why must Somaliland and ethiopia be in every discussion, i only wonder. As for the rest, lets not attack username, its a legit to question why an impoverished region squander its meager resources, risk its stability, handicap its own progress to fill a bottomless pit. lets be honest, regardless of how patriotic or caring we are, we all ask our this question sometimes. Username, declaring independence is like using a shot gun to kill a mice. what you should suggest, in my opinion, is that Puntland leaders adhere to and bring about the states founding principle of autonomy and bring about plans to buffer the impact of a perpetually unstable south. another reason as to why secession is not necessary: if the South does not get their act together for too long, u can always usurp state institions and symbols and declare Puntland Somalia. is not like puntland already doesn't use national symbols like the flag and the national anthem as its own.

Warya JB, your on bugland's case a little much lately, no?

what would happen if you wait and see? would the world end? if we confront every salution with "it will not work" and "it won't happened" is it not fait accompli?

its not really that we are asleep, but that we disagree and how to handle that disagreement. For nearly two decades, we are unable to reach a common understanding on what we need. from secessionist, federalist or islamist. we are one nation refutation of reason. When ever one click loses, others seem to pop up. they way to go forward is two: one side of the many endless sides must win or we must use common sense (if we can even imagine that in somali) to agree to only pursue what unites us and put aside our difference until we can either agree to disagree or work them out. example: force is never an option (even the government if we must). other wise Somalis will be at each others throat until the end of time.

unknown, stop with this ceyrow nonsense, the man is dead whatever he was so let him rest in peace. he was this, who cares? Allamagan, please stop with calacal, following around Duke will not give kismayo to huurale, the man escaped with his life, let him be too. Duke, what is it with these Somali Shaikhs and the Knifes and the cutting. Kawanlayaal meye ahayeen?

mr amadu is somnetimes a little bit a captan obvious.

"“This girl was taken to a room of a certain Ethiopian officer in Mogadishu by force and this is absolutely to violate the brawny Somali culture we have” said Mohammed Dhere" What on earth is "brawny" and "gacma gacmeyeey" mean? Was she harassed, did they shake her hand?

i think sometimes, the fear of you and your fellow dowladiid is that ethiopia leaves. what are you to blame once that actually happens? As the ethio prime minister and the us sec. of state have noted, the The Somali political condition was a pre-existing condition with or without the presence of ethio troops.

Originally posted by Nephthys: quote:Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: if they turn out to be dowladiid, not long Dude, you'd better hope like hell that all those in the Jubba valley don't get together and decide that your ilk is a plague on the @ss of humanity.. oo sharia law left, right and centre la idinku rule gareen.. Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: ya duke, do you know if the admin they are trying to build will be a "islamic" one imposing sharia? , cabsi.com Am columbus ohio, why fear some mullahs in kismayo? By the way Nephi, if we were to go back home, i have hunch you have much more to fear in the sharia Somalis now a days consider so fashionable. for example, if they administered SOL, this discussion between us would immediately declared HARAAM without a third partly male rep from your immediate family. So, as the ardent supporter of Somali shariah, who is monitoring this confo?

yes it matters sxb. if the choice is between, two evils, choose the lesser one.

ya duke, do you know if the admin they are trying to build will be a "islamic" one imposing sharia? and what s is to happen with the rest of the Jubbas?

if they turn out to be dowladiid, not long but it doesn't look like they will go the route of the former islamist.

to be honest, i don't know what is what or who is on what side but am glad that, that blood sucking last mooryaaans of the south have been kicked from kismayo and like the people up there hope baardheere is next. as for this shabab thing, if thats who they really are, its all good. you all might not knows this but the shabaab and the government have been working together all along. Shabaab/UICs or whatever you want to call them, cleans up, government takes over. can you guys imagine how much harder it would have been for the government to take over mogadishu from all those war lords without the help of the UIC? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool...

Somali if they come from SST, Tuaregs, Nubians, black Morocs, some Swahilis, hararis, fulani, Northern abyssinians...

lol, looks fine in safari.

lol @ "what the hell is that". this is deep sea creature people, you have nothing to fear unless your stuck in the middle of the atlantic or the indian ocean. the things that await us in the bottom of the sea! more amazing then space exploration if you ask me.

this question should've came with a disclaimer: answering this question might get you in getmo

Somali taliban?

are some of you, che and dabshid, series? this man is over their working to cut the country in two and now the country or even worse all its citizens should help him? there are a lot more people more deserving of the governments help people.

i thought he was coming back the post of prime minister not the FM.

a little off topic, no?

