Originally posted by Jey: Obviously we can’t get long so why not try the alternative. Good point, why can’t stop the hypocrisy for once but its you who is against the alternative True we can’t get along (we can’t agree on your clan-state/Somaliland, and we can’t agree on reinstating old colonial borders), so why not try the alternative Originally posted by Jey: Establishing legitimate government is Somalia is the key for Somaliland recognition. False The establishment of a legitimate government, and more peaceful south will only severely undermine imagenery recognition of so-called Somaliland (Maybe not Northwest, because the two are really different) In reality, the real issue that prevented the recognition of so-called Somaliland is the simple fact there is no such thing as Somaliland, or at least united Somaliland, There is something called Northwest (the ex-wooqiye-galbeed and togdheer) and North central (sool sanaag and cayn) People of Hergeysa have better chance to receive recognition if they try Northwest, because former british somaliland colony have ZERO chance to receive recognition because in international politics colonial era is history, in somali politics former british colony is irrelevent everyone knows that somali politics is tribal feud, and the fact that there was never a war between Irrelevant british somaliland and Irrelevant italian somaliland, actually they united International community recognizes the fact that not all the territories of the irrelevant former British Somali colony want to secede. Also they recognize its internal tribal issue for Somalia because the whole Somali civil war that began after the war of 1977 was about rivalry between different warlords represent Somali clans and subclans, ssdf, snm, and usc, were all tribal factions found to fight against other tribes for power struggle reasons. Example the war of 1988 in Hergeysa, the war of 1991 in Mogadisho, the war of 1994-1996 in Mogadisho,the war of 1994-1995 in Burco, the war raging in the south, and the one continuing north (Adhicadeye) Therefore the world simply don’t want to recognize clan-militia That’s why every United States resolution concerning Somalia since 1991 to this present day begins with “ The Security Council reaffirms its commitment to a comprehensive and lasting settlement of the situation in Somalia, consistent with the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, bearing in mind respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity, political independence and unity of Somalia.”

Jey, Ama si dadnimo ku jirtu ra'yigaaga u dhiibo ama is ka aamo If las Canod was on the other side of the border we wouldn't be having this conversation. Waan ogaa in caqliba kugu jirin, waaxaasu siyaased maaha, soo baro sida loo hadlo bordeka ma adaa sameestay orod ingriise uraadso ingriiisna waxuu oran dadkii xuriyad baan siiyey shaqadeeda maaha border aad ku riyoonaso halkey joogtaa Hergeysa aqoonsi u weydey, markasaa Laascaanood hunguri kaa hayaa the reason we have this conversation is because some people are daalimiin and greedy Ilmaha yar baa og cida cuqdad iyo cabaad ka shaqeensan karwaayey, iskana saaray soomaali iyo muslim... soomaali baa wali dilay wali baaqay wali taabtay markaa Las Canood will come around when the time is right. In fact, Hergeysa will come around when the time is right Shirkii boorame ba Galaydh iyo xulufadiisa ka qab qablaynaayay Nin baa shir tagey sheeko maaha, Tuurba watuu caydiid hoostagey Macno haa kuusemeeso tuur, buubaa, kaluun, qaalib, sifir, baa shirar qaran ka qeyb galay Markay yimaadaan we will welcome them with open arms. Riyoode (Siyaa's former spy), Siilanyo, and your adeero waraabe are more than welcome to unite with their muslim and somali brethren Yagaaba awalba geed isku xiray Imikana cidi xoog kuma qabsanaysee is daji... Casharka laga bartay 16 waa cidina cid xoog kuma qabsan kartu, maamul qabiil meel ma gaarayo

But You do understand any Somali goverment will lay a claim on Somaliland, and most of southerners are not keen on independent Sland. Before Somali Government and southerners you talking about There is regions in the north like Sool, East Sanaag ad Cayn that are for unity and against secession

c'mon stop the BS of Northwest this northwest that. You should first stop your clan-state of somaliland this somaliland that because really so-called is only northwest of Somalia not all somalia (s) or are you still in colonial era thinking that there is British somaliland colony!! war ingriis bari hore ayuu tagey ^^^Blah, bluh..Haven’t we done this before... Didn't we done somaliland before? true, its old now grow up If Hergeysa and Mogadisho or Hegeysa and Kismayo cannot go along as were argueing, then Hergeysa and Laascaanood cannot go along as well Reer Laascaanood miis y soaali kku dhamen ma soo fadhiisanayaan If you think we should respect the will of people of Hergeysa(northwest), You also should respect the will of the poeple of Laascaanood BTW, Miyaad noolayd waxaan moodayay inaad adeero buusuukaha u qaadayee oo Baydhabo u guurtee sick man,

