http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/human-trafficking-ring-bust-mn-tn-nov-8-2010 :eek: :mad: :eek: :mad: :eek: I couldnt post their pictures but you can find them on the website above. 4 are women! :confused:

Because when they asked to take the picture of Xaawo Tako - Dhagaxay tuurtay; kamiradii buu jebiyay, warankey tuurtayna sawirqaadihi buu ku dhacay - hence, no picture available. As for Arraweelo, well there were no cameras available when she was supposedly around and more importantly Odey Biiq progenies have ensured that there were no posthumous recognition, films or anything like it about her. And before you ask; Zena the Warrior Princess is neither Somali nor based on fact. She was fiction and figment of white lesbian feminist's imagination now before you ask any other questions - why don't you be kind enough and humour me with your speculative answer on the topic at hand?? [/QUO Oo hada ma saasa kaa daacad ahna? Not only do you NOT have a single Somali female warrior but you're blaming them for the lack of representation? :confused: And yes, I would've settled for XENA even with her lesbian affairs. To humor you, I'd choose to be the first group. Why? Because I don't like the "angelic" look the white guy in the second picture is sporting. At least in the first pic, you don't see the guard unless you look hard enough!

How come there are no women warriors?

^^ Duke's second article explains his reasons for asking to be referred to as 'African' and not just Somali. One should not read too much into it. Anyway, what is this School Board thing? Is it like English School Governors? NG, I don't know what English School Governors do, but here in America, the Board of Education decides where, what and which school money is spent on.

Oh! Is it normal for a 10 year old to have sex in their culture?? Ughh..they should take away the baby for sure. Or the next thing you know she/he will be having babies by the age of 5, just to top his/her mother.

Oh! Minus the brown bag, everything on the right outfit is to die for!!! Lovvvvvve the cardigan!

So he run unopposed? What?

WTF? Did the terrorist send you a memo or something? "only a matter of time" kulahaa? Maybe you should create a network that tortures people for information? Waxaana Somali ka buuxa. Uff!

Who would've thought that Marx was clinically depressed? He seemed so full of life! JB, bal yarka caawi.

Oo hada ma waxaa i leedahay, you never thought a woman could?We want to run our houses and our countries should we choose to.

I love John Stewart. Obama was on his show last week and it was awesome!

Welcome CarmeloBrown.

LOL@the dude being ashamed of being with a Somali girl! Thats a joke right? Anyway, I think the novelty has worn off. Somali women aren't as impossible-to-be-with as they were once. It is possible that she is Somali. But who cares?

Gorgeous girls! Wow! True Somali Beauty.

But Jinni or rather the unseen force is all the rage lately. LoL! Have you seen Paranormal Activity I and the II thats in theaters now? In America, there are muliple T.V. shows on air about Jin. There are also many more movies coming out.

Talexi, Well..there are issues that afford one to stands in the gray areas in life. Then, there are other issues that are black and while. No GREY AREA. So for me, physical violence against women is black and white issue. You're either for it or you are against it. Those who take the I-won't-beat-my-wife-but-if-other husbands-do-it is their-right stand are closet admirers. They might even someday decide to try it. It is not me or the highway. It is logic vs. illogic. As for my edbin, the only person who is allowed to decipline me at this point is Moi. Zayid, Waa adiga dadka kale ku qalqaalineysid in la i beat gareeye, why aren't you on the list? Miyaad cabsatay? Iska daa reer Burco intey goori goor tahay.

Not my natural instinct but other religious interpretations coupled with logic and understanding of the human behavioral patterns.

LOL! More absurd defenses have been used in courts. But the question is will the Jinn be on trial or the judge? Maybe the Jinn should serve some jail time in the body of the judge?

Maybe you think beating up women is funny. Well guess what? I think the court would agree with you.

just to add my little bit. you do realize this ruling was in favour of the women involved in this case and againts the man ? if you read the article a two things will become clear 1. The man was ruled againts becaue he hit his wife in the mouth and left bruises 2. It was also ruled he could not touch his daughter at all. this ruling protects women from ignorant husbands who go too far .. yet every xalimo who has posted in this thread so far has not noticed this aspect Excuse me? We all noticed the absurdity of the ruling for the women. How did they rule in "favor" of the women? :confused: Can the man still hit his wife anywhere else? Can he hit her without leaving visible bruises? The ruling says yes. So how is it in the women's favor? Also, why let him beat his wife but not his daughter? Is it because only HER husband is allowed? The whole thing is f-ed up! :mad: :mad: When you say women are being protected of "ignorant husbands who go too far", then you are for beating as long as the husband "doesnt go too far"? What's too far? Is bunching her in the stomach too far? What about kicking her a couple of times?Is chocking her too far as long as it doesnt leave marks? Can he beat her with a stick? I mean if she is dressed it won't leave a mark right? Can he pit her against the wall sometimes?

I understand where you are coming from. What I'm against is the whole "they-don't-know-better" argument. That very thought victimizes people more. Of course they know better! Ask any woman you know in group B if she thinks the way society treats women is fair. Ask anyone of them if beating hurts or helps marriages. They'll of course say NO! They will also continue advising battered women to go back to their homes; they'll teach and treat their little girls as domestic servants; they'll continue to make excuses for their husband's unfair actions; and they'll uphold million and one other ugly and unfair practices in the community. Abaayo all throughout history, there were women who weren't satisfied with the status quo. There were women whose realization that certain practices in their culture puts them in a disadvantage position brought about real change. What's holding kuwaan xayawaanka iska dhigay xataa ayagoo qurbahan joogo oo awoodo inay shaqaystaan, wax bartaan, ciriirigana ka baxaan? Soo kuwaan is dhaadhamayo ma aha? Marka, I don't feel sorry for them. The women in group B want and fight for the status they have which is the same very reason why they would brand you and I or any other women who disagree with them.

Finally when you say that someone 'deserves' a beating for any reason don't you have some thing in common with the wife beaters since they also think that she 'deserves' the beating. NO WOMAN and I repeat NO WOMAN deserves a beating and that is their God given right which neither you nor the wife beaters can take away from them. Ok. Let me get this correctly. It seems to me that you misunderstood what I wrote. I didnt say women who get beaten deserve the beating. There are two types of women(am I crazy or have I been making this distinction clear in all my posts? Nope I am not crazy; I have made it clear in EVERY single post): Type I: The abused woman who for whatever reason(family history, financial circumstances, Legal issues such getting her children taken away if she leaves, fear of dying if she leaves, cultural pressure such as being shunned by the family, having no where to go etc)stays and is caught up in this cycle BUT knows deep down that she will get out some day. Type II: F-ed up morons who refuse to use their God given brain and decided that WHATEVER the men at the Masjid, Church, Cult leader, Husband, Father... says is the truth and only TRUTH. Women who ACCEPT being beaten, humiliated, tossed around, cheated on, 'deciplined' as their husband's right. This type of woman I don't feel sorry for, not even a bit. AND they deserve EVERY misfortune that comes their way. They're the same very women who support the enslavement, torture and beating of OTHER women because they put men on a pedastel and because they uphold and enforce the customs :eek:

1. I don't believe in its validity because there are other culimas who arrived at different conclusions than the avarage wife beater arrives. I don't need to be an expert; there are other learned people out there whom I agree with more. 2. If a person truly believes get beaten silly will make them a better Muslim, then I say let's make the suffering daily. Why not make it a hello conjuction? NG, Are you even reading what I'm writing? I don't pity them nor will I speak for the ones who are satisfied with the ruling.

NG, What are you talking about? Maybe a little slap upside the head will make this cyber discussion more friendly? Let me try to make myself clear: 1. I reject that specific interpretation that the court used because I don't believe in its validity. 2. I can understand why the MEN might want to push for beating, but ANY woman who is satisfied with the court's ruling DESERVES to be beaten and she will be beaten. 3. I support those who are caught up in a cycle of abuse because they have no way out or can't get but I don't support or feel sorry for ANY women who believes getting beaten will make her a better wife or a better Muslim. Zayid, I see you want to start a war with reer Burco.Are you calling them wife beaters?

LOL! I know you'll hate my response. If a person honestly believes that ilaahy subxaanahu watacaalaa waxaa raali galiso to have someone beat you, then that person deserves the beating. I'm not avoiding the religious element of it. The ayah in Nisa that all wadaado recite evidence specially the 'wadribuuhuna' part has be interpreted differently by different culima. Also, the whole issue of beating goes against the rights Islam gave women when they didnt have any. I don't want to get into different interpretation because I want to look at this issue from logical point of view. How does getting beat up make you a better Muslim then? Do you get more ajar? Does it make you more submissive? Does it make you more righteous? Is it because you're saving the marriage which a desired thing in Islam? The answer is obviously NO. Even emotional abuse cause rift and resentment and the marriage eventually dissolves. How then?