Sh jec Qaar ka mid ad reer Hargeysa/Burco ayaba xaq bey u leeeyihiin inay degaankooda yimaadaan oo ey ka taliyaan

Runta laguu sheegay, sabab aad xumaanta ula jeceshay xumaanta ayadoo bil ramadaana la joogo, wax caqliga gali kara maaha, qofka ka xumaanaya midnimada ee muujiyaan hogaanka dadka muslim ka ah (reer sool), magaranayo sida uu wacdi wax uga tarayo Dagaal gobolka Sool waxaa ku soo qaaday Riyaale clan militia, markaa u sheeq Somaliland inay joojiso xadgudubka eek u hayaan reer sool Illaahay dhibaatada aad dadka muslimka la damacsantahay Illaahay haa ka qabto, waxan aad ku riyoonasid in dad dagaal ka dhex dad muslim ah, aanooyn , burbur acudubilaah, war waa ramadaane Illaahay ka baq Puntland baa dagaal kusoo qaaday Sool waa sheeko been ah, Sh Jacaylka ayaana lagaa hayaa, mida kale adi shaqo kuu taala maaha Sida ku cad maqaalkan mowgifka dhamaan hogaanka reer Sool waa mid midaysanyahay, waxeyna isku raacaan inay tahay Somaliland cida dagaal kusoo qaaday Sool, taa adi cid wax kaa weydiinasa majirtu ee haa isku daalin Hogaanku waxey uga digeen militia yada Riyaale inay gardarada qaawan iyo dhibataada ee dadka gobolka ku hayaan inay joojiyaan

Ninkasta waxa uu yahay buu dadka kale moodaa,

Illaahay dhamaan dadka muslim ka ah ha kala badbaadiyo, waxaa kaa muuqata xaasidnimo iyo inaad ka xuntahay inay midoobaan, wax xun dadka muslim ka ah la lama jeclaado waa bil ramadaane, Illaahay ha ku hadeeyo Dadkani waa dad wada dhashay oo fiicnaan baa ka dhexeesa, nabada iyo wada noolaanshaha ayeey aaaminsanyihiin, ayagu cidna kuma xadgudbaan, cidna wax mayeelaan, ee Illaahay daalimiinta iyo gacanta xqda daran ee kusoo duushay Illaahay haa ka qabtu

Garaad Bari, thanks Waa mahad Illaahay in maanta dhamaan isimadii gobolka Sool, inay hal cod oo midaysan la yimaadeen, The leaders and the people of Sool are united and ready to defend their land Sh. Jec, Dadka reer Sool waatashadeen, ee danhaaga haa ka habsaamin

MMA, The Mixed-member proportional has major weaknesses, how ordinary people can can remove unpopular Member of Parliament?

With religious schools debate, secularism hits a war footing - Faith leaders fear anti-Semitism, Islamophobia might eventually cost Catholics their schools October 06, 2007 Stuart Laidlaw Faith and Ethics reporter Tonronto Star An ugly underbelly of discrimination has been exposed by the debate over religious school funding in the current provincial election, entrenching both sides in their positions. And it may end up costing Catholics their schools – at least that's what faith leaders fear. "The underlying prejudices came to the fore," says B'nai Brith executive vice-president Frank Dimant. Conservative Leader John Tory wants to extend funding to faith-based schools in the province if they join the public system. The plan has been attacked by all parties and proven unpopular with most voters, forcing Tory to back off by saying he will allow a free vote in the Legislature if elected. Meanwhile, those who favour such funding now see a greater need for separate schools, while those opposed seem to have hardened their attitudes toward the role of faith in society. Currently, only Catholic schools receive public funding. Schools based on other faiths get no government money, so rely on what are often very high tuition fees, making them inaccessible to many families. Advocates of funding for such schools say it would only be fair, since Catholic schools get public money. All this has led some to question why Catholic boards get any money at all, Dimant says. Oliver Carroll, chair of the Toronto Catholic board, shares Dimant's worries. "This is, if nothing else, a shot across the bow for Catholic education." "This election has shown what people think and to some degree it's a mini-poll on what people would do if they were actually voting on Catholic education tomorrow," Carroll says. "There's hard lessons in it for all of us." M.D. Khalid, chair of the Islamic Schools Association of Canada and a supporter of the Catholic system, is more optimistic, saying the existing separate system is simply too entrenched to dismantle now. "It would be a nightmare if they tried to touch it," he says. Khalid has, however, detected anti-Islamic sentiments in some of election campaign discussions, saying there are still many ill-informed people who associate non-Christian religions with terrorism, violence and suppression of women's rights. A recent poll by Ottawa-based SES Research uncovered growing resistance to accommodating minorities and faith groups in Canada. Only 18 per cent of those polled felt cultural and religious groups should be totally accommodated, while 53 per cent said such groups should not be catered to. The rest fell somewhere in between. That sentiment was strongest in Quebec, where an election earlier this year brought questions of "reasonable accommodation" into focus. SES president Nik Nanos says the debate over faith-based schools in Ontario has ignited the debate here, as well. Most people are willing to make accommodations for others here and there, but are beginning to question just how much ought to be done. "We're getting to a particular tipping point where people are beginning to wonder where all the incremental changes are taking us," Nanos says. Khalid has played host to several public and Catholic high-school students on field trips and says that whatever misconceptions the students arrive with, they leave with a greater understanding of Islam and a higher level of tolerance. That, Khalid says, bodes well for the pro-funding side of the argument as it attempts to keep the issue alive after the election, whoever wins on Wednesday. The key to overcoming people's fears, he says, is to teach them that they have nothing to worry about in helping pay for religious schools. "It's a lack of education that's feeding this phobia," he says. Nanos, however, warns that Khalid may have his work cut out for him. Another recent SES poll found that 51 per cent of Ontario voters felt that funding for religious schools would lead to more segregation in the province. Only 13 per cent of those polled felt it would have no impact on the current school system. This election has put the question of faith-based funding on the public agenda, Nanos says, where he expects it to stay for a long time yet. "We will look back on this as the faith-based funding election."

Support faith schools PETER AND CATHY VAN DEN BERG We would like to address the issue of funding independent faith-based schools. We are parents who have our children attend Christian schools. Under the current system, Ontario collects taxes from all of us and uses some of this money to fund our public and Catholic schools. There are, however, many independent faith-based schools that do not receive any of this money, even though all of the families that send their children to these schools are taxpayers. Putting it simply, Ontario supports educational choice for some parents of one faith, but leaves no choice for other faith communities. The Supreme Court of Canada has acknowledged this as discrimination. The United Nations has twice cited Canada to be in violation of civil liberty agreements it signed because of Ontario's practice of funding only one type of faith based education. Six other Canadian provinces have recognized this inequality and injustice and are supporting educational choice for the parents. Furthermore, there is a growing body of evidence showing that expanded public education that includes more faith-based choices is more effective and efficient for all students including in our public schools. Peter and Cathy van den Berg Gorrie, Ont.

Decades of injustice corrected with funding (Oct 5, 2007) I am happy and relieved to see a major political party once again raising the issue of fairness in educational funding. This can only be a good thing for all of education. First, it rectifies decades of injustice, as confirmed by the United Nations, to a number of Ontario citizens and their children. Dalton McGuinty's constant fear mongering aside, the practice of funding faith-based schools will not, in fact, take any money away from the public and Catholic school systems. These schools are funded on a per student basis and if each one of the 50,000 students currently enrolled in faith-based schools were to enroll in the public school system the public school system would find a way to accommodate them. Clearly the money exists. This is because parents of students attending faith-based schools pay education taxes. Thus the funds already exist, and have for many, many years, to properly fund each student in Ontario. In addition, at least six other provinces already practice some form of funding for faith-based schools and their social fabric seems to be in good repair. Making the public education umbrella a larger one will ensure that all students in Ontario are taught by qualified teachers and that all students in Ontario get an education that meets or exceeds the same standards as the current public and Catholic systems. Accountability is a good thing, even necessary. So why all the fuss? Joanne Greidanus Ancaster

West challenged by one of its own Outspoken convert to Islam says she's still a feminist, but critics can't see past the hijab RON CSILLAG special to the star September 29, 2007 Once a hard-nosed, hard-drinking Fleet Street reporter, Yvonne Ridley today is a proud, pious and unapologetic Muslim. Islam is "the biggest and best family in the world," she says, but deeply misunderstood. The 48-year-old London-based journalist and political activist brought her campaign against the West and its war on terror to Canada this month, visiting Toronto, Waterloo and Montreal to speak at fundraising dinners for the Canadian Islamic Congress. "I've always been a fighter for women's rights. I still am. I'm still a feminist, except now I would say I'm an Islamic feminist. I have been supporting the Palestinian cause for three decades now. That hasn't changed. What has changed are people's perceptions of me. "As soon as I put on a hijab, it was like, `Oh my God, she's a radical. She an exremist.' And suddenly, I moved from being a journalist to a Muslim activist." But her visit here inflamed critics. B'nai Brith Canada, protesting she's a "terrorist sympathizer" whose views are "extremist and dangerous," called for her talks to be monitored by police. Ridley has been called an Islamist dupe and an apologist for terrorism. Remarks attributed to her include a reference to Jewish critics as "those nauseating little Zionists who accuse me of being an anti-Semite" and a characterization of London cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, who is serving a seven-year prison sentence for soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred, as "quite sweet, really." Asked prior to her Toronto talk to comment, she denies nothing. Those reported remarks "are regurgitated by people who have an agenda against me," she tells the Star. Yes, she called al-Masri sweet, but "that was part of a one-hour, 20-minute talk in which he was featured for about 30 seconds." She was quoted "totally out of context," she says. "It would be like you looking at Hitler and saying, `Apparently, he was a very gifted artist and I looked at his work and it moved me.' The next thing you know, you pick up the paper and somebody is saying, `Oh God, that man said Hitler was gifted and he was moved by him.'" Ridley blames journalists, always out for a juicy sound bite. "This is the trouble with the media. I'm not having a go at you," she says, "but you do try and simplify issues....If you tell me what story you've been told to get and what headline you need, then I'll try and help you." Would she characterize a Muslim who calls for violence as un-Islamic or radical? "Historically," Ridley points out, "violence has worked." The Irish Republican Army "bombed their way to the negotiating table." And the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel by the Irgun, pre-state Israel's Jewish militia, was "a defining moment in the British army's desire to get the hell out of Jerusalem." There's no difference, Ridley says, "between a suicide bomber and a Stealth bomber because they both kill innocent people. And the death of innocent people is always to be condemned." Ridley's extraordinary journey to her present activism began just after the 9/11 attacks when, as a reporter for Britain's Daily Express (which calls itself "The World's Greatest Newspaper"), she donned a burqa and sneaked into Afghanistan to cover the war on terror. At the time, she was an Anglican who attended church about twice a month, "which in Britain, is regarded as fanatical." She had a knowledge of Islam "you could probably write on the back of a postage stamp, and it was incorrect." Her assignment finished, she was making her way out of Afghanistan when the Taliban discovered she had camera tucked beneath her robes. Held and interrogated for 10 days in Jalalabad and Kabul, she was released after promising her captors that she would read the Qur'an. She kept her word and read the Qur'an. In 2003, she converted to Islam. Ridley, who wears a black hijab and jilbab, or floor-length cloak, prays fives daily, eschews alcohol, and bristles at suggestions she represents a textbook case of Stockholm Syndrome, a psychological condition in which the captive empathizes with her captor. "That comes from people who cannot accept that a Western woman has rejected what they see as Western values (in order) to embrace Islam," she says. The Taliban have been "demonized beyond recognition, because you can't drop bombs on nice people." But "I did not bond with my captors," she says. "I spat at them. I swore at them. I threw things at them. I was aggressive. I was rude (and) obnoxious. I was the prisoner from hell." But what about her conversion? Has she compromised her journalistic objectivity by embracing the philosophy of her captors? "I didn't embrace the philosophy of my captors," is the crisp reply. "My captors were the Taliban, and (they) have a very specific type of doctrine. And I didn't embrace that. "I embraced Islam. I embraced what I consider to be pure Islam." Ron Csillag is a freelance writer. Email: living@thestar.ca

Ontario democracy fails faith-based test of maturity Haroon Siddiqui TheStar.com - columnists October 07, 2007 Dalton McGuinty was stumped by "sharia" and John Tory by his promise to fund all faith-based schools. Both were undone by public unease with Muslims and Islam, blatant in the first instance, implicit yet not all that hidden in the second. The losers aren't really Muslims. It is the Christians and Jews, who had been doing religious arbitration since 1991, who lost that right when McGuinty, faced with a furor over extending the same right to Muslims, cancelled it for all. Now Protestant, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh and other faith schools may pay the price for fear of Muslim schools being funded. I oppose both religious-based arbitration and funding for faith-based schools. But regardless of your position, think about this: When a mature democracy like ours cannot debate issues in a rational manner, we all have a problem. Not all opposition to funding religious schools is driven by bigotry. But much of it is, as candidates from the election trenches attest. Tory's frustration at not being heard out is thus understandable. The issue, while not complicated, offers no "right" answers, as the following arguments show. * Let's not "segregate" our kids. But we already do, by religion (Catholic), language (French or English), gender (all-boys, all-girls schools, albeit private), subjects (alternative schools for arts, sports, etc. within the public system). * Public schools, the common cathedral for children of diverse backgrounds, make them Canadian. Are students emerging from Catholic schools less Canadian? * Public schools help integrate immigrant kids, thereby contributing to our multicultural success. But Catholic immigrants (more a third of the new arrivals) send their kids to Catholic schools. Are those children less integrated? * Spending $400 million on faith-based schools would weaken/destroy the public school system. But in the six provinces that do fund faith-based schools, public schools have not crumbled. In fact, Alberta, which has the most privatized schools and offers the most competition, is touted as having the nation's best system. Plus, it is strange to argue that funding 675,000 students in Ontario Catholic schools has not destroyed the public system but funding another 53,000 would. Implicit in that argument is the notion that Catholics, whom we didn't trust at one time, are now acceptable but Jews, Hindus and Sikhs are not. Or that they all are but Muslims are not. Opposition to abortion, gay marriage and women priests from Catholics can be tolerated, but not from orthodox Jews, Muslims and others. This is not a sustainable proposition in a democracy. * Muslim schools can't be trusted to teach Canadian values and may even turn out terrorists. The 18 people charged in the Toronto area for terrorism-related charges (now down to 15) are products of public schools. So were the 2005 British subway bombers. So are the 100 or so awaiting terrorism trials in Britain and Germany. Also, some of the best academic results are found in Islamic schools, both in Britain and Canada. Are there some bad Islamic schools, with poor standards and antediluvian attitudes? Sure. But they aren't the only ones. Even if they are, it'd be better to bring them under state supervision by extending funding with strings attached: qualified teachers, standardized tests and provincial inspections. That's what Britain is doing and that's what Tory is suggesting. * Funding only Catholic schools is not right but it's a historical anomaly we have to live with. No, we don't. We could fund all or none. The latter would need Parliamentary approval, as Newfoundland and Quebec obtained. This leaves us with the "Not Now" argument. That's a position of principle or a not-so-clever dodge. "Not Now" because we will deal with it in the calmer post-election period. Or "Not Now" because we'd rather procrastinate and hope it would go away. It won't. Muslim bashing will take us only so far, and not far enough. MMP: I'm for it. It promises to make the system more democratic and the Legislature more representative. It can increase citizen engagement, especially among the young. The danger of minority governments is surely overstated: The Trudeau minority (1972-74) and the David Peterson one (1985-87) produced great legislation. Haroon Siddiqui, the Star's editorial page editor emeritus, appears Thursday in World & Comment and Sunday in the A section. hsiddiq@thestar.ca

Where else but in Canada? by Mohamed Elmasry (Saturday, October 6, 2007) "Today, it would seem that the civilizations of East and West, or the Muslim and non-Muslim world, have become reversed. But perhaps it is more a case of having forgotten those former glories in the pursuit of present-day materialism and political agendas. A re-discovery and renewed appreciation of Muslim accomplishments would benefit all of humanity, allowing us to see -- and hopefully resolve -- present conflicts within the wider spectrum of human history." In Canada, Islam has not yet developed a truly national form of social and religious culture; it is rather a work-in-progress. But where else, except in Canada, will you find North America’s oldest mosque -- still standing, preserved as a national heritage site in Edmonton, Alberta? Where else, except in Canada, will you find the world’s first mosque with a multi-function gymnasium? This modern facility is used for events such as basketball games and sports tournaments, school graduations, fashion shows, or lectures - but on Fridays it becomes a place of prayer. Where else, except in Canada, will you find university classrooms which have just been used for lectures in mathematics and computer science, converted on Fridays into prayer halls? Where else in the Western world, except in Canada, will you find the highest per capita number of Muslim Members of Parliament and Senators? Where else, except in Canada, will you find so many mosques and churches sharing each other’s parking lots? And where else but in Canada will you hear the largest Protestant church in the country publicly declare that Muslims worship the same God that Christians do? So who else, but Canadian Muslims, would originate the world's first Islamic History Month? And they did! All of these facts are Canadian realities, yet if questions about identity and self-definition still occupy a prominent place in the minds of our citizens, these issues pose an even greater challenge to Canada’s Muslims. While Muslims are a small minority here (under 3 per cent of the total population), they are still the largest non-Christian minority in the country, comprising a wide variety of immigrants from some 40 different national, linguistic and ethnic backgrounds. And over 50 per cent of Canada’s 750,000 Muslims (2007 figures) are Canadian-born. Muslim identity in Canada has been influenced in two major ways; first, there is the country itself -- a nation with a comparatively young history (140 years in 2007), occupying a huge and ruggedly diverse land-mass – and secondly, by the self-perceptions of its Muslim immigrants. A Muslim in the U.S. is usually identified as a Black Muslim; in France, a North African; in Britain, an East Indian or Pakistani; and in Germany, a Turk. These designations reflect the predominant origin of Muslims in each of those countries. But that is not so in Canada, where Muslims have arrived from all over the world and from very diverse cultures. Here, in our unique and dynamically challenging environment, the Canadian Muslim is just that -- a Canadian Muslim. Whether they form a minority or majority segment of society, Muslims historically have been able to create localized Islamic cultures suitable for their region of settlement. This has resulted over time in distinct Islamic societies that developed among Arabs, Africans, Persians, East Indians, Malays, Chinese, Russians, and Turks. On the Indian subcontinent, for example, Muslims form a minority of some 400 millions. That’s a very large minority, yet a minority nonetheless. But it didn’t stop Indian Muslims from building one of the world's greatest cultures, highlighted by such imposing architectural monuments as the world-famous Taj Mahal. And Muslim culture similarly imprinted its distinct character on other areas, like Spain and Eastern Europe. Now it is Canada’s turn to celebrate the Islamic legacy. Islamic History Month Canada is a new and unprecedented initiative developed to respond proactively to the multicultural, multiethnic and multifaith nation that we have become. Beginning in October 2007, it is hoped that all Canadians will share in this annual recognition of the nation’s largest non-Christian faith group. Islamic heritage does not belong only to Canadian Muslims; it belongs to all Canadians. For more than 1,000 years, the contributors to Islamic civilization were of different ethnic backgrounds, including African, Asian and European. They were numerous men and women who were often adherents of different faiths; most would never even have known that they were helping to make history. Many of their names and accomplishments have faded with the passage of time, but their collective story has not been forgotten. Now there will be an annual opportunity, every October, to experience another chapter of the Islamic story. Islamic History Month Canada will also enhance our ties, both economically and culturally, with Muslim countries around the world. In the words of IHMC’s Honourary Chair, Senator Mobina Jaffer: "Canada's national cultural heritage is the sum total of the way Canadians from every background and every walk of life identify and express themselves. Islamic civilization does not belong only to Muslim Canadians, but to all Canadians. In fact, for more than 1,000 years (about 600 AD through 1600 AD), Muslims made significant contributions to the well-being of humanity in numerous fields of endeavour. There are so many good stories to share and new learnings to experience; we intend to do all that, and more, during Islamic History Month Canada." Today, it would seem that the civilizations of East and West, or the Muslim and non-Muslim world, have become reversed. But perhaps it is more a case of having forgotten those former glories in the pursuit of present-day materialism and political agendas. A re-discovery and renewed appreciation of Muslim accomplishments would benefit all of humanity, allowing us to see -- and hopefully resolve -- present conflicts within the wider spectrum of human history. Where else but in Canada?

NGONGE, You wish that people of Sool, Sanaag, and Cayn were divided, that’s a wishful thinking Don’t think Mansa or any other person from SSC will listen to your biased and hypocritical comments, Mansa want people of SSC to join together and defend their land from the invaders We all know that in 1988 at height of the northwest civilwar, almost all the leaders of so-called Somaliland were working for Siyaad regime, some of these opportunist politicians is Daahir Rayaale (who was a senior NSS officer), Faysal Waraabe (who was a spy), C/raxmaan Cirro (who was somali diplomat in Moscow), even Egal (former president of Somaliland)was working for Siyad at that time, And of course there was thousands of soldiers from Hargeysa/Burco/Berbara clan who were part of somali army in 1988, fighting alongside the Somali army in Northwest region against the tribal faction of snm In all wars there are causalities, if people of Sool stand up to defend their land, I don’t think the causalities will more then other civil wars in Somalia for the last 20 years, In Mogadishu, there is politicians and militias from Mogadishu itself that support both TFG/Ethoipia and Courts/Eritrea, Ethiopia and Eritrea both are fighting proxy war, how many people die in Somalia? As result this war Of course, thousands In Iraq, there is both sunnis, shias, kurds who support America, and some are against the American occupation, There will always be some opportunist individuals who themselves politicians and ignorant young men hired as militia who only care about self-interest and not the interest of the people and the region In the colonial era, there were people working for the British and French imperialists as representatives and soldiers in all countries of the world To accuse people from Laascaanood of a foolishness is irrational and silly , just shows that NGONGE is suffering from an extreme degree of bigotry and tribal hatred toward some Somali regions

Red Sea That comment must have hurt Sh. Jac and NOT Duke What the sister said is that Laascaanood is part of country called Somalia; keep in mind that Puntland state is as well part of that country (Somalia).

Somali thinker, Since you were claiming that Somaliland captured Laascaanood in the latest battle few day ago, why don't you provide us pictures to prove, Duke doesn't have to provide pictures, because from Puntlans's side, Laascaanood is still under the Puntland's rule Why do you need pictures? Of course, it was lie and daydream that Riyaale clan militia captured Laascaanood, beeni lug malaha horaa loo yidhi

Garyaqaan Well said, Laascaanood is an integral part of United Somalia

“setting up boundaries” A perfect example of wishful thinking, only individuals with qabyaalad views talk about imaginary borders

S T, Some from Hargeysa/Burco say the presence of Somali National army in Hergeysa/Burco in 1980s was occupation, If they today Cabdulaahi Yusuf invades Burco/Hargeysa, I am sure you will say its another occupation by sayadist group, that’s the truth I am not advocating for war against people of Hargeysa/Burco, its for people of northwest to decide who should rule Hargeysa/Burco, in contrast you who passionately support the aggression of Riyaale’s clan militia against the people of Sool, Sanaag & Cayn because qabiil hatered Every decent Somali should advocate for unity, that’s simple Its fact that people of northwest don’t want Darwishland/Puntland to takeover Hergeysa/Burco, same is true that people of Sool,sanaag&Cayn don’t want so-called Somaliland to takeover their land SSC. Somali thinker, you really need to think and use your Brian, its people like you who blindly support the aggression of their clan militia to invade neighboring regions, that’s why today Somalia is still in a civil war.

Originally posted by SomaliThinker: because form this logic if Somaliland said it would stay in the Unoin then would the people of Sool have no issue of being under somaliland, I dont think so! You have admitted yourself, that people of Sool are against so-calledSomaliland, its good thing that you realized the fact finally, no one can force people of Sool to be under occupation Even if the secessionist entity accept the reality that United Somalia is the way forward,it is true people of Sool,sanaag&Cayn don’t want to be part of so-called Somaliland “region”, just like how people of Hargeysa/Burco don’t want to be part of Darwiishland or Puntland. People of Sool will defend their land against Riyaale’s clan militia

