Great News Khayr badan baa Mogadishu kasoo socda insha allah

Originally posted by Gediid: Che Tik tak meri bhai, aab ke se Me Well said.As for getting even the extreme of them lot in, I think it would be easier to simply over run them with brute force cuz somali horey u tidhi Dofaar abidkii ma daahiro, and qabyaalad nin yaqaan will never turn a new leaf unless aad maskaxdiisa transplant ku sameysid but lets hope for the best..... Well said also I agree with both you, to think out of the dark box (qabiil), and loyalty to ruthless warlords

Illaahay ha u naxariistu marxuumka amiin

Originally posted by me: Gediid the wadaads can liberate all Somali territories according to me. Aways telling the Ethio's to handover Western Somalia was a great moment, the first Somali leader in ages to be that brave. If the wadaads are planning to UNITE all of Somalia. Then why not support them. They are as Somali as any other faction, plus they seem like an attractive option. -United country -Unitary system -Anti-corruption -They would also resist Ethiopian meddling in our affairs -Pro-business -And ruthless when it comes to law enforcement Well the wadaads are not a bad option and they would be a more attractive option if they mixed some more nationalism with that Islamism. And them showing a more diverse face in their leadership would appeal to all Somali groups. I am waiting for their grand plan for Somalia. Well said thanks me

First, people of northwest are Muslim Somali people like their fellow brethren Somalis Therefore I am confident that no sane somali person whether he is from northwest/northcentral/ or south would even think about the possibility of Somali administration to have involvement with Israel, because that is a betrayal to Muslim ummah Obviously, Egal letter is a fake, but the dangerous ideas that few individuals like Faysal Diriye in Ottawa, and Rashid Nur in USA are circulating is outrageous and offensive to Somali people, and muslims in general Definitely, its unacceptable and intolerable for Israel to have diplomatic relations with any Somali administration, let alone having military bases in Somali soil whether its south west north or east Red sea, your rational comments were the most healthy and constructive in this entire debate Qudhac and Odweyne discuss in good manner like red sea, offensive words or name calling is not helping to put across your views

Zidane needs anger management classes

A new SYL might be taking shape beyond Somali shores Ali H. Abdulla July 2nd, 2006 There is no doubt that 26th June and 1st July were celebrated in many parts of the world to commemorate the independence of the Northern and Southern parts of Somalia and their subsequent union. The term union is misleading since Somalis were united long before the colonialists interfered in their affairs and divided their country into areas of influence against their wishes. I have been fortunate enough to attend one of these celebrations in Dubai, the commercial capital of the UAE. The celebrations brought together hundreds of Somali residents of the UAE who flocked to Dubai from all parts of the seven emirates. The National theatre in Dubai that seats around 700 people was filled to capacity. Many Somali dignitaries including businessmen and politicians attended the celebration. The ambassador of Somalia to the UAE, his Excellency Huseen Bulaale and his Excellency Awad Cashara, a member of the Somali Transitional Federal Parliament, two northern politicians, were the guests of honor. The unique blue flag and its symbolic five-edged star graced the stage and the celebrations were kicked off with the Somali national anthem that brought the audience to their feet. They joined the lead singer, Salem Ahmed Salem, a fourth generation Somali whose ancestors emigrated from Yemen. It was a moving experience that prompted the Somali Ambassador to thank the singer for his exquisite and moving performance. Normally one listens to the music of the anthem or the first few notes, but this was the complete anthem and it filled the audience with pride and joy. You may have been wondering which of the two occasions the event celebrated, the 26th of June or the 1st of July. Actually it celebrated both occasions on the 29th of June, 2 days after 26th June and 2 days before 1st July, a brilliant compromise devised by those who organized the event. I wish that Somali politicians were smart enough to learn from the organizers of this event the meaning of the word compromise, a word that seems to be missing from their lexicon. The celebration was opened with verses from the holy Quran recited by a young Somali who appropriately chose the verses that urge all Muslims to unite and become one, a fact often ignored by proponents of secession and division. His style and recitation reminded me of famous names like Abdul Baset. The event was packed with patriotic songs; short plays; Somali folk dances; and a Somali fashion show featuring slender and beautiful Somali girls who displayed different Somali dresses and hairstyles. Some of the plays were in Arabic and they addressed the many ills Somalia suffers from, like tribalism, Qaat, brain drain etc. The event was organized by a group of young Somalis who are in their early and late twenties. Most of them were born in the UAE and may have never seen their country. The one thing that unites them is their love for their people and their motherland. Their parents come from different parts of Somalia and they have vowed to shun clan and regional affiliations. Their ancestors are from the North and the South and their motto is one people, one country. Their chosen name is Somali Youth Committee, SYC, a name that reminds one of the Somali Youth League, SYL, a movement that symbolized Somali independence and unity. The SYC is not a political organization and is an unofficial grouping of young, educated and professional Somali Youth who work with all Somali Communities in the UAE that are officially recognized by the UAE government such as the Somali Cultural and Social Center in Abu Dhabi. They support these communities to organize social, educational and cultural events. They have an elected chairman who changes every six months. The current chairman is an energetic and affable young lady. Among the talented professionals in the group is a young Somali dentist who is a gifted composer. She composed a short Arabic play tilted “Good Morning Somaliaâ€, a hilarious portrayal of the current Somali situation. The group is not a transient phenomena like many Somali efforts in the Diaspora; its members have organized Somali independence and unity parties for the third time in a row and they keep getting better every time. These celebrations are part of the cultural activities that they sponsor throughout the year. It gives me hope to know that there are young people who believe in the unity of Somalia without being influenced by their parents. Many parents who fled Somalia to the West still suffer from the ugly disease of tribalism that destroyed their country and they inject this disease into their kids. After reading a short article that I wrote about tribalism, a young boy sent me an email in which he told me that he lost some of his friends when they found out that he was from a clan different from theirs. It was a sad email that should remind all Somali parents that they might be poisoning the minds of their kids when they recite the glories of their clans in front of them. By now, we should all have realized that there is no glory in clans and divisions. Glory can only come from unity, patriotism and nationhood. These are the things that are worth fighting and dying for. My salute and thanks goes to the SYC in the UAE for rekindling my hopes for a united, democratic and prosperous Somalia. Their efforts symbolize the light at the end of the tunnel for Somalia, a light that has eluded it so far. Ali H. Abdulla

