This not a good news , Africans are goin wild considering whats happening to the somali citizens in south africa . this is not a a good news for somali who own business stretching from South Africa to Kenya .

Takko sxb . Other method or strategies can be used to bring peace and stability in Xaamar For example if those men’s are insisting keeping city hostage Then TFG can just cut city off and alienate them- Make sure nothing comes in or out . Patient what’s need, ever since TFG came in to Mogadishu they got carried away? TFG is simply falling into their Trap. The art of politics is more powerful then Guns and the shelling. Shelling city will do damage to the TFG.

Somalia does not have time for another reconciliation meeting outside Somalia, The last one took 2 years and the outcome is being opposed - what makes you think another TFG will be accepted. Adow is well eduacated men , therefore for sake of Somalinimo and civilians he should Waite till the TFG mandate is done and start his own party and show up for election ., After all Icu was formed to bring peace and stability . Forming administration by punch of wann be’s politicians that where left out in TFG process or looking for position are not going to bring Somalia peace and stability. They should not jeopardize the chance Somalia has today . .

Nice work done by the TFG, they should stick to Nation building rather fighting and killing all the time -Somalia had enough .

Saxiib the TFG has s full of weirdoes from every tribe. Muse sudi , Salad jeel , both are insignificant when comes to Mogadishu current time . Things have change dramatically there are new players representing the abgala family in the ground . Those that are still meeting in hotels are insignificant. Muse sudi and max’ed dhere are trying to get back the influence they had with help of tigreyn troops which will not work. They gathered punch of their supporters , truly these are same players that were striped by Icu for their evil actions – it does not sound like they learned a lesson – their confidence is being brought back by the TFG administration. TFG must deal with resident of xaamar fairly if they want peace and stability and stop trying to divide city .

Salad jeel should be fired for his sick disgusting idea’s and plan . What his doing is bringing back old wound that’s been heeled . Salad Jeel don’t represent the the ****** tribe , he spoke on behave of the TFG and his opinion . This was meeting to boost ****** tribe support for TFG , Salad jeel got carried away with his useless plan and opinion which are not needed . ********** will never support mascara of there brothers closes qabil to them that they share land , Business and family ties . Salad jeel don’t even have any support in Muqadishu accept his subbbclan which he shares with Max’ed dheera , Geedi and ali Mahadi. TFG failed to secure Muqadishu with troop it currently has plus the foreign force, Now they turning on the Qabil card which is sad and sick. These are same players that where silenced during ICU rule in Mogadishu , if they had any influence they would have had say in the public eyes instead of being cheerleaders . [ April 10, 2007, 03:56 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

$$$$ is nothing if not spend wise, the value 100 million will be assessed on how well the money is spend. The TFG is not known for good will or assisting the citizen , which they need improve if they want to get the population support , for example why are they not helping the people fleeing the fights or any other humanitarian work . I hope they use this fund in positive way that benefit the Somali citizen and not to purchase arms.

Xiinfan very good point indeed , when /how / where will somalis find a group/party /faction that have same common ideological , goals , plan , vision to liberat somalia from turmoil that we are in today , without being labeld as qabil motive . removing the Ethopian troops will be easy if first somali people unite and establish administration. somalis are holding themself hostage for the purpose of greed and pride .

This recents events will not help the average somalian livin in somali , those mens that are meeting in Asmera should not plan any rebel attacks againts the TFG which will only shed more somali blood . There are other options to deal the TFG and alternatives . somalia has seen enough fighting , I realy dont think sheeq sharif would aprove more blood shed to oust the TFG . Somalia should not be held hostage between Ethopia and Eritrea period . I hope , Sheeq sharif , Geedi , Abdulahi Yusuf , and Dahir Awes see the great danger facing the somali nation and its people and put their different aside and work togather . For sake of the civilian the TFG and Icu must come up with deal to work to togather just like the Plastine authority and Hamas did .

