, ( Peace in Somalia is defined as a period of cheating between two periods of fighting, how can you ever trust reer Qansax?) Amidst that gloomy scenario, Somalis are tuning to the BBC world Service News Service for spiritual guidance, they learn that Iraq is liberated and is being governed by the Americans who will treat Iraqis like Alaskans, sending a check of $1,546, to every Iraqi Citizen as her share of the Iraqi Oil revenues. Can you believe that these are the same Americans, Somalis fought so ferociously in 1993 when they came to liberate the country from the warlords grip. The Americans owe their success in Iraq to their experience in Somalia a decade ago, those damn reporters footage of a dead American Ranger being dragged naked on the ground by kids brought the most powerful nation on earth to its knees. This incident triggered a moral dilemma that forced the USA to pull its troops in haste to appease angry citizens, but only to sharpen its claws for yet another national interest adventure ( detail of the lesson will be posted in another thread inshAllah) In light of the above analyses, and monumental problems ahead, a question that forces itself is: "can Somalis afford to loose out on both worlds? they have ruined this life as they have known it, and apparently, have no better chance than Americans in the next, as they are at present intoxicated with evil clan politics, hate culture, and decadent lifestyle. At least Americans know one life to live, and for its sake, they are vigorously pursuing it to adjust it to their interest. As an example if America finds that Uranium deposits in Mijiyahan, Bosaso region, to be of vital US national interest, America will come with its ships, planes and Fox News, on any meager pretext, ( Please read the Anarchist News article of Banana Terrorism), may be to liberate the reer Bari people from their leaders, enticing them with schools, hospitals, golf courses, and of course to teach them principles of Basic Democracy for Dummies, ( King George Bush Version). All the while, the warlords and politicians are busy conducting conferences, in five star hotels, enjoying hot meals and sanitary facilities not available in their home districts. The afternoon in Doofaarrey, is the tea party time, little Mira chewing and womanizing sessions, delegates are busy filling their big mouths with the narcotic weed, their lungs with toxic fumes, and their minds with hate for their fellow countrymen of the other clans, what a healthy conference for a promising bright future for the Somali species? Miss Piggy, Reporting from Doofaarrey. For: Nurtel Network News Where a spade is called a spade

Gel jire yaal Wa is xasuusin in aan la illaawin afkeenna hooyo. Doodda afSomaliga ha muuqato Nur

JZK Sundus That is a deal, u make me a duaa, I write and share. Nur

Nurtel Network News Special Report The Nairobi Convention A group of politcians comprised of Somalis, Americans and Somali Americans are on their way to Nairobi to asecrtain a fair election for the delegates who are representing Somlai tribes and religions and sexual preferences minorities. The American Professinal Liars Association, the sponsor of the Niarobi Convention and the Somali Anarchists Union are working very closely to create a governorship ( reporting daily to the US Amabassador in Hargeisa) to reperesnt American interests in the region. Cag Biciid, the flamboyant candidate and favored choice of the American Professional Liars Association will be presenting his visionary policies very soon exclusively on this thread. Mr. Cag Biciid, an avowed pragmatist, does not beat around the " BUSH", he will not settle for cafeinated promises by "KOFI " Anan when his people are hungry for Condi " Rice" Brand and concrete deliveries of badly needed infrastructure stolen from Iraq, specially the power and telecom equipment and Islamic books that were difficult to burn, our Somali Sheikhs would appreciate to salvage the old books in any CONDI-tion. PLease visist this page again for Mr. Cag Biciid's daring proposal for his country and people. Cag Biciid For President campaign Nurtel Network News No Noose, is a Good news

