^^ if your not going to answer the questions, why bother with a response?

^ Which door knob are you related to? The Sayyid would turn over in his grave if he knew the likes of you had his image in their signatures. Castro, ciyaalnemada waa laga fiican yahay. And your really getting offinsive. If you think name calling is debate, perhaps there are a lot more better forums were you could do that. Who my relatives are is none of your business, as for door knobs, call it a day already, we got you, you have new vocab. As for the Siyad, I think the mere fact that you mention his name would make turn in grave, may God rest his soul.

^^ inshallah

Did we throw out the golden rules. Why are now people allowed to advocate for clans? also, is it not against the rules to disguise clan name calling with things like "so and so's cousin and so and so's uncle"?

Northerner"I wonder how Duke and his cousins will try to spin this one? " Will this is not one that requires a spin. People should be encouraged for trying to get their voice heard in the face of canadian weather of all things. What I want to know, though, is how you secesionist and new-found Mujahids, sheikhs, al and abu hebels now find it acceptable to dan the cloak of Somali nationialism and advocate hostility against a people who's sons you have claim just a year ago were closer to you anf for people you claimed that you did not share the same language and culture, who you also claimed were politically alian to you because you were the orphans of the English Queen. Guess know the sons of xamar are closer to you then the ones of Baidaba, bosasso and kismayo. Or is this a case of my enemy's enemy is my friend? On second thought, that does not work because they are both your enemies. How shameless Somalis and how short their memory is!

what happened to "A kid born in addis is closer then one in xamar"?

keynan, there is no reason to invade that part of the country. When this government controls everthying from buhoodle to ras kamboni, it will show what farce this somaliland thing is to the world. They will understand that sooner or later, that Burco, hargeisa and berbera can never become a country and they will come to their senses.

unlike some people here, If I may give a realistic hint at what might happen is, this is what I bellieve will happen. First" everything henges wither or not the government is allowed to implement its mandate. Second: if that is the case, Somalia will be divided into federal states: Somaliland, Puntland, Midland, southwestern state, Benadir and Jubbaland. third:These state will each get some amount of reps in an election of a national federal parliament. fouth: The parliament will elect a president That president will form some sort of a federal government.

what a dumb-azz leaders! may be they should offer pple a reward for turning their weapons! Smart guy, we are too poor to do that.

Are we wrong to know who our enemy is? Might we consider our enemy Rampant and mindless murder Lawlessness statelessness Miseducation of an entire generation poverty hunger destruction of infrastructure ?

Oh my god, I see dead people! do you see them too?

mystic, I disagree with on couple things. you say "it didn’t matter what tribe or clan the majority of the ICU leaders were from" why does matter now that it is the government and not the ICU. You say that you did not support either group. I do not know for sure but I hope thats the case. Walaal, for the las time, the TFG is not made up all warlords. it makes no sense. At most we 20 warlords. The tfg Memebership is in the hundreds. Lastly, you ask that we stop comparing the TFG and the ICU. I think that is a good policy, yet I am not guilty of doing that because I am not camparing them but people's reaction the two entities.

^^^biggest loser of them all

MMA, this coming from "this guy dad badan uu ka raaye banooniga". you say this and you want to correct someones Somali? Isku Xeshood mr Banooniga.

it that so, sister, or do you want lessen his creditability he has by saying so. Serously though, why were the discussion of the ICU's clan inbalance side-stepped yet know its ok to piont to what clan is doing what. is the "holier-than-thou period of we are nationalist who do not consider that sort of things " over?

ar maxa waqti lumis wadaan. can you guys debate things that matter. who the hell cares which solder is ethio or Somali. It was made clear long timne ago that they are in Somalia. By the way, this childish name callings wa laga fiicanyahay ya mujahid.

I find it really funny that a lot of people that few days ago scorned looking at the Somali politic through the lence of clan interest when we were telling them that the courts were composed of a single clan, who found it convenient to side step this comman denominator of Somali politics for the past 16 or 17 years now feel they should criticize the government of not being cognizant of it, A government composed based strict formula of equality. the hippocrasy!!!!!!! Have you people no shame?

ma xeeshode, caato iyo wexe la mid ah ba wa la karbashi doona.

Maakhir, you should try to read "The End of History and the Last Man" by Francis Fukuyama This is a more accurate describtion of what might happen. Even though reason conflict in the middle east, africa and terrorism realted conflict put doubt in this theory, it is more consistant then huntingtons.

Baashow, waxa la yidhi:Miro faraqa ku jiro kuwo geed saaran looma daadiyo! This is as good as it get as I see it. I am starting to believe that an irreconcilable dichotomy between the wishs of Somlis back home and the diaspora. The first is driven by interest and the other by ideals. One thing is very clear, getting out of the mess that is Somalia will require people to be little bet more pragmatic. How can people demand an ideal salution to a most unideal setuation?

I highly doubt this guy is who the TFG wants to be the ambassador to the US. Honestly dont know anything about the guy but if he 28, he has absalutly no experience to lead a deplomatic mission to the US. There far to many people whole lot more experience for this job but as I understand it , the government did not name anyone for this job. There people who just claim like the guy before him. I also wonder happened the Somali ambassador to the Un which is lately ran by the deputy.

Note to the ****** 1 Mr ******* Nugaladay: Having principles & growing a back bone along with a pair of manly balls is not a measure of inteligence, It’s a measure of actually true ragnimo . Ninka raga ah wuu inuu Go'an lehya, markaad naageys iyo dabadhilfinimo iyo waxan rag somaleed lagu aqaan qof an ku arko,then I tend to ask those men lease a principle or two from uninteligent non dabadhilif MEN. Note to ******* 2 Mr Liqay: I will keep yours short and brief; News flash it wasn’t a joke.Now what adeer? LOL, what is nugaladay. It makes no sense like everything you write. ******** this, ****** that, are you in elementary school? teda kale, atha magac gaaleed leh ee, dabadhilfinemada at ka hadleyset wa maxay? I never said anything about balls and back bone is how you measure intelligence. Being the door knob that I am, i was pionting out that the connection you made between back bone and balls were wrong. Serously though, grow up and stop this childish name calling. And about that nonses about raganemo and men, please come out the jungle some time soon. I have to some times wonder, why ******* are in cages and people like you are allowed to be among normal human beings. [ January 03, 2007, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

we not I. Are we not?

for what we are, we should have been sold a long time ago.

Brown Actualy Yes. But before you get to wax doorasho,one needs to own a few Principles & a strong back bone[ Also known as BALLS] No, am afried only you know a strong back bone as balls. When ******* like you question peoples intelligence, I guess we are all doomed. ________________ Aflaagada yareeya, baliis. This is a final warnings, biibol. The days of toleration iyo dulqaad waa dhamaatay, for don't compel us to edit your posts. [ January 03, 2007, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]