1"Siyaasad maaha" 2 "dowlad ku sheega" counterdiction no? ya shaikh.

1"Siyaasad maaha" 2 "dowlad ku sheega" counterdiction no? ya shaikh.

dalka Soomaaliya intan la garin, ciidamada Ethiopia ha ka saaraan badame!

Subxaanallah ! ! ! ! ! indeed!!!!

Subxaanallah ! ! ! ! ! indeed!!!!

please for the love of god STOP posting gruesome images. how distasteful that some of you here have made habit of desplaying images of the dead to score cheap political pionts. Please, lets be a little be considerate of each other, what you find entertaining other might not! atleast put a link with a dsiclaimer. Waxan wa laga fiican yahay dad yahow.

please for the love of god STOP posting gruesome images. how distasteful that some of you here have made habit of desplaying images of the dead to score cheap political pionts. Please, lets be a little be considerate of each other, what you find entertaining other might not! atleast put a link with a dsiclaimer. Waxan wa laga fiican yahay dad yahow.

Maakhir "Bariga Sanaag" as Somalilanders call it 1 Badhan 2 laas Qoray 3 Dhahar Galbeed or Somaliland district 4 Ceel afweyne Konfurta or darwiishta Shared but most part of SSC 5 ceerigaabo

MMA I have nothing against Jewish people, (By the way the Habesha are not jews, jewish Ethiopians are called Falasha) but appearently these sheikhs did. do you not find it shocking that these people who are claiming to be fighting for a Islamic Somalia are allowing Israel rep to attend their conference? By the, there is a difference between state of Israel and jewish People. The difference is, to dislike one is a personal choice will the other amounts racism, not that you rants against Habesha people were not racist already.

Its a geographic name no? 1 its neither economic or political but qabiil that has lead to the creation of these two states. 2 you doesn't rexognize them in any sense other that of provences of Somalia. 3 No maakhir can not achaive the same for two reaosns. first is clearly the size. its not even all of sanaag for the love of god! or do you dare make that claim. two, people are already confused in that region even though must are leaning toward puntland. For you to to throw a fourth option into that mix will only confuse people more. Lastly Asha Abdalla is my habar yar. I have had many chances to speak with her about Somali Politics face to face and as a political science student, she has advised me many times. I admire her for what she has done but she, like most politicians, is not driven by what she believes to be in the interest of rer sanaag, sometimes, just sometime, it has to do with her animosity for people in power (Abdullahi Yusuf and Cade Muuse). Most importantly, she was angered when abdirahman cali beyr, another relative of mine, was given the seat in the cabinet instead of her. All along, i thought it is was gonna be awad ashara!

Let them drive the Ethiopians from badame first, these stateless Qaxotees can do nothing for themselfs let alone take on states. the mentality of some Somalis.

War Caamir, Runta misa sheegna? Rer SSC are fighting for their land from many neighboring people who have found dhulboob fashionable lately: Erigavo, Jidale, Aynabo, the Howd,Taleex and nugaal. that has been the case for many years yet Rer SSC along with "Maakhirland" were the reason why puntland was created. Would a little alienation from rer bari make you give up what you have created? alienation is single handedly responsible for the creation of all these "hebel lands" in Somalia. "Rer Somaliland" felt alienated by Somalia, Puntland was threatened by Somaliland, maakhirland was alienated by puntland. If we keep creating these lands every time this happens, were will we stop? heer ay athiga ku garsisey iig! you have gone to the piont of telling Us xero warsangeliba mammul gobleed nogoneysa. Furthermore, without doubt, this maakhir land, will join dhul booka lagu wada Rer SSC. In another thread you were claiming your rag tag militias were fighting in Surmanyo!

Red Sea "On the other hand, You are in support of those harming other somalis (melez zenawi) and yet considering yourself of being a true somali. I don't buy that nor does any sane person except such thing." That would mean I would support you in you efforts to cut Somalia into to two yet I do not not. How can you not see that you hope to do to Somalia is far worse then anything bogas claim you have against melez?

LOL, Muslimnimadeyda aside (I don't what has to do with anything), I am Somali. will for the love of God choose beteween Somali and Somalilander. See, the Fact that you are confused is coming through again and again. The Habasha or melez are not the ones trying to cut Somalia into two but you and those with the Same believe as yours, are. forgive if i don't buy into you bogas claims of Somalinimo while at the same time advocating for the dismemberment of Somalia in the same breath as nothing more then bs. hypocrisy, my friend the easiest to show a fallacy.

I get I am a Somali and Melez is ET but what are you Somali or Somalilander?

come down ya mujahid, was just kidding becasue we all know that maakhir state of Somalia is not possible.

Haylan region of puntland was changed to maakhir region of puntland!

never put all your eggs in what Basket!

I wonder what they will say about melez after this.

Red Sea "Yes Ethiopia is in our country" SXB Somaliweyn iyo Somalilayn maxa isgu qasta?

lol^^^

for the first time in history, Islamist and secularist, terrorist, pro and anti ethiopian and members of the Isreali government are in the same meeting. this a historic meeting indeed, we will see how the plan to chase the Ethio from Badame let alone Mogadishu!

Israa’iil oo ka Qaybgashay Shirka Asmara uga Furmay Mucaaradka Mbeghati Ra’iisal-wasaaraha Mbeghati oo Jabuuti kula kulmaya xubno mucaaradka dawladdiisa ah Ra’iisal-wasaaraha Mbeghati oo Jabuuti kula kulmaya xubno mucaaradka dawladdiisa ah Asmara (Reuters/Jam)- Kooxaha Maxaakiimtii Islaamka, xubno Baarlamanka Xorta ah la baxay iyo aqoonyahanno ka socda bulshada rayidka ah oo qaarkood dibadaha ka yimaaddeen, ayaa shalay shir uga furmay magaalada Asmara ee caasimadda dalka Eritaria, kaas oo ay ka qaybgaleen in ka badan 400 ergay. Shirkan oo shalay gelinkii hore iyo kii dambaba socday, ayaa siday sheegtay wakaaladda Reuters ka qaybgaleen ergooyin kale oo caalami ah oo ay ka mid yihiin wakiillo ka socda Qaramada Midoobay, Faransiiska, Israa’iil iyo xubno Guddiga Midowga Yurub ah oo goob-joog ka ahaa fadhigii koowaad ee kooxaha mucaaradka ku ah dawladda Mbeghati iyo joogitaanka ciidammada Itoobiya uga furmay magaalada Asmara. Tirada wakiillada lagu casuumay shirka Asmara ayaa lagu sheegay ilaa 300 qof. Shirka ka furmay Asmara waxa markii ugu horreysay lagu arkay Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo dhuumasho ku jiray tan iyo markii ay ciidammada Itoobiya xoogga kaga saareen magaalada Muqdisho dhammaadkii sannadkii 2006-kii, iyada oo ay Maraykanka iyo Qaramada Midoobay ku dareen liiska dadka loo tuhunsan yahay inay ka tirsan yihiin ururka Al-qaacida. Sheekh Shariif Sh. Axmed oo ahaa Guddoomiyihii Fulinta ee Maxaakiimta, ayaa isna ka hadlay furitaankii shirka, waxaannu ugu baaqay Maraykanka inuu ku soo biiro kooxaha mucaaradka, isaga isla markaana gaashaanka ku dhuftay eedaymaha uu ku sheegay in Itoobiya soo macmashay ee ah inay argagixiso yihiin. Sheekh Shariif waxa uu u soo jeediyey Maraykanka inuu ka ciyaaro arrimaha Soomaaliya door waxtara oo dhinaca wanaagsan ah, isaga oo daboolka ka qaaday in siyaasadda arrimaha dibadda Maraykanka ee Soomaaliya ahayd mid la yaab ah oo iska horimanaysa. Geesta kale, Sheekh Aweys oo 72 jir ah oo ahaa kornayl ka tirsanaa ciidammadii Siyaad Barre, ayaa sida Reuters soo tebisay aanay maamulka Washington ilaa hadda wax faallo ah ka bixin isa soo bandhigidda Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo muddo dheer aan la ogeyn meel uu ku sugnaa. Dhinacyada shirka ka qeybgelaya oo aan aqoonsaneyn dawladda Mbeghati, ayaa sheegay in shirka Asmara uu ka duwan yahay shirarkii hore, isla markaana shirkani yahay mid aan lagu iman qabiil iyo afar beelood iyo badh (4.5). Furitaankii shirkan waxaa ka hadlay Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Fulinta Maxkamadihii Islaamka Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed, wuxuuna sheegay Sheekhu in Soomaaliya ay gumeysi ku jirto, waxyaabaha shirka looga hadlayana ay ka mid yihiin sidii gumeysigaas looga xoreyn lahaa dadka Soomaaliyeed. Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed waxa uu sheegay in Itoobiya ay ku duushay dalka Soomaaliya, ayna qixisay dad gaadhaya hal milyan ruux, isla markaana ay haatan hortaagan tahay in la caawiyo dad tiradoodu gaadheyso 400.000 oo ruux, kuwaas oo xaalad nolol xumo ah ay ku heyso degaanada u dhaxeeya Muqdisho Afgooye. Guddoomiyaha Guddigii Fulinta Maxkamadaha, Islaamka Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed, waxaa uu intaas ku daray in aysan Soomaaliya joogin dad argagixiso ah sida marar badan lagu celceliyo, wuxuuna caddeeyay in haddii ay joogaan dad argagixiso ah mar hore la arki lahaa saxaafaddana loo soo bandhigi lahaa. Sidoo kale waxa furitaankii shirka ka hadlay Guddoomiyihii hore ee Baarlamaanka Sharifi Xasan Sheekh Aadan oo isagu hoggaamiya xubnaha la baxay Baarlamaanka Xorta ah ee Soomaaliya, wuxuuna Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan sheegay in waxyaabaha ugu muhiimsan ee shirkan looga hadlayo ay yihiin sidii loo xoreyn lahaa dalka Soomaaliya oo la qabsaday. Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan wuxuu sheegay in shiweynaha ay u taal waxa lagu dhisayo shirkan, wuxuuna carrabka ku dhuftay in ergooyinka ka qeybgelaya shirweynahan ay yihiin kuwo isugu yimi in ay dalkooda xoreeyaan, “Dadka isugu yimi qabiil kuma iman, xil laguma soo raadsan, waxa kaliya ee ay isugu yimaaddeena waa sidii looga tashan lahaa in Dalka la Xoreeyo,” ayuu yidhi Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan. Guddoomiyihii hore ee Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan mar wax laga weydiiyay in ay la hadlayaan dawladda Mbeghati kadib marka ay shirkooda wax ku dhisaan ayaa wuxuu yidhi; “Annaga horta dawlad dalka ka jirta oo maanta aan aqoonsannahay ma jirto, sababtoo ah dawladda dalkii bey gumeysi gelisay, sharaftii iyo qarannimadii iyo dalkii bey dhiibtay, dadkii bey leysay, laakiin sidaasoo ay tahay wixii dalka xal loogu helayo oo wadahadal ah in la galo annagu hore uma diidin, hadana ma diideyno, wuxuuse wada hadalkaas imaan karaa marka ay ciidamada dalka ku soo duulay ay ka baxaan”. Ugu dambeyntiina, shirka shalay ka furmay magaalada Asmara ee dalka Eritrea ayaa wax yar ka hor soo gebageboobay, waxayna ergooyinka kala tageen salaaddii duhur iyo qado, waxaanay dib isugu soo noqdeen 5:00 galabnimo. Geesta kale, Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Xukuumadda Mbeghati Prof. Cali Maxamed Geeddi iyo wefti uu hoggaaminayo ayaa shalay u ambabaxay dalka Jabuuti sida laga soo xigtay wakaaladaha wararka. Wasiiru-dawlaha Arrimaha Gudaha xukuumadda Mbeghati Maxamuud Sayid Aadan oo u warramayey Idaacadda Somaliweyn ee magaalada Muqdisho, ayaa sheegay in Geeddi dalka Jabuuti u tegay kulamo uu halkaas kula qaadanayo xubno ka tirsan mucaaradka dawladda Mbeghati, gaar ahaan kuwo ku jiray maamulka Maxkamadihii Islaamka. Wasiiru-dowlaha Arrimaha Gudaha waxa uu ka gaabsaday in uu faahfaahin ka bixiyo waxyaabaha kulankaas lagaga hadlayo iyo weliba cidda ay Geeddi ku wada hadlayaan Jabuuti. Kulanka Jabuuti ku dhexmaraya Ra’iisal-wasaare Geeddi iyo kooxaha ka soo horjeeda dawladdiisa, ayaa ku soo beegmay iyadoo shalay uu magaalada Asmara ee dalka Eritrea uu ka furmayo shir ay isugu imaanayaan kooxaha ka soo horjeeda dawladda Mbeghati iyo joogitaanka ciidamada Itoobiya ee Soomaaliya. Ugu dambeyntiina, madaxda Mbeghati ayaa dhowr jeer oo hore oo ay hadleen waxay sheegeen in ay cafis u fidiyeen xubnaha Maxkamadihii Islaamka iyo dadkii la soo shaqeeyay marka laga reebo kuwo sida ay yidhaahdeen ku jira liiska argagixisada caalamka, inkastoo cafiskaas ay ka soo horjeesteen madaxda Maxkamadihii Islaamka oo sheegay in haddii wax la cafinayo in cidda u baahani yihiin masuuliyiinta dawladda Mbeghati oo siday yidhaahdeen dalka ku soo hoggaamiyay ciidamo cadaw ku ah dadka Soomaaliyeed. Jamhuuriya Online Waxasa Sheikho isku sheegeya!

oodweyne: "But be that as it may, the idea of Democrats shoring up, the occupation of Somalia by the Ethiopian's army, on the basis of making Somalia, as you said it, a radical free State that supports western interests, is one for the birds..." Again I have disagree with you. lets be honest about few things. The two candidates that really have a chance of making it into the white house are Obama and Hillary. Both candidates have shown or in the case of Hillary have a record of seeing eyey to eye with bush of matters of foeirgn affairs. Obama, said he would even bomb Pakistan's tribal territories unilateraly if he had to. Am sure you are aware that not only is that stance as Hawkish as Bush's but that it's implications are far worse in that if you were to overthrow Musharaf, you would hand the state state to radicals with nuclear. one clear example of unchanging US foreign policy is clearly Isreal. regardless of which party took power, US policy towards Isreal has been the same. If you were to consider that fact that the pentagan is conservative leaning almost always and the fact that they are trying expand its activities in the horn, I don't know how the need to safegaurd a stable, pro western and radical free state would not be in the interest of those in washington be they the pentagan or the white house. Mind you, this government is not only supported by Ethiopia and the US but must of the states, NGOs and GOs in the world. I believe our disagreement is mainly from who we believe is backing Ethiopia to assist somalia until things are resolved. We can argue both for the US or the EU but the fact remains that all of them (US, EU, UN,AU and China among others) have encouraged Ethio assistance to the Somali government, again i fail to realize how that international support for stability in Somalia would be altered by a change of parties in the white house (A change that I am not only hoping for but almost certain of as a democrat).

"The opposition has proved that this TFG can not survive in a day without Ethiopian protection." I will simply have to disagree with you that the opposition has proved anthying. No one will disagree with you that the government needs the assistance of foreign troops and peacekeepers while it works on building its military and policing capacities. Its another thing thing to say they can not survive without Ethiopian protection. but we really can't test that theory until the Ethiopians leave, can we. before then, we must not, unles we a have a some round crystal ball or miss cleo on speed dial, come such an unfounded conclusion. "Islamists have upped the game by elevating the body politics to a new heights with monumental implications." Again they have not elevated anything. Present among these opposition groups are elements of some kind as what they are opposing! Its a counterdiction on their part and hypocrisy on the part of their supporters. For example, they say they are opposed warlords but among them are some of the biggest warlords such as Aydiid and Indo among others. they say they oppose Ethiopia, but again among them are people who have not only supported Ethiopia just a short few months ago but has been for years and was faired by the government for saying that Ethiopia and Somalia will become one! They say that they oppose the 4.5 formula but the disparity of clan representation far, far worse then it ever was under the Government or for that matter any other organization with the aspiration of ruling the country. "Facts being that obvious one can not help but to see that this conflict won't go away without warring sides (hardcore gees) settling their differences in a dirrin." be that as it may, you still have not answered my question. One side has no interest in settling their difference in a "dirrin". by all means, I agree with you that that is the way forward but what do you do if one side has no interest in that/ "If this TFG succeeds by having foreign hands tame their opposition today you will risk an uprising tomorrow in another disasterous corrective action taken by malcontents a la civil war. De ja vu all over again." We have been in a low level civil war for the better part of two decades, no news there and surely no reason to fear trying other methods to restore the country other then the ones we no will fail: peace conferences without any means of inforcing the terms agreeed upon. "Awoowe Inna Yussuf's days are numbered (age will sneak upon him) and with it is the whole clan's standing. It stands to reason that one is ought to put his eggs on a negotiated settlement that addresses each and every grievances out there." Elah ba oog qofba goor to tagayo and I think the president is aware of that, it has nothing to do with opposition timelines. this government will do what it has to do regardless of who dies. If the president dies while in office, God forbid, he will be replaced by the speaker of parliament until they elect another president. And Nothing will happen to his clan's standing regardless of what happens to the President that has not happened already, All they have to gain is the return of their state. "To get there you need to listen to the line of reasoning that argues the road to lasting peace in Somalia runs through the reconciliation process." Totally agree, but you have to be able to inforce the agreements and for the love of God, how many reconciliation processes must we go through/ "It is good to put a face with the opposition a face that Ethios can not dismiss it with their usual terrorist card. Remember GOP could lose the election come to next round. Meaning Ethios green light to play ball in its eastern foe's backyard might change to red with no amber warning in transition in 16 months time." Not only might, but the GOP will almost certainly lose. Its know a matter of the first woman or first African Amrican. yet you are wrong to assume that US foreign policy will redically change due to change of parties in the executive branch of government. Its tubborn to change and that is because its driven by national interest rather then partisan ideology and th US is will always have an interest in a radical free and pro western Horn of Africa.