Nurtel somali Language Service Presents: Dooddii Al Xajjaaj Bin Yusuf Iyo Saciid bin Jubeir Sheekadan waa sheeko cibrooyin badani ay ku jirto, waa is-horrtaagnaanta xaqa iyo baadilka ee weligiis jirey, jira imminka weligiina jiri doona. Waxaa khutbeeyay maalinkii Jimcaha ahaa Al Xajjaaj Bin Yusuf, markaasuu tujiyey dadka salaaddii Jumacaha, dabadeed wuxuu soo ag maray xabsiga dadka uu dulunka ku xidhay ayagoo ooyaya si uu ugu naxariisto, markaasuu maqlay oohintooda asagoo ugu jawaabaya " Ikhsa uu fiihaa waa laa tukallimuun" aayad Quraan ah oo Allah SWT uu qiyaamaha ku leeyahay daalimiinta, naarta ku dulliyooba hana ila hadlina. Dabadeed Xajjaaj wuxuu amray askartiisa iney keenaan Imaamka Saciid Bin Jubeir, markaaasuu Saciid Bin Jubeir sii xidhay ( Labistay) kafantiisii, iskuna carfiyey waxa meidka lagu carfiyo, markaasuu aaday oo u tagay Al Xajjaaj asagoo Allah dhikrinaya oo leh " Ilaahayow, ka tiirkiisa aan la ridi karinow, iyo cizzada aan laga reyn karinow, sharkiisa ( Xajjaj) i dhaafi," Saciid Bin Jubeir intuu sii socday wuxuu lahaa " Laa xawla wa laa quwata illaa billaah, wey khasaareen kuwa xaqa baddala, markaasuu Saciid u galay Xajjaaj, wuxuuna ku salaamay " Assalaamu cala man ittabacal Hudaa'" oo ah salaantii Muse uu ku salaamay Fircown. Markaasuu Xajjaj ku yidhi " Magacaa"? Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Magaceygu waa Saciid Bin Jubeir" ( Af Caribiga , Saciid macnihiisu waa mid barwaaqeysan, Jubeir macnihiisu waa mid aan la jabin karin oo kaban" Xajjaaj: " Ma tihidee, waxaad tahay kii hoogay oo jabnaa" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " hooyaday baa kaa og , saa iyadaa i bixisayee" Xajjaaj: " Adigana waad hoogtay, hooyadaana wey hoogtay" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Ghaibka, Allah unbaa garanaya" XajjaaJ: " Ka warran Nabi Muxammad SAWS?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Hanuuka Nabigeeda iyo Naxariista imaamkeeda" Xajjaaj: " Ka warran Cali?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Immamkii hanuunka, Allah ayuu u tagay" Xajjaj: " Aniga iga warran, maxaad iga qabtaaa?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " waxaad tahay Daalin Allah la hortagi doona dhiigga Muslimiinta" Xajjaaj: " Waxaad igu leedayahy dahab iyo qalin, ha la keena labo kiis oo ah dahab iyo qalin, markaa ku daadiya Saciid Bin Jubeir hortiisa" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " War Xajjaajow, Waa maxay waxani? haddaad u soo aruurusay hantidan inaad kaga baxsato cadhada Allah, wanagsanaa waxaad qabatay, haddaad ka soo aruurisay maalka fuqarada se, kibir iyo xad gudub awgii, waxaan ku dhaartay key nafteyda gacantiisa ku jirto, cabsida maalinka bandhigga weyn, maalinkaas, haweenn walba oo dhasheeda nuujisa wey ka tagi doonta dhasheeda yaab dartii" Xajjaj: " Waxaad igu leedahay kaban ( Guitar) iyo jaariyad ( gabadh) heesta" Saciid Bin Jubeir: waa ooyay iyadoo illintiisa ay qoysay gadhkiisii Xajjaaj: " Maxaa ku helay? ma mirqaantay?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Maya, laakin waxaan arkay haweentaan lagu kallifay howl aan loo abuurin, iyo xargo ( strings of the guitar) oo la soo jaray si Allah loogu caasiyo. Xajjaj: " Maxad sidaan u qosolno aad ugu qosli la'dahay?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Markaan xasuusto maalinka qubuurta laga soo dhex baxayo, oo quluubta wixii ku jireyna la soo saarayo, ayuu qosolka iga tagaa" Xajjaaj: " Hadaba , annaka maxaan u qosollaa?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Quluubtu isku mid ma aha" Xajjaj: " Waxaan kaaga yeeli doonaa dunidaa dab holca haya" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Haddey taasi dhab tahay, intaan Allah iska dhaafo ayaan adiga ku caabudi lahaa" Xajjaj: " Waxaan ku dili doonaa dil aan weli cid kale loo dilin, ee hadaba dooro" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Mayee, adiga dooro, wallaahi ima dishid dil , ayadoon sidaasoo kale laguu dilin qiyaamaha" Xajjaj: " Ha la dilo" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Waxaan wajigeyga i jeediyay kii abuuray cirka iyo dhulka, anoo u iilanahaya ( Allah) oo Muslim ah, oonan ka mid aheyn mushrikiinta" Xajjaj: " U jeediya meel an qibla aheyn" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Fa aynamaa tuwalluu fa thamma wajhu Allah" aayad Quraan ah, " meeshaad u jeedsataan ba, Waa wajiga Allah" Xajjaaj: " Dhulka dhiga" Saciid Bin Jubeir asagoo muusoonaya (smiling) ayuu akhriyay aayaddan: " Minhaa khalaqnaakum wa fiihaa nuciidukum wa minhaa nukhrijikum taaratan ukhraa" macneheedu ( iyada ( dhulka) ayaan idinka abuurray, iydaanad ku noqon doontaan, haddana iyada ayaa markale la idin ka soo saarayaa" Xajjaaj: " ma qosleysaa?" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " Waxaan ku qoslayaa dulqaadka uu Allah kuu leeyahay, iyo sidaad ugu indho adagtahay inaad ku caasiso" Xajjaaj: " Ha la gawraco" Saciid Bin Jubeir: " ilaahayow, dabadey mujrimkan ha ku saalladin cid kale" Waa la dilay Saciid Bin Jubeir, Allahna waa aqbalay ducadiisii, dabadeedna Xajjaaj waa uu bukooday, wuxuuna u taahayey muddo bil ah sida dibiga, asaga oon dhadhamineyn cunno iyo cabitaan, iyo hurdo la'aan, wuxuuna dhihi jirey, " wallaahi ma seexan habeen aan ku riyoonin anigoo ku dabaallanaya wabiyaal dhiig ah, Xajjaj wuxuu dhihi jirey: " Maxaa ii geeyay Saciid, Maxaa ii geeyay Saciid" Intuusan dhiman ka hor, Xajjaj wuxuu odhan jirey: " waxaan ku riyooday qiyaamihii anigoo naf walba oon dilay la iga abaalmariyey in hal jeer la ii dilo, laakin Saciid bin Jubeir dartii waxaa la ii dilay todobaatan jeer" Allah wuxuu Leeyahay: " Waxa la idiin ballan qaadayna, waa wax iman doona, mana tihidin kuwo baxsanaya" Waxaa Tarjumay Al Faqiiru Ilaa Raxmati Rabbih Nur 2003 Nurtel Softwaano Series Somali Language Service

Brother Mujahid Assalamu Calaykum wa raxmatullaah wa barakaatuh. You write: Originally posted by muraad: [qb] originally wrote by Mujahid "Yacnii my understanding is that none can intercede (regardless whether there are salixiin or not) with Allaah accept the Prophet (SAW) in the aakhirah. " Answer Bismillah wa Allahul Mustacaan Walaal, Shafaaca in Arabic has the following meaning: A petition to forfeit the sin of a sinner. Let us look in the Holy Quraan. Al Baqra 255 : " man dhal ladhii yashfacu cindahu illa bi idhnih" Who is there to petition on someone elses behalf without his pernmission. Al Acraaf 53: " Fa hal lanaa min shufacaa fa yashfacuu lanaa" Are there petitioners, so they can petitition on our behalf" Al Shucaraa 100: " Fa maa lanaa min shaaficiin wa laa saadiiqin xamiim" We do not have any petitioners on our behalf, nor a close friend" From the above we deduse that the concept of petitioning for others in the day of judgement is a fact, as well as the concept of others being advocates against you, specially your body parts who will utter in stark details of your deeds. The shafaaca does come from many sources: 1. Anbiyaa 2. Shuhadaa ( Martyrs) 3. Saalixiin ( not while we live, and while they are in their graves, but in the day of judgement if we cooperated in doing kheyr and xaqq on earth) 4. Quraan. The Holy Quraan will make shafaaca for those who lived with Quraan, recited, stuided, tought etc. according to the famous ducaa " Wa ajcali Quaraana rabica quluubinaa wa dhihaabi axzaaninaa, wa ajcalhu SHAFIICAN lanaa..." The Wrong Shafaaca The Kufaar belief that their gods, or their pious ones will petition for them in the day of judegement, so Allah throughout the quraan adds a condition that no shafaaca is accepted without Allahs permission which is tied to following the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Walllaahu Aclam Nur

Conscious Manipulation A great article from a great scholar, jazaka/jazake Allaahu khairan fro sharing. The middle course needs advocates as most people fall in the extremes, those who worship Allah on the margins, Tafriid or ifraad. By the way, your tagline poem, from the best of my recollection goes like this: " Uxibbus Saalixiina wa lastu minhumu lacallii an anaala bihumu ashafaacatii, Wa akrahu man kaanat tijaaratuhul macaasii, wa low kunnaa sawaa-an fil bidaacati" Translation. I love the pious although I do not count myself as one of them, so, my (love for them ) may earn me Shafaaca (their intecession in aakhira)" And I hate those who made sins their core business, although I trade in the same line of commodity" Nur

OPPINIONATED SIS you write: Originally posted by Opinionated: ^ in essence, the woman is a child who needs protection and chaporoning at all times My response: in essence women are princesses who are entrusted with the most daunting job, bringing up good men and women. These princesses require protection of the law, the universal law of Allah SWT. Because their job is so important, men are supposed to serve them with respect and treat them as their partners in life each doing their sahre of the responsibiulity entrusted on us of prepeari ng future men and women to live up to the purpose of creation. Allah says : "Wa jacala beynakum mawaddatan wa raxmah" " He made you ( men and women) loving each other and caring for one another" So, a man who understands this principle, will be a soldier to protect the female from danger, and a caring man at home who supports her in her daunting job, a princess indeed. And that is Islams outlook. Nur

Beerlula sis Darman bro. Eid Mubaarak, where in Garasbaalley are you guys? Nur

Eid Mubaarak Nomads I cane across a post by brother Nino-Brown who was frustrated by un Islamic behaviour by some nomads, I just want to share with all of you that the best way to correct others is through dialogue, and a realxed one at that, so if you find anyone on these boards failing the grades, please bring them on, we will help them here at Nurtel opticians with a good pair of glasses, believing iis indeed seeing. Nur

Shukri sis Travelling poses more physical risks to women than men, unaccompanied woman travlling in remote areas can be the target of criminals. This law was made to help the safety of women. After the advent of Islam, most social ills were corrected by the sharia law, any man found committing violence against women was punished, and at the same time, women's travelling was restricted to a maximum of a day and a night without a mahram, a double check to minimize the occurance of an avoidable crime against women. Likewise , Park police in many jursidictions do not allow women to walk after sunset in unlit wilderness for their protection. Can you imagine a single female runner in a park after midnight being safe? "But, today the world is different" you may say, " flying SAS to DareSsalam with a stop over in Cairo for a day, may noyt be dangerous" The answer to this is that laws in Islam have a room for emergencies, and if a clear case of necessity ( DARUURA) is proven, then the womans caretaker or waly may approve for her travel alone for that period of time. The necessity though is a complex question that needs its own thread and InshAllah I will work on it soon. Nur

Jazeerah Eid Mubaaarak walaal, I enjoyed the discussion between u and Entreprenuer, very valuable exchange of thoughts, so keep up the spirit. Kheyr Yes walaal, any good principle can be used 4 the wrong reasons (KALIMUTU XAQIN URAADA BIHAAL BAATIL). InshaAllah I will clarify the conditions that make up " DARUURAH" or " IKRAAH", compulsion in Islam, conditions that render some laws ineffective. Nur

