general Duke ....... who are you are send by ethiopian seceret agent or something, this guys fevors how xaamar was before compare to today how ironic, we truely seen your tribel side :eek: :eek: baseless argument and fabricate lies againts icu and waadado's , whats making you unger i dont know, be happy for your somali brother . dont talk for people that dont want you talk for them , This group killed over 1000 people in Mogadishu in their fights with the warlords, innocent people. xaasaan dahir aweys killed 1000

GENERAL DUKE , TELL US SOMETHING NEW MEN, SHABELL IYO INDHAACAD AA KUU WAALAATEE , ADDER ABDULAHI YUSUF TELL US HIS PROGRESS

WHAT DAHIR AWEYS IS PLANING FOR SOMALI IS BEYOND OUR IMAGINATION . THE VISION HE HAS NOT COMPAREABLE TO ANYOTHER SOMALI LEADER TODAY, WHO CAN GIVE SUCH BEAUTIFULL INTERVIEW THAT REFLECT'S ON THE WHOLE SOMALI REGION!!!!!!! WHY OPPOSE THIS GUY. INSTEAD CALLIN NAMES AND ETC HE PRAISES ABDULAHI YUSUF CONSIDERES HIM HIS PRESIDENT AND ASKIN HIM RULE SOMALIA WITH SHARI ALLAH , WHATS SO HARD ABOUT THAT. Asharq Al-Awsat: How did Kismayu fall? Aweys: We entered Kismayu as peacemakers, not as fighters. We were afraid the city might become a landing point for the African peacekeeping forces that the transitional authority is trying to bring to Somalia with support from Ethiopia. We had to move and deal a preemptive blow in order to deprive all parties from the opportunity to use Kismayu as an advanced base for dropping and deploying any African forces. This is our natural right since we categorically oppose the authority's position in this regard. Asharq Al-Awsat: The Somali Government accused you of breaching the peace treaty and the agreements reached in Sudan; how would you respond to that? Aweys: The government has nothing to do with what happened in Kismayu and it is none of its business because the city was never under its control. The government can only speak about its headquarters in Bidawah because it is currently the only city in Somalia where the government has a presence and is in control. Our presence in Kismayu is extremely normal and is not surprising. Asharq Al-Awsat: Why did you not go to the city and personally oversee its handover as was planned? Aweys: I had an urgent medical crisis that prevented me from heading there, but I will visit the city when God blesses me with good health. There is nothing to stop me from going there, for it is a Somali city and its residents are our brothers, some of them fought alongside our forces against the warlords and the armed militia commanders we expelled from the capital Mogadishu. Asharq Al-Awsat: What will become of Defense Minister Adan Shir? Do you plan on tracking him down? Aweys: All I know is that he fled the city before our forces entered it. This man knew we were coming but he went against us and eventually claimed that we were extremists and criticized us. He knew that his guards were part of our organization. This is not what we expected of him; it seems Transitional President Abdullah Yusuf succeeded in luring him with power and its fake prestige, and convinced him to work with him and assume the defense portfolio, but he is not fully aware of the requirements of this post. At the end of the day, the defense minister fled Kimsayu after he was sure that our forces had the upper hand there. Asharq Al-Awsat: You now control nearly 70 percent of Somalia, do you feel that you are in reality the strongest man in the country? Aweys: I know very well what you are getting at, and the answer is no, I do not think that way. On the contrary, I always see myself as the poorest, weakest, and simplest of all Somalis had it not been for the grace of God. My political platform will not change and I will not think of myself as a leader or president. I am serving my people from my position and I am not at all interested in power nor do I like it. Asharq Al-Awsat: Even though the city was (peacefully) handed over, your militia killed at least two people on its first day there. Aweys: I have not heard of this, but what I do know is that our forces were forced to fire in the air to disperse some angry protestors whom we had deprived of Qat (a narcotic drug) after the plane transporting it failed to land in the city as usual. Asharq Al-Awsat: Do you plan on assaulting Baidoa, the transitional authority's stronghold? Aweys: No, there is a treaty between us, one that we reached under the sponsorship of the Arab League and Sudanese Government. We will honor this treaty, which forbids each party from attacking the other, and we will not be the ones to initiate an attack on the city under any circumstance. Besides, why would we attack it so long as there is security, stability, and a government there? We entered Kismayu without fighting and upon the invitation of its residents. We were never invaders and we never sought to occupy lands here or there. All we care about is how to achieve security. Asharq Al-Awsat: But you had said earlier that you would not attack Kismayu. Aweys: Yes, that is true, and we kept our word, but the reality is that this city was not safe enough and its residents asked us to come help them. When our forces moved, everyone there knew what we were going to do. We did not fight and we did not take off from Mogadishu with the aim of occupying the city -- we only wanted to help the residents contain matters and avoid a state of lawlessness. Asharq Al-Awsat: Does this mean that you would do the same if asked by the residents of Baidoa? Aweys: No, this is not how it is. Matters were on the verge of anarchy in Kismayu and we had to intervene quickly and resolve matters there for the sake of the residents. As for Baidoa, there is a government and an authority there that can guarantee security and that have an interest in doing so. We will not, therefore, go there. Asharq Al-Awsat: But you just said that you will fight the Ethiopian forces there. Aweys: Yes, we will do so because they are invading forces that came without the Somali people's consent. We will confront them. We do not seek war, but if the Ethiopians force our hand, we will fight and we will not hesitate to defend our lands and our country's sovereignty. Asharq Al-Awsat: Excuse me, but these forces came primarily to protect the transitional authority? Aweys: Transitional President Abdullah Yusuf would be mistaken to think that these invading forces can guarantee his security and that of his government. We believe he no longer capable of an independent political decision in light of the presence of these forces, in other words, the transitional authority in Baidoa has entirely transformed into a toy in the hands of Ethiopian authorities, which have imposed their control on it. Asharq Al-Awsat: Okay, and the solution is? Aweys: We advise the president and the members of parliament and government to leave Baidoa because it is no longer safe for them and to come to us in the capital Mogadishu unaccompanied by any forces. We will protect them and relinquish power to them provided they establish an Islamic state. Asharq Al-Awsat: But the transitional president rejects your Islamic project and will not agree to this. Aweys: How can he refuse to be the president of an Islamic state that rules by God's law and His prophet's tradition? How can he agree to be a hostage in the hands of the Ethiopians, who we think have become the real decision makers in Baidoa after the transitional authority was completely marginalized? Asharq Al-Awsat: Will the president be safe in Mogadishu? Aweys: Yes he will. We publicly and officially vow that they will not be harmed. He is our president and we have the right to advise him because the decision is no longer his, and it unfortunate that he would allow himself to play this role, which contradicts with the interests of the Somali people. Asharq Al-Awsat: Will there not be attempts on his life in the capital? Aweys: No there will not, and we believe that we can, with the help of God, guarantee his personal security and that of all those currently serving in the authority, government agencies, and parliament. The attempt on his life was made in Baidoa, his stronghold, and not in Mogadishu. Asharq Al-Awsat: You have been unofficially accused of involvement in that attempt? Aweys: This is not true, we had nothing to do with it, and we expressed our sorrow over this deterioration in security. We believe the president should be wise and understand that we are not Somalia's enemies, but only did our duty to protect the people's lives and property in light of the central government's absence. What we are doing is basically the government's job and part of its duties, but because it is absent, we must fill in for it temporarily and take matters into our own hands. The government's continued presence in Baidoa will not solve the problem, but will further complicate it. Asharq Al-Awsat: Are you still committed to the peace negotiations despite this all? Aweys: Yes we are, and we will attend the third round as scheduled. We feel it is important that dialogue between the Courts and the authority continue because the alternative will not be in the interest of our people. Again, we do not seek military confrontation with anyone, but if we have to, we will do so without hesitation. Asharq Al-Awsat: I understand you are in the process of restructuring the Islamic Courts? Aweys: Who told you this? We are still preparing for this organizational process because we believe it would be wrong for the Islamic Courts' structure to continue to be based on tribal considerations. This has to be changed. We need to have special frameworks that rise above the nature of Somalia's problems - problems in which tribalism has played a dangerous and unfortunate role. We want to establish a sort of government body without having to endure bureaucracy and routine, and want the circle of Shura (consultation in Islam) to widen and for the people to be asked their opinion in all matters concerning them. We must have a different and better system that rises to the level of future challenges, and we must work on forming a local government in the capital Mogadishu to run its affairs. We have not finished discussing these matters. Asharq Al-Awsat: Will you retain your post as leader of the Islamic Courts, or will you turn into a spiritual mentor and stay clear of executive matters? Aweys: I have never considered this - it depends on what the Courts' leaders decide in their deliberations. Asharq Al-Awsat: You talk as if you will be leaving your position soon. Aweys: Laughing, I do not know, I am in the service of the Courts, and as you know, I was appointed in absentia and they went to lengths in convincing me to assume this post. Asharq Al-Awsat: Are you planning an early retirement, before the Courts seize control of all of Somalia? Aweys: I do not wish to go into these details or to comment on them; the only thing I want to emphasize is that I am here to serve my people and the Islamic Courts regardless of any other considerations. Asharq Al-Awsat: Is there anything new regarding your indirect contacts with the US Administration? Aweys: No, we hope the Americans treat us justly, stop trying to interfere in our affairs, and understand that we did what we did simply for the sake of our people's interests and not for the sake of seizing power. Asharq Al-Awsat: They met with your deputy Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmad in Kenya and called him a reformist and you an extremist, do you not fear attempts to drive a wedge between you two? Aweys: Laughing, I know what you are getting at, but Sheikh Sharif is not the man America thinks he is. I have complete trust in him, and he has informed me of what has happened. We are aware of this American game - this is a wrong tactic that will not work with us at all. Asharq Al-Awsat: Have there been any breakthroughs in your Arab relations? Aweys: We hope there will be. As you know, Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmad recently met with the amir of Qatar, and we were in Djibouti not long ago. We hope the sisterly Arab countries give themselves a chance to hear us out. We ask all Arabs not to deal with us or with Somalia at a political level, but to look towards the areas in which they can help the Somali people, areas like education and health, and to implement projects that can link Somalis to their large Arab nation. We believe Somalia will remain a strongpoint for Arabs and their impenetrable dam in east Africa and the African Horn area. The member countries of the Arab League should open their eyes to this truth and deal with us accordingly. Asharq Al-Awsat: Did you issue a fatwa ordering the Vatican Pope's murder for what he said about Islam? Aweys: No, none of the Islamic Courts' leaders said anything of the sort, and we are not about to sanction his killing, but I feel that the Pope did not speak well about Islam and was wrong. We are however optimistic about what he said, because in the days of the first Muslims, when people spoke ill of the prophet (may God's peace and prayers be upon him), it was a sign that the Muslims would defeat them and conquer their lands. Asharq Al-Awsat: Does this mean that Muslims will invade the Vatican for example? Aweys: Laughing, no, it is not like that, but I am optimistic Muslims will triumph, and you will soon see that I am right