Che, Of course they will. But it will come down to what the people of Somaliland want. Establishing legitimate government is Somalia is the key for Somaliland recognition. NO , it comes down to what the people of northwest and norh-central, NOT Somaliland today somaliland "former british somali colony" is irrelevent NO one will ever recognize Somaliland, because Somaliland is not legitimate but maybe northwest Juje, I don’t agree with you. I think both goals are Having multiple Somali nations in Africa is great for us politically and economically. Obviously we can’t get long so why not try the alternative. Keep in mind that northwest and north central are as well cannot go along, so why try the alternative meaning to not revisit old colonial borders

Garaad Jamac Garaad Cali oo si aad u diiran loogu soo dhaweeyey gegedida dayuuradaha ee Toronto, Canada Dhamaan Jaliyadaha iyo ururadad Somaalida, Televitionka somalida ee toronto, dhamaan idaacadaha somalida iyo dadwayne aad u fara badan ayaa gagidada dayuurada ku sugayey Garaad Jamac Garaad Cali,ka dib markii uu caawa ka soo degey Toronto.... Goobtan ayaa ahayd mid aad loo soo buuxiyey , Garaadku wuxuu ka soo degay gegida dayuuradaha 10:00 pm EST. isagoo ka soo kicitimay Boston,Mass, kuna sugnaa mudo todobo cisho ah, isagoo shirar is daba jooga la galay jaliyada somaaliyeed ee New England Soo dhawaynta Garaad Jamac Garaad Cali ayaa ahayd mid aad loo soo agaasimay. dadwayne somaliyeed oo aad u tira badanina ka soo qayb gashay. waxaa saf Dheer galay dhamaan dadkii halkaa iskugu yimi si ay u gacan qaadaan Garaadka. dadkaa waxaa ka muuqday shucuur aad fiican iyagoo ku faraxsan soo dhawaynta garaad Jamac Garaad Cali. Waxaa garaadka loo sii gelbiyey Shereton Hotel iyadoo lagu sii galbinayey baabur ilaa laga gadhayey Hotelkii. Garaadku wuxuu joogi donaa Toronto,Canada ilaa Jimcaha soo socda Bari oo sabtiyana u la kulmi doono Jaliyada Somalida ee toronto,Canada Garaadku wuxuu ilaa iyo iminka safar ku soo maray Gobalada Virginia,Ohio iyo New England hadana wuxuu uga sii gudbi doonaa Minnapolis,Minasota. Toronto,Canada

Liberal leadership candidate Stephane Dion © and Gerard Kennedy ® walk with supporters at the Liberal convention in Montreal, December 2, 2006. (Chris Wattie/Reuters) Stephane Dion is congratulated by Jean Chretien, Bill Graham, Paul Martin and John Turner, left to right following his speech after winning the Liberal leadership Saturday, Dec. 2, 2006 in Montreal. (AP PHOTO/CP,Tom Hanson) Leadership candidate Stephane Dion, left, raises his arm with supporters Gerard Kennedy and Martha Hall Findlay at the Liberal Leadership Convention Saturday, Dec. 2, 2006 in Montreal. (AP PHOTO/CP,Tom Hanson) Canada Liberals choose Stephane Dion as leader 02 Dec 2006 23:13:50 GMT Source: Reuters MONTREAL, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Canada's official opposition Liberals on Saturday unexpectedly chose former Environment Minister Stephane Dion as their new leader despite political shortcomings that could hinder his chances in an election expected next year. Dion, in fourth place after the first round of voting, beat former Harvard academic Michael Ignatieff on the fourth and final ballot at a Montreal leadership convention. Dion won by 2,521 votes to 2,084. The Liberals have dominated Canadian politics for the past century but lost power to the Conservatives in a January election. The Conservatives have a minority government that looks set to fall in 2007, sparking a new election. Dion won in part by stressing the need to do more for the environment, a topic of increasing importance to Canadians. But he has two potential strikes against him. First, he speaks English with a heavy French accent, which could make it hard to win over voters in what is a predominantly Anglophone country. Second, he is unpopular in his home province of Quebec, which accounts for a quarter of the seats in the federal Parliament. French-speaking separatists strongly dislike him for his efforts to prevent them from holding a successful referendum on whether Quebec should break away from the rest of Canada. An Ipsos-Reid opinion poll published on Friday said if Dion won the leadership, the Liberals would win 27 percent support if an election were held now, compared with 35 percent for the Conservatives.