Nomads Eid Mubaarak This thread is an Eid present to sister X Quizit, who I have mistakenly angered with my sarcasm after I 've responded to her questions on polygamy, As a writer, my style is to use sarcasm to provoke thoughts of my readers, but, in no way do i mean harm to anyone, so in case I've ever came across like a hostile to you, rest assured I am not. I smile as as i write. Topic 1 The Somali Anarchist League El Doret, Kenya. Letter to President Bush. Dear President Bush We the Somali Anatchists are closely following the war in Iraq, as anarchists, we understand you better than all those people in London and Mideast who demonstrate against your policies. We see you the future leader of the anarchist world, a world in which no one trusts United Nation and in which might makes right. What are weopons good for if not tested every ten years? Of special importance to our Anarchist organization is your result oriented character, you have given a new dimension to your name, you are Mr. Bush, and you sure do not beat around the bush to get what you want, you want oil, and we believe after seeing the fireworks in Bagdaad, that you will get the oil flowing to USA in no time. We are in the information age, the electronic and molecular genetic age, the world under your supremacy became a small village, with an archaic organization ruled by an african guy whose name sounds like starbucks coffee, ( Is it a coincidence that when an African guy ruled the UN the World became chaotic and anarchic World, I am sure that Europeans will say, " Ilmo Xaaji Dhagax baa aduunka xukuma, bal eega sidey aduunkii u galeen?"). As Somali anarchists, we like our African UN leader who makes sure that anarchy in the world spreads and prevails, our anarchist organization believe that Mr. Kofi Anan should focus on Malaria and Mosquitoes in Africa ( his true size) and to leave political issues to the superpower warlords like you and regional warlords like us. In Contrast, in our regional village of Somalia, we believe in liberation of all weak people who live near rich resources, like Jubbaland and Kismayo, that is why all of our tribes are now fighting over these rich resources just like cats, all the American and European companies will be fighting over the lucrative contracts in Iraq. We also understand that unless something is destroyed it can not be rebuilt, we understand destruction very well, come visit Mogadishu, in the US Embassy in Mogadishu there is a guy who lives near the abandoned American Embassy, his name " JAJABIYE" this is true, we are not joking and e is still there. As you recall we destroyed Somalia, but unlike you, we are broke, can you come and rebuild Somalia for us ?, we would agree to a 50/50 deal and we are ready to sign a 1000 year contract, we want to be liberated like Iraqis so we can taste the freedom by carrying our guns in our pick up trucks just like you guys do it in Texas. For the first time, all anarchists feel that we have a friend in a high place, here are some of the lessons you have tought us, because of brevity I will only discuss two of them today. 1. Democracy ( DEM) in ARabic means blood, Cracy means rule, anarchists rule by blood, and we fully agree with that strategy, Bagdaad reminds us Hargeisa being bombarded by the Southafrican contracted Airforce by Siad Barre, and Basra remids us the Mogadishu looting and Bililiqo, that is how we destroyed our country. Are you going to do that to the entire global village? 2. Freedom of speech : Say all you can if you do not mind but stay out of the way of our tanks artillery range if you happen to be an independent reporter for non patriotic channels. 3. Freedom to bear arms: Only the mightiest warlord is allowed to bear arms,nuclear arms not irresponsible warlords who can misfire and hurt innocent bystanders across the atlantic ocean and mediterranean seas. As we have previously requested, removing Nuclear weaopons from Iraq is a good idea, but make sure you also take it from Russians, Israel, and Reer Qansax, otherwise, we the Somali Anarchists will develop our secret Banana Bomb, our scientists have for the first time isolated a gene in banana that will cause a desease known as smilitus, in the initial trials, volunteers reported non ending episodes of laughter and smiling which is contagious and capabale in neutralizing the entire US Army in minutes. After reading this article if you have smiled, it is possible that you may already be infected, seek medical treatment, which we also help cure with a dervative of the Papaya seed. Nur 2003 Nurtel Syndicates --------------------------------------------- TOPIC 2 The Somali Anarchist Declaration Against The Iraq War. We, the assocoiation of Anarchists, representing all Somali Factions for unregulated world without a governement, condemn the Iraq invasion. In the Meantime, we are against the proliferation, sale, production, and usage of Banaanas as a Weapon of MOSS destruction, we will never be the first to use a banaana , but will not hesitate to use our banananas for a deterent. We the anarchists union envision an unregulated world without any WMD, no nuclear, Banana, or botanical, biological, insects, camel dung, or any forms for terrorizing the masses. We propose that the USA stop the war, and in return we will work together to disarm the rest of the world. All weopons shall be banned except for swords, that way there will be zero civilian casualty, and only the brave soldiers will fight and the cowards will stay home. The problem as we the anarchists see is that smart bombs equipped with exact GPS location of an enemy, or the ability to ask neighbors of the enemy whereabouts, is threatening the future of anarchy, we are afraid of a controlled world like the Nazi Fuhrer regime in Germany, but this time with sophisticated technology, We do nit like Technology to do the fighting, we want men to fight like men, one on one, so we demand to go back to the old days, when two armies clashed led by their leaders and later, the survivors were declared as winners. We feel that America with 11000 warheads needs to destroy all these nuclear warheads , in return we offer that we freely dispose them and to sell them as scrap, in case America is worried about their dsiposal, ( we do not mind the radiation). Our dream is wars with only swords and sticks, sizes of which shall not be regulated by the UN. Anyone who wants to see the future of wars shall visit our official site: The official site of the Istunka Afgoi. Smali Anarchist Declaration ( SAD) Eldoret, Kenya " The Best Government, is the least Government" HARRY S. TRUMAN. ------------------------------------------------- TOPIC 3 Banana Terrorism Nurtel News Analyses Not Quite The News The US Administration is weighing the possibility of declaring war on Somalia after reports that Somali refugees have thrown bananas on Park Avenue in New York, causing many American pedestrians to slip and fall, some with injuries. The banana samples used in these attacks were traced to a small town in Somalia called Afgoi which presents a fresh evidence of complicity of Somalis to commit Banana terrorism to hurt innocent pedestrians along Park Avenue and in affect creating a new weapon of MOSS destruction ( Moss is Somali means Banana) which among other things can cause loss of balance and a lot of laughter for the onlookers, which in turn can endanger their intelligence, the Administration has equated this threat to that of Iraq, and the threat is being taken too seriously by the white House staff as the president ordered bananas for lunch today. The administration is taking the case to the UN to get an approval to declare war on Somalia and rid the country of the war lords who have caused a lot of destruction the past 12 years. The administration is looking for the funniest guy in Somalia to lead this nation to happiness after years of pain and sorrow. The White House report shows clear evidence that all the Somali leaders went bananas, and if they are not stopped, the whole world can follow suit. The USA is sharing this report with many countries and specially China the most populous nation in the world, which is worried that if the banana threat comes to china, it will be the most important historical event since the construction of the Great Wall of China. The administration will appoint a commission of advisors for the Somali American banana wars led by the CEO of Dole fruit company who will oversee the dibananaization of Somalis so that Somalia will never be used as launching pad for banana terror aimed at making fun at American citizens walking down American streets. The Banana war will be led by Dole and other fruit companies in Florida citrus belt, California Fruit growers, McDonalds Restaurants and Red Lobster Restaurants. Red Lobster Restaurants have shown interest in the giant Somali Lobsters that are threatening the Dubai markets and destabilizing the Lobster prices which can cause Lobster wars for the unknown kind. As a response to the American possible invasion, the spokesman for the 15 Banana Warlord Governments in Somalia is threatening to use a secret banana formula that will make Americans laugh too much and loose control of their guns during landing, which will make them ineffective to control the Banana farms in Afgoi, The white House meanwhile, is taking this news as a new threat which is sending shockwaves across the Banana complex in Guatamala and Equador. NURTEL NETWORK NEWS No Noose, is A Good News. ------------------------------------------------- TOPIC 4 BILILIQO of Iraq ( ANA) Anarchist News Agency The looting and anarchy taking place in Iraq after the power vacuum is similar to that of Somalia circa 1991, Most of us Somalis can relate to Iraq, the only difference is that in only 3 days Iraq will have lost almost 90 percent of its heritage the remnants after Hulako, Jenkhis Khan, Mongols and Tartars, and now, the Americans are there to loot, not gold, but oil. In contrast, Somalia only lost the " Saciid Barqash Museum", Xaawo Taako taallo, Sayyid and Dhagaxtuur Maxamed Madoobe, statues The crowds in Baghdad seem jubilant for the departure of the Butcher of Baghdad, the man who suddenly appeared to power as soon as the Shah of Iran was overthrown by a popular revolution. The Shah was the USA man in the region and he lost his power to angry students who demonstrated in all over the world. Now that Saddam is gone in a mysterious way, we can recall that he coincidentally waged a war against Iran which lasted for ten years in a war he was supported by the Arab countries and the USA who sold him Chemical weapons to kill the Kurds which America is now coming to "liberate". ( During the Iraq-Iran War, Israel was selling weapons to Iran, while USA was selling Sattelite pictures of the Iranian positions to the Iraqis so both USA and Israel made good money while these these rascals annihilated each other. The funny thing is that Saddam could not contiune this last war for more than three weeks against Americans! that really beats me! Saddam ( read backwords as, Mad Aass ) went on rapage again taking over a corporation known as Q8, a little oil colony of Brittain, declaring it as his 19th region after he got assurances from the US Ambassador Mrs Gillespie of Q8 , who told him that US`will not interfere in Arab-Arab affairs. Saddam goes to war, and is again defeated and thousnads of his retreating army are buried alive by US Rambo forces (Which is one reason among many why US and Israel does not want the establishment of International war crime tribunals) After the Q8 adventure, Saddam survives 10 year of embargo, My African friend African Coffee Anan, ( Better than Starbuks) provides Saddam with a McDonalds Hamburger for oil deal, which made all his Iraqi soldires overweight and unable to fight, (you know what big macs can do), While Americam Soldiers were put on Oprah Winfrey Diet of Broccoli and Beans. Now after a show of bravery, Saddam, suddenly disappears in thin air, ( Bootin libaaxle, kuftin sagaarle) along with all of his 19 ministers, leaving his soldiers for target practice by new marine conscripts who are learning their first mock war to prepare for the eventual confrontation with formidable China red army. The Somali anarchist News agency believes that the USA never had a friend better than Saddam, and Noriega, But after their job was finished they have to be retired, or sedated. And for the coming years, Saddam will be a mythical peronality like Elvis Presley, people will argue if he is alive or dead. Thirty years form now, say 2033, some politician will write his memoirs to entertain yet another generetion with the deception and lies that created the gulf war episodes 1 throught 5.( I am just predicting that Syria is also playing the game, USA has to unearth human genocide done by Hafez Asad killing 30 thousands Syrians in Hama in the eighties uprising) Then the Syrian people too can be "libereted", then, the GIs will come to Somalia to settle score with our Somali worlords who will shiver and tremple, knowing the Marines and Rangers are coming to Mogadishu with revenge in their minds, this time Black Hawk will take revenge, taking few warlords to jail in USA with Noiriega. The future is interesting. NURTEL NEWS NETWORK No Noose is Good News ----------------------------------------------- TOPIC 5 Somali Anarchists Letter to George Bush Dear Prseident Bush On behalf of the Anarchist Association of Somalia I congratulate you for the quick win in Iraq that you badly needed to justify for your upcoming reelection. This letter is coming to you as an inspiration from your friends in the area, friends who believe that the world should be united under a new world government that will establish a new world order ( or disorder) as predicted by your Dad a decade ago. The idea of uniting diverse people, with diverse backgrounds under one world government has eluded the Somali Anarchist Association for the past decade. But, watching the fireworks in Iraq and Afghanistan has reassured your Anarchist Allies in Somalia and the world over that might is indeed right and since you represent the mightiest nation on earth, Somali Anarchists have unanimously decided to be loyal to your world government in order to further the common ideals we share of power brokering. We also support your decision to ignore the UN and all those silly French and German politicians who have no idea of the enormous job that is awaiting you of establishing some sort of a new world order. As I am not capable of writing, this letter was prepared by my secretary his name is Carrabey , meaning he mispronounces and misspells words frequently, so in case some words do make a different sense, you can decide what it means for yourself, just like how you deal with the world bodies such as Human Rights and International War criminals court. The Anarchist, association is commending you for acting locally and sinking globally , sorry ( Carrabey misspelled this one, I meant Thinking Globally). The question that forces itself in light of current world affairs is how can America sink globally when it is acting so well locally.? The answer according to the Somali Anarchist Sinkers and the Somali Chaotic Sink Tank, is that great empires sink big when they spread themselves too sin (thin) and after a while implode after all the resources they have stole all those years are used up in adventures far from home and when their moral high ground of " Justice for All" becomes meaningless at home and overseas, which affects the productivity mindset of the citizenry and even increases contempt for the Emperor's power, triggering an avalanche of mishaps that brings the empire down, just like it did to Empires of old, which in effect gives a new meaning to the negative of Descartes famous argument " I Sink, therefore I do NOT Exist" As an anarchist, I share with you the notion that there is no need for the United Nations, I believe that Coffee Anan Salary can feed 200,000 Somalis per day, so, by disbanding these gangs who live on poor peoples misery cycle, we believe that your highness as the new Emperor of the New World Order, that you can reach the end users of the US aid directly, cutting off the middle man, and you do not have to pay your hard cash, you can literally pay peanuts, (Peter Pan Brand is my favorite). Somalis would be grateful to consume the overproduced American wheat cereals and Florida Citrus ( frozen Concentrates before they expire) which in economic terms can create the dependence of the Somali economy on American aid, thus making them obedient while at the same time stabilizing commodity prices in the USA ( Do not worry, in case Somalis get sick, you can send expired medicines, and you are the Judge and the Policeman) The UN is a waste of resources, and as the Thief executive officer of the World, ( I mean Chief Executive, Carrabey, my secretary misspells frequently) you should invade the UN building, since the UN office is in New York, a US property, and then disband them. If anyone disagrees with you, remind them that there should be only one world Power, and one United Nations. How can they forget that there are more Germans in Wyoming than Bavaria's Black Forest and more Gadabursi in Ohio than in Borama. So, the new United Nations should be declared as The United States of America, a nation of nations in a melting pot not a salad bowl like Soviet union. I know that you like to compensate Chairman Coffe Anan once you disband the UN. The ( EDCO) Entrepreneurial Development Cooperative Office of The Somali Anarchist Association will closely work with Coffee Anan to trade mark his name in all Somali tribal Jurisdictions as a Caf� for the Armchair Veteran Generals of The Somali Civil War ( Fadhi Ku Dirir), We would even consider to nominate him the Honorary Visiting Anarchist of the year, to thank him for all the anarchy that his organization helped create and maintain in Somalia and the world. Mr. Carrabey, signing for Mr. Cag Biciid of Nurtel Nairobi, Kenya 2003 Nurtel Network News No Noose is Good News