Red sea, Of course, people of SSC should defend their land against invaders All sub-clans of Sool, Sanaag & Cayn are against Riyaale’s clan militia and secession notion You are grossly unfair and bias saxib nothing personal about that, but you want to blame the victim – the people of sool, that’s adding insult to injury Also,we should blame people of Hargeysa/Burco, for sending their children to die in Laascaanood because of fictional borderline Its dishonest to say that people of Sool are with both sides, its like Bush saying that he is helping Iraqi people because Iraqi people are with America, when only Bush hired few opportunist politicians and some militia I think its unfair for anyone to blame people of Sool let alone Hargeesaawi/Burcaawi because of the conflict of interest factor, Why Palestine & Iraq is occupied? Is it because Iraqi/Palestinian are more divided, when compared to other Arab countries Why western Somalia is occupied? Is it because Somali people of western Somalia are more divided, when compared to other regions Somali regions In 1988, there was opportunist politicians like Daahir Rayaale (who was a senior NSS officer), Faysal Waraabe (who was a spy), C/raxmaan Cirro (who was somali diplomat in Moscow), even Egal was working for Siyad at that time, And of course there was thousands from from Hargeysa/Burco who were part of somali army in 1988, fighting alongside Somali army Few opportunist politicians and a paid militia should never be an excuse There no way one can justify the aggression of Riyaale’s Clan militia against the people of Sool

You believed qabiil propaganda, Its not time to celebrate yet, war is not good for no one Arrintu kow majoogtu

Red sea, You arguing that you are trying to be like Duke by posting all sorts of crap just from different clan site, that’s strange really You should be fair and just as well your argument is irrational saxib, For example,this is your logic, how about if some militia from Laascaanood invades Burco, and we say that its locals vs locals, the locals supported by both Hargeysa/Laascaanood on each side, If we are blaming Laascaanood for supporting one, we should equally blame Hargeysa militia for the same doing? Is that fair you think? yes some opportunist politicians are with Somaliland, just like some Somaliland politicians are with TFG, Yes Somaliland hired some militias from Sool just like Americans are hiring Iraqi troops. But nothing could be further from the truth that 99 % people of Sool, Sanaag & Cayn are against Riyaale militia and the ill-advised secession notion, people of Sool, Sanaag & Cayn will fight for their freedom and liberate their land against Riyaal and his secessionist militia Some in northwest region claim that they fought for freedom in 1980s, well people of Sool, Sanaag, & Cayn are as also ready to fight for their freedom P.S. If a war occurs in any Somali town/region God forbid, I would never post qabiil propaganda like some did that Laascaanood is occupied a obvious lie, especially in Ramadan. Its more appropriate to make to Duca for muslim people, if one supports his clan militia , he/she should at least remain silent, they Say silence Is Gold

Red sea, Somaliland iyo Puntland midna wax uma hayo dadka reer laascaanood Dhamaan beelaha Laascaanood waa kasoo wada horjeedaan militia riyaale iyo cid kasta oo wadanka kala qeybinasa Dhamaan dadka soomaaliyeed waxey dani ugu jirtaa midnimo iyo in gacmaha la is qabsadu, waa hadii dan laga hadlayo Hadii kale ninkasta xaq ayuu u yahay inuu xor noqdo oo cidii uu doona wax la qabsadu, maaha xaq in magaalo soomaaliyeed dagaal lagu qaado

Red sea, Bal nin kale Illahay baa la xisaabtamaya, aduu Ramadan da haa iska khaasaareen 99% of people of Sool, Sanaag, and Cayn are against Somaliland militia and secession, that’s undisputable fact I don’t think that Laascaanood is in hands of Somaliland, that’s just not true Even if Somaliland militia occupies Laascaanood, I am confident that sooner or later people of Laascaanood will fight back for their freedom and liberate their land from occupiers, Having few prisoners from the other side doesn’t mean nothing, this is not the first time that Somaliland or Puntland claim war prisoners Its very early to know who gained the upper in this war, the clan propaganda from qabilist websites is meaningless Its Ramadan, no one should advocate for a war between muslim people Red sea ,I don’t understand why should you advocate for war in Laascaanood? Especially when it’s Ramadan Why you think of your hometowns Hergeysa/Burco? you don’t like if some militia from another regoin to occupy your hometowns

