silly people, Turkey is part of that monolithic boogyman you call the "West". Its not the West that brought all those protesters to the streets but the heavy handedness of his administration. every childish rally he puts on rather then deal with the grievances of his opposition, the more he will look like a faction leader rather then a national leader.

some times i thinks landers have sense of irony. presenting darwiish leaders for clannish and separatist proposes :confused:

How unfortunate that this man would forsake being head of state for that of head of clan. To squander all the goodwill, political capital and hope that came with his selection. That ludicrous display of recklessness, arrogance and disrespect is a reason now for regional administrations to double down on federalism, autonomy and self rule.

not that that is reason to secede but just saying the we are different and were colonized by someone different can be thrown around more then Somaliland.

m teniya was different and didn't the english rule jubaland for a while?

lol interesting, so everyone is accounted for?

Saalax;958496 wrote: Oo haada ma SNM ba? She is the H in the S.A.H.A.L . I think I just now figured this acronym out, that is clever thinking lol. So someone correct me, wiil waal's people would fall under one of A s?

^ That is what I hear from everyone too. I hear the hotels charge a ridiculous amounts but can clean their doorsteps.

that you need to read any nonsense that calls the pro democracy protesters fascist really speaks volumes about your awareness Qaranki just the guy who started this thread and thinks obscure sect of Shias who are behind this lol

^ You should've pointed that when Hassan was running around spreading misinformation about Jubaland to one and all

Somalia;958459 wrote: Secessionist boys yesterday: Qarxis.com lol

LOL @ Ataturk being ahead of Mussolini in the invention of Fascism. You find that informative?

am really not sure that things were ever as bleak as they are painted in pre AK party Turkey. My fear, and I think of all these protesters is, that Erdo and his cronies in government have all but made it impossible to to form this Robust opposition that you speak of. One that would carry on the Economic agenda of Erdogan: diversification of trade ties and looking for more markets outside of Europe. And opposition that would rein back foreign policy back to foreign ministers Davutoğlu "Zero problems with everyone" and returns the country back its secular roots without the draconian policies about hijabs.

lol, have you seen the protest in Istanbul, Ankara Izmir and other major cities. I wouldn't but above this guy to rig elections though, he has dark agenda that needs to be stopped.

this is a man who systematically brought under his control every branch/division/agency under his control such as the courts, the military, the police, the parliament, the presidency not to mentioned a business community made up of friends, allies or fearful people. I wouldn't trust any claims of how many people he can raise

LOL, I think it was Hilary Clinton or more likely an African villager who so said that it takes a village to raise raise a child. Just the same, it takes a lot more then one man to usher in the kind economic acceleration that we have seen in Turkey the last few years. Be that as it may, I will concede that if you guys insist that he is responsible for the economic recovery of Turkey. Economically , he is accused of cronyism. Political stability, on the other hand is silly. The military used to step in if someone got out of line and went back to it barracks after an election. This man is responsible for both political and Social tension in that country. Politically he has destroyed all checks and balances in government. Socially, the gulf between Secular modern urbane Turks and more rural ones have never been wider. People feel stifled hence the charge of dictator. should all those grievances be set aside for economic prosperity supposedly brought by Erdogoan?

Che -Guevara;958235 wrote: If you honestly believe of the all the institutions the military is the only body that can kick out Erdogan out, then Turkey is f*ed. The military has done horrible job of running this country when it supposedly steps in to protect 'secularism'. And constitution is not really a constitution if it's conveniently and easily overridden by unelected body. I grant you, some of the actions of secularist in the past was ridiculous such as banning the hijabs. but I don't think protecting the foundational principles of the country is overriding the constitution. fierce belief in Democracy, freedom and secularism is what mode Turkey unlike all its wacky neighbors, it should be protected and restored when rural religious demagoguery by the likes of Erdogan threaten it.

some of you are hypocritical challenging demonstration and suggesting they defeat Erdo dude and the AK party through the ballot. the heavy handedness and the erosion of of Turkish Secularism did not come through the ballot either. Erdogan leads a secular nation wither he likes it or not. And the Idea that Turkey would be like Egypt is honestly absurd. If the Generals step in and throw Erdogan's government out in defense of the Turkish constitution, people would just elect another government as they have always done. This man has infiltrated every branch of government, for the people's sake, hope its not to late for the military to step in and bid this fool adieu

Waxan waxa rer hargaisa lagu maweeliyo instead waxqabad ruun ah.

Am pretty sure there stuff named after geedi shambow in the south as well. Dadkaas aya ku oranaya Hashemite banu nahay lol

Xagana degna iyo xagana degna ma waxay ethen geysey bantuland

Was actually trying to go to the walk4lee event in va two weeks ago, thanks for posting

Abtigiis, this is rich coming from a long foot loool

Saalax;957489 wrote: Wadani not only that but many more, the raids inflicted on the Khaatumo clan were written in British history archives. Haji Musa Farab ISO also known Igare of the western Burco community causing a devastating raid on Khaatumos and the Mad Mullah. Looting thousands of livestock. Book:Heart of a Stranger. War bantuguna ma ethnic Somalilandish bey ahayeen?

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