Eid Mubaarak Nomads Some great discussions. Nino Brown. An Islamic principle says " Al daruuraat tubiixul maxduuraat" necessities make haraam things, a halaal" The job of a muslimah gynocologist is a MUST, if all Muslim women shun the profession, then they'd be forced to have male gynocologists, a worse situation then tolerating LAGHW , nonesense talk about sex, alcohol and TV, you don't have to work in a hospital to over hear these nonsense, it is everywhere. Conquest. You have raised a very important topic, extremely critical, Islamic Education and the Media. At Nurtel, the one man Corporation dedicated for Internet DAWA, we are just doing that, and from our labs, new radical cutting edge Dawa ideas are rolling out, so come on aboard, your thoughts are higly appreciated. The battle of the minds and hearts has been ongoing fro decades, the result is sad, all you have to do is read some of the posts on this " Islamic" site. What we need are radical thoughts for reaching and teaching, while making sure to abide by the sunnah guidelines while doing so, because the message in Islam, and the Means must be closely interwoven like a web. Allah SWT says about the MEANS of DAWA: " Qul haadihi sabiilii, adcuu ilal laahi, calaa basiiratin, anaa wa man ittabacanii, wa subxaanallahi wa maa anaa minal mushrikiin" Say : This is indeed my way, I call (mankind) and myself to ( serve ) Allah SWT, with Baseerah ( KNOWLEDGE FROM ALLAH), (to guide) me and those who follow me, ( to bear witness that) I am not one of those who make Allah a share holder with his creatures over his Dominion and Honor. From the above verse, we learn that : 1. The Way = The Sunnah Tawheed Expressway 2. Baseerah, Deep understanding of FIQH empowered by piety, prayers, Dhiker and kindness to others. 3. Making towheed the OBJECTIVE around which the DAWA work is centered, NO SHIRK is tolereated. Nur 2003 Nurtel Media Group Real Solutions From An Imaginery Company

Sophist bro. I agree with you bro., the word walaal by itself is not harmful, but the way it is said, body language, and the facial expressions and voice tones that go with it can make a word of difference to a sick male, some males who have sick hearts even misinterpret an innocent ABBOWE. In the Northeast, BOOWE, is used and in Western parts, HUUNNO is used, they are intimate expressions of brtotherhood, but if a sister is not careful, she can send the wrong signal. I think, WALLAAL to be the safest and business way to address a brother or a sister for that matter in order not to confuse people who are already confused. I will be away Eid Mubaarak to all Nur

Nurtel Media Center Assalamu Calaykum Nomads. The last ten days are here, in which there is a night worth thousand months in value, it is the last mile, the finishing line after a month of fasting and seeking the mercy of Allah SWT, it is time to roll up our sleeves and dedicate our souls for its maker. For that reason, Nurtel and Company, is closing shop, and as much as I'd like to hang around with these virtual nomads, this opportunity of the last ten days of Ramadan will not be here for another year, and I am not sure that I will be around either. For that reason I will be away from the boards, but making duaa for all of you will be in my mind. Likewise, I kindly ask you to forgive me if I have made any remarks that may have upset you, and pray for me. Eid Mubaarak Walaalkiin Nur

Sundus sis A great question sis The Term " Abboowe" , is indeed an itimate way of addressing a male. If he is your brother, that is nice, at least in the southern slang of parlance, if he is not your husband, you are begging for trouble, as the word connotes intimacy which with the assistance of Satan could lead to Haraam. Allah SWT instructs women " Falaa takhdacna fil qowl" meaning do not give-in while talking to non mahram males, so that " Fa yadmaca alladii fi qalbihi marad" lest the one with bad intentions exploits it as a window of opportunity. As for your second question, the issue is khilaafi, meaning the culimaa have differing opinions on it. On one hand, no Muslim who has known the joy of Quraan or the love of Allah SWT can wait a week before they read his wise words, and on the other hand, the period of Xaydh, is an internal cleansening and purification of the soil from which we are created like seeds, and as a result, the moods of the female change while the process takes place, she needs comfort and care from those around her. so, as Allah SWT says, " La yamussuhu illal mutaharuun" no one should touch (Quraan without ) tahaaara. And, because we all have the daily call of nature in which we are not TAAHIR, or for the females the period, this opinion says, she should not read Quraan. Now, some ulima found a compromise, they suggest that a woman may not touch the Quraan, but reading Quraan from memory, or placing the Quraan in front of her to read without touching is OK. Personally, I am of the opinion that a woman should make a lot of dhiker instead, and do not read Quraan as Allah SWT exempted her from praying for a reason. Dhiker is always open, and it is powerful enough to keep her feet firm on the right track. Nur