At any rate, far from being influenced by tribal politics, my objective was to expose their heavily subjective mindset alongside the inherent contradictions of secular politics; this, indeed, leave us with Shariah as the only coherent alternative that has also the potential to eventually unite us. As for the manipulated masses, our primary goal should be to limit animosities in order to ease transition towards an Islamic Government and educate them in the meantime about Islam and its pratical solutions for the ravage of corruption, nepotism and economic dependency... Good point No honest somali opposes shari’ah We all agree As you know Soo maal,no Muslim should justify the fact that one threatens other Muslims in order to create fear in their hearts,for that I appose and dismiss his comments,because as a Muslim I know it's not right to threaten someone, and Las Anod of all people,because I could argue Burco and Las Anod are two homes in the same neighborhood resided by inaabtiyo and members of the same families,which makes it even strange. Thanks red sea, We are on same page as allways Xaqiiq weeyaan, we all one people All this ink spilled because of a silly threat? Reer Laascaanood iyo Reer Hargeisa know eachother; marka waxba ha isku daalilina arinkaan--- We have been hearing this for the past 8 years. True, If Faysal couldn’t attain support for war efforts for the last 8 years, then lets hope for best and that nothing bad will happen, and close this disappointing thread And discuss something more useful insha Allah I quit

Originally posted by Garaad Caanood: Wadinimada iyo somalinimada waa lagu ogaa reer sool WOW I like this picture Its great picture Thanks Garaad

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: Soo maal,note that there are two different Sharmarkes in this forum,maybe you have mixed them up. Faisal Cali Waraabe iyo hadaladiisa waa layaaqaan,laakin waxaa iga yaabisay qaar idinka mida oo nacayd ka dhex muuqdo,idinkuun bal isjira. Red Sea I hope the there are two different sharmarks in this forum Walaal, waxna yeenan kaa yaabin dadka naceyb ka wada waayo gobol kasta wala ga helayaa mida kale adinka haa iila hadlin anagu is camp baanu nahay say anaga, haa ka yeelin faysal iyo wixii la mid ah inay na kala qeybiyaan insha allah Anuu hada kuwan u duceenaya faysal lama yaabin waayo dhibaatada dalkeenii ka jirta ayeey ka tarjumayaan

Exactly excellent conference with high profile speakers I will not be able to go there

I didn’t surprised with seylici’s comments, but wats interesting and unfortunate is to learn that our Sheikh sharmarke is a fan of Faisal Waraabe as well, Its wrong and irrational to relegate the hateful threats of Mr. Faisal, as merely man expressing his views, I am just disappointed with shiikh Sharmarke, waxaan u haystay inoo intaa ka caqli badanyahay I believe it’s wrong to support or make excuses any warlord who is making threats to invade Somali town, in this case Faisal’s frequent threats of invading Laascaanood

Illahay haa u naxariitu marxuumka

Great pictures...wow Maakhirland is very beautiful Alhamdulilaah

Garaad I don't understand why Faisal always talks about invading Laascaanood, Anuu ma garan Faisal ma sidaanu ku helaa tageero? Faisal hadii uu rabo in Hargeysadiisa in loodaayo, dadka waa inuu nabad ki siiyo dhulkooda

