http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3913284 "Sen. Clinton is claiming basically the entire eight years of the Clinton presidency as her own, except for the stuff that didn't work out in which case she says she has nothing to do with it," said Barack Obama. "There is no doubt that Bill Clinton had faith in her and consulted with her on issues, in the same way that I would consult with Michelle, if there were issues. On the other had, I don't think Michelle would claim that she is the best qualified person to be a United States Senator by virtue of me talking to her on occasion about the work I've done."

Originally posted by Muslim Somali: If Taiwan failed to get a seat in the united nation with its geopolitical importance, international awareness and resources, how do you think Somaliland can make it through and all of us know how Somaliland state depends totally on international community support combined with Tax revenues. A super-power like China is avoiding Taiwan to get their independence. The case is different....

^^^ Could have said all that without "For instance, the one Northern tribe I know best for both my parents belong to it" BS...We know the reason you wrote all that was to come against a certain clan. Keep it moving though.

Its cold but not that cold in my province. -30? Goodness lool. That's beyond cold for me to stand. Where are you from Alberta?

Yey co-defendants are monsters.

What does the subject say?

Somalia's interim president has told officials he wants his interim government to tighten control over the country's politics, economy, and security. As VOA Correspondent Alisha Ryu reports from our East Africa Bureau in Nairobi, President Abdullahi Yusuf reserved his harshest criticisms for international aid groups and non-governmental organizations that he says are doing little to help the Somali people. President Yusuf made the comments in a speech to a government budgetary and development planning session in the Somali town of Baidoa last Tuesday. In a transcript of the speech obtained by Voice of America, President Yusuf said it was time to limit private enterprise and put his transitional federal government in charge of all sectors, including education, social services, trade, and communications. Since the fall of Somalia's last functioning government in 1991, key sectors of the country's economy and social services have been run by private companies and entrepreneurs. He emphasized that government officials are to be involved in any and all activities taking place in Somalia, especially by international aid groups. He also told ministry officials to stop working with U.N. groups and non-governmental organizations that have not coordinated their activities through the interim government. In the speech, Mr. Yusuf repeatedly criticized the U.N.'s World Food Program, accusing the agency of doing nothing to help the Somali people since the country's last functioning government was overthrown by factional leaders nearly 17 years ago. For the past several months, government officials have frequently complained that some aid groups in Somalia were distributing food and other supplies to war-displaced people without the government's permission. Last month, government security forces detained the director of the World Food Program in Somalia for nearly a week, accusing him of giving food to Islamic insurgents because the agency used local mosques instead of government ministries to distribute food aid in the capital Mogadishu and its outskirts. In his speech, the president also criticized the head of U.N. humanitarian operations in Somalia, Eric Laroche, who has expressed alarm about Somalia's deepening humanitarian crisis. President Yusuf complained that during their recent meetings in Baidoa and in the Kenyan capital Nairobi, Laroche only wanted to discuss humanitarian issues and requested better access to some one-and-a-half million Somali civilians thought to be in dire need of assistance. The president said he believed the talks should have focused on Somali politics and on ways to combat the Islamist-led insurgency in Mogadishu, which began nearly a year ago after Mr. Yusuf's internationally recognized-but-weak transitional government took power in Mogadishu from the Islamic Courts Union in an Ethiopia-led military offensive. Some Somalis have expressed hope that the country's newly sworn-in Prime Minister Nur Adde Hassan Hussein will have the experience and the will to begin addressing Somalia's mounting problems. Mr. Hussein, a lawyer by training, is a veteran humanitarian chief and is also a former police colonel. But his predecessor, Ali Mohamed Gedi, stepped down from office last month after a falling out with President Yusuf over control of Somalia's resources and infrastructure. And there are concerns that Mr. Hussein may be pressured to follow Mr. Yusuf's lead or risk being similarly ousted. During the swearing-in ceremony Saturday, the new prime minister promised to work first toward reconciling the government with opposition groups and improving security. The foreign affairs secretary of the exiled Islamic Courts Union, Sherif Hassan tells VOA that reconciliation talks will never take place while Ethiopian troops are still in Somalia. "What we need is someone who can say loudly that Ethiopian troops should withdraw from Somali territory immediately," he said. Ethiopia says it will withdraw its troops only when a full-strength African Union peacekeeping force is in place in Somalia. So far, only Uganda has contributed 1,600 of the 8,000 troops needed. http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-11-26-voa38.cfm

Ladies, Ladies...will you please?