Duke I am blaming the whole administration/apparatus; I cannot only blame individuals when that’s how the system works! Of course individuals are also guilty by association with the corrupt administrations. Bosaso and Garowe might have the same problem in lesser degree, but the Sool problems have a political dimension, now that’s the impression of the people of Sool

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^ Saxib, If the people of SOOL, SANAG and CAYN want to go it alone, no problem, if they want to stay with Puntland no problem, if they want to go with Somaliland no problem. Every clan has a right to its own territory, like anyone else. For now they are part of Puntland, as of choice. Your remarks that Puntland causes mayhem is regretable one, If you could clarify it for me it would be great... I for one belive these clans will do well in any situation as long as they want it and stick by it... Saxib, for respecting the people of Sool to decide for their own region And did I said anything wrong about Puntland? no I said since Laascaanood is ruled by Puntland administration presently, Puntland failed to protect safety of the people of Sool, unfortunately the fact is murder and killing of innocent people became a norm these days in Laascaanood, because of lack of good policing!!! Even if the police catch the murderer, the police will release the murderer, because of widespread corruption Although, Somaliland and Puntland both rule some portions of north-central, these administrations they want to rule North central region by any means, and at the same time they are reluctant to address real issues that benefits the people’s wellbeing, hospitals, education, security, and reducing the widespread corruption of their local administrations, their troops, and their polices I guess they want to keep Sool in desperate situation incapable to be self-sufficient

Puntland failed to protect the people Sool!

Rahima, This is what a wise brother from North West (Red sea) has said regarding North central (Sool, east sanag, and Cayn)in another thread “All Somalis have distinct territories, we must respect these territories. For example, the tribes from Hargeysa cannot claim Sool and Sanaag for the most part, if they do, they are in error.†So I guess you are lost in this northern debate! The issue is not who claims what? Because these days, everyone claims anything like properties in Somalia, ku qabso ku qadi meeside the issue is about fairness I know, which is why I reject all stats that I have not seen proof of myself (like in Awdal). Well its you who started this whole issue of statistics, and then you couldn't provide the Source ! I have , where and who have I blamed? And blamed on what premise? “ but do not object because others have chosen to not be with you†See here you addressing only one-side of the conflict, when it’s the opposite Its the people of North central who have chosen not be with their brethren from northwest in the secession issue You talk about unity and not dividing, yet that is exactly what you are doing. Why you saying that I support partition of Somalia? Your statement is untrue Ok I will repeat myself again, If all Somali people choose division over unity, I will continue supporting the unity of all Somali people peacefully, at the same time, I am against force for that reason although I don’t like to see any Somali region seceding, however I support any region to secede if the majority of the people from that particular region within Somalia support secession agenda. I am with my brothers whatever they want Like I said, your room can be semi-clean (North central), but that doesn’t matter when your home (Somalia) is in a mess. I thought you said you had a pride? Why you wish for to make north central part of the mess, or are you suggesting north central, Puntland, and Hiiraan to fellow the Somaliland example? And forget about the less peaceful regions You saying my region is semi-clean, I don’t know why you can just say your region has a relative peace Anyways, north Somalia, which in geographically includes Awadal, Northwest, North central, and North east (Bari) is already in agreement by keeping status que ( so don’t worry). And we hope the south will be very peaceful as well. You have to realize that most of the regions of Somalia are relatively peaceful, 10 out of 18 provinces. And insha Allah Mogadishu is getting recently more peaceful with the courts (although most leaders of the courts decent people like sheikh Ahmed, however surprisingly courts are allied with another set of warlords like indhamadoobe) Hopefully, in the near future all the 18 region will enjoy peace and prosperity, Insha Allah

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: Cadaadiska ay Somaliland ku hayso reer Sool waad iska garanaysaa, laakin Puntland dadka sida General Duke ma oga in ay Puntland cadaadis ku hayso. Cadaadiska aan ka hadlayo waxa weeye, reer Sool way isxukumi karaan hadii loo amaan galiyo dhulkooda, umana baahna Somaliland iyo Puntland toona. Sool aad ayey uga danbaysaa meelaha kale waayo waxay noqotay meel loo soo dagaal tago (battleground). Somaliland iyo Puntland waan in ay ka baxaan, Sool loo daayo Garaadkeeda in uu xukumo waxna ka qabsadaan. Somaal, hadii aad ka soo horjeedo Somaliland iyo Puntland, maxay kula tay haday Sool is xukunto iyadu lafteedu oo local government ay samaystaan? salaam calaykum. Salamo calykum, Red sea waa runtaa Puntland iyo Somaliland qas , dhibaatu iyo cadaadis uun bey ku hayaan reer sool iyo north central guud ahaan north central inay sameesatu maamul goboleed u gaara waa xal wanaagsan, anuu saasaaban taageersanahay haddii Somaliland iyo puntland midoobaan xal wey noqon kartaa, waayo anuu waxba kama qabo hadii sool somaliland ama puntland ka mid noqotu? waayo soomaalidu isku wadamid waa runtaa laba dhinac baa ku dagaalamaya oo dan ka laheen dagaanka? lakiin somaliland iyo puntland maxey ka dagaalamayaan ma iyagaaba jaar ah Somaliland ama puntland waa inay ka caawisaa reer Sool sidey ayagu iskugu filnaan laahaayeen oo maamul u gaar ah dhisan lahaayeen? horeba labadeenu waanu isfahamsaneen? ee dadka aaminsan sool baanu rabnaa inaanu aqoonsi ku gaadhno iyo ingriis baa na mideeya iyo kuwa aaminsan anaga iyo sool qabiil aan jirin baa na mideeya ayaa ani ila khaldan

Rahima, Anyway boys, like i said object because you believe that your land is been claimed wrongfully, but do not object because others have chosen to not be with you. Fair enough, I am only talking about my home North central that’s all, sister stop using “disputed region†there is NO disputed region, dhulka dad baa leh, we can say occupied region, I get angry when foreigners portray NFD, Palestine, Western Somalia, Kashmiir as disputed regions, I say there are no disputed regions because planted on every regoin people, in reality there is only occupied regions I can say with almost complete certainty that the support in Awdal is much much greater than 50%. You wanna know how I know, I’ve seen with my own two eyes. The people of Awdal my friend are happy with the idea and whilst they may not be as enthusiastic regarding it and whilst they see it in general a temporary notion, nevertheless they choose it as the best option for themselves at this point in history. Awdal region is for people of Awdal to decide,to be fair, I am not in a position to argue with you regarding Awdal region I don’t ever expect for our people to be objective and take qabiil out of their politics, Well that applies to everyone whether he/she is from Borame Hergeysa, Laascaanood, Boosaaso or Mogadishu. It doesn’t apply only to one clan or region like I said if I asked a SL from those regions about the secession debate, they would say the opposite. Now I’m not saying one or the other is correct, Another inappropriate statement, why don’t you say if I asked a pro-union from borame/hergeysa like (me), about the union debate, they would support Somalia and reject secession all I’m saying is that if you, Caamir, Maakhir or any others are against SL because they lay claim to your land, then on that point object (and I support). Fair statement, Thanks alot true we only talking about our land, we also need to secede from borame/hergeysa and the irrelevant fomer british colony of somali territories thats all, every one wants to secede nowadays But what they do in Hargeysa or Boorame is not your concern now, Well sister you blaming one side its grossly unfair, True what they do in Hergeysa or borame is not my concern now as you said, but we need also to tell Hergeysa and Borame that what Laascaanood and North central is not their concern now because your own home burns. Sister my home region alhamdulilaah presently there is relative peace, and there are no active wars and no my home region is not burning. I pray Allah, your region Banadir if I am correct, and all other Somali region to enjoy peace, progress, and stability Insha Allah

Garaad caanood bal marka hore ku soo dhowoow Garaadow, run baad sheegtay waa tidhi nin kasta guri giisa ha deeqo oo hunguriga haa la is ka daayo, nin walba dagaankiisa meeshuu rabo haa kala dhaco, haduu rabo ciduu doona haa ku darsado, hadoo rabo haa la go'o, nabad iyo amaan hala isi siiyo. bal soomaalidu haa kala nabadgasho It doesn’t make any sense, at all to use unity card against northwest and colonial border/or former British Somali colony against north central (SSC) We need peace before unity of Somalia or the unity of Somaliland hadii la rabo nabad iyo hishiis If Somali people ever want to enjoy peace labada dhinacba waa inay la yimaadaan tanaasulaad all sides unionists secessionists must be ready for negotiation and compromises Somalia waa inay iska illowdaa northwest Somalia must stop claiming northwest Somaliland waa inay iska illowdaa north central (SSC) Somaliland as well must stop claiming north central (SSC) Somalis must recognize each other first, recognition is not in the hands of United Nations, European Union, African Union, Arab League or IGAD, foreigners will only make things harder for us to agree Recognition is in our hands, if we Somalis recognize each other, everyone else will recognize us – the entire world. Serbia iyo Montenegro recognized each other to avoid conflict, Indonesia and East Timor recognized each other to avoid conflict, Ethiopia and Eritrea recognized each other to avoid conflict, 15 former republics of former Soviet Union (including Russia a nuclear power nation) recognized each other to avoid conflict No foreigner will ever recognize Somali faction till Somalis be in complete agreement and recognize each other soomaalidu hadey is rabaan ha midowbaan, haday is diidayaan dee ha kala go'aan Somalia should stop using unity card against northwest, and Somalia must recognize northwest Somaliland should stop using colonial border/british somali colony card (a brief colonial history) against north central, and Somaliland must recognize north central hadaano soomali nahay maxaano isku xaasideynaa oo isu khasbanaa Me, Although it is my town I am not welcome because of tribalism and you can not deny that clan discrimination does exist there. Every Somali is sharing with you this sentiment So Mogadishu was the hometown of most Somalis, but today the reality is dictating us a different story, that you from the home region of your ancestors, not your hometown where you born and raised!!! In fact before the civil war, most Somali people were living in the capital, because Mogadishu was National City and capital. Today Mogadishu is home of one-clan town where are not welcome. We have to be honest tt’s a painful situation that all Somali towns share, in Hergeysa there is only one clan is welcome , Laascaanood there is only one clan is welcome, Bosaso there is only one clan is welcome, Mogadishu there is only one clan is welcome. Amusingly in neighborhoods there is one sub-clan is welcome as the case of Mogadisho, hergeysa and laascaanood Some cities like Galkacyo and Ceerigaabo are divided like Berlin because of clan factor

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: Garaad Canood, saaxib, Reer Sool iyo Sanaag wax xumaan uma qabo, wanaag iyo walaaltimo iyo waliba diinta Islaamka ah ayaa naga dhaxaysa. Taa ka bacdi, Anigu waligay ma odhan haloo diido Sool iyo Sanaag inay dhiibtaan ra'yigooda. Waxay rabaan iyaga ayuunbaa garanay iyo Ilaahay.Haday rabaan Somalilandna ha raacaan, haday rabaan Somaliwayna ha raacaan, qasab ma jiro, dulmiguna ma fiicna sidiisaba. Anigu marnaba ma odhan mana odhan doono ha la qasbo reer Sool iyo Sanaag sxb. Markaa ha igu khaldamin adoo raali ah walaal. Reer Sool iyo Sanaag, kuwaa reer Burco sida ay igu yihiin ayuunbay igu yihiin marka aan runta ku hadlo, wax xumaan uma hayo. Beelaha halkaa dagana waxbadan ayaa naga dhaxeeya aniga shakhsi ahaantayda. Haday noqoto reer ahaan iyo walibana daris ahaan. Markaa walaal, Ilaahay aan ka cabsano ayuunbaa leeyahay oo aan beenta iyo ruwaayada aan iskugu sheekaynayno aan ka baxno. Waligay anigu waan ka soo horjeeday in ciidamo lageeyo Sool oo u dagaal ka dhaco waay maati ayaa kudhimanaysa, laakin anigu siyaasiyiinta iyo siyaasada Somalidu halka ay marayso ayuunbaan ka hadlayaa, wax dadka laftooda khusaynaya maaha. Dhamaad, walaal, Garaad Caano ilaahay ha kuu barakeeyo Las Anod,Sool. Waxaana ka rajaynayaa in aad mar idinku is xukuntaan oo cidna waxiina idiin qoodayn haday ahaato Somaliland ama fatuudland, waligay ra'yigaygu sidaa ayuun buu ahaa, ahaan doona nah. waad mahadsan tay walaal adoo rali ah. Assalamu calaykum. Well said Red sea Thanks,

Salaamo Calaykum Red Sea Waa runtaa, Somaliland iyo Puntland hurumar badan bey ku talaabsadeen, waana arrin somali oo dhan ku farxaan ku amaanaan gobolada nabada u horseedey dadkooda iyo goboladooda Walaal, usually when Somalis talk about never-ending politics (and we know Somali politics is about tribalism), and of course when Somaliland is an subject of discussion secession is the dominant issue, so don’t take it personal

but for other regions, really it is their choice Rahima, how fair are you? Are you saying some regions/clans have the right of self-determination and others not? If Sool and Sanaag don’t want to be part of clan state of Somaliland? Why you believe the people of Sool Sanaag should be to part Somaliland Can’t be you fair? The issue is not who claims what? Somalia claims Somali region occupied by Ethiopia, the Transitional government claims all former Somali republic Yes tribalism, tribalism dictates everything about our people. From politics to friendships. Like I said unfortunate, but what can you do? The problem my brother is bigger then secessions, it’s sick hearts. I used to get frustrated, I now find it bitterly amusing- that is all you can do. If you saying the issue is about pure tribalism and not about unity and secession, if that is the case why think that north Somalia (a region with diverse and different clans) should be hijacked by one-clan militia led by riyoode That said, I also have some level of pride you see , as I see it if you don’t wanna be my friend, then ta ta and have a nice life. I don’t believe in such things- but then again that’s perhaps just me. People of North central (ssc) are expecting some pride from northwest brothers, northwest should say to north central if you don’t wanna be my friend, then good luck SL is made up of many regions, some which are arguably completely pro-secession and others (two to be exact) are disputed over, where half of the population is pro and the other is against. I disagree with you sister your claims are unsupported, tell me your source? because everyone can claim anything to support his position I believe north Somalia is made up of four regions Awdal region ( 50% support secession), Northwest (80 support secession), North central (90% support unity with Somalia or they don’t want to part of so-called Somaliland), Northeast Bari (amazingly because of error they are part of the south) Former British Somali colony is irrelevant right now You are totally unfair to people of north central Somalia, how you can claim that 50% of the people of North central (Sool sanaag and cayn) support the secession, a false statement. If you want to know the truth go visit the north central region, ask people from north central their views, there are many nmad here in this forum from north central like soomaal, naxar nugaaleed, caamir, maakhir Why you think that we can divide Somalia? And we cannot divide irrelevant former brinish colony of Somalia Why think the majority of irrelevant former brinish colony of Somalia can secede from Somalia? And the massive majority of north central Somalia cannot secede from the irrelevant former brinish colony of Somalia? Although I am sure that the world will not recognize the clan-state based in Hergeysa for obvious reasons, for hypothetical purpose if recognized, I think it will only lead another Somali horrific civil war in north Somalia between northwest and north central Logically, if Somalia is divisible, Somaliland (an irrelevant former british colony) is as well divisible Note: I don’t mind if Northwest secedes, that’s for northwest Somalis to decide

cadaadiska ay Puntland ku haysa umada reer Sool Red Sea walaal, cadaadisla ay Somaliland ku haysu ummada north central (Sool sanaag iyo cayn) maxaad u illowday? ma xaq baa iin dhinac uun la eedeeyo marka ey xaqiiqdu tahay, puntland inay rabtu kaliya xukun reer sool, puntland waa dowlad goboled mana rabaan inay xuduud dhex dhigaan dadka walaalaha ah ee reer laascaanood iyo reer burco, puntland calankii soomaaliyeed uun bey wadataa Somaliland waxey rabtaa inay xukumaan reer sool sidoo kale, lakiin intaa waxaa dheer in reer sool ka badlaan nationality, calanka, xuduud caalami ah na dhex dhigaan dadka walaalaha ah ee reer laascaaanood iyo reer garowe marka waxaad moodaa in arrinka somaliland sii qoto dheeryahay haddii daacad la noqdu Personaly, as a somali from Laascaanood I do'nt support no clan-states like Somaliland and Puntland anuu waxaan qabaa in somaliland iyo Puntland inay labaduba iskaga baxaan north-central, waxaad mooda in somaliland iyo puntland ku hishiiyeen inay qaybsadaan north central labada ciidan isku horfadhiya aricadeeye wax badan buu u dhimay nabadgalyada iyo hurumarka Laascaanood iyo guud ahaan north-central (Sool sanaag iyo cayn)