Originally posted by Juje: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: This has happened before. The cleaning ladies were working for the local admins. Who is against cleaning? Al Shabaab War miyadaan Illah ka cabsaneyniin maxaa beenta kugu wata - ma hubta in ay Al-Shabaab ahayeen? ASk you self, what are the choices you have: A- the Banadir administration employed these woman in order to do what they can about returning some form peace, stability, employment... only to blow them up? OR B- bunch of silly dowladiid trying to cause instability however they can killed this women. Come on people, they have did it before, killing women and children, beheading civil servents, raiding towns, assassinating foreign aid workers and Somali businessmen and intellectuals. Hooray for the latest achievement of you "freedom fighters" Get real people, you all know who and what these moryaans where supported them. whats pathetic is that every time they do something like this, you shabaab supporters try to blame on other entities only to defend what you know is morally indefensible. islam, islam, we are fighting for religion and country, what a joke.

BYW Dhubad, the so called "Odayaasha Beelaha..." blame everyone from the TFG, ethiopia, Banadir administration, Sland and puntland for the problems of Moqdishu when they should be at the forefront of trying to bring stability to their regions. If you ask me, the are themselfs terrorist and if i was a supposed dictator, i'dd round them up and have them executed or jailed.

you have all turned to bunch of conspiracy theorist. SOL's political section should be renamed CTC. WARARKA Dad loo qabqabtay Qaraxii shalay 4 Aug 4, 2008 - 8:12:42 AM Maamulka Gobolka Banaadir ayaa sheegay inay u qabqabteen qaraxii shalay [Aug 3, 2008] 26-qof oo lagu tuhmayo inay lug ku leeyihiin dilka haween fara badan, iyagoo xusay inay baaritaano ku hayaan. Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb [Max'ed Dheere] ayaa ka sheegay kulan ay maanta yeesheen xubnaha maamulka Gobolka in qaraxa ay ka dambeeyeen Ururka Al-shabaab, dadka ay u qabqabteena ay ururkaas ka tirsan yihiin waa sida uu hadalka dhigaye. "Waxaan marsiinaynaa sharciga, haddii ay ku cadaato, waxay mudan doonaan dil, hadiise ay ku cadaan waydo waan sii daynaynaa" ayuu yiri Max'ed Dheere oo dhawaan uu casilay Ra'iisul wasaaraha Somalia Nuur Cadde. Sidoo kale kulankii maanta ee maamulka Gobolka Banaadir ayaa lagu sheegay in 216-Milyan oo Sh. So. ah loogu deeqay qoysaska haweenkii shalay ay waxyeeladu ka gaartay qaraxii dhacay, lacagtaas oo la sheegay inay iska ururiyaan xubnihii maamulka ee shirka ka qaybgalay. Max'ed Dheere oo saxaafada la hadlay kulankoodii kadib ayaa ka warbixinayay lacagta ay u ururiyeen qoysaska haweenkii shalay ay waxyeeladu gaartay oo qaarkood ay dhaawac ahaan ugu jira Isbitaalka Madiina. "Lacagta aan ururinay waxay gaaraysaa 216-Milyan iyo 400-kun oo So. Sh. ah, waxaana ugu talogalnay Qoysaska haweenka masaakiinta ah ee lagu dhibaateeyay miinada" ayuu yiri Maxamed Dheere. Sidoo kale gudoomiyaha Gobolka Banaadir wuxuu sheegay in 100-Milyan oo lacagtaan ka mid ah ay bixiyay dowlada hoose isaguna uu bixiyay 30-Milayn, qaybaha kale ee maamulkana ay bixiyeen inta hartay. Lacagtaan ay iska ururiyeen maamulka Gobolka Banaadir ee loogu deeqayo qoysaska haweenkii ku waxyeeloobay qaraxii shalay ka dhacay Jidka Maka Al-mukarama ayaa kusoo beegmaysa iyadoo qoysaskaas ay ka codsadeen shacabka Soomaaliyeed kaalmooyin deg-deg ah. Dhaqaqa bina'adnimo ee Maxamad Dheere ayaa yimid xili casilaadiisa ka dhex aburtey DFKMG ah khilaaf xoogan kasoo sababey in xukuumada Nur Cadde. Garowe Online, Muqdisho

no people, Muqdishu should be the new capital of Sland