Xaaji Xunjuf;988441 wrote: Ma xuma laakin yaa ino af garan. lol MMA can be your translator. I heard this reer waqooyi old guy who took a bus destined to Waqooyi passing through Bakool and Ethiopia, he fall sleep when the bus departed from Xamar and woke up when it arrived in xudur to refuel and have break, some street market girls jumped on the bus selling cigs and sweets shouting "sigaar fadaase, luubaan fadaase, ariiroow fadaase" the old man opened his eyes dazed and confused and said "Waryee, war goormeynu Tanzania so gallay".

Kaluun;988250 wrote: I respect Fowzia because she is my own blood, cousin.... Aljunuun funuun.

Is this another cash machine for Hassan sheekh and crew, or will he be as tough nut as Yusur.

Bashiir Ciise oo horay u ahaa Gudoomiyihii Bankiga Dhexe ee Soomaaliya ayaa mar kale dib xilkaas loogu magacaabay, kadib markii ay is casishay Haweeneydii u horeysay ee xil ka qabata Bankiga Dhexe ee Soomaaliya Marwo Yusuf Abraar oo muddo 7-isbuuc kaliya xilkaas heysay. Magacaabistan ayaa warar kala duwan ay ka soo baxayeen, iyadoo ninkan uu ahaa rug cadaa horay uga soo shaqeeyay nidaamyadii Maaliyada ee dowladii Kacaanka iyo ka hor. Bashiir Ciise ayaa ahaa Gudoomiyaha Bankiga Dhexe xilligii dowladihii KMG ee ay Madaxda ka soo noqdeen Marxuum C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Sheekh Shariif, inkastoo uu is casilay markii ay is qabteen isaga iyo Shariif Xasan oo Wasiirka Maaliyada ka ahaa Xukuumadii Cumar C/rashiid. Waxyaabaha ay isku qabteen ayaa waxaa ka mid ahaa lacagihii Shiling Soomaaliga ee lagu soo daabacayay dalka Sudan, isagoo ku taliyay in aanay habooneyn in lacag la soo daabaco, isla markaana dowladda aysan heysan awood ay ku socodsiiso, ayna keeni karto sicir barar ka dhasha. Warar soo baxaya ayaa sheegaya inuu jiro qorshe la doonayo in kulanka Golaha Wasiirada lagu ansixiyo, inkastoo uu jiro khilaaf u dhaxeeya Madaxweynaha iyo Ra'iisul Wasaaraha, maadaama Madaxtooyada ay magacawday. Wasiirka Maaliyada Soomaaliya Maxamuud Xasan Suleymaan oo ka warbixinayay kulan dhex maray Madaxweynaha iyo Deeq bixiyeyaasha ayaa sheegay in waxyaabaha laga wada hadlay ay ka mid aheyd arrinta Bankiga Dhexe iyo in Gudoomiye KMG ah loo magacaabo. Bashiir Ciise ayaa ka soo jeeda deegaanada Puntland, waxaana uu xilkan Gudoomiyaha Bankiga Dhexe u sii heynaya si KMG ah, kadib markii muddo bil ah aysan Bankigu laheyn wax Gudoomiye ah.

Classified;987514 wrote: 50,000? Are you sure mate? Also, who's responsible for your claims? A regime (consisting of all Somalis) or a single tribe/tribes? When you say "no nation in history...", do you mean nation as in the civilians (all Somali tribes) committing the act together or do you mean by a particular government/regime at the time? Classified sxb hala yaabin ciyaalkan kusoo koray nacaybka reer hebel baa idin dilay. 50,000 is their favourit number. 50.000 !saaq ayaa ku dhintay 1st and 2nd WW 50.000 buu Siyaad Barre inaga dilay. its a good number to remember. and ironically the mijin jaad in SL costs around 50.000 Shilings. anyway goodnight guys, its late here and enjoy this lovely Mr fifty thousands video.

burahadeer;987504 wrote: No nation & I repeat no nation in the history of the Somali race killed more than 50,000 somalis,bombed towns from the air & ground and sent millions into refuge camps as happened the then north. Yes the Brits killed more Somalis, I repeat, just go and read one battle, the battle of Jidbaale where 3000 men perished under the newly developed British machine gun, the first african nation to be bombed by the Brits, hundreds of thousands khatumite and maakhir communities fleeing to Yemen, even some sub clans almost got almost wiped out and are in small numbers today because so many of heir sons were massacred by the Brits, but hey I can understand your twisted logic since you don't consider these people Landers.

burahadeer;987483 wrote: If you look back, no one else but somalis hurt landers more or readyed thm for extermination, Not Ethiopians,British etc. Otha thing why ONLF(OG) took that name based on their clan when there r otha Somalis who share their fate. Why should a lander support thm when he knows he's excluded. you are really a short sighted, hate filled individual. to say that no Ethio nor British hurt Landers is really crazy, but this clearly shows you don't consider other clans like the Khaatumites who suffered under the British colonial rule "Landers", I wonder how the brave Landers who perished in 1964 and 1977 wars would react if they read your post. Yes, the old Somali regime did hurt landers alot, but what has that got to do with Pan-Somalism, Hitler did hijack the noble ideology of Pan-Europianism when he tried to unite Europe by force under his fascist vision, but that did not make the ideology itself bad and after the WW2 with the cost of 60 million deaths Europe came together and formed a civilized Pan-Europe with a single currency and foreign policy, if Siyad Barre messed up Somaliweyn ideology, why you condemn the ideology itself. regional demographic and economics common sense tells us to come together for the sake of our common historic and strategic interest, otherwise me and you will just be an irrelevant Ethiopian junk backyard like tiny Djibouti.

burahadeer;987464 wrote: Ethiopia is one & rest of Somali Galbeed happy with that. shame.. arguing for the unity of your historic enemy while always arguing for the disunity of your people. the psyche of our northern brothers always baffles me. here is a powerful 90 million monster wanting to swallow a weak 9 million neighbor and here comes emotion wrecks like Burahadeer ignoring this fact, come on guys, I am not saying we have to love each other, but common strategic security & interest have to overpower this blind hate.

Spot the difference, if any. Jigjig's statue Muqdisho's statue. they could've come up with some creative efforts rather than copy and paste and old version.

Blackflash;987307 wrote: Why do countries like Norway, with no colonial history outside Europe, allow people to seek refuge from across the world? It will only lead to further friction within their country. and why did the Canadians with no colonial history allowed you to seek refuge in their country?? hypocrisy!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-25036081

............... Plots to mar the existing relationship between the TFG, Puntland, Somaliland and Ethiopia have to be employed Penetration into the armed forces of Puntland and Somaliland has to be made and clan used as an instrument to unfasten the cohesion The heavy and the light weapons used by Puntland and Somaliland armed forces have to be purchased with hard currency in secret deals. If that fails, the custodian of the heavy weapons should be approached with an offer. Cooperation has to be made with criminals and hard currency provided as motivations to assassinate the officials of the administrations (TFG, Somaliland & Puntland) A traditional leader has to be crowned for each and every Sub-clan and the required financial support extended. Religious lectures indirectly influencing the public should be put in full gear Friction with these administrations should be avoided and instead the taxes paid as required Strong allies should be identified within the cabinet of each of the administrations using clan elders and the traditional leaders as an entry point while flexibility is maintained and support provided. Generous support should be given to the Oromo’s and the ONLF to weaken the capability of Ethiopia which is our primary enemy as well as the administrations they are using to pursue their agendas. The minority clans who are marginalized by those administrations should be welcomed and influenced. The Wagerdha’a sub-clan of the ******* should to be supported and hostilities promoted within other sub-clans of the *******. Fully fledged support should be extended to Gen. Morgan as a tool to destroy and disconnect the clan powerbase of the Key leaders who wield significant power within Somalia. The political animosity with the Religious leaders who are in support of those administrations should be minimized. The representatives in Puntland and Somaliland should furnish ideas on how best to restore the Islamic Courts and implements the enlisted decisions. Care has to be maintained all along to avoid leaking of this information Whosoever leaks this information and is found guilty should be shot. Finally, the representatives are advised to employ diplomacy in the execution of this decision and report on the activities progress including what was possible and the resources required. .......... Full version http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Translation_of_Aweis_Letter.doc

if this is true, then this woman will be endangering her self by going back. she knows just too much.