The New York Times Kissinger Says Victory in Iraq Is Not Possible By BRIAN KNOWLTON WASHINGTON, Nov. 19 — Former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger, who regularly advises President Bush on Iraq, said today that a full military victory was no longer possible there. He thus joined a growing number of leading conservatives openly challenging the administration’s conduct of the war and positive forecasts for it. “If you mean, by ‘military victory,’ an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don’t believe that is possible,” Mr. Kissinger told BBC News. In Washington, a leading Republican supporter of the war, Senator John McCain of Arizona, said American troops in Iraq were “fighting and dying for a failed policy.” But Mr. McCain continued to argue vigorously for a short-term surge in American forces, and he gained a vocal ally in Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, another influential Republican, who said, “We’re going to lose this war if we don’t adjust quickly.” The comments came at a sensitive time, just as the Bush administration, deeply frustrated by the persistent chaos in Iraq — where more than 50 people died in violence today — and stung by Republicans’ electoral setbacks on Nov. 7, has undertaken an intense search for new approaches to the war. Mr. Kissinger, in the BBC interview, said the United States must open talks with Iraq’s neighbors, pointedly including Iran, if progress is to be achieved in Iraq. Mr. Bush has said the United States is ready for such talks, but only if Iran moves to halt its nuclear enrichment work. American officials say low-level talks with Syria have produced little progress. But Mr. Kissinger also said that a hasty withdrawal from Iraq would have “disastrous consequences,” leaving not only Iraq but neighboring countries with large Shiite populations destabilized for years. He said the United States would probably have to plot a road between military victory and total withdrawal. The comments reflected a markedly more pessimistic view than Mr. Kissinger has expressed publicly in the past. The book “State of Denial” by Bob Woodward quotes Mr. Kissinger as saying in September 2005 that the only exit strategy for Iraq was victory. Analysts of the Pentagon, State Department and other agencies are working feverishly to complete a report for the White House meant to lay out American options in Iraq. They hope to do so before a much-awaited review from the bipartisan commission headed by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, which is expected by mid-December. The Baker group has sought Kissinger’s advice. As those projects go forward, three proposals — not necessarily mutually exclusive — have emerged, and today senior lawmakers argued them all: to quickly begin a phased troop withdrawal as a means to compel the Iraqi government to seize greater responsibilities, to temporarily increase American troop strength to bolster security before initiating a withdrawal, and to engage Iraq’s neighbors in talks aimed at halting their support for unrest in Iraq. Mr. McCain, a respected figure on military matters who is exploring a presidential bid in 2008, has argued before for more troops, and he made the case passionately today. “I believe the consequences of failure are catastrophic,” McCain told ABC News. “It will spread to the region. You will see Iran more emboldened.” Mr. Graham, a fellow member of the Armed Services Committee, had hinted Wednesday, when his committee questioned General John P. Abizaid, commander of American forces in the Middle East, that he backed McCain; and he made this clear today. “We need an overwhelming presence in Iraq for the short term,” he told CBS News. General Abizaid said Wednesday that while the American military could find an additional 20,000 troops for a short deployment, the nation’s ability to stay longer was “simply not something that we have right now with the size of the Army and the Marine corps.” Mr. Graham said he disagreed with Mr. Kissinger about the impossibility of a military victory in Iraq. But as someone who was able to visit the open-air markets of Baghdad to buy a rug on his first Iraq visit — but had to travel in a tank during his latest — Mr. Graham said that matters were “absolutely” worse. Mr. Kissinger said that a rapid withdrawal could have “disastrous consequences.” “If you withdraw all the forces without any international understanding and without any even partial solution of some of the problems, civil war in Iraq will take on even more violent forms and achieve dimensions that are probably exceeding those that brought us into Yugoslavia with military force,” he said. Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, a Democrat who will become chairman of the Armed Services Committee when the new Congress convenes in January, has led the calls for a phased withdrawal, to begin within months, as a way to jolt Iraqi leaders into grasping greater control. “If you don’t do that, they’re going to continue to have the false assumption that we’re there in some kind of open-ended way,” he said today on CNN. But a phased withdrawal could leave Iraq perilously vulnerable, military analysts say, not just to internal violence but to its neighbors — Iran, Syria and possibly even Turkey, should it decide to send forces into the north of Iraq to pursue Kurdish guerrillas. A growing number of lawmakers, and reportedly the Baker commission, favor intense direct negotiations with those neighbors to ensure their cooperation. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic presidential candidate in 2004, cited Mr. Kissinger’s own negotiations with the North Vietnamese in arguing for engagement with Iran and Syria. “If you pursue legitimate diplomacy, the way Henry Kissinger did when he made multiple trips, night after night, day after day, twisting arms, working; if you make the effort that Jim Baker did to build a legitimate coalition, I’m confident we can do what’s necessary to get the neighborhood — and I include in that Iran and Syria — to take greater stakes,” Mr. Kerry told Fox News. Mr. McCain said he was not against talks with Syria and Iran, but questioned whether Iran had sufficient reason to cooperate. “Iranians are on the ascendancy if we fail” in Iraq, he said, “so it’s going to be very difficult to find common interests.” Several conservatives who had strongly supported the war have since fallen out with the administration. One of them, Kenneth Adelman, a former assistant secretary of defense, said on CNN that the management of the war “just breaks your heart.” Mr. Adelman, who had famously predicted that the invasion of 2003 would be a “cakewalk,” criticized the decisions that allowed widespread looting after the fall of Baghdad, as well as the dismissals of Iraqi military and civilian officials. He is no longer on speaking terms with Vice President Dick Cheney, according to The Washington Post, which quoted him in an article today as saying: “This didn’t have to be managed this bad. It’s awful.”