who you calling warlord sheeq shaarif, Dahir aweys and indhacad istaafurlaha, and abulahi xaabash and in caadiit, Abdi qeerdiid etc are heroes aka offical's eh, what legedmized them let me guess Ethiopia and your adder abdulahi xaabaash since his president. i wanna clear something do you see any warlord in ICu or all *** clan leaders are warlord's :eek: , Why wasen't Indhacaad and dahir aweys,sheeq shreef ,abu mansoor, sheeq Turki not invited in kenya peace talks as warlord. Were did sheeq abu mansoor, sheeq shariif, dahir awey occupy before icu was established please tell me who did they obress and who are they obressing today. They made xaamar peace paved it , clean it , gave the people back there power , kick people out land that they do not own , brough kitab allah words to south somalia is that why you call them warlord . This how low qabil made us we warship people who are working for there interest , for example dahir riyal the men obressing the people jus to seperat people and cad muse drawing the green line taking as back to the 1990's . Icu will come to those regions when people ask them, if every thing was good in puntland and somaliland then the offical should not worrry about uprise true or falls. Its hard to argue with someone who is arguing for abulahi xaabash,caadiid,qanyar,abdi qabiid and the rest warlord [ September 30, 2006, 15:31: Message edited by: Libaax-Sankataabte ]

INDEED , Sad news for those that hate somalia and sharia'allah. what's excuse is mr duke can come with up . lets face the fact icu is only true party that can re unite somalia , TNG IS dead Punch looser in Baidhawa, do you think ,abdulahi xaabaash,ina caydiid aka Alcholic, DAhir riyaal maaskiinkaa, these can not challange icu who are made by the people. the whole somaliland administration are going cracy , beating up waadaado and shit shiping them to Ethiopia istaafuralla what happend to I****tribe wallahi. wallahi i never new a somali would do that in my life istaafurallah who has seen clip, asking poor waadaad some ridiculs questions they sounded like Gaalo wallahi, i wish that clip is fake wallahi thats puting our dignity so low working for xaabaasho istaafurllaha. caad musa kaan waa alcoholic or something , latest development this guy is seperating the somali people ..lololol waaaxas waa laagaa taakee. in xaamar you will find ****** and ***** business mens and civilians , jus because he missid the civial war sitting in canada dont mean he has to turn time around.

ali mahadi is a sor looser ,lisnt there is law and order in xaamer, basical no weapons allowed accept the Icu once done no but. can ali mahadi cry his weapone in hargess the answer is no , face fact pple . reasone why indhcade is allowed to have technicals is because he is security chief understand that done. is not clan thing reasone why he was stoped for example , jama furax who belongs to same clan has dahir aweys was stop on outskirt of xammer and told leave his technical and board a bus to xaamer ali mahadi is lucky he is allowed to stay in city considering his strong support for the warlords. i dont understand why people from puntland so interest in xammar polictics stay focus in bossaso. stop watching south side to hard you might end up blind . is funny seing people hiding there clan color in this forum. why do we need people from puntland to tell us who is better ali mahadi or indhcade because who ever we choose you would end having excuse put him down, there is no reasoning apease any one when comes to interst of icu,

mr duke........you do not need 8 thoushand army personals to train somali army, i understand Generals etc, but not soldiers doin training :confused: :confused: .today the only stable party and the strongest in somaia is icu with clear vision and understandable agenda's. who would the AU troops defend first of all , incadiid and geedi,abdula yusuf and rest goofs. there so such thing as TFG is done long time ago , lisnt this TFG was handpicked by the warlord thats why they are not making any progress wallahi,they even did not build one adminstration in any region, they had hard time seting up adminstration for baydhawa. abdulahi yusuf and the rest goofs would be lucky if they can manage to run smallest somali city, lets face the fact. ICu is not made of one clan for exampla sheeq Turki and his milities that took part in jihaad are not members of traditional moqadishu clans,