War ay na soo gaarsiiyeen shaqsiyaad diblumaasiyiin ah oo magacooda ka gaabsaday ayaa sheegaya in Yussur Abraar oo dhowaan loo magacaabay Guddoomiyaha bangiga dhexe ee Soomaaliya, iskana casishay xilkaasi markii sida ay sheegtay lagu qasbay in ay saxiixdo dukuminti dowladda Soomaaliya ay ku dalbaneyso in lacagihii bangiyada caalamka u yiilay Soomaaliya lagu soo wareejiyo, iyadoo Yussur ka hortimid dalabkaasi, sheegtayna inay saxiixeyso waraaqahaasi keliya haddii lacagtaasi ay ku soo dhaceyso qasnada bangiga dhexe. War hadda na soo gaaray ayaa sheegaya in Yussur Abraar ay ku sugan tahay Xerada Xalane ee ku dhow Garoonka dayuuradaha, iyada oo ay wehliyaan saraakiil ajnabi ah, waxaana ilaha wararka na soo gaarsiiyeey ay tilmaamayaan in dowlado shisheeye oo aan la carabaabin kuwa ay yihiin in ay la soo xiriireen Madaxweynaha & R/wasaaraha ayna ka dalbadeen n Guddoomiyaha bangiga dhexe loo madax-banneeyo shaqooyinkeeda. Is-casilaada Yussur ayaa dhabar jab weyn ku noqday dowladda Soomaaliya, waxaana iyada oo Dubai-UAE joobta ay sheegtay Yussur in sababaha ay isu-casishay ay ugu weyneyd hanjabaad uga timid xubno qaraaba la ah Madaxweynaha, oo sida ay sheegtay ugu hanjabay in ay dilayaan haddii ay ka dhega-adeegto dalabkooda. Shabakadda Dayniile oo dedaal dheer u gashay si ay u ogaato xogta rasmiga ah ee ku saabsan dib ugu soo laabashada Muqdisho ee Yussur waxey akhristayaasheeda u balanqaadeysaa in ay u soo gudbiso macluumaadka sax ah.

Wiil Cusub;986453 wrote: Xaaji I agree about he is not ethnic lander. ... how do you define an ethnic lander? is a person from Gashamo an ethnic lander? if yes what about an Isse person from Diri Dawa can we consider him a lander, or what about a person from the Garaad sub-clan of Ali Gari in Wardheer, are they considered landers? clarify it plz.

Xaaji Xunjuf;986432 wrote: if some one is spreading hatred and terrorism than he should be locked up no sympathy for terrorists. +1 lets start with xaajiga who calls Godane [AMIIRKA when he strikes havoc in Koonfuria, but when terrorism comes home its a different case. Alkeylu bimikyaaleyn as the arabs say.

Xaaji Xunjuf;986423 wrote: President Hassan is determined to get rid of saacid there is no compromise to reach Hassan knows if saacid stays he can shake it with the international donors the pledge they made will just remain a pledge. Yusra badly damaged the reputation of the government and the President needs to get rid of saacid in order to win the trust of those who backed him from the get to go the International donors of Brussels. The Yusra saga had nothing to do with PM Saacid, it was orchestrated at the Villa with the knowledge of the president, as Yusra her self said it was the president's close aids, and close family who were behind the Shulman-Gate, so why does Saacid has to pay the price, the IC are not a bunch of id!ots, they know halku salaadu iska qabsan la'dahay.

Maalinkasta oo khamiis ah waxaa shir caadi ah isugu yimaada golaha Xukuumadda Federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya, Shirkii maanta oo Khamiis ah ayaa ka duwanaa kuwii hore marka la eego tirada wasiirada fadhiyey, kadib khilaafka u dhexeeya Madaxweynaha iyo Raysalwasaaraha. Shirka maanta waxaa soo xaadirey Golaha Wasiirada oo u badan Wasiiro ku xigeeno iyo Saddex wasiir oo keliya, iyada oo ay magaalada Muqdisho ku sugan yihiin inta badan Golaha Wasiirada ee gaaraya 10 xubnood. Wasiirada shirka ka maqnaa waxaa kamid ah, Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha, Wasiirka Arrimaha Diabdda, Wassiirka maaliyadda, Wasiiru Dowlaaha Madaxtooyada, iyo qaar kale oo badan oo xiriir dhaw la leh Madaxweyne Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud. Madaxweynaha iyo Raysalwasaaraha ayaa isku khilaafsan golaha wasiirada cusub ee la soo dhisaayo, taas oo Madaxweynuhu doonayo in isaga loo gacan baneeyo soo dhisitaanka xukuumadda cusub, iyada oo dastuurku siinaayo raysalwasaaraha oo la tashanaya Madaxweynaha, Waxaana is bedel ku yimid Madaxweynaha oo hadda doonaaya in Raysalwasaaruhu is casilo. Wasiirada aan ka soo qaybgelin fadhigii maanta ayaa la sheegayaa in habeenkii xalay ay kulan la yeesheen raysalwasaaraha isla markaasna ka codsadeen in uu is casilo xukuumadda oo dhana ay halkaas ku bur-burto, xalka keliyana uu taas yahay, waxaana uu u sheegey in u ka soo tashanayo. Wasiirada xiriirka dhaw la leh Madaxweynaha ayaa Raysalwasaaruhu doonaayey in uu meesha ka saaro kuna beddelo kuwo cusub, waxaana uu ku tilmaamey kuwo aan isaga hoos imaan. Si kastaba ha ahaatee cidlada iyo keli ahaanshaha maanta uu shirkii Wasiirada ka dareemey raysalwasaare Saacid ayaa muujinaya sida in badan oo ka mid ah Golaha Wasiiradu ay ula safan yihiin Madaxweynaha. Si kastaba aha ahaatee waxaa la saadaalinayaa in Raysalwasaaruhu is casili doono sida looga bartey sooyaalka siyaasadda Muqdisho. Khalid Yusuf Horseed Media