Al Jazeera International Al Jazeera International is a 24-hour English-language news and current affairs channel headquartered in Doha, Qatar. A subsidiary of Al Jazeera, it aimed to commence global broadcasting in June 2006 [1] but had to postpone its launch until 15 November 2006 [2]. Al Jazeera International is the world’s first English-language news channel to be headquartered in the Middle East. The channel will provide both a regional voice and a global perspective to a potential world audience of over one billion English speakers, but without the usual Anglo-American worldview. [3] Instead of being run under central command, news management will rotate around broadcasting centres in and Kuala Lumpur, Doha, London and Washington, D.C. "following the sun". The station will broadcast factual programming including news features and analysis, documentaries, live debates, current affairs, business and sport. Contents 1 Reporters and presenters 2 International bureaux 2.1 Middle East 2.2 Africa 2.3 Asia & Australasia 2.4 The Americas 2.5 Europe 3 Reception 4 External links Reporters and presenters Former US Marine Josh Rushing, who was featured in the documentary Control Room, will be an on-air personality at the new channel.[4] It has also been announced that veteran British broadcaster Sir David Frost and former BBC and CNN anchor Riz Khan will join the new channel [5]. Other previously well-known journalists set to join the channel include: David Frost (broadcaster) (BBC) Felicity Barr (ITN) Stephen Cole (BBC) Jane Dutton (BBC, CNN) Darren Jordon (BBC) David Foster (Sky) Shiulie Ghosh (ITN) Kimberly Halkett (GLOBAL TV) Dave Marash (ABC) Rageh Omaar (BBC) Veronica Pedrosa (BBC, CNN) Shahnaz Pakravan (BBC, ITN) Mark Seddon (Various) Steff Gaulter (Sky) Barbara Serra (Sky) Lauren Taylor (ITN) International bureaux In addition to the four brodcast centres, Al Jazeera International will have 20 supporting bureaux which will gather and produce news. It will share the resources of the Arabic language channel's 42 bureaux and is planning to add further bureaux to be announced as they open. [6] Middle East Broadcast Centre: Doha Correspondents: Hoda Abdel-Hamid, Hashem Ahelbarra, James Bays, John Cookson, and Mike Hanna. Bureaux: Beirut, Jerusalem, Ramallah and Gaza. Correspondents: Zeina Khodr & Rula Amin, Jacky Rowland, and Walid Batrawi. Africa Bureaux: Cairo, Abidjan, Nairobi, Johannesburg, South Africa, and Harare. Correspondents: Amr El Kahky, Gabi Menezes, Haru Mutasa, Kalay Maistry, and Farai Sevenzo. Asia & Australasia Broadcast Centre: Kuala Lumpur Correspondent: Tony Birtley Bureaux: Beