propaganda dagaal lagu ma rayo. Pretty pathetic people have to resort to making stories.

just because a mass grave was found, you assume a lot of things that you do not need to. How do know who massacred who. Could it not be done by the The government, SNM, clans fighting to control that city? Could the people found not be rer burco, Easterner or Somali Galbed?

first, things are not as rosy as you piant them. second, for every reason you gave for Somaliland's independence, there are ten for it to remain in the Union. Lastly, the only thing can lead to Somaliland independence is that the south remain in its current state forcing Somalis in the west and east of "Somaliland" to finally give up on southern somalia.

you know that would mean the entire UIC exept sharif and few others. Do you still it should be accross the board.

I think red is under the false impression that if the ICU and the government fight, Somaliland will get international recognition.

you know you guys are like the Somali version of these guys?

no a graad is not like an ugaas. When his forfathers got that title, it meant a prince, boqor being the king. Ugaas is like a baron. and a suldaan a general title refers to all these people but not the king or boqor.

sida wa laga fican yahay red seayow

mma, of all the "sheikhs" in Mogadishu, what makes this one spacial that you should post it here? Oo isagu maha "rer surwaal gaab"

what was that quote You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train brother there are more important shortcomings to piont out rather then a picture of the president praying.

all this theories apply when the Mosque is next door with all the terreorist blowing themself up, its wise for the president to avoid radicals.

Juje If you have convinced your self its for PR, then why do you ask if it will work or not. Should you not just. The absurdity of you UIC supporters reachs a new level everyday. You on the otherside people who are making maps but make a big deal about a picture of the president praying. By the way, there is something called the press, they follow head of states and take pictures. Abdi For all the pretense about fighting for Islam, here you are calling a muslim that praying a munafiq. That, makes you the real munafiq. Jahil foqal jahil!

GC Typical bigotry from NN. Blame all your problems on the qabil that is different from yours. I think it is well documented that " minorities" ,I use that term loosely considering the fact they are Somali through and through, do not have it well in both regions and that's a problem that is completley independent from "southern radicals". Who is being a begot, I am afraid you are closer to that title then me. I never question the Somaliness of those minorities you are speaking of. I simply pionted out that not only Somali minorities but people who were not even Somalis were all welcomed in the north, bosasso more then anywhere else, and treated will. By the way, never spoke about my qabiil let all blame things on other qabils. FYI, many "Qabils" leave in the north.

Red yes no children with hijaabis either,they are used to deliver flowers to doctorka xoolaha. doctorka xoolaha so ma daamo prison warden and the vampire of baraawe? Kamalu, there is nothing wrong with sharing new developments, there even useful in that they support or discredit topics being discussed. Also, more important then origanal thoughts, in my opinion, is an orginal thought that is relevent and will thought out.

look at that, no children and hijaabis with guns.

red seayow, waxa la yidhi "miro gunti kuugu jirta, kuwo geed saaran looma tuuro"! might we have better chance with what we have rather then forever searching for a perfect administartion that will never come.

I have atmost respect for the legacies of those who fought for our independence (and mind you many Somalilanders among them) From the darwiish to the early leaders who brought the flag mogadishu like Egal and and Graad ali, they were almost all "Somalilanders" or northern Somalis So with that in mind, I prefer to appeal to all my Somali brothers and sisters through the faith we have in common you share that faith with more a billion people. why don't call for a global islamic government?

according to some other sources, the sheikh did not even call for Somali unity but for Islamic unity.

"islamic" groups joining each other is even more unrealistic. you must have heard what happened when the sheihk in hargeisa call for Somali Unity, when people gathered outside mosque. There is notheing wrong with Somaliland and Puntland. Where the major problems have been for the [past 16 years has been the south. before coming up a union government, this instability in the south must be dealt with. For all know, the current adminitsration might not even deal with incorparating all the regions of Somalia and might leave it for the next administration, god knows, all their energy will be spent on pacifing the south and building state institions and repairing foreign relations. by the way, the only way an administration could unite south and north, is through reason: Secession is not possible and if it is not as "Somaliland".

wouldn't suggest anything because I already agree with their policy there. That is, they pacify the south, build local administrations and then deal how to incorparate nothern states of SL and PL.

before I give my two cents, can someone please tell me what "XAA XAABIYAHEE" means?

Red I am not more Muslim than you,I knew that not before,but the fact that you support Abdullahi Yusuf to the fullest even when he makes countless mistakes is unMuslim like. but your holier-than-though attitude comes though laud and clear. Why can you not accept that wither or not you support the moryaans or the president has nothing to do being more muslim then other but your understanding of whats good for Somalia? Okay another question for you Duke,what about Xamar,it's a peaceful city,why do you think it should be taken over by force since that wasn't the case for Hargeysa ,mise runta iska sheego qabiilka isaga ah ayaad magaranaysaayeey......finish the sentence.. has our country become a a piece of meat to be burgened over. I did this, so I shall take this piece here. The government shall control all cities of the country regardless of who did what for it.

khalaf 2. SL and PL maybe healthy spots but they are good for the major clan that live there I suspose, and not for minorites. I doubt a bantu, or somone from minor clan will fare well in "healthy" SL or PL. That is why clan based regions are wrong and unjust-dats the facts on the ground. until recently, when Somaliland feared, for good reason, for it security because radicals from the south were killing inocent people who have come to help, not only minorities but foreigners such as oromos and kenyans have found a better life in both puntland and Somaliland.

Red sea the current TFG is made of formula 4.5 which makes whole tribes becasue of their number as .5s,does that have any position in Islamic sharica or even westrn idealogy such democracy? the 4.5 formula is not a TFG formula. This was made in carta by Somali elders. Also, this formula does not make a tribe .5, thats just what share of parliament seats they will get. What does islam have to do with that? another thing, Somalis are not tribes but one tribe. One way or another, different groups in somalia will never get the some amount of seats, base on formulas or censis. If you were at all trying to be reasonable, you would realize that these "minorities" have gotten more seats in parliament then they ever have with this formula. also, you have said that If I am a qabalist then is notable to Allah,I will let the almighty,the owner of sole decide where my final destination will be. yet you are all gun *** about letting the fate of southern Somalis be determined by moryaans who in the name of god and Islam. little hypocritical, are we not?

"This is the politics section" el generale, Somalis are lately having some diffucalty telling betweeen a moryaan and a sheikh or the politics section and the religion section.