General 500 elders is not small i do acknowledge where is pictures sxb . and elso those area are still closed till today you call xaamar and find out . tension is high tfg currently is not factore in Muqadhishu , its tigreyn troops that are doin fighing and negotiating and etc , which is sad . No gun men from guricell would be allowed to launch attack from predominated abgala area sxb , Muqadishu residents know each other better then that . Geedi is only being support by his subsubsub clan sxb which he and salad jeel , ali mahadi , maxamed dheera belong to -thats why he can not leave the district of karan. Macalin Xaashi oo wareeysigiisa uu aad u dheeraa wuxuu ku hanjabay inaysan Soomaaliya ka hergeli doonin dowlad cilmaaniya balse fikirku uu yahay in ugu dambeeyn dalka laga hergeliyo dowlad Islaamiya, isagoo dhinaca kalana sheegay in ciidamo isaga taabacsan ay la wareegeen Xerooyinka Ceelcirfiid iyo Maslax. http://simbanews.com/news/News%2002%20Apr%203.htm lisnt to the men . also another abgala leader fighing in towfiq is Kaba kuTukade , who his force know control Towfiiq district

If geedy and Afrax had the full support of abgala tribe , trust me he would not have to hide behind tigreyn troops . Furthermore the most intensive fighs are taken place north muqadhisu last couple of days , the shelling suuq bacad second largest market in xaamar run by abgale familly . From siinaay to suuq bacad, Towfiq , Jiidka fagax till hotel ramadan - i realy dont know if you are familiar with these street , but they are locked by abgala milities fighing the Tigreyn troops which is fact just call Muqadishu . it will be wise for the TFG to put down the fire thats about to inflam in xaamar . Icu elements are also taking advantage to strike back at the Tigreyn . If geedi was that popular that 500 turned to listn to him :rolleyes: :eek: he should come out to hold prostest , why isen there demostration supporting the TFG .

This recents events will not help the average somalian livin in somali , those mens that are meeting in Asmera should not plan any rebel attacks againts the TFG which will only shed more somali blood . There are other options to deal the TFG and alternatives . somalia has seen enough fighting , I realy dont think sheeq sharif would aprove more blood shed to oust the TFG . Somalia should not be held hostage between Ethopia and Eritrea period . I hope , Sheeq sharif , Geedi , Abdulahi Yusuf , and Dahir Awes see the great danger facing the somali nation and its people and put their different aside and work togather . For sake of the civilian the TFG and Icu must come up with deal to work to togather just like the Plastine authority and Hamas did .

Sheeq sharif should not talk to Jr aidiid nor should he negotiat with him . Aidiid Jr no longer has any power or influence ,furthernmore this is same stooge that was calling maxkamadah a terrorist movement , and also whent so far to praise the Tigreyn that he stated somalia should join Ethopia. this will make somalia issue more complicated then it is today . we have high hopes on sheeq sharif morlity and vision for somalia .

Thierry its easier said then done , Pressure on Muqadishu clans from the outside world and within somalia is high . The warlords where being funded by Ethopia heavly to continue the chaos in somalia , warlords did not represent there clans but Melez senawi . when the warlords where defeated , Just like noble sheeq sharif stated that Tigrey would come to fight and show their face and- when they are defeat or stoped - big brother America will step up . when a civil war accures the most fighing will hit the capital and surrounding areas thats is nature of civil war . This issue is for all somalians to solve it not just hawye tribe .

Taako men sxb , Gacmodheere , Geedi , abdulahi Yusuf are all the same to me , i do believe if Puntland where to host icu or oppose TFG abdulahi likewise would have used Tigreyn force , abdulahi made xaamar a battle zone thats not need at all , business has stop , Tigreyans are shelling hospitals - also using hospitals as base to hide . TFG is not in control of the Tigreyn force , Tigreyns generals are the new warlords in Muqadishu , What kind of army attacks then retreats to there base basical hit and run attacks . Why are they not potroling the streets intead of shelling the city from there bases , who are there enemy . aint no one goin to listn abdulahi after what has happen in muqadishu last two weeks , Abdulahi Yusuf and TFG are responsible for the masscar of 300 rer muqadishu residents and th Collateral damage done to the city including , houses and market areas .