To sisters who may have been offended by this article, here is my response to one of you: Sister Sawsan Assalamu Caleykum, wa raxmatuh wa barakaatuh. You write: "Ok,i have been an observer of this forum for a while,and i must admit nuur i admire your postings.You postings are always well written not to mention they are informative and also comprehensive.I appreaciate the fact they are appealing tend to cover essential points without being complicated." Answer: I appreciate your evaluation, positive and negative, a feedback is always helpful and I welcome it with a big heart. You write: "Your latest post has struck a deep wound within me,i couldnt resist but to reply.I was literally blown off my chair after reading your post." Answer: My Dear Sister, I am sorry to hear that, I never intended to hurt a Muslimah, if it was not warranted, please forgive me, on the otherhand, if what I said had a merit of sorts, again, sorry for your misunderstanding of the topic. You write : "Training Academy for Somali men on how to cook and clean,what were you thinking that this the good for women???" Dear Sister: At this point it may help to simplify things. Yous see sister, Farmers turn the soil to plant the new crops, in doing so, lot of nutrients surface and pests die. This process is painful, for the farmer, plant and pests, but it is necessary effort. Likewise, our society has many ills that led to our current debacle, the solution of which are firmly placed in our faith, Islam, but unfortunately, our culture sidelined our faith in setting standards of acceptability of social norms and cloning itseklf as Islam. Addressing these social ills are sure to upset some, but at the end, I intend to show that our faith calls for justice to all, and if some members of our society are not treated justly, then this will reflect to negatively characterize our faith to be an unjust faith, XaashaaLillaah. In my writings, you have to be careful, I freely switch from being serious to sarcastic and joking, but with one common objective, to provoke questions in the minds, to pull people away from their comfortable chairs so they can take ownership of the topic being discussed, and your repsonse is a proof to that. Going back to the topic, I have sensed that you have not read all of my rebuttals on this topic, if you did not, please read them and come back, if you did, continue reading. Dear Sister, Like medicine, different viewers respond to different style of writing, while some are blown away like in your case, this topic was intended to be the light side of men's lack of participation in helping out house chores. If a man can sit in front of TV for hours, is it such a bad idea that he learns a skill or two to give his wife a break? a skill that may prove helpful when a man is faced by a wife in labour, kids at school and no relatives to help out? As for he unmarried men, they can even boast to their fiancees about their new found masculine skill, a sure attention getter if he is wife hunting. Now this brings us the question of our faith's stand in this new role for men. It was reported that Omar Ibnu Khattab appointed a governor to a region under the Caliphate. Omar sent an emissary to audit the governor by interviewing a sampling of the citizens. The emissary reported to Omar that the constituents of the region have pointed to three grievances against their governor. 1. The Governor does not stay behind at night to socialize with coworkers and citizens after work hours. 2. The Governor takes one day of the week off 3. The Governor comes to work late in the morning every other day. The Caliph Omar came to town, a Town Hall meeting was called and Omar requested that the governor respond to the citizens concerns. The Governor requested to make the response in private and only to the Caliph, but Omar refuseed and demanded an open response to the public, after all he is responsible to them. The Governor responded: O Caliph, I do not stay late at night at work, because, I reason if I serve the public all day, I need to serve Allah at night in prayers, so I go home to pray the Midnight Prayers ( Qiyaamul Leil) Second, the reason I do not show up for work one day in the week, because, I WASH MY CLOTHES. and I do not have a spare Thawb. Third, the reason I come late on alternative days is because, I take turns in cooking with my wife, when she cooks and washes, I come early, when I cook and wash , I come late. That is a lesson from our Islamic Heritage, now let us compare it to lessons of our Somali Heritage, which so many people are upset that I caled it antiquated. Note, Our Faith is not antiquated, our culture is. In Baadiye, The men,s main job is to go look after the camels all day, play Shax on the ground, indulge in oratory, clan praising poetry, and from time to raid other tribes to steal their camels , maim or kill their people, take their women by force and marry them against their wishes. I personally know people who were born that way. Women on the other have the following responsibilities: 1. Building, removing, packing of Aqal Somali whenever the nomads move. ( This is a construction company on the go) 2. Milking, cooking ( There is no Aunt Jemima Waffles, or uncle Bens Rice brands) she has to prepare it from scratch. 3. Clean up of the Aqal Somali, or Muddul 4. The painful nine month Pregnancy journey , Rearing, and raising kids. You write: " I would like to being by saying that men and women have been created equally by their creater and are subjected to the same transaction and behavioural views as expressed in the holy Qu'an.However we posse different biological functions and different physiological structure,for that specific reason Allah has signed each sex to a different role within the home.When signed to each role,we were placed to how we would tolerate our roles.Therefore a womens role become her home." Answer: In one of my responses defending Islam's view of womens place in society, I wrote: " The industrial Revolution presented a dire need for workers in the assembly lines and industrialists invented a great lie called the Womens liberation. What it meant was simply to use women as a labor force in factories, pay them peanuts, and then use them for sex objects at the end of the day for free. Liberated women got their new found previllage to pay for their own beer, get drunk like men and become one of the guys, in addition to their biological constraints and emotional hardships. " I Also wrote: " 1. Women are dignified, Allah gave them dignity, ( Wa laqad Karramnaa banii aadama) as partners of men in life. They have a role in society as important to that of men, but not the same. The Prophet SCWS told them that if they do their part, they will get as much reward as men. In an ideal Islamic setting, women would be entrusted to look after the narturing, rearing, educating and upbringing future men and women, a daunting task by any yardstick. The end product if these women do their job right is a good society with honest, hardwaorking, ethical, and respectful members of society" You write: " A womens role in the olden days was her home ,where she was situated happly while husbands fulfilled the role of the provider. So why would you reverse roles?" Answer: I did not reverse it, I found it that way, I do no agree with it as you can see from my last paragraph, but, I am realistic, I found the mess and we can not stick our heads in the sand and expect the problem to go away. You Write: " Ofcourse we are also aware that Islam does not require women to participate in trade or proffessions unless neccessary" Answer " Neither does Islam forbid it if done under the auspices of Sharia law. You Write : " Why nur go to the extend to develope a training acadamy for household chores,women can tackle such a daily obstacle which requires basically no help???: Answer : Prophet Abraham Caleyhi Salaam did not really mean the Big SANAM Killed the little ASNAAM either, I hope you get my point sister. You write: " You should be wasting your enegry on battling the high numbers of jaad chews within our society rather than upgrading our brothers culinary skills to an advantage stage." Answer: So do you suggest that women cook for these Qaad Chewing guys, while they sit idle and talk nonsense all day? That is no good strategy at all, walaasheey diinta aan ku walaallownay. Besides, I am passionate in presenting topics that question, and provke our thoughts, and for one single intention, Allah's Pleasure, can you think of a more noble cause that should drive people? Nur

