If the election was rigged, it was rigged. doesn't matter if you in cairo, london or the moon. By the way, I do agree that this conception of East v.s. West is childish. What is the East, Japan, China, India, Iran, few Arab countries, Israel... There is a vast Ideological difference between these countries themselves then some imagined commonality V.S. The West.

^ "Went to hell" just didn't why it was funny and why you would through some random ish like that into a conversation. MMA, Sometimes brother, really? Solers include all kinds of people, Muslims, atheist and the ones who thank Jesus for stuff but seriously, sol is an online forum, not Saudi Arabia. You should be confident in your faith without needing others to respect it or validating your beliefs every second. Why is religious plurality so difficult for some Somalis, even on an online forum?

I think her distaste for the uniform don't have anything to do with her religious sensibilities but that fact that "Her perception was that wearing the dress would make her feel as if she was on show". Her being a Muslim has nothing to do with nothing but a poor attempt by the journalist to grab headlines. Be that as it may, working in a bar as a waitress you kind know or should know that not only are part of a show, thats how you make your money, but also have to chit chat with chatty drunk patrons, they have my sympathy.

MMA, because some people do, what the heck. Rudy Sometimes I think ur on some stuffall the time, are you getting those medicinal marijuana in cali? whats "Haha naar galey, lol"? And no I never watch Fox, I go to MSNBC for my daily dose of liberal take on the days events. If I am feeling like a centrist, cnn.

Originally posted by Norf 2: ... ‘Religious people’ AS WELL AS many non-religious members of the scientific community oppose the evolution theory because it has failed to stand up to the many questions thrown at it from all quarters. 51:47. [/QB] NO, you few mormons and Solers believe this, sane people except evolution, scientific debate about some the details is one thing, ignoring facts is another.

Thank Allah, jesus or or the hard working people who make it possible, point is your thankful for it yet here you are, advocating for the oppression of others. Why are you people so blind to this hypocrisy? You like crazy mullahs go to tora bora or waziirastan and let as know it feels like. Like dictatorships, point your finger at any random spot in the middle east and let us know about the experience. But to be here in the "West" and their "democracy" to look up to oppressors, nobody stopping anyone, go by all means enjoy tyranny in all its forms and destitution that inevitably comes with it.

Is getting tiresome to watch all you fake talibans go on about democracy this and western that. Is anyone forcing you guys to live in a peaceful, western democracy? Leave and go to tora bora if you hate living in western democracy. Ahmednijaaz is a fing joke running around debating a historical events nothing to do with iran, trying to wipe countries of the face of the earth, build nuclear weapons, isolating his country, being an embarrassment not only to his country but muslims everywhere. what is worse then that nut is you people here who enjoy everyday simple freedoms like sharing sick thoughts will cheerleading for the oppression of people you call brothers instead standing with these people struggling to free themselves of sick people like ahmednijaaz

A basic teaching of all Abrahamic faiths is that all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve. Yet today we see that adaptation, we have varied races, Asians, Blacks, Caucasians...

i thought you were joking but believe i have nothing to worry about.

lol, why?

somebody needs to tell the truth

and the confusion continues: wearing a jalbab is not a dress code but hideous dress. To misconstrue my opinion of how certain Somalis interpret islamic modesty as an attack on modesty is the true ignorance and yes those colorful personal tents are exactly that.

so, according to you people, describing the attire of Somali woman = leaving a religion. What a load of non sense. Islam tells you to be modest, you may interpret that as jalbaab or burqa or chador or who the hell knows but equating Islam with a certain dress or a tent in my case is what really "takes you out of the religion."

rather then taking as mocking, you should see for what it is: advice about personal choice. I don't make the mistake f equating garments, feel free to mock the silly garments of any culture you like, but it would not be bigotry.

OMG i thought it was only Mormons.

i think the trousers are ok but a little masr or something is a good Idea. Its the Tents that I find problematic.