waa billaabatay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is this the first ethnic war in Somalia? the Jareerweyn guys seem to be getting strong support from somewhere, Alshabaab is accusing AMISOM on orchestrating this war between jareer and jileec. and if that is true I guess amisom will be supporting their bantu brothers.

Tuulooyin cusub oo maanta dab lagu qabadsiiyay Sh.dhexe Wararka laga helaayo gobalka Sh.dhexe ayaa waxa ay sheegayaan in galata dab la qabadsiiyay laba tuulo oo dhacda duleedka magaalada Jowhar ee xarunta gobalkaasi Tuulooyinka la gubay oo kala ah Mareerey iyo Gumarey ayaa la sheegayaa in gubitaankoodu uusan la xariirin dagaaladii hore ee maalmahaan socday ee tuulooyinka lagu gubaayay, waxaana wariyaashu sheegayaan in ay tahay colaad cusub oo ka dhex qaraxday laba beelood oo kale. Wararku waxa ay sheegayaan in uusan dhicin dagaal xilligii la gubayay xaafadahaasi oo gabi ahaanba bas beelay Xaafadaha la gubay dadkii ka bara kacay ayaa la shegayaa in ay ku suganyihiin xilligaan oo ay ku qaxeen Garoonka Diyaaradaha Jowhar gaar ahaan Galbeedka wabiga Shabeelle iyo deegaanka Buurane oo hoos tagta degmada Mahadaay ee isla gobalkaasi. Colaadaan cusub ayaa waxa ay imaaneysaa iyada oo maanta wasiirka arimaha gudaha Soomaaliya uu cadaadis ku saaray odayaasha dhaqanka maleeshiyadii dagaalamay in ay xabad joojin si dhaqsa ah u hir-geliyaan.

cubano;985243 wrote: Why can we not talk about Abdullahi Yusuf book? Abdulahi Yusuf blames the leadership of that time for the war disasters, he extensively details how he succeeded on capturing the southern parts of the Ogad4n region on rout to Addis Ababa, but the northern armies of Diri Dawa and Harar were getting heavy loses due to the Soviet and Cuban direct intervention, if you didn't read the book watch his interview which I posted.

