Castro, I don't remember him apologizing nor even deeming to hear our concerns while masterfully ducking out of a debate donning the cloak of ramadan. Therefore I won't relent my stance against him. Hypocrisy isn't generally my cup of tea, so forgive me for not wlcimg him with open arms.

WOL...dissing xalimos never goes out of season, it's a much accepted fact on SOL, now xalimos expressing their dissatisfaction? Now that's to be frowned upon.

Get off sheh's back ppl, she's intelligent and wise enough to see through our resident "sheikh"'s well timed campaign to get back on everyone's good graces. I, like sheh, would be more than willing to let bygones be bygones, but when such a person who's held in such esteem on this forum calls for the multilation of women, all of us, should hold our dear Nur accountable for such an ignorant and dangerous sermon. U might call it whining or just plain stubborness, but some of us wouldn't want the next generation raising daughters thinking that her clit is the root of all problems and sorry if we value our organs enuff not to fall for a few false compliments designed to keep us in our place and not question those who deemed themselves more spiritually aware than us. p.s.-Since you're back Nur, from ur hasty exit in Ramadan, care to go back to that topic and let us all discuss the merits of multilation? It would be a better forum for us to debate our differences on that matter and not having to use other topics that may not be directly related to it. Not too much to ask for is it?

My condolences to you are your family during this difficult time. May Allah grant him Jannah.

Nur, For an illustrious sheikh who prides himself on the knowledge of the deen, u come across a tad ignorant with a dash of sexist and a pinch of chauvanist thrown in for good measure. :mad: Calling on the mutilation of women as a solution to teen pregnancy is not only ludicrous but harmful as well, since many on sol actually believe u know what ur talking about. Laughable concept isn't it? :rolleyes: U also seemed to have joined the ranks of christian fundamentalist who believe the root of all evil are women and to control the airheaded female, one must take away her sexual organs in order that she won't be foolish enuff to let all the mighty swords in. At the risk of sounding cheesy, it takes 2 to tango, and if it weren't for the mighty sperm, the female egg wouldn't be fertilized. Instead of calling on FGM, the lesser evil against abortion u call it, how about u educate ur fellow men other than pointing the finger as usual on the women. Both sexes need to be taught about the consequences of sex out of wedlock, not told that one sex has more of a responsibility than the other. Contrary to ur faulty logic, many gals who have gone thru FGM still have managed ways to lift their skirts despite the well thought out multilation of her organs....so what now oh wise one? Point is, with or w/o circumsition, those that wish to sin will do it, and no amount of stiching and "re-construction" will stop them from their endeavors. Now the logical thing would be to return to religion, and not lapse back into a time of ignorance, hoping that cruelty would be the method of abstinence. As for those that said returning the "wild" xalimos back home, somalia has become the metaphor for chastity....are u kidding me? So like a man to suggest FGM when the results of that barbaric practice has been seen around the world, knowing u'd never be subjugated it to it.... problems associated with fertility, difficulty giving birth, intense menstrual cramps, death, just to name a few, but u already knew that, while doing ur "extensive" research right? Since we can all be whatever we want on the net, and the position of the sheikh is taken, I'll settle for the next best thing....Mary poppins... :cool:

^Thxs!

Zu all the way:) Zeph or 7?

Katrina is yet one more example that Judgement Day looms ahead, with all the frequency of natural disasters happening within the last yr. I just feel sorry for those less fortunate who were unable to leave the city, while the well off, predominantly white families hightailed it out of there....and to hear that there's all this lawlessness prevailing, women being raped, kids w/o food and water,etc....and yet white america is complaining about ppl looting...how else can they survive if they do not take the basic necessities they need, since Bush fell asleep on the job... I was watching the news a few days ago, and despite Katrina and its destruction, i was amazed to see that the american arrogance was alive and proud....an old white lady with the same amount of teeth as a toddler, was wondering in her southern twang why this happened to her, cause its "america and nothing like that is supposed to happen, only to other countries"...like a natural disaster is gonna be bribed by their government to go and hit elsewhere, preferably Iran....also what shocked me was how easy it is to get guns in the US...walmart had its gun collection stolen... i was shocked that it even sells them, "here is ur diapers ma'am, and an ak47 for ur hubby, have a nice day"....and they wonder why there are all these trigger happy folks running around.... Lastly, a co-worker of mine, who's husband works for Hydro Canada, said that when her husband and his team offered to help and were crossing the border, they were turned back by the Americans, cause apparently canada hydro is on its watch list....that is laughable... :rolleyes:

lol...Y ask Y? Zu man knows and that's all that matters...

Bee, u sure that's the real reason? 'cause i know of a few clinics that have ur pic on it...saying.."stay away from that contaminated bee".. u know u can't take zu from me, once u go X, u never go Z

^ouch!...hehe zu...

hehe 7, ur right, Zu was never into ur type, i mean how long can a man wheel ur chair around and expect to get some? p.s.-Green is not ur color....try pink...it won't clash with ur weave Bee, if he sent it to me and u, we at least know china man got taste :cool:

Funny, he told me u'd say that...something about being irrationally jealous ....and yes i am special!....its only to me he sent...or else, he might lose his baby making capabilities :mad:

I was about to, until admin sent me an email reminding me of the rules and not violating ppl's privacy....but for all those still curious, i will send it to their email:)....

That i'm deeply in love with you, until Qac swept me off my feet...now im choosing between u..maybe the sol folks can cast who's betta for me:)...how's that? or shall i post ur "i love u" pm to me here? ..dare me

Ditto layzie....working as head cashier with u at walmart is my primary reason for living... When i first joined SOL, the community section was the bomb....until a few virtual gangistars started to diss the poor folks who were brave enuff to have their pics online....so if admin can do anything about it, i vote to get the community section back....Also the gender wars at that time were more fun, loved scaring the virtual men that maybe one day, their wife won't be their personal slave....oh how i must have burst their bubble....now SOL is full of empty topics that do not inspire the feminazi.... Until next time, keep fit and have fun :cool:

I'm surprised at some of the responses....u won't give 'em up just because they are family? I'm not talking of petty theft, but murder, rape, etc....if that was one of my family members and i didn't do anything about it, let them roam free so that they may do the crime again, it would be my fault if someone else had to suffer cause of my silence...and im half responsible if i knowingly turn the other cheek....what if the crime they committed was against ur family? wouldn't u want the murderer to be caught and brought to justice? Yes? I see, so as long as ur family member doesn't hurt ur other relatives its ok 'cause its happening to someone else, but as soon as it hits home, rules change? or don't they? What if a so called beneath u "gaal" murdered ur family in the west? Ud seek justice wouldn't ya? but what if their family had the same backward thinking of, oh no, we won't give up one of ours, how would u feel? What is irritating is the mentality that as long as the crime was done to someone from the West, hence the ever evil "gaal", then its ok, but what u guys are forgetting is that, on Judgement day, ur criminal family member won't hide behind ur macawis/diraac, but be judged by Allah, solely on the merits of his sins, and no consideration would be given just because they belong to the illustrious family of so and so. Food for thought.

What do you call two Mexicans playing basketball? Juan on Juan What is a Yankee? The same as a quickie, but a guy can do it alone. What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? The position of the dirt bag Why is divorce so expensive? Because it's worth it. What do you see when the Pillsbury Dough Boy bends over? Doughnuts? Why is air a lot like sex? Because it's no big deal unless you're not getting any. What do you call a smart blonde? A golden retriever. What do attorneys use for birth control? Their personalities. What's the difference between a girlfriend and wife? 45 lbs Why do men want to marry virgins? They can't stand criticism. What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying? The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving. Why don't bunnies make noise when they have sex? Because they have cotton balls. What's the difference between a porcupine and BMW? A porcupine has the pricks on the outside. What did the blonde say when she found out she was pregnant? "Are you sure it's mine?" Why does Mike Tyson cry during sex? Mace will do that to you. Why did OJ Simpson want to move to West Virginia ? Everyone has the same DNA. Why do men find it difficult to make eye contact? Breasts don't have eyes. Did you hear about the dyslexic Rabbi? He walks around saying "Yo." Why do drivers' education classes in Redneck schools use the car only on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays? Because on Tuesday and Thursday, the Sex Ed class uses it. Where does an Irish family go on vacation? A different bar. Did you hear about the Chinese couple that had a retarded baby? They named him "Sum Ting Wong". What would you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other? A speech impediment. What does it mean when the flag at the Post Office is flying at half-mast? They're hiring. What's the difference between a southern zoo and a northern zoo? A southern zoo has a description of the animal on the front of the cage along with... "a recipe". How do you get a sweet little 80-year-old lady to say the F word? Get another sweet little 80-year-old lady to yell *BINGO*! What's the difference between a northern fairytale and a southern fairytale? A northern fairytale begins "Once upon a time..." -A southern fairytale begins "Y'all ain't gonna believe this shit...". Why is there no Disneyland in China? No one's tall enough to go on the good rides

^^^^...No Juxa, it wasn't him...

Very sad indeed that 2 young men lost their lives in a senseless shooting, but then again, it seems to be the pattern in Toronto these last few weeks, which shocked many of us because it wasn't a city known for its violence. Most of the violence were gang related, and this one wasn't, but related or not, it doesn't excuse or justify taking someone's life. I knew one of them (loyan),... and I can honestly say he was a respectful, nice and funny young man who didn't deserve for his life to be cut short. Although i didnt know his friend Ali who died alongside him, I've read in the paper that he too was a great guy who, like Loyan, was the only son in his family. Both attended a friends'wedding on saturday night and Ali, i believe was visiting from Vancouver, scheduled to return the day after his murder. May Allah grant them Jannah and may their families and friends find the strength to deal with this tragedy.

Bisharo, U can't exactly throw a party for someone who didn't let you know they were in town, but next time, we will wlc u warmly.

^^ You'd be surprised how much we can accomplish in a few short hrs, and on top of the agenda "Annihilating the male species"

For those who are interested, we are having a get together for Juxa before her departure next week. It will be either Wednesday 27th, Thursday 28th or Friday 29th this week. Those who already confirmed thank you. All other TORONTO nomads (ladies only) please if you're interested let me know. **Let it not be said that we're not hospitable

This one was too juicy for me to ignore, as the endless "women are this, and that" topics have long lost their allure....BUT....just this once, I'll indulge the blatant sexism :mad: ...If only these so called men focused on themselves first rather than pointing fingers at others... So Kheyr if u were truly looking at the situation as a MUSLIM, only, then your response or thread would have stated that you are shocked to see a MUSLIM acting that way, rather than first mentioning her GENDER which led many to rightly believe you were more shocked about her being female than you were her tickling ur islamic notions of purity :rolleyes: So therefore you urself have responded to the situation based on YOUR GENDER rather than just stating the facts and addressing both sexes on the dangers of smoking and how it is a direct affront to OUR religions' teachings. Let's stop the double standards and if your gonna lecture, pls included both genders as the noble Quran wasn't just addressed to the fairer sex. Not for a second do i believe this topic was brought forth out of real concern, but it is a veiled attempt to again put down the female, all in all using religion as a guise. At least have the balls to state ur true thoughts intead of hiding behind Islam, now that is cowardice at its height. Thank u, have a nice day:)

Xafsa, congrats on the baby girl:) In regards to your cabbage soup diet, I wouldn't recomment it because, im gonna assume ur breast feeding so therefore ur child needs all the nutrients and this isnt the time to drastically cut ur nutrition. Instead, opt for smart choices such as switching white starchy foods with brown. For example, use brown bread, make sure it says multigrain on it instead of white, brown rice/pasta, instead of white, skim-2% milk instead of soy (doesnt have as much nutrients as ur daughter needs). Fresh veggies, steam it instead of cooking it or drenching it with butter. In general diets don't work because they force ur body to go into withdrawal, missing all the foods it was used to. Also eliminating all carbs isnt healthy as well, since we need the fuel for energy to keep us going all day, otherwise we'll feel lethargic. Instead of fad diets that promise fast results but that we can't realistically keep up for the rest of our days, choose instead to eat in moderation all the foods u love and/or substitute it with ones with lower calories so ur body doesn't feel deprived. Too often, diets dont work b/c ur blood-sugar levels crash and ur hungrier than u were usually, then ppl tend to overeat, which leads to more weight gain. Ironic that its supposed to help u lose it, but u actually gain more. Moderation is the key. When it comes to excercise, 30-60 min a day of cardio,(walking, running), whatever elevates ur heart, is good for u, not only does it boost ur metabolism for further weight loss, but it also conditions ur heart and lungs. For most ppl, thats not feasible, so do what u can, and for u hafsa, its great that ur walking with ur baby and what u can also do, is maybe run with the stroller in intervals, meaning, walk for 5 min, then jog for a min, repeating it till ur time is up. This forces ur body to use more calories, and hence more weight loss rapidly. As for weights, 3x a week, 20 min is enuff, as that builds ur muscles and helps u burn calories throughout the day versus cardio which is just limited to the time ur working out.Use smaller weights and more rep to create long lean muscle, and heavier weights with less sets for those that want a more buff loof. I also have low iron/anemia and Doc recommended pills and like bee, im not entirely fond of them and continuously forget to take em. But low iron contributes to feeling tired all the time, headaches sometimes and dizziness for me. Im always saying I will eat more food enriched with it, and I do love spinach, but the realities of living in a somali home throws that plan out the window. Thats all folks... with all that advice, ud think i was a fitness guru...somebody should pay me :cool: