Apophis;893534 wrote: ^ you tell me

LOOL what the hell is this guy on about

Apophis;893491 wrote: I wish to withdraw and to use my votes for Oba Apo you are the soler of the year.

LOOOOOOOOL wth who contacted admin? I was kidding walahi when i posted in this thread :D

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why isn't i included war looma dhaamo.

Areey iga mooti waaye sheekada markaas.

Islamaha vulnerable ka ah laftarkoda ameey Cougars yihiin hade. Islamaha fiican aan taaganahay anigu iyaagaba cashar ku barayo.

:D your out of business but money talks though

Acuudka kani waa iska booteyhaa mugoow

war i know somalis well this aint about kenya honestly the reer gedo people feel side-lined otherwise why aren't they talking about the ethiopians?

Danjiraha Somaliya u fadhiya Qaaradda Yurub ahna wakiilka Soomaaliya ee Dalka Talyaaniga Nuur Xasan Xuseen (Cade) ayaa markii ugu horeysay ka hadlay warar warbaahinta qaar sheegayeen inuu kireystay safaarada Somalia ku leedahay talyaaniga. Nuur Cade waxa uu sheegay in si qaldan wararka loo sheegay hayeeshee ay run tahay in la kireeyey lacagta kasoo xarootana ay dawlada leedahay. Waxa uu sheegay Danjiruhu in shirkad talyaaniga laga leeyahay heshiis kula galeen in dib u dhis ku sameyso safaarada Somaliya ku leedahay Magaalada Roma taasi oo bur bursan. “Hadalka sida loo dhigayo maahan ,waa run waan kireeyey saafaradda Soomaalia ee Talyaaniga laakiin waxaan idiin sheegayaa in lacagta kasoo baxda in dawladu qaadaneyso ayuu cod dheer ku sheegay Nuur Cade”. Danjire Nuur Xasan Xuseen ayaa sheegay in ilaa shan guri Somalia ku leedahay Dalka Talyaaniga,isagoo sheegay war xumo tashiil hadii la rabin maxaa loo kireyn waayey guryahaas kale ayuu yiri Nuur Cade. Wakiilka Soomaaliya u fadhiya Qaaradda yurub Nuur Cade ayaa waxa uu sheegay in shirkada lacag laga qaadi doono kiro ahaan isagoo tibaaxay in dib u dayactir in lagu sameyn doono safaaradda lacagtana ay dawlada jeebkeeda ku dhici doonto. “Niyadeyda alle ayaa og ana waan isku kalsoonahay,lacagta shirkadaasi laga qaado ee kirada ah yaan loo maleyn in jeebka nuur cade ku dhaceyso ee dawlada ayaa qaadan doonta ayuu yiri Nuur Cade”. Hadalkaan kasoo baxay wakiilka Somaliya ufadhiya Qaarada Yurub ahna safiirka Saafarada Somaliya ujooga Dalka Talyaaniga Nuur Xasan Xuseen (Cade) ayaa kusoo beegmaya xilli isbuucaan warbaahinta Talyaaniga hadal hayeen kireynta safaarada Somaliya kuleedahay Dalkaasi.

bacaaaaaac written by known unuka haters aka shabelle

:D

Baashi;893211 wrote: The reason is the machinery of the state is not in place yet. There are no state per se and the one in the works is missing the shaft, bearings and the fuel. Once the government gets its groove on then you will see some of the ducks getting in a row. You may recall when Inna Yussuf was the resident of Villa Somalia, he used to get a percentage of Bossasso port revenue. His predecessor Sherrif didn't had the luxury to count on that loyalty and support. Reason being he hailed from opposing clan. The Somali civil war has not been conclusively settled yet you see. Federal Government will be in a position to collect tax revenue when the laws that govern the relationship of the center-prephery are defined, agency that are charged to cary out tax collection is put in place and the roles of district, counties, and towns in both provincial and federal level are clarified. Awoowe we are on the way and insha Allah we'll get there. Just be realistic and expect couple of pumpss on the road. Remember we are in for a great political experimentation the likes of which Somalis have never seen before. It will certainly be trail and error, fumble, pick yourself up and dust off and get back to the saddle kind of thing. All these terms thrown around mean something -- regional autonomy, central state, Republic, union, federalism, etc. Each of these roads will lead you to Benadir but may take different road. Rageedi well said.

Che -Guevara;893214 wrote: And mind you the reason Puntland wants the Constitution adopted and implemented is to legally define and setup the framework that will address the issue of taxation. Without such framework, Puntland wouldn't simply get lump sum of money from its treasury and hand over to the Government without any qualification or terms of reference. You need a system in place. The best the Government could do now is to setup a system in Benadir and if successful, use it benchmark. In the meantime, the Government should start talking to regional administrations and come to political understanding. Well said thanks for clearing up this

Che -Guevara;893207 wrote: Oba..As far as Puntland is concerned, the Government is only in name, a fact accentuated by the Government's inability to exert itself beyond Xamar. What's more, the Government has no strategy or framework to engage the various regions and setup a formula to collect taxes and distribute the revenues equitably. It's really simplistic to ask why shouldn't Puntland pay taxes considering the Government made no effort to engage it and has no strategy at all. +1. I support that the government should make up a strategy to engage those regions a bit more.

Jacpher;893206 wrote: Oba: Once the government starts changing or making a little difference in people's lives outside of its seat, it will have the moral argument to ask for support from people it doesn't do any good or harm. makes sense.

Che -Guevara;893203 wrote: Are you sure? From what I understand the government only collects fees from the ports and I don't think it has the capacity to collect anything from suuqa Bakaraaha or Bacaad. It's worth noting that government doesn't contribute anything to Puntland and has no sovereignty over it, realistically speaking, I don't would expect anything from Puntland. So whats the point of having a government markaas?

I dont understand this federal BS so basically all the States is going to be like puntland miyaa, own military,police, the taxes goes only to states. While Mogadishu is going to be the capital oo maamul goboleed aheen, basically they gonna pay taxes and stuff miyaa? If i understood it in the right way?

well the the government started expanding from Mogadishu but i dont see why puntland is a part of the FG they aint contributing anything to the FG yet they get 1/3 of everything that gets donated to somalia in the name of somalia, doesn't make sense jacpherow? Keyga aniga baa cunayo kaagana waa kula cunaa miyeesan xaqdaro aheen

Abwaan;893196 wrote: Oba, are you going to suggest that Mogadishu should refuse the tax? No Reer Mogadishu makes me proud they are the only people in somalia contributing something to their FG.

Jacpher;893194 wrote: So you are only interested why Bandar Bayla, Burtinle, and Baargaal aren't paying up folks in Bakaaraha. No I aint and thats not the point im just wondering how puntland can be a part of the federal government when they aint even paying taxes basically only the people in Mog is funding the government and thats a great amount of injustice, why shouldn't the people of puntland pay taxes to the FG?

the government tax bakaara and Suuqbacaad, the port and the airport.

Beledweyne,Baydhabo,,badhaadhe,kismaayo,balcad,afgooye and Buurdhuubo are places that recently got liberated didn't think it was fair to include them in the list, bardheere,baraawe is under al shabaab right now.