Salaam Red sea Waad ku mahadsantahay in aad fahansantahay in dadka somaliyeed ey yihiin dad muslim ah, walaala ah, wada dhashay,oona wadadaga wax badan sida diin, luqad, taariikh, dhul, iyo badan oo kele waayo waa hal ummad oo isku mida Nimanka siyaasiyiinta ayaa uun wax qasaya si ey danahooda qaar ka ah u fuliyaan Dhinac kasta wey ku jiraan dad yar oo dhibta ka shaqeeya, lakiin waxaa la garan la’ yahay meeshey salaadu iska qabsan la’dahay, meeye majority ga fiican, waayo in yar oo siyaasiin isku sheegaya baa uun wax wa laaqaya Waa runtaa red sea, waa saad dheegtay sida keliya ee dhibta looga bixi karo waa in dadka soomaaliyeed oo dhan meel uga soo wada jeestaan nimanka dhibta wada,lakiin inta ey shacbiga soomaaliyeed ku daba feelanyihiin warlord turned politicians waxba ma hagaagayaan, maaha in danbiilayaasha la kala xigsadu, danbiile waa mujrim

Thank you, President Dahir Rayale ON JUNE 23, two militiamen, armed with a decrepit battlewagon, crossed the unofficial border between two rival Somali sub-states: the semi-autonomous State of Puntland, in northeastern Somalia, and the self-declared “Republic of Somaliland,†which the international community recognizes only as northwest Somalia. The two militiamen immediately surrendered and requested political asylum from the Puntland administration, claiming that if they returned to the Somaliland side of the border, they would be accused of “national treason†and sentenced accordingly. The two asylum-seekers were treated like honorable guests and allowed to stay in Puntland, even though the Puntland government did not make any official statement with regard to the future of these men. The next day, June the 24th, Ahmed Yassin, the hawkish vice president of Somaliland, issued a direct threat, demanding that Puntland immediately return the escaped militiamen and battlewagon or face unspecified “military action†from Somaliland militias. Somaliland’s ailing defense minister issued a similar threat to Puntland on the same day of the militiamen’s intrepid escape. During this entire time, the Puntland leadership declined to officially reply to Somaliland’s words of war. But it turns out that they didn’t need to. After all, Somaliland president Dahir Rayale spoke for Puntland – and for all logical minds – when he coolly dismissed the entire episode. “Bigger things happen around the world everyday,†President Rayale told reporters in Hargeisa, the Somaliland capital, on July 3rd. Thank you, President Rayale, for your levelheaded response to critics who want to spark a destructive war in erstwhile peaceful northern Somalia (Somaliland and Puntland regions). There is absolutely no need for militaristic use of language, especially coming from top leaders like VP Yassin. It’s truly worrying to see an official in charge of an entire population speak of war in such easy terms. More than 100 souls perished during a one-day battle in October 2004 between Puntland and Somaliland militias. Since then, the two sides have achieved limited cooperation, and even exchanged prisoners of war in December 2005. The Puntland administration has every right to either accept or deny asylum to the two militiamen who voluntarily left their barracks in Somaliland and surrendered themselves to Puntland authorities. It is part of Somali culture to welcome your guests into your home and to treat them with due respect and hospitality. The bigger question the pro-Somaliland camp should ask themselves is this: Why did those two men escape and thereby betray everything Somaliland stands for? Garowe Online Editorial Board

mma waa runtaa ciidamada Ethiopia wey joogeen gobolada somalia inta badan, 16 sano ee la soo dhaafay anoo ma garanayo waxa cuusub Ethoipia waa hore ayeeba dagtey somalia war sideed ka badan Ethoipia 10 gobol ee la jaar dhamaan wey ku xuduud gudubtay gobolka sool tuulada dherkeyn ciidamada xabashidu bari beeba dageen, wax loo dul qaadan karo maaha xabashidu waxey sameenayaan lakiin inti soomaalidu is baabinayaan, lana xalin dhibaatooyinka ka jira Adhicadeeye, shabeelooyinka, iyo jubooyinka in Ethoipia la layaabo wax makaxda gali kara maaha waa innaano isi saxnaa, inta aan cid kale la eedeen