Sergeant Sakhar ^^^^ Muqadishu is not divided at all , Ali mahadi tribe also took part of the fight againts Tigrey troops. For example heavy fighing took place in Towfiiq , jidka fagax, Siinaay , suuq bacad second largest market in xamaar run by the abgala tribe was heavly bombed the entire 4days . all these district are North of Muqadishu . Odayaash hawye are not againts TFG nor are they questning TFG legitimacy , There demand is not shady one , all they asking for is national disarment where by Puntland has to also disarm thats all sxbyaal . Col Fartag and Barre hiirle set up camps and trained about 2 thousand mens from their subclans and named them national army , is that fair and honest disarment . How dare you ask Hawye to disarm then ????????????????????????????????????????

i dont realy understand where Abdulahi Yusuf and there supporters are getting the idea that xaamar is divide into two clan , salad jeel and rest of stooge do not represent clans of xaamar , where if they did they would have enjoyed comfortable stay in xaamar and not hide behind the ethopians . Salad jeel came into Moqadishu as a cheerleader behind Tigreyen Troops , Nabadoon Cosobow is insignificant nabadon sxbyaal . his own tribes mens , cousins and etc are in the fron fighting , how dare his makes such coward statment . Abdulahi will not bring the people of xammar to their knees with help of Tigrey troops , Muqadishu will teach tigreyans a lesson by any means neccassry the new Stalingrad of Africa wait - and - see

captain xalan news coming from xammar stating abdulahi is wanted and his hiding in shibis and being pertect by ali mahadi . sxb you call leveling the city from north to south a goverment drill :mad: :mad: sxb Tigrey cowards are hiding in the madaxtoyada leveling city , its not drill but genocide , this not idaal or dinsor sxb welcome muqadishu sxb You came uninvited and you will leave with shame .

Dadkaan geeriyooday oo isku qoys ka soo jeeda ayaaa waxa ay doonayeen in ay ka qaxaan halkaasi, oo ay u guuraan goob kale oo ka amaan badan, laakiin ma aysan u suurto galin oo madfac ayaa la dul habsaday. Dadka dhintay ayaa la waayay qeybo ka mid ah jirkooda, hasa ahaatee dadkaasi mid ka mid ah ayaa la sheegay in gabi ahaanba la waayay, iyadoo goobtii ay fadhiday lagu arkay dhiig oo kaliya. INAA LILAAHI WA INAA ILEEYHI RAAJICUUN !!!!!!!

Mogadishu 30, March.07 ( Sh.M.Network) Dagaalkii ka socday magaalada Muqdisho ee u dhaxeeyay ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kooxaha ka soo horjeeda ayaa sii kululaaday, iyadoo 4 ruux oo rayid ah ay ku geeriyootay ka dib markii uu ka dul dhacay madfac agagaarka Xarunta Xisbiga guri ay daganaayeen sida ay shabelle u sheegeen dad goobjoogayaal ah. Dadkaan geeriyooday oo isku qoys ka soo jeeda ayaaa waxa ay doonayeen in ay ka qaxaan halkaasi, oo ay u guuraan goob kale oo ka amaan badan, laakiin ma aysan u suurto galin oo madfac ayaa la dul habsaday. Dadka dhintay ayaa la waayay qeybo ka mid ah jirkooda, hasa ahaatee dadkaasi mid ka mid ah ayaa la sheegay in gabi ahaanba la waayay, iyadoo goobtii ay fadhiday lagu arkay dhiig oo kaliya. Dagaalkaan oo ahaa mid aad u qaraar galayna maalintii labaad ayaa galaaftay nolosha dad kor u dhaafaya 40 ruuxhalka dad ka badan 100 kalena la dhigay isbitaalada Muqdisho. Madaafiic laga ridayo xarunta madaxtooyada ayaa ku dhaceeysay xaafadaha Towfiiq, Huriwaa suuq Bacaad iyo Xamar Bile, iyadoo dad badan oo rayid ah ay ku dhinteen oo qaarkood hilbahooda la waayay. Dagaalkaan oo ah mid aad u culus ayaa la isku adeegsanayaa wali hubka waaweyn iyo waliba madaafiicda BM ka oo ay isticmaalayaan ciidamada Ethiopia. Sidoo kale dagaalo qaraar ayaa waxa ay ka dhaceen wadada Xamar Bile ee agagaarka Saldhigga Wardhiigleey, iyadoo la isku adeegsaday hubka nuucyadiisa kala duwan, dagaalkaasi oo dhex maray ciidamada Ethiopia iyo kooxaha wax iska caabinta ayaan la ogeyn wali qasaarihiisa. Inka badan 20 madfac ayaa inta la og yahay laga tuurey xarunta Madaxtooyada, iyadoona wali laga tuurayo, kuwaasi oo waxyeelo ba'an u geysatay dad rayid ah. Ku dhowaad ilaa 30 ruux ayaa maanta la dhigay Isbitalka Madiina ee magaalada Muqdisho sida ay xaqiijiyeen saraakiisha caafimaadka ee Isbitalkaasi. Dad aad u fara badan oo isugu jira haween iyo caruur ayaa lagu arakayaa wadooyinka magaalada Muqdisho, kuwaasi oo ku sii jeeda gobolada ku dhow dhow caasimadda.

