how long was she captive

let me finish for you guys Godane is a coward who would not step a foot in either Somaliland or puntland because he would get his **s kicked in those regions where there is no tolerance these kinds of pseudo mujahids. Red Sea would not wish upon his peeps up in the north these terrorist but he reasons that for the south it ok because what was there before was worse. Peace and democracy is religion in his neck of the woods

thats racist red sea, all shabelle people don't do the niiko

^ horta hargeisa ha oran ee burco deh. Second, Red Sea will tell you "hecks no" al mujahid reyaale iyo mafriishkeesa waa muslimeenta dunida ugu wanaagson, see waye athiga...

love indie films, where do you gets this one aside from the little preview

the song is we are the champions fool

the song is we are the champions fool

beautiful pics

Its one thing to memorialize dead Somalis, victims of Somali on Somali crime from which no Somali village has escaped scratch free and for which every village is partially responsible. Completely another to politicize their death, ascribe historical inaccurate, to say the least, in a deliberate attempt to sow hatred among Somalis (Somalilanders and I guess the rest) with prayers for the dead. Forgive for not buying that blatant attempt to use the death of those people for your own modern political agendas with hallow "ilaahey ha uu naxaristos"

listen zack, people can disagree. What you consider as against I consider constructive criticism, encouragement of refinement or progress. at the end of the day, my point is that you should focus on the point at hand rather then individuals, if this post was about my positive or negative views of Islam or Somalis , by all means present your case but please leave psychoanalysis to professionals or when its called for. BTW it is said that "A diamond is a chunk of coal that is made good under pressure.” ~ Henry Kissinger

^ never understood that Somali saying, a little harsh

ok, never mind. not as bad as I thought, actually didn't see the bullet.

what's next abwaan, vid about someone's head getting blown up with our breakfast?

also, where they "Green Berets" or red, thought they were red, my two cents for this morning.

looool, the pirate training facilities vid is funny. Why do I get the feeling that I have a front row seat to an exchange of coded messages with your posts here? Any decipherers here?

Originally posted by The Zack: Naxar, Let's put the topic at hand aside for a minute and let me prove my few points here: A- You talk against Somali culture B- You talk ALWAYS against Islam C- You promote and advocate for "western culture" here in SOL all the time I will back this up with your exact words. Defending the west Check this out Tanna ila eeg bal Tanaa kasii daran This one is really disgusting How about this one? God is perfectly evil? Are u agreeing with the atheist Banaankaa ku keenaa adeer waxba geed hoostiis haku gabban. This is funny, good to know that i have an audience but seriously, what is the point? That I am anti East, Somali and Islam? We are entitled to our opinions but I beg to defer.

