ThanX Manalagaraadbaa, i will be there INSHAALLAH. Subxaanalaah i've been this mosque on wednesday and i did'nt heard about it. Thanx again. ......................................... LAMA CANAANTAAN BAA CAANAHA DAADSHAY

This is BBC Report. I think it is true that many of us sendiong sending their children to abroad for many reasons, however what do you think aboput this issue? some people say it is HARAAM to send children abroad wihout their parents and some say as long as their parents can't offer education and some cases even can't feed them, let their relatives offer these basic needs. Friday, 17 January, 2003, 08:12 GMT Somalis 'smuggling children overseas' bbc Parents hope children will have opportunities abroad Somali parents are paying up to $10,000 to have their children smuggled abroad, a United Nations investigation has revealed. The widespread practice has become an accepted way for parents to seek a better life for their children, the UN says. Those who arrange the transportation of children out of Somalia now consider it a legitimate strategy of survival UN report Some children are simply dumped at airports, suffer psychological trauma or end up in prostitution, the report claims. Somalia remains wracked by violence, but families also complain of a lack of health and education facilities. New routes Smugglers told the UN's Integrated Regional Information Networks (IRIN) that 250 children used to be sent out of the country every month. That dropped to between 40 and 60 children after border and airport security was increased around the world in the wake of the 11 September attacks on the United States in 2001. Some children end back in Somalia - where they are regarded as 'failures' But new routes have been found and the numbers are increasing again, though IRIN says it is impossible to calculate a precise figure. Most of the children spirited out of the capital, Mogadishu, are teenagers, the UN says. "Child smuggling from Somali territories is now so widespread that it has become a critical informal institution. "Those who arrange the transportation of children out of Somalia now consider it a legitimate strategy of survival." Economic pressure Prices doubled after the attacks on New York and Washington, going from $3,500 to $7,000, according to the report's researchers. Some parents paid up to $10,000 for their child to be taken to the West, according to the report, A Gap In Their Hearts: The Experience of Separated Somali Children. "Somalis love their children and do not like them to stay abroad, but there are those who want them to go there and learn Abdulkadir Yahya, Centre for Research and Dialogue Abdulkadir Yahya, co-director of the Centre for Research and Dialogue, a non-governmental organisation in Mogadishu, told the Associated Press news agency there was pressure on parents. "Somalis love their children and do not like them to stay abroad, but there are those who want them to go there and learn... for economic reasons and education," he said. IRIN said parents often raised money to send their children abroad by selling their houses and moving in with relatives. Lucy Hannan, the report's author, said: "It's an economic system. "The only way to try and stop it is if Somalis are given an incentive to stay in the country and are given some sort of future." New identity Somalis are believed to make up one of the largest groups of unaccompanied child migrants heading for Europe and the US. But the report found misery awaited many smuggled children. Often the family just wants social service benefits, and does not give the child any affection or proper attention Dahabo Isa, Somali Development Organisation Some were ordered to memorise a new name and identity to trick authorities but were then just dumped once they were in a new country, IRIN found. Immigration officials often succeeded in reuniting the children, some as young as two, with relatives in the host country, it said. But while some children were cared for by their extended families, some were simply used in rackets to claim government welfare payments, according to the report. Dahabo Isa, of the Somali Development Organisation, a British charity, was quoted as saying: "Often the family just wants social service benefits, and does not give the child any affection or proper attention. "I have heard of suicide cases, where these young Somali children attempt to kill themselves." The report was funded by the European Union and Sweden and is based on research carried out by the agency in Somalia, Sweden and Britain last year. WATCH/LISTEN ON THIS STORY The BBC's Ishbel Matheson "Although immigration procedures were tightened up after September 11th, the smugglers have simply opened up new routes"

Thanks Tamina ilaah qofkuu ka nabadgeliyo ayuunbaa ka nabadgala. laakiin maanta badanaa. ......................................... LAMA CANAANTAAN BAA CAANAHA DAADSHAY

Brother Shuju, the western know our countries more than most of us. whenever one (dictator) leader challenges their interest like Saddam they called him dictator, btutal etc as they (we) don't know him before and they also uncover all his records of human rights violation. why they didn't say at the time when these happen? Are they wrong or we? they're not wrong they are looking their interest, and if u don't know how to look after your interest don't blame others. we deserve this treatment (from west and from cruel leaders) because we are selfish people. to explain this word "selfish" means very long article but unfortunately no spare time.

Thank u and welcome to our site Miss Khadz. I hope u will enjoy INSHAALLAAH. The answer is: CARUUSATUL QURAAN ( THE BRIDE OF QURAN). I will give the chance to other nomads to ask question. ........................................ LAA DHARARA WA LAA DHIRAARA FIL ISLAAM

Qaqa tou are quiet right, but i meant other name rather than this name, not somali name or what we were calling when we were at dugsi. The answer is AL-AKHLAAQ because it says more about AKHLAAQ. Nect Question: the nick name of suratul AL-RAHMAAN.

Congratulation to you all, I haven't been there. but I have been BARIISKII IYO HILIBKII. si fiican baan u dhaansaday that's enough :cool: because maalintii baan socdaa habeenkii waa baqaa :rolleyes: wiil/gabar iyo caano. soomaaliya laakiin wey weyntahay gobol ka mid ah gabadha waxaa loogu duceeyaa SIN KU DHIRIQLEEY wiilkana ......may ka daa. bal tan gabadha waxa laga wado garta! .................................... NAAGI NIN BEY DIIDAA EE RAG MA DIIDO

Originally posted by Rahiima_as-Somaali: Sister Jawaahir, sorry to say, but its true. . many youths like shuju1 would say GLAD TO SAY, ITS TRUE this is an answer to those who blame ISLAM that it does'nt take an account to human feelings, emotions, desires etc. on the contrary it takes an account but in the limit of ALLAH'S will (the creator of human being) who knows their interest more than themselves. ........................................ QOFKUU ALLE KHAYR LA DOONO DIINKUU FAHAMSIIYAA (SAHIH HADITH)

No questions. this is my queston: there are some suras which has nick-names; could you tell the nickname of AL-HUJURAT? ............................................. FARUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYAY, FA'UUL

The destiny of our country lies in the hands of our people, as ALLAH S.W.T SAID IN THE QURAN: ALLAH DID NOT CHANGE THE NATION UNTILL THEY CHANGE (WITHIN)THEMSELVES = (INALAAHA LAA YUQAYIRU MAA BI QAWMIN XATAA YUQAYIRUU MAA BI ANFUSIHIM). -correct my the translation if it's wrong- the word MAA BI ANFUSIHIM ( within themselves) could be from bad to good and vice versa, So, yesterday we changed from bad to worse and today we can change from worse to good or even best. ..................................... HASHU MAANKEYGA GADAYI MA MASAARBEY LIQDAY

Shuju, don't worry Sxb. Duulka sirtooda lagama sal gaaro, they can show and hide at the same time :rolleyes: ............................ RAGGU WAA INTII NAAGAHA KA SOO HARTAY

Jamaal, sxb naga daaya suugaanta afka qalaad. Sxb. afkennu waa hodan gabay iyo geeraarba aawey raggeedii, maxaa ku dhacay suugaanteenii. Xataa haddaan dadku aqoon dheer u laheyn suugaanteena waa inaan baranaa: gabaygaan uu tiriyeye abwaankii weynaa ee RAAGE UGAAS oo u barooranaya afadiisii uu jeclaa ee libaaxu ka cunay ila akhriya, kadibna dhankiinna ka soo laba shuba oo naga daaya afka qalaad. Sida koorta yucub oo la suray korommo buubaal ah Ama beelo kaynaan ah oo kor u hayaamaya Ama geel ka reeboo nirgaha laga kaxeynaayo Ama ceel karkaarada jebshiyo webi karaar dhaafay Ama habar gablan ah oo sidii gocosho ooyeysa Ama kaal danley qeybsan iyo kur iyo dhaal yaabis XALAY KOLO'AYGII MA LADIN KAAMIL REERUHUYE Kambalkiyo ardaagii miyaa la igu kaliyeeyey Kumbiskii miyaa layga qubay kolayggii ii buuxay WIXII RAG IGU KUUNYAAYEY MIYAA IGU KARAAMOOBAY Maantana kataantii miyaa layga kala tuuray Kob abaara meel dhexe miyaa koore ila meeray KUBKA MIYAAN KA JABAY IYO BIIXI AAN KABAYO LOO HAYNIN Kun iyo Kow kurtood dumar haddii laysku wada keeno KOLNA WAXAANAN HELAHAYN HAWEEN FAADUMOO KALE'E [/b] ........................................ AMA SAASAA LOO GABYAA AMA WAA LA ISKA DAAYAA

36 is it right? because my memory is weak. ......................... ILMUHU INTEY TOGAHA KU JIRI LAHAAYEEN TUBAHA HA DAADSANAADEEN

36 is it right? because my memory is weak. ......................... ILMUHU INTEY TOIGAHA KU JIRI LAHAAYEEN TUBAHA HA DAADSANAADEEN

