This move is designed to get the constitution the max support, PL knows if they say No, everyone else will say YES. watch the space it will be passed with big majority.

10.05.2012 Abtigiis;829114 wrote: "Recognize Somaliland", Abtigiis urges the international community 24hrs later 11.05.2012 Abtigiis;829114 wrote: .. meel aan ku idhi somalia iyo somaaliland ha la kala gooyo miyey jirtaa? Which one are you sober?

uchi;829016 wrote: They are still drilling through some large rock~

nuune;828993 wrote: Sxb, we can pay everyone's salary without dodgy UN, tell them to leave us alone since you know too much about them, leave us alone, we can manage ourselves and generate our own income to pay salaries for those working for the public. But in reality, it is this way, I pay you, obey my orders, you like to to be held hostage like that, am sure we are on same page here! We don't need their salaries and food aid, do you?!! sxb I admire your good heart and good intentions, but that is the reality, we contribute nothing so we have no right to be independent, this "leave us alone and we can do it our selves" rants are nice and admirable slogans, but they are just slogans, maybe you should pay a short visit to the country, and believe me these guys "UN" run it, and no body is forcing Somalis to keep them that way, but that is how things are, and the only way we Somalis could get out of this voluntary slave & master relationship is the day we realize "if you can't feed your self, you don't deserve your freedom".

nuune;828966 wrote: this really changes the whole thing we knew about who is running the country, at least 10% was run by the TFG, but not 100% as the letter clearly displays. Cajjab weeye dunidan, inteen aadnaa marka, hadii meel walba hey'ad xunoo UN ah inoo dhigatey isbaaro kiimikeesan. Nuune caadifada iska daa, who pays the salary of the whole tfg, the Pres, the PM, the MPs , who guards them, and then you're telling us they should run the country 100%, get real sxb, Who pays the bill runs the country, that is the cruel reality.

Well done JB, if I was Siilaanyo I would've promote you to become the foreign minister of SL, you seem to be a man who can sell ice to the Eskimos.

Our seas are one of the richest in the world, take for example the TUNA, the value of tuna captured from our seas is $6 billion a year. imagine how much the other types of fishes worth. here is an article about the tuna loses due to piracy. The coast of Somalia is rich source of tuna from August to November Piracy off Somalia's coast is a cause of falls in tuna catches in the Indian Ocean - one of the world's richest sources of the fish, experts say. The head of the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission, Alejandro Anganuzzi, said catches fell by about 30% last year, seriously affecting the industry. The Seychelles economy has been badly hit as many foreign fishing fleets are based there. The reduced supply because of piracy has also driven up the price of tuna. Ship seizures The Indian Ocean tuna industry is said to be worth up to $6bn. Last year Somali pirates took 42 commercial ships with crews hostage, according to the International Maritime Bureau, including the biggest oil supertanker ever captured. A number of countries began naval patrols off East Africa and in the Gulf of Aden to try to combat the attacks. With the threat still present, fishing fleets have had to move further east from the Somali coast, Mr Anganuzzi told Reuters news agency. About 40% of Seychelles's foreign earnings come from tuna and related industries, the IOTC said. French and Spanish fleets based in Seychelles caught only 50% of their expected catch. The fleets usually catch nearly two-thirds of the year's haul off Somalia between August and November, he said. Seychelles is paid per tonne of fish landed for port facilities and reduced catches mean fewer calls to port. "The pirates' biggest impact, however, is reduced supply, driving prices up," the head of the Seychelles Fisheries Authority, Rondolph Payet, told Reuters. http://towardfreedom.com/africa/2118-the-real-pirates-in-somalia-washington-paris-and-oslo

Coofle;828707 wrote: malaayga ayaa dadka ka waawayn...Where would see that??? Another Advantage of Budhcad-Badeed, They saved the magnificent marine life from scavengers..... Kudos my fellow pirates.. Can anyone help me with the names and nomenclature of sea creatures in Somali Language ....I am one of the people who never lived near an ocean back in Somalia... Thanks for the share Coofle. here is the names of most sea species which live in Somali area. http://rugsan.com/kalluun.php

Xaaji Xunjuf;828546 wrote: ^^ Amiirku wadan kale bu jooga wax fahan:D waa inaan soo tarxiilnaa.

