"Remember if Sanaag were part of Puntland, the map of Somaliland by AlJazeera would have now included both of these regions. " This doesn't make sense caamir, it would either be part puntland or Somaliland. and though this maakhir idea has not went beyond few house in badhan, how can you not see that happened to laas caanod will happen to badhan? AS for ceerigaabo, there is a Somaliland flag but no Somali flag, am i wrong.

Khalaf, you are under the false impression that my views of the ONLF are based on Ethio-TFG realtions. thats not the case and i am, at very least, very sympathetic towards the ONLF and its goals. Yet the realty on the ground forces me to think the activities of the ONLF are at the very least unhelpful. Before the Somali Civil war, Inhabitants of this region were economically connected to Somalia (use of the Somali currency,better trade relations then they had with the Ethiopians), they spoke their own language, politically supported the ONLF rather then Ethiopian administration. this is no longer the case. Amaharic is more popular in Jigjiga then the mixed city of dire dawa. The Ethiopian bir rather then the Somali shillin is used as far north as borame. Local politicians armed with dollars and birs compete with the Unsupported ONLF. People have grown tired of wars and see more benefit in the development initiatives of the Somali State of Ethiopia rather the empty patriotic slogans of the ONLF(Somalia itself can not get its house in order, what the heck would they secede to). The ONLF, in short, is seen at best as inefficient and pointless or worse, clan jabhat. We must understand that the most important weapon of a guerrilla fighter is a receptive populous. Without that, there is no war. as former guerrilla fighters, the TPLF knows how to defeat one. At the end of the day, that war is race to win the hearts and mind of the natives and as it stands today, the ONLF has very little going for it compared to the ruling EPRDF. For the ONLF to make the mistake of not taking the concerns of the people to heart would only guarantees their defeat. for more can be accomplished by building a health clinic and schools rather then bombing and hostage taking at this stage. as for the referendum. Ethiopia continues to repeat that, if it is the will of the states people, they would do that. The ONFL should call the bluff of the EPRDF and ask for international monitoring. For them to just keep repeating that Ethiopia is not making promes in good faith and that they therefor will not even bother with it is very childish. Lastly, if they are not the patient, they should cut some kind of a deal with other jabhads like the OLF (a shared Diri dawa or Diri Dawa for Harar). So many better options then what they are doing know.

opposition is why have lost so much time, can they afford to lose to more years. I hear buubaa has nominated himself, lets hope he goes with that guy

"It does not include Sanaag, of course the state of Makhir" Caamirow, thinking like this is why somaliland occupies both capitals of Sool and Sanaag today ee maa joogted with this maakhir state nonsense. What would take, the occupation Badhan, dhahar or laas qoray?

"Che is anti TFG and you are Pro." it matters not my friend to the internal working of Puntland wither or not you are a TFG mucaarad ama Muxaafid, but we all have accept reality no? "besides ninkii Che muxuu ula baxay (-)." Don't know but good question, am sure though philosophical reasoning behind it.

Peeps, i don't hate anyone, of all people, i have none of the reasons some of think i hate them for. if, like you say, the state allows people to carry and trade weapons, forgive me for i am misinformed. in that case, both the state and these kids are all shufto! what i do know is that the police went to this house for reasons that i was and still don't know to get these kids who i know nothing about. when the police got there, these kids just started to shoot in every direction. there are pictures of people standing running in all directions when this happened. in my thinking, when the police come for you and you start shooting, this very act in itself is not only wrong or shufto-like, but you have something to hide too. I am of the opinion that what these kids did was wrong and the government letting them go was wrong and they gave them weapons? Good God whats the world coming to.

Hargeisana waa lagula dagaa

haye, bariga burco? anyways, in that case what you are asking for is cosmetic change, not real change. if you have realized that rer sool do want you, why keep your army there?

-, we must separate long term and short goals. war is not an option, with entire region missing, efforts at socio-political and economic progress must be put aside for now.

am really surprised but don't you know oog and adhi caadeye are part of sool?

"But ethiopia won't allow them to secede, thats political sucide." why do think been telling the ONLF that they could do so. furthermore, how can you ever tell without trying?

sometimes a little thinking is necessary sxb "the issues of the boys the Puntland police mercilessly shelled in their house." I can't believe these shufto were let go!

and who are the people aliens?

again, who did they try to dominate?

ONLF needs to stop alienating its people, "Win their hearts and minds" and ask for a referendum to secede from ethiopia.

what qabiil or "people" have they tried to dominate?

i love it when northerners pretend they care about moqdishu or its people when its painfully obvious that all they care about is the down fall of the government or letting their hatred of "odeyga" be known. Lets tell the truth people, no one is to be blame for this then rer xamar themselves. for nearly two decades they have worked they have perfected the art of looting, sparos, dawladdiidnimo and victimhood (Something they share with hargeisawis). thruth be told, you have three choices if a dowladdiid is using you as a shield: step aside piont him out take care of him yourself instead, they are actually helping these people while complaining about government efforts to help them. i say, let them leave.

"^^^^I seriously doubt if the "people and women" in your post know what Unity is and if you ask me its more like reer hebel iyo reer hebel contrary to what certain folks in here might say.. " the people of this region, FYI, have always fought for Somali Unity. If any "People" know what unity is, its them!

sad truth is, who ever coused it, we are in a state of war and there could not be a worse time for changing leadership.

"This would be nice if it's true." in a normal state of affairs, i would agree with you that cade's exit would be a good thing but why on earth is that a good thing when the state is getting ready for war?

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how bout buuba

indeed

am working on it guys, just give me some time!

for once sheekha, i couldn't agree with you more