must have been refugees or tourist from Somaliland

here is another take on the virgins in heaven for martyrs August 4, 2004 Martyrs, Virgins and Grapes By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF ''The virgins are calling you,'' Mohamed Atta wrote reassuringly to his fellow hijackers just before 9/11. It has long been a staple of Islam that Muslim martyrs will go to paradise and marry 72 black-eyed virgins. But a growing body of rigorous scholarship on the Koran points to a less sensual paradise -- and, more important, may offer a step away from fundamentalism and toward a reawakening of the Islamic world. Some Islamic theologians protest that the point was companionship, never heavenly sex. Others have interpreted the pleasures quite explicitly; one, al-Suyuti, wrote that sex in paradise is pretty much continual and so glorious that ''were you to experience it in this world you would faint.'' But now the same tools that historians, linguists and archaeologists have applied to the Bible for about 150 years are beginning to be applied to the Koran. The results are explosive. The Koran is beautifully written, but often obscure. One reason is that the Arabic language was born as a written language with the Koran, and there's growing evidence that many of the words were Syriac or Aramaic. For example, the Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get ''hur,'' and the word was taken by early commentators to mean ''virgins,'' hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant ''white'' and was commonly used to mean ''white grapes.'' Some martyrs arriving in paradise may regard a bunch of grapes as a letdown. But the scholar who pioneered this pathbreaking research, using the pseudonym Christoph Luxenberg for security reasons, noted in an e-mail interview that grapes made more sense in context because the Koran compares them to crystal and pearls, and because contemporary accounts have paradise abounding with fruit, especially white grapes. Dr. Luxenberg's analysis, which has drawn raves from many scholars, also transforms the meaning of the verse that is sometimes cited to require women to wear veils. Instead of instructing pious women ''to draw their veils over their bosoms,'' he says, it advises them to ''buckle their belts around their hips.'' Likewise, a reference to Muhammad as ''ummi'' has been interpreted to mean he was illiterate, making his Koranic revelations all the more astonishing. But some scholars argue that this simply means he was not ''of the book,'' in the sense that he was neither Christian nor Jewish. Islam has a tradition of vigorous interpretation and adjustment, called ijtihad, but Koranic interpretation remains frozen in the model of classical commentaries written nearly two centuries after the prophet's death. The history of the rise and fall of great powers over the last 3,000 years underscores that only when people are able to debate issues freely -- when religious taboos fade -- can intellectual inquiry lead to scientific discovery, economic revolution and powerful new civilizations. ''The taboos are still great'' on such Koranic scholarship, notes Gabriel Said Reynolds, an Islam expert at the University of Notre Dame. He called the new scholarship on early Islam ''a first step'' to an intellectual awakening. But Muslim fundamentalists regard the Koran -- every word of it -- as God's own language, and they have violently attacked freethinking scholars as heretics. So Muslim intellectuals have been intimidated, and Islam has often been transmitted by narrow-minded extremists. (This problem is not confined to Islam. On my blog, www.nytimes.com/kris tofresponds, I've been battling with fans of the Christian fundamentalist ''Left Behind'' series. Some are eager to see me left behind.) Still, there are encouraging signs. Islamic feminists are emerging to argue for religious interpretations leading to greater gender equality. An Iranian theologian has called for more study of the Koran's Syriac roots. Tunisian and German scholars are collaborating on a new critical edition of the Koran based on the earliest manuscripts. And just last week, Iran freed Hashem Aghajari, who had been sentenced to death for questioning harsh interpretations of Islam. ''The breaking of the sometimes erroneous bonds in the religious tradition will be the condition for a positive evolution in other scientific and intellectual domains,'' Dr. Luxenberg says. The world has a huge stake in seeing the Islamic world get on its feet again. The obstacle is not the Koran or Islam, but fundamentalism, and I hope that this scholarship is a sign of an incipient Islamic Reformation -- and that future terrorist recruits will be promised not 72 black-eyed virgins, but just a plateful of grapes. William Safire is on vacation. Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company Home Privacy Policy Search Corrections XML Help Contact Us Back to Top

Originally posted by Red Sea: MMA, Enemy= warlords in Sh. hotel ranks, himself, Amisom forces and those who are standing in the way of lasting peace in Somalia. How is it that you have convinced yourself that "lasting peace" could be achieved through stonings, beheadings, amputations, public flogging, isqarxis and so on?

^^ there were 40 something Somalilanders in mogadishu in 1989?

looool, i don"t think thats kashafa

Good job for bringing the mafriish stories to sol...

Ilaahey soomaali haa uu sahlo. what insatiable appetite we have for the vilification of any majnuun who steps up to the plate to safe this country. to add insult to injury, every dowladdiid wuxu la so taganyahay somalia ha nolato!

nice vid except the two oromo ladies are not Somali

sort of, there seems to be a lot of back and forth though, still a little confused but i will research their history. so for all I got was they want to turn the clock back to a certain date. To the poster, what makes you thing Somalis, I rerly come across people who say they are salafis. Meet more sufis or those who don't even know what school of thought they follow but just pray, fast and ...