Somali MiGs Ethiopian F-5As

ETHIOPIA VS SOMALIA Also called: The ****** War Years: 1977-1978 Battle deaths: 4,000 [1] Published prior to 2013 | Altered: 2013-08-15 11:43:03 The ****** War was a conventional conflict between Somalia and Ethiopia in 1977 and 1978 over the ****** region of Ethiopia. Fighting erupted as Somalia sought to exploit a temporary shift in the regional balance of power in their favor to occupy the ****** region, claimed to be part of Greater Somalia. In a notable illustration of the nature of Cold War alliances, the Soviet Union switched from supplying aid to Somalia to supporting Ethiopia, which had previously been backed by the United States, prompting the U.S. to start supporting Somalia. The war ended when Somali forces retreated back across the border and a truce was declared. Origins of the war While the cause of the conflict was the desire of the Somali government of Siad Barre to incorporate the Somali-inhabited region of Ethiopia into a Greater Somalia, it is unlikely Barre would have ordered the invasion if circumstances had not turned in his favor. Ethiopia had historically dominated the region. By the beginning of the war, the Somali National Army (SNA) was only 35,000-men strong and was vastly outnumbered by the Ethiopian forces. However, throughout the 1970s, Somalia was the recipient of large amounts of Soviet military aid. The SNA had three times the tank force of Ethiopia, as well as a larger air force. Even as Somalia gained military strength, Ethiopia grew weaker. In September 1974, Emperor Haile Selassie had been overthrown by the Derg (the military council), marking a period of turmoil. The Derg quickly fell into internal conflict to determine who would have primacy. Meanwhile, various separatist movements began throughout the country. The regional balance of power now favored Somalia. One of the separatist groups seeking to take advantage of the chaos was the pro-Somalia Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF) operating in the ******, which by late 1975 had struck numerous government outposts. From 1976 to 1977, Somalia supplied arms and other aid to the WSLF. A sign that order had been restored among the Derg was the announcement of Mengistu Haile Mariam as head of state on 11 February 1977. However, the country remained in chaos as the military attempted to suppress its civilian opponents. Despite the violence, the Soviet Union, which had been closely observing developments, came to believe that Ethiopia was developing into a genuine Marxist-Leninist state and that it was in Soviet interests to aid the new regime. They thus secretly approached Mengistu with offers of aid that he accepted. Ethiopia closed the U.S. military mission and the communications center in April 1977. In June 1977, Mengistu accused Somalia of infiltrating SNA soldiers into the ****** to fight alongside the WSLF. Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, Barre insisted that no such thing was occurring, but that SNA "volunteers" were being allowed to help the WSLF. Course of the war Somalia decided to make a decisive move and invaded the ****** on 23 July 1977. The aggressors numbered 35,000 SNA soldiers and another 15,000 WSLF irregulars. By the end of the month 60% of the ****** had been taken by the SNA-WSLF force, including Gode, on the Shabele River. The attacking forces did suffer some early setbacks; Ethiopian defenders at Dire Dawa and Jijiga inflicted heavy casualties on assaulting forces. The Ethiopian Air Force (EAF) also began to establish air superiority, despite initial numerical disadvantage. The U.S.S.R., finding itself supplying both sides of a war, attempted to mediate a ceasefire. When their efforts failed, the Soviets abandoned Somalia. All aid to Siad Barre’s regime was halted, while arms shipments to Ethiopia were increased. Soviet military advisors flooded into the country, as well as around 15,000 Cuban combat troops. Other Communist countries offered assistance: the People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen offered military assistance and North Korea helped train a "People’s Militia". As the scale of Communist assistance became clear in November 1977, Somalia broke diplomatic relations with the U.S.S.R. and Cuba and expelled all Soviet citizens from the country. The greatest single victory of the SNA-WSLF was a second assault on Jijiga in mid-September, in which the Ethiopian troops mutinied and withdrew from the town. The local defenders were no match for the assaulting Somalis and the Ethiopian military was forced to withdraw past the strategic strongpoint of the Marda Pass, halfway between Jijiga and Harar. By September Ethiopia was forced to admit that it controlled only about 10% of the ****** and that the Ethiopian defenders had been pushed back into the non-Somali areas of Harerge, Bale, and Sidamo. However, the Somalis were unable to press their advantage because of the high level of attrition among its tank battalions, constant Ethiopian air attacks on their supply lines, and the onset of the rainy season, which made the dirt roads unuseable. From October 1977 until January 1978, the SNA-WSLF forces attempted to capture Harar, where 40,000 Ethiopians backed by Soviet-supplied artillery and armor had regrouped with 1500 Soviet advisors and 11,000 Cuban soldiers. Though it reached the city outskirts by November, the Somali force was too exhausted to take the city and was eventually forced to retreat outside and await an Ethiopian counterattack. The expected Ethiopian-Cuban attack occurred in early February. However, it was accompanied by a second attack that the Somalis were not expecting. A column of Ethiopian and Cuban troops crossed northeast into the highlands between Jijiga and the border with Somalia, bypassing the SNA-WSLF force defending the Marda Pass. The attackers were thus able to assault from two directions, allowing the re-capturing of Jijiga in only two days while killing 3000 defenders. The Somali defense collapsed and every major Ethiopian town was recaptured in the following weeks. Recognizing that his position was untenable, Siad Barre ordered the SNA to retreat back into Somalia on 9 March 1978. The last significant Somali unit left Ethiopia on 15 March 1978, marking the end of the war. http://www.war-memorial.net/Ethiopia-vs-Somalia-3.160