Maanta waa maalintii imaamyada, cajabeey cajiib maalin waxaa carooda garaadada, maalin islaamaha, maalin habraha. Allow umuuraha sahal.

Xaaji Xunjuf;828531 wrote: War naga daa they have Alqaeda supporters:D and you have Amiirka.

Xaaji Xunjuf;828526 wrote: Tallow qodobke la badalay? one general down, two professors to go.

MUQDISHO: Yuusuf Indhocadde oo isbedelay mar kale, kaddib markii uu sheegay in qodobo dhowr ah laga bedelayo Dastuurka Yuusuf Indhocadde ayaa sheegay in madaxda dowlada federaalka ay la kulmeen , kalana hadleen arrimo badan oo dastuurka ku jira loona baahan yahay in wax laga bedelo, arrinkaas oo uu ku sheegay in laga aqbalay. Indhocadde ayaa intiimiyey in shaqsiyaadka ka soo horjeeda dastuurka ay yihiin kuwo ku qanacsan inuu sii jiro baarlammaanka hadda jira, isagoo kooxahaas ugu qaaqay inay joojiyaan mucaaradnimada , kana wardhowraan xukuumada. Yuusuf Indhocadde ayaa ka digay kooxaha abaabulaya banaanbaxyada , isagoo sheegay in banaanbaxyadu ay wax u dhimi karaan nabadgelyada ka jirta magaalada Muqdisho. Haddalka Yuusuf Indhocadde ayaa ku soo aadaya , kaddib markii isaga iyo rag uu ku jiro maalmo kahor loo diiday inay shirar ay ku qabtaan magaalada Muqdisho si ay u macaaradaan barnaamijka geedi socodka soomaaliya ee Roadmap-ka. Wararka ayaa sheegaya in raga ugu badan ee mucaaradnimada kaga soo horjeeda dastuurka cusub ay yihiin kuwo ka baqaya inay waayaan kuraastooda baarlammaanka , sida uu saxaafada ka sheegay Yuusuf Indhocadde oo si deg deg ah ku bedelay mowqifkiisii hore, kaddib markii uu waayey jid uu kusii mucaarado dowlada, maadaama raga qaswadeyaasha ah loogu hanjabay in talaabo cad laga qaadayo. Qolooyin kale ayaa jira oo danno gaar ah uga soo horjeeda Dastuurka cusub, kuwaas oo gacanta ku haya dhismayaashii shacabka soomaaliyeed iyo dhismoyaal kale oo ah hantida qaranka, wuxuuna dastuurka cusub meesha ka saarayaa danaha shaqsiyaadka doonaya in Muqdisho iyo koonfurta soomaaliya ay ku sii jirto dhibaatada maanta ka taagan.

Kaalay garaadadan habeen walba ma mid baa dhasha, war wuxu tira badanaa.

This is not normal thuggery and theft, this is a message from the Kenyan gov to the somalis to stop supporting Alshabab in Kenya or you'll pay a heavy price. Otherwise why this sudden armed robberies after the Nairobi bombings?.

Carafaat is SOL's own brand of little Qadafi, he sleeps at night and then will wake up in the morning with a blurry vision of contradicts and rants.

sister state MALILAND.