mma waa runtaa ciidamada Ethiopia wey joogeen gobolada somalia inta badan, 16 sano ee la soo dhaafay anoo ma garanayo waxa cuusub Ethoipia waa hore ayeeba dagtey somalia war sideed ka badan Ethoipia 10 gobol ee la jaar dhamaan wey ku xuduud gudubtay gobolka sool tuulada dherkeyn ciidamada xabashidu bari beeba dageen, wax loo dul qaadan karo maaha xabashidu waxey sameenayaan lakiin inti soomaalidu is baabinayaan, lana xalin dhibaatooyinka ka jira Adhicadeeye, shabeelooyinka, iyo jubooyinka in Ethoipia la layaabo wax makaxda gali kara maaha waa innaano isi saxnaa, inta aan cid kale la eedeen

^ As far as i'm concerned, Somalis can break themselves up to in a hundred clan entities (which the Horn is now anyway) if they so wish, so long as they achieve peace and prosperity, short of selling their religion i don't care how they do it, even if along clan lines. Fair statement I don’t think its good idea or we can gain peace/development to divide Somali people into a dozen rival Somali clan-states in 21 century – the age of globalization, unity and alliance, a time that nation-state is declining, entire Europe is becoming one country – the home of both world wars and 80 million people vanished. A Europe with million different languages, nations, religions, cultures, harsh history with million wars for the last millennium united under one flag I believe Somali – the most homogenous people in the world with one religion, language, culture, tradition can unite again and restore unity and brotherhood of Somali regardless of the civil war However, I personally don’t mind, if any Somali clan/region wants to secede, it’s reasonable and acceptable, because there is the right of self-determination of every people, any Somali clan/region should be able to secede if they want and can achieve peace through secession. If northwest Somalia wants to secede that’s something acceptable, and reasonable But what’s unacceptable and intolerable is for riyoode militia to claim all former Somali British colony because of brief colonial history NO one should be forced to be part of Somalia/Somaliland/Puntland or any other land colony I support unity only when people willing, unity should not be forced to any one, forced unity is not unity its new kind of colonialism. Rationally, If Somalia is divisible, Somaliland is as well divisible As a northern Somali I aim to be co-citizen with each and every Somali person if possible I am for voluntary unity of all Somali people/clans/regions

Rahima I am from northern Somalia, and I have a say like majority of north Somalis to counter the secessionist militia led by Riyoode Riyoode (the former Siad’s secret agent) is a notorious warlord and he has blood in his hands like your lovely leader Riyoode dreams to restore old European colony, all Somali people particularly northerners like myself must resist the division of brotherly Muslim Somali people on the basis of brief colonial history, there is NO British Somalis or Italian Somalis in Somalia For me the most pressing issue is the fate of my home region in northern Somalia North Somalis are Somalis from Somalia Since you support the opposition of the transitional government (islamic courts) Do you hate the government and the Somalis who support the government? When you speak against C/yusuf, the transitional government or state their weaknesses, are you jealous of c/Yusuf, his government, or the supporters of the government? Rahima, many Somalis are against the transitional government and support the Islamic courts; I believe it’s unfair to accuse them tribalism , hate, and jealousy. As well, it’s unfair Rahima, to accuse those who are against the secession and riyoode militia tribalism,hate, and jealousy. I think its offensive to some north Somalis and uncalled for unless you’re a real SL, Are saying non-real SL (I guess you mean those who opposing secession mainly people from pro-union regions within north Somalia) cannot speak for their home region north Somalia? where you were born these days does not necessarily dictate your political views, it’s all about that which caused our demise. of course, everyone is entitled to have his own personal views North Somalia is populated by different and diverse clans like south Somalia, accordingly there is no one clan militia can hijack the whole north You mean tribalism, be straightforward, that could explain why some north Somalis are supporters of Riyaale’s clan militia and others are opponents and resisting the Somaliland Really, I disappointed with your comments, I felt you were not fair to pro-union Somalis in the north, is it because all about that which caused our demise, as you said.