To brothers who are offended by this write up, you are not alone, here is my answer to WALID: Brother Waleed you ask : Don't you think a comment such as yours is ridiculously feminine. I mean, have you ever seen a Somali man pointing out a fellow Somali man who been already taking. You can run, but you can NOT hide NASRA." You see brother Waleed, In Islam, we do not have the battle of the sexes as you may have been influnced by western media. You seem to have lost your sense of direction due to your lack of Islamic knowledge and shallow knowlege of Western ideals, you seem confused and not confident in your role in society as a male. So when a man comes to the defense of women, he is either a traitor to his gender, or a woman hiding behind a males screen name. Why not think of a third possibility, An enlightening brother who shows you the way. Let me take you back in time, to the eighteen century Europe at the beginning of the industrialization revolution. Up to this point in time, women in Europe were literelly possessed by men, in the medieval times, soldiers used to lock their women with Chastity belt and take the keys with them. Women in these days were were solely sex objects, for the pleasure and entertainment of men. They rarely appeared in scholastic, artistic or business innovation. The industrial Revolution presented a dire need for workers in the assembly lines and industrialists invented a great lie called the Womens liberation. What it meant was simply to use women as a labor force in factories, pay them peanuts, and then use them for sex objects at the end of the day for free. Liberated women got their new found previllage to pay for their own beer, get drunk like men and become one of the guys, in addition to their biological constraints and emotional hardships. Women realized what has happened to them, but instead of understanding the roots of the problem, they began their feminist movemement which you have referred that I belong to. I do not think that you understand the political, social and religious implication of the feminist movement, because if you have indeed read my write-ups, you would have known better than that. Where do I stand on this issue: 1. Women are dignified, Allah gave them dignity, ( Wa laqad Karramnaa banii aadama) as partners of men in life. They have a role in society as important to that of men, but not the same. The Prophet SCWS told them that if they do their part, they will get as much reward as men. In an ideal Islamic setting, women would be entrusted to look after the narturing, rearing, educating and upbringing future men and women, a daunting task by any yardstick. The end product if these women do their job right is a good society with honest, hardwaorking, ethical, and respectful members of society. If they fail, sorry to say this, but we have fleeing refugees, moriyaan, and worthless unmotivated men who hang around coffe shops all day talking about Triabalism. So, you either keep your head in the sand, or seek to change your mindset, being a man is not having two balls, it means being sensitive to the needs to those entrusted to you. Nasra is not a bad name, but because at birth I was declared a boy, and to your dismay, I remain a healthy male to this day, it may not be a bad idea after all to use Naasirul Deen as my screen name. In Conclusion, may I remind you that: Simple minds talk about people Average minds talk about events Great minds talk about Ideas Brother Waleed, where do you belong in that spectrum? Nur

Flying Still sis You write: "With that being said don't you think that loving allah will cause you to love someone for the sake of allah? I don't think someone who doesn't love allah can really truely love another human being. What do you think?" You are right sis wallahi, true love is that of Allah only, and for that matter, any love that is for a mortal is sure to have a bad ending, but a love for a mortal in Allah SWT can unite the couple in this life and the next, the real purpose behind marriage. Entreprenuer br. I still remember your response to tis post, it was the funniest I read, can you add to it again? Nur

Salaams Nomads So many inetersting posts while I was away, so many good posts, unfortumately, so little time to read'em all. Baashi Bro. Glad for the clarification, now your story and that of Sophist need a creative post of its own, how to juggle all these requirements in times of distress. These days, I also have proble with my relatives in the west answering my phone when I am on the road away from you know where.Just by looking on the ID , they reason that my call is an incoming distress call looking for qaaraan, so I have to place many calls before someone takes the chance and sighs with relief that it is me, nur, and I am sending you money, instead of asking you to send a relative money. It is didfficult to ballance, but as Mulsims, we are missing out on the best opportunity in our life: ENJOYING TO HELP OUR RELATIVES IN DISTRESS. Wallahi bro, I enjoy, and the more i do, the better peieces in my life fall in thir respects places. Bashi, allow me to post my answer later in a way that can show new dimensions to this problem, problems that you have mentioned are diamonds in the rough, it takes some rock solid values to polish these rough diamonds ( problems) so that we emerge as winners. Nur

Maha sis Jazakellahu khairan sis Maymouna SIS Yes I repost these topics here, because the issue are the same although the audience are different, but I have started new ones here so make sure you clic'em all, you never know when I will surprise you sis. Nur