Argentina Olympic ad sparks fury Argentina has risked stirring up political controversy with Britain ahead of the Olympics by broadcasting a video of an athlete training on the disputed Falkland Islands which it describes as "Argentine soil". "To compete on English soil, we train on Argentine soil," is the slogan closing the advert aired on Wednesday night with Fernando Zylberberg of the Argentine men's hockey team on a training run past several landmarks on the British-held islands. Controversy is already raging about the advert, with The Sun's front page on Friday accusing Argentina of "dancing on our graves", referring to Zylberberg using the steps of a British war memorial in his training. Ian Hansen of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly called it "cheap propaganda", while Falklands veteran Simon Weston said the film - which was made without permission from island authorities - was "as low as it gets". Argentines were also reportedly critical, with Buenos Aires newspaper La Nacion saying many see it as a stunt to make political capital by president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner's government. The advert contradicted the government's recent denial that the South American country would seek political gain from the London Games which take place from July 27 to August 12. Argentina claims sovereignty over the islands in the south Atlantic which Argentines call Las Malvinas. The Argentine government has pushed hard for negotiations with Britain this year, the 30th anniversary of Argentina's 1982 invasion of the islands which sparked a short war won by Britain with the loss of more than 900 lives on both sides. The advert was aired on the 30th anniversary of the sinking of Argentine ship the General Belgrano during the war. Zylberberg, who was on the islands last month with many Argentine participants in the Falklands marathon, was filmed doing exercises outside the Globe Tavern in the islands' capital Port Stanley and running past the offices of the Penguin News newspaper. "The idea was to get the message through that the Malvinas are Argentine," Zylberberg told the Cadena 3 radio station in an interview about the clandestinely-filmed advert. "I spent a whole week running on the island. It was an incredible experience because we were surrounded by (Argentine) war veterans," he said. Veterans were on a visit to the islands and some took part in the marathon. Government Sports secretary Claudio Morresi told Reuters in an interview last month: "The Argentine delegation will travel to London with the conviction in their minds and hearts that the Malvinas are Argentine but all they will be going to London to do is take part in the sporting event." Reuters / Eurosport

Xaaji Xunjuf;827483 wrote: Samafal moonlight Somaliland is not interested in federalism confederacy centralism what ever you want to call it and don't mind Carafaat he is just taking for the sake of talking. They made it clear in 1991 nothing less than a full fledged Somaliland republic. Federalism is something the folks in garowe love and so far there is only one federal state in Somalia Puntland the rest of the country is not interested in federalism bal weynu eegi halkay ka degto:D xaaji xunjuf cayaartaas waxaa moodayay inay soo gabagaboowday 27kii february, amaa tan puntland laguu qaataa, the guys in the south are calling for the repeat of your nightmares of centeralization.

Samafal;827471 wrote: Inaalilaahi wa inaa ilaahi raajicuun. Allah u naxariisto Dr Jimcaale. He was a great man with great personality. His book "Ma daganayaasha geeska Africka" was the best Somali book I ever read. Ilaahay Janadii ha ka waraabiyo, ehelkiisana iyo dhamaan dadka Somaliyeedna Allah ha ka samir siiyo. "Ma daganayaasha geeska Africka" I have read that book and its one of the best historic reference books.

Carafaat;827468 wrote: Sxb, my stance was always clear. I oppose secession and I oppose clan States or Federalism as you call it. Neither of them will bring any real tangible results in terms of stability, development, good governance. and your solution is? tell us ABC.

Carafaat;827460 wrote: Sxb, nobody can talk for them besides they themselves. What you are doing is, using others as a legitimacy for something you want yourself. That is ok, but just say you want it. ok I want it. what do you want? you seem to be a naive confused man who doesn't know if he wants somaliweyn or secession or federalism or what. or shall i call it "Jirjiroole" adeer cadeey waxaad rabto, hadal iyo ilkaba waa la cadeeyaa.

Carafaat;827448 wrote: Moonlight, Somaliland's case nor its motivation for 'secession' is based on the Somalia state structure nor 'power sharing'. I doubt if an eventual Union with Somalia would be based on 'federalist' princibles. What else would it be based on then if they drop the secession?. the only other option is con-federalism which gives even more powers than federalism, and even independency referendum. Federalism seems to be the midway logic, its neither centeralized nor con-federalism, its the perfect solution.

AUN Dr Jimcaale. a great man.