Originally posted by -: It is matter of simple choice. Whoever wants to break away can do so,and whoever wants to stay in the union have the right to do so. I don't see the need for Somalia to impose its will on Somaliland or understand Somaliland's obsession in trying to incorporate SSC into Somaliland. P.S. North your assumption about the people of the States and Canada falls under the same syndrome. Isn't Cayn part of Burco province? Should Somaliland break up Sanaag as well? Is all of Sanaag residents in union with Somalia?

^^^ LOL..Wow.

What do you think?

Haha Naxar and Sheek are supposed to be Countrymen? SMH...Somalis. Wallahi I doubt if we ever come back to one ( I don't know if we were ever one to start of)

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Jumatatu: Very Very very good news...! Professor Ali Mohamed Ghedi is capable of the task and kudos to the president for not selecting a warlord as a PM. What a terrible choice Geedi turned out to be. A budding war criminal he was in 2004. It's unlikely the new dude can do any worse. For one thing, he doesn't have the three years Geedi did and the invasion is fait accompli now. The 2009 elections can be pushed back to 2012 easily.

At least 10 of those points describes the U.S... What do you think? 1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. After 9/11 and through the Iraq war, the flag has been used to promote sometimes twisted ideals and to even sell products. 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. Torture and keeping prisoners for prolonged time with no formal charges. We've all seen the pictures of this horrible mess of Guantanamo. 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. To the government and average American, every muslim is a terrorist and is at fault for 9/11. 4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. Trillions of dollars. Supreme debt. Yep. 5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. 6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. indirect control. bingo. fox news anyone?? 7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. big money spent on national security, bull**** color meters for how likely it is we're gonna get attacked 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations we are almost in a police state. police can and will do anything to get a confession. everyone knows it. blacks especially (no cism). 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. bush's cronies loving their new power 14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

"As you can see, I'm 5'6', about 230lbs, well-proportioned, well-shaped." Lord of have mercy...She's a whale.

Originally posted by Emperor: The media is just getting crazy about this issue, some of the individuals listed do not exist or were unawere that their names is published on some sites.... They should respect the elders, it's the reckless web portals that are pouring petrol into this conflict.... Allow Amuuraha Sahal... Walahi I rather see this left out between the two Admins and the heavy politicians involved in both sides... Two Admins? Remember its Puntland and the "Qatlanders" Btw. Me, Can you explain that in English if you don't mind?

Originally posted by Emperor: The guy is an experienced man and played important roles in the old Somali guard (like Riyaal, if Riyaale delivered for SL, did he? why not him )with fresh new face, let's hope for a better future, the return of the former republic, united Somalia... You guys were saying that about Geedi when he was first elected for the PM postion (Somebody bring those all threads back please). It only takes a little war for power with the old man Yey for you guys to dismiss him.

Philly is averaging 1 murder per day. Detroit (recently named the most dangerous city in the US) New orleans St louis Newark DC What's with the black folks? Africa, North America, Europe..they're just handling everything with the gun.

Sorry about that...here it goes

Broke it down very nicely

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: apparently, your the only ones hiding the fact that Somaliland is a clan entity, let me clear up your confusion. Somalinemo has nothing the fact that these states are based along clan lines, whats against Somalinemo is trying to divide the country. But the secessionist is not a 1 clan entity as much as you say they are. They're after an old British SL colonial borders, regardless what the clans of the people that live in the territory are. Is Puntland that's trying to push them into 1 clan entity like they are(By saying stick to where a certain 1 clan is, and not coming after other clan lands). Puntland is pure 1 clan based while SL is not...If I'm wrong in this prove it to me please.

Originally posted by Qudhac: quote:Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: Sanaag minus northwestern ceerigaabo and ceel afweine district this is hypocracy at its finest these are same people who say SL is one clan state YET they are even dividing small town based on their puntland tribe against their hated "SNM gang" tribe, YET at the same time they are arguing for unity and somaliweyn. Allow coward hanaga dhiging, no matter how much you hide behind every bush and every excuse in the book you cant help but trip yourself up. are you men or mice have the hearts to say what you believe and give this tiring smokescreen a break, you aint fooling no one. Exactly, The reason I asked those question is to show their hypocrisy. The funny thing that really made me "lol" was when duke said the borders of punland is based on "Unity and Somalinimo" Go figure

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^lool. Its based on unity and midnimo and Puntland, and the south are one or the Federal Somali republic. Its the secessionist who are the problem. Puntland is Somalia So there is no evidence to support when people say puntland is 1 clan based state?

I actually googled the puntland map. If the borders are supposed to be based on "Unity" and "Somalinimo" the map should include all of Somalia but the secessionist area correct?

How is Puntland borders even established? What is it based on?