Md. Yaasiin, waxa uu sheegay in saraakiishan laga doonayo xuduudaha Somaliland, halkaas oo uu xusay in ay ka fulin doonaan hawlaha qaranka. Madaxweyne-ku-xigeenka oo Ciidamada Qaranka ku Dar-daaray Xaaladaha Mandaqadda ka Jira Hargeysa (Jam)- Xaflad abaal-marinno lagu guddoonsiinayey askar iyo saraakiil ka tirsan Ciidanka Qaranka Somaliland oo soo dhammaystay koorsooyin waxbarasho ay muddo siddeed bilood ah ku soo qaateen dalka Itoobiya, ayaa shalay lagu qabtay Taliska Guud ee Ciidanka Qaranka ee magaalada Hargeysa. Xafladda oo ay ka qaybgaleen masuuliyiin ay ka mid yihiin Madaxweyne-ku-xigeenka Somaliland, Wasiirrada Arrimaha Gudaha, Arrimaha Dibadda, Madaxtooyada, Wasiir-ku-xigeenka Gaashaandhigga, Taliyeyaasaha Ciidamada Milateriga iyo Booliska iyo marti-sharaf kale, ugu horreyn waxa halkaa ka hadlay Md. Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin, Madaxweyne-ku-xigeenka Somaliland, oo sheegay in xukuumaddu bixin doonto darajooyinkii ciidannimo inta aanu dhammaan sannadkani, sidaa awgeedna, loo baahan yahay in la helo ciidan dhisan oo aqoon leh una qalma darajada, isaga oo ka codsaday dawladda Itoobiya in ay labanlaabto koorasyada ay siiso ciidamada Somaliland, si loo helo ciidan tayo leh oo dhisan. Md. Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin, waxa kale oo uu xusay in dhisidda iyo tayeynta ciidanka qaranku ay ka mid tahay shuruudaha ku xidhan aqoonsiga ay Somaliland raadinayso, isla markaana aanu dalna jiri Karin ama madaxbannaanaan Karin haddii aanu lahayn quwad ciidan. "Haddii aan ka warramo xaaladaha ku soo kordhay Geeska, innagu waxaynu ku noolayn nabadgelyo iyo degganaansho, markii aynu ka soo guulaysanay dhibaatooyin fara badan oo iskaashaday. Maanta waxa ku soo kordhay Geeska arrimo fara badan oo aad ka war-haysaan. Siday doonaanba ha ahaadaane, waa dad [soomaaliya] iyagu u dagaalamaya in ay helaan nabadgelyo, halkan [somaliland] ayaa la doonayaa in taa laga huriyo. Markaa waxaan leeyahay waar annagu [somaliland] degganaansho waanu haysanaa, isla markaana waxaanu haysanaa calankeedii, waxaanan leeyahay kuwa islaamnimada ku dhuumanaya annagaa ah Islaamkii dhabta ahaa," ayuu yidhi Madaxweyne-ku-xigeenka, oo ka warramayey arrimo uu sheegay in ay ku soo kordheen mandaqadda Geeska Afrika. Md. Yaasiin, waxa uu sheegay in saraakiishan laga doonayo xuduudaha Somaliland, halkaas oo uu xusay in ay ka fulin doonaan hawlaha qaranka. Wasiir-ku-xigeenka Wasaaradda Gaashaandhigga, Maxamed Cali Yuusuf (Maydhax), ayaa sheegay in saraakiisa soo dhammaystay kooraska waxbarasho ay ka mid yihiin raggii ugu cadcaddaa halgankii lagu riday dawladdii Siyaad Barre, sidaa darteed, ay wasaarad ahaan ku kalsoonaayeen in ay ka gudbi karaan caqabad kasta oo ka hortimaadda muddada ay ku gudo-jiraan kooraska waxbarasho. Taliyaha Ciidanka Qaranka Somaliland, Nuux Ismaaciil Taani, oo xafladdaa ka hadlay, ayaa tilmaamay saraakiisha kooraska waxbarasho soo dhammaystay in ay yihiin ragga ay ku dhaataan ciidanka qaranku ee joogay jiidda hore. Isaga oo intaa ku daray, in uu aad ugu faraxsan yahay soo-noqoshadooda oo uu xusay in ay ku soo beegantay waqti mandaqadda ay ka jiraan arrimo xasaasi ah. Mr. Nuux Taani, waxa kale oo uu sheegay in ay saraakiishani yihiin difcaddii labaad ee koorso waxbarasho ku soo qaata dalka Itoobiya, isaga oo xusay in dhowaan filayaan ay timaaddo derajadii ciidanka, oo ay hore ugu gudbiyeen xukuumadda sare. Cabdillaahi Ibraahim Maxamed, oo ka mid ah saraakiisha waxbarashada ku soo qaatay Itoobiya, ayaa sheegay in muddadii kooraska ku jireen ay qaateen aqoon tayo leh, taas oo uu tilmaamay in ay si weyn uga anfici doono hawlaha ciidan ee madaxda ka yihiin. Ugu dambayn, sarkaalku waxa uu xusay in ay arrintani muujinayso taageerada iyo jaarnimada wanaagsan ee ka dhexaysay labada dawladood ee Somaliland iyo Itoobiya. Jamhuuriya Online