Shyhem, Sxb agree with u 100%. Who do you think you are? And please Don't you tell me that am Naive or my thought's are Naive. I have every right to say what i wonna say and iff you don't like it THEN DON"T READ IT!! originally posted by proudsista. Sister, sorry if u misunderstood my article i didn't attack optimistic ppl, it's good always to be optimistic but i told them not to be too naive. if u want to treat situation u have to tell the truth. our current and last 12 yrs situation is over all expectations. and if u can't see this reality we have different eyeglasses. ALXAAJI MUUSE SUUDI YALAXOOW and his latest statement is just one example of our bitter situation, be aware ! I am not saying the others are better than him they also believe similiar but at least they didn't express publicly their ideas. ................................ KOBO KAA WEYN HADDAAD GASHATID WAA KU DHIBTOONEE

Istaahil, that was the time when it was difficult to see the girls beauty (hair, legs, hands etc) unless to peek when she does'nt know that u r looking her, but today it's easy to see .... :rolleyes: , just joking Sis, i know there are many good, mutaxajibaad girls around. however, the SHEIKH is right it's permisable to do that So, be awrae ! you and all other mutaxajibaaad girls :eek: . ............................... FARUUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYAY, FA'UUL

Nuune, sxb. DAAN, LAAD, ROOTI, ARI, DIYAAR, SAMANTAR, GAAARI and many other words were taken from us by indians. BUT LAANGADHE and SHOODHE we taken from them, particullarly during their stay in northern areas with british colony, don't u see that only reer woqooyi use these words (laangadhe and shoodhe keyse), but above words are original somali words they were stolen from us. Do you also know that indians are xarfaan, they took many clasic arabic words and many arabs didn't know today that these words are originally arabic such as QURBAAN, INSAAF, NIZAAM, and many classic arabics. So, i agree with u the indians are xarfaan they always cheat :eek: ....................................... FARUUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYEY, FA'UUL

Sister Istaahil, don't blame our language. our language is a rich language but we ignore on it because first we didn't write from our grandfathers as many nations did or we got very little from them and msot of us were grown up big cities (where there is no authentic language)or abroad. i will give u an example: how many colours do u know? we know only CAGAAR, GUDUUD, MADOW, IYO CADDAAN all other colours are from foreign languages like jaalle, buluug, kafee etc. but do you know that sayid mahamed abdille hassan has a poet which he mentioened about 60 horse colours, do u know these colours? we can learn if we want. So, our language is rich but most of us have no deep knowldege about our language. Yes, we have some words from other languages but that's not big problem because every language takes some words from other language and that's normal. we also destroyed the small amount of somali literature which we collected last 40 years, so we have to blame ourselves not our language. .......................... FARUUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYAY, FA'UUL

Assalaamu Calaykum, after short break due to SOL's out of service :cool: . As some of you may know but many muslims ignore it THE FOUR KHULAFAAUL RAASHIDIIN (ABUU BAKAR, CUMAR, CUSMAAN AND CALI RADIYALLAAHU CANHUM) come to power in different ways. 1. ABUU BAKAR (R.A) come to power by (in)direct appointing by our PROPHET (S.C.W) when he (S.C.W)ordered him to lead the SALAT during his illness (S.C.W). all the muslims understood that the rasuul (S.C.W) meant to lead the nation not only SALAT and there was no disbute over his KHILAAFAH except very minority ruaral area settelers (ACRAAB) who refused to pay the ZAKAT to ABUBAKAR (R.A) and this disbute was solved quickly by the wisdom of ABUBAKAR (R.A). 2. UMAR BIN AL-KHATAAB (R.A) was appointed directly by ABUBAKAR (R.A) and there was no any disbute over the appointment. 3. CUSMAAN BINU CAFAAN (R.A) was elected by 6 big sahabas (CALI BIN ABII TAALIB, CUSMAAN BIN CAFAAN,DHALXA BIN CUBAYDULAAH, ZUBAIR BINUL CAWAAM, SACAD IBNU ABII WAQAAS AND CABDURAXMAAN IBNU COOF RADHIYALAAHU CANHUM) who were appointed by CUMAR (R.A) to elect khalifa between them on majority basis. he (R.A) also told other shahaba to be present the meeting as a advisors not as candidates these sahaba include ZUHEYB, HASAAN BIN CALI, CABDULAAHI IBNU CABBAAS, CABDULAAHI IBNU CUMAR RADIYALAAHU CANHUM. He gave them 3 days as a deadline to elect KHALIFAH. when the last day come CALI, CUSMAN AND CABDURAXMAAN (R.A) were the final candidates. there are some RIWAYAS saying that ABDIRAXMAAN (R.A) went to to the city to ask people which candidate they prefer CUSMAAN or CALI because he didn't want to bcome KHALIFAH he just want to know who he may give his voice and later(after long discussion), CUSMAN (R.A) got the majority voices. (i know there are many false RIWAYAS on this issue but it's true that CUSMAN (R.A) won this vote). 4. ALI BIN ABI TALIB (R.A) the last KHALIFAH he come to power by the desire of the people. when CUSMAN (R.A) was killed by men from EGYPT all the people gathered in front of the home of ALI (R.A) to force him lead the UMMAH after USMAN (R.A) because no one on earth at that time was more aplicable to this position than ALI (R.A). he refused initially because he (R.A) knew that some munaafiqiin and enemies of islam will take advantage of this event (the killing of CUSMAN -R.A-) and will create FITNAH between muslims, but after many advices of big SAHABA he accepted the desire of the public. he (R.A) faced DILEMMA either to leave the nation without leader or to be ready this FITNAH and he (R.A) chose to face all these challenges for the sake of ALLAH and the UMMAH. Can we conclude these conclusion. 1. (IN)DIRECT APPOINTMENT FOR ABUBAKAR (R.A) 2. DIRECT APPOINTMENT FOR CUMAR (R.A) 3. SHURA OR PARLIAMENTRY ELECTION FOR CUSMAN (R.A) 4. GENERAL OR PUBLIC DESIRE FOR CALI (R.A) This is not final conclusion, anyone can give his/her point of view, my purpose was only to show you that the chosing a muslim leader is not confined in a particular way but it could be one of these four ways, since our PROPHET (S.A.W) orders us to follow his path and the path of his KHULUFAAUL RAASHIDIIN (ABUBAKAR, CUMAR, CUSMAN, AND CALI RADHIYALAAHU CANHUM). Our present leaders are very happy when someone criticise democracy and they may finance to criticise democracy because they will rule us untill their death. So, as i say before LACNATALULAAH CALAAL DIIMUQRAADIYAH but we want to get rid off these dictators. How we cat get rid off them? if your answer is AN ISLAMIC WAY we've seen four different ways and we can choose any one of them. what about if we choose CUMAR BINUL KHATAAB'S WAY (R.A) i.e to chose parliament and the parliament elect the president. because if we ask people to choose the president they may choose on the basis of tribe etc. .................................... LAA DHARARA WALAA DHIRAARA

Che-guevara, Bro. as Sis. Tamina said you're not pessimst but Realist and our differences (even though we're identical twins in many sides) unfortunately are too deep as most of u are thinking. Sister Proudsista your ideas are too bright but Naive, many somali-loved Bros. & Sis. are end up with silent or do what u can do and that's it. I think, unless there is a MIRACLE there will be no united somalia as it was before. so, let's be optimistic and wait a MIRACLE from our lord ALLAH S.W.T. when the reality is different to your wishes you have to not deny it but face it. .................................... LAMA CANAANTAAN BAA CAANAHA DAADSHAY

Neither ALACRAAF nor ALFATH it's AL ANAAM My next qestion: Who were the 5 ULUL AZM (hard decission makers) among the prophets (S.C.W) whom were mentioned in th QURAN and which Ayah and Surah their names were mentioned?

No, bro Ladiif it's not Al-Imran, Try Again and Good luck. .......................... FARUUROOW BARBARA XAA KU GEEYEY ........ FA'UUL

Nuune well said, u r right but where are the MEN? RAG WAA RAGGII HORE HADALNA WAA INTUU YIRI, kuwa hadda jooga waa xunbo iyo xaabo waa ..... oo miiran, nma rabo inaan magaca sheego laakiin iska garo, Nuune iyo Che Guevara maahan . Caanaha waxaan u maleyna waa qaban qaar, kulli maaha intaanaan ka xusuustaaa: dhayda ama mac = fresh milk = xaliib dhaasij ciirta = carne milk = waa hilmaamay garoorka = yoghurt = roob ........................... FARUUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYEY ...... FA'UUL

Assalaamu calykum Latefha, thanks for trying but HASHR is not so long sura. HINT: the sura is one of the 10 longest suras in quran. Good Luck and try again. ................................. FARUUROOW MAXAA BARBARA KU GEEYAY.... FA'UUL

Thanks Lady Hustla, and the answer is: because we're poor, slaves, weak, sinful, etc and he is: LORD, KING, GREAT, FORGIVER, MERCIFUL, ETC. If he (Subxaanuhu Wa Tacaalaa) count us for all our sins we would be destroyed. ALXAMDULILAAH.