Ahmed Diiriye Vs Saciid Diiriye-- Dhucdhuc & Dheylo bro , Have you heard debate between the two spoke persone . cleary sppke persone for puntland , is justifieing the atrocity that are being commit againts resident of xamar , he whent so far to insult people and their land , by saying its the worst city , they are barbarian and etc . Why is there no demonstration in puntland cities , I understand somaliland they made their voice clear and loud - they wonnt nothing to do with Muqadishu or south somalia , what bothers me is Two face of Puntland. we do acknowledge that there also hawye stooges in TFG , but they were disowned a while a go and live under the pertection of Puntland and tigrey milites. :mad: There was never demonstration or a rally supporting TFG . NOt One member of the TFG had come to speak to the resident of xamar ,

when RER Muqadishu succeed driving the Ethopians out of xaamar , would Pundland expect sympathy from mass of Muqadishu , Can we ever share a country again , The whole city of xammar is unfire , Tigrey troops were not expecting this surt of resistance better yet they are in defence today . Tigery and abdulahi took the odayash Hawye kindness for weakness , simply the odayash accepted the so called dawlade and just asked to remove the Puntland and tigrey milities from xamar , for the purpose peace and stability. Brave men dies one with honour and dignity , A coward dies twice with shame

Ciidamo hor leh oo Itoobiyaan ah oo soo gaaray duleedka Mqudisho. i can believe somalis are glorifing the comming of xaabash troops :mad: :mad: :mad: whats with hostile and deep hate comming from rer puntland i wonder . Do puntlanders consider Reer Muqadishu Brothers or not ??????

Ciidamo hor leh oo Itoobiyaan ah oo soo gaaray duleedka Mqudisho. Wararka laga helayo degmada Afgooye ee gobalka Shabeelaha Hoose ayaa sheegaya in guuto cusub oo ah ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah ay saaka kasoo gudbeen degmada Afgooye ee gobalka Shabeelaha Hoose,iyagoo hatanna ku sugan duleedka magaalada Muqdisho. Wararka laga helayo degmada Afgooye ee gobalka Shabeelaha Hoose ayaa sheegaya in guuto cusub oo ah ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah ay saaka kasoo gudbeen degmada Afgooye ee gobalka Shabeelaha Hoose,iyagoo hatanna ku sugan duleedka magaalada Muqdisho. Ciidamadan oo wata noocxyada kala duwan ee hubka iyo dababado ayaa loogu tala galay in ay kaalinweyn ku yeeshaan howlgalalda nabadda Muqdisho lagu sugayo oo ay wadaan ciidanka xoogga dalka soomaliyeed iyo kuwa nabad ilaalinta Itoobiyaanka ee jooga dalka Soomaaliya. Wararka laga helayo dadka deegaanka Afgooye ayaa tibaaxaya in ciidankaasi ay wataan in ka badan 50 gaari oo ah kuwa dagaalka oo u badan taangiyo,waxaana la filayaa in saacadaha inasoo aadan ay soo galaan magaalada muqdisho. Ciidamadan ayaa la sheegay in ay ka yimaaden dhanka Baydhabo,iyagoo ah kuwii horay u joogay Gobalka Bay ,waxaana booskoodii la geeyay kuwo hor leh ooka yimid dhanka xadkja bara Soomaaliya iyo Itoobiya. Maxamed Cusmaan Axmed Xafiiska warqabadka shabakadda wararka carmooyin.com ee Muqdishoi. Contact:info@carmooyin.com

xammar is not palestine or Chechynya, Kurdistan we dont not need any sympathy againts Tigreyen troops , why broadcast and humiliat our dignity sxb **** that shit ...... the only sympathy xaamar needs is from their so called somali brothers who are either on the side line watching or on the opposite side .