Red sea, Originally posted by Muj: Red Sea: I am sadened to say not a single clan from our neighbors(somali waqooyi and Puntland)that sent an Ergo to sort of try to ease the tension. whenever two sub clans from same clan in either sool or sanaag fight, ergo from somaliland is there instantly. Above statement was directed to a specific regions/clans and not supporters of a particular political faction. Therefore, I believe it was very important to highlight that people of somali woqooyiga dhexe and Bari (Puntland) have also helped their brothers from Somaliland in their time of need Garaad Abduqani was one of the few people who publicly condemned the Siyaad government over the handling of northwest region; he even risked his life to meet with SNM leaders secretly. As a Garaad Guud and a leader of Sool Sanaag, & Cayn he led peace delegations to mediate between Egal & Tuur to end the northwest (Somaliland) civil war of 1994-1996. Somalis from Somaliland (Northwest) as well helped their bothers from Puntland & SSC, true it was Boqor Buurmadow who led peace delegation as well to mediate between Yusuf and Cadde and end the Puntland civil war of 2001. There was elders from Buuhoodle and Puntland who went to Daroor to bring peace between the sub clans of Daroor, and there was as well elders from Daroor and Somaliland who went to Buuhoodle to bring peace between the sub clans of Buuhoodle. Since time immorial, the elders of somali clans were known to help other clans solve their internal conflicts, waa dhaqan soomaaliyeed oo soo jireen ah, wax cusub maaha Markaa Illaahay haa ka abaal mariyo qofkasta oo dad muslim ah oo walaalaa ah kala badbaadiya Isimada waxgardaka Buuhoodle oo hawlo nabad raadis ah u aadaya Deegaanka daroor (Buuhoodle, Feb 19 2007, Ceegaag Online) Iyadoo labadii todobaad ee la soo dhaafay ay dagaalo xun labo beelood oo is baahaysi wada ah ku dhex marayeen deegaanka Daroor ee Kilinka Shanaad ee soomaalida Ethopia ayaa waxaa hadda halkaasi u ambabaxaya isimo iyo Odayaal reer Buuhoodle ah oo si weyn looga qadariyo deegaanda soomaalida, si ay waanwaan ugu dhex galaan labada dhinac. Amababxa waxgaradkan oo la filayo inuu hirgalo maanta ilaa berrito ayaa ka dambeeyey dhowaan markii ay Isimada iyo odayaasha buuhoodle ay Baaq nabadeed u jeediyeen dhinacyada halkaasi ku dagaalamaya. Waxa kale oo Dhowaan Buuhoodle soo gaadhay baaqyo ay soo direen dhinacyada ku dagaalamaya deegaanka daroor, baaqyadas oo ay kaga dalbadeen waxgaradka Buuhoodle inuu soo kala gaadho si loo joojiyo Colaadda halkaasi ka holcaysa. Maxamed Sulub Abyan Buuhoodle, Cayn DIRIRTII DAROOR OO HESHIIS LAGA GAADHAY Dadkaas oo aan ku koobnayn Somaliland, balse, ay dhinac walba ka kal yimaadeen Jig-jiga, Bari, Buuhoodle, Somaliland-na, kuwaas oo u badheedhay dhibta iyo hawsha badan ee meesha ka jirtay. Runtiina tallaabadii ay qaadeen guul bay kala kulmeen, waayo? Mar haddii xabbad-joojin iyo nabad labadii ay doonayeen la siiyay, wixii dambe ee wax qaba ahna, iyagaa laga sugayaa, waanan u mahad-celinaya ergada.” …. Dhinaca kale, waxa suldaanka oo ka hadlayey xubniaha ergooyinka ah ee deegaanka Darroor tegay oo tiradood aad u badnayd, waxa uu tilmaamay in laga xuli doono tiro kooban, oo noqon doonta ta ka garnaqi doonta tabashooyinka labada dhinac iyo dhibaatada kala gaadhay. Waxaanu yidhi; “Ergada Buuhoodle Suldaan Siciid ayaa hoggaaminayey, qolada Jig-jigana waxa hoggaaminayey nin Sheekh ah oo ah madaxa golaha Islaamka ee Killka [killka 5-aad ee itoobiya], Sheekh Cumar baana la yidhaahdaa.