Originally posted by Nur: The fact that you believe Somalis should be balanced along clan lines is indeed tribalism brother, to see Islam rise in a region and then cry tribalism is not healthy brother, it shows an ailment in your heart that needs to be cured, and that cure is found in Islam and love of Allah SWT. Nur Am afraid thats not so, its a pragmatic answer to problem that has caused Africa's second longest civil war. That you would interpret an attempt to "balance" something as bias or bigotry is a glaring misunderstanding of these concepts and reality. Also attacking others faiths is a sign of lack of confidence in your own. Now as for the topic of this discussion, science and faith strive to answer too different questions, why most there be a conflict? More then that, the methods used to arrive at scientific answers and that of faith is different, one requires observable facts and the other simply requires what you heart, soul, mind or whatever you wanna call, will accept. Its like taking to different roads and assuming you will end at the same end point.

I couldn't agree with author more, a pious muslin will function normally among non muslim of the opposite gender but them among them among muslims of the opposite sex and and the whole situation becomes awkward as shi** quick. I agree with her assessment too that this dichotomy is a result of young muslims in this country being trained early on there are two sets acceptable behavior, Day school VS. Sunday school. Lastly, the thing about muslims opposition with male sexuality, also true, the way they preach about it, you would think a hijab coming of would result in rape or something.

I saw this woman at an israaca conference shortly after I heard her songs in every Barnes & noble and Starbucks in columbus and have admired this woman for the creative and smart business woman she is. The Mog has nothing tho worry about, what, do they want to welcome her with bullets? bravo to reer hargeisa for giving this woman the honer she deserves.

LOL, its worse then I thought, you are cloaking your bigotry with Islam now, forgive the ignorance but I was under the impression that Islam calls jews ahlu kitaab and not gold diggers but thats only me i guess. Also, you are present that quote of mine out of context. I thought i was stating an obvious fact that the Islamic courts were made mostly of one clan and wondering who you could integrate into government was formed with a formula of equality between Somali clans. To paint that into hatred of a Somali clan his a huge miss categorization to say the least. Also, i hope you don't take my encouragement of tolerance of others faiths among fellow muslims as an attack on Islam. mr. Islam, the fact that solers are mostly muslims does not warrant bigotry.

I don't get why people always confuse to completely different things, science deals with how life come to be and faith deals with why. Also, evolution should not be seen to counteract creation, those vague descriptions in the holy books can apply to anything. Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: 1) yes http://jmm.aaa.net.a u/articles/13459.htm (you have to scroll down about to the middle) So it seems the Holy Trinity is just a symbolic concept, God is still one and indivisible. this is a very troubling of Christian doctrine, and your right many christian people seemed confused by this. Yet most of christian friends only speak jesus and never God. one guy even told me they don't believe in the trinity. a Question for all Muslims: Why always use Allah even when speaking english? is Allah not just the Arabic word for God?

Originally posted by Nur: Hassan bro Atheists have more arguments than the above, their most lethal lie is the evolution theory, which reduces life to chance, their logical fallacies are helped by Christianity which lost its way and Judaism which dropped Allah for the Gold. Its high time Muslims get involved in this area of philosophical Dawa to free non Muslims from their bondage to phoney science and phoney religion to Islam, the only remaining true faith on earth. Jazaakallahu khierna for the piece Nur You are a moderator, please refrain from bigotry: Judaism dropping allah for Gold...

^^ Kinda agree but i would include Garaad Cabdillahi Garaad Soofe of buhoodle.

as a former shariif hater, I have to confess Shariif is the best thing to happen to Somalia lately. His cool-headed decision making as opposed foolish rush to more sacrifice thousands upon thousands of Somalis under the pretense to save Somalis from few peacekeeper turned palace guards is a marked contrast of wisdom and foolishness at its height. It is highly disingenuous also of former TFG supporters who went along with Yusuf's at times harsh tactics in the name of clearing an entrenched dowladdiids to now cheerlead for the worst form of dowladdiids. Che, needless to say, i did not take you as a religious moory**n, to see you advocating for these terrorist to impose their will on these poor people, rules am sure you would not subject to your self am sure, is baffling to say the least. Ngonge, you are the foreigners the shabab and xizbul islam say they want to clear from Somalia, if you have any hope of making a peaceful vocation to the beaches of mogadishu, as am sure you are, I would at the very least stay away from the supporting religious moory**ns.

its the nature of people to find differences, that idea that Somalis are Africa's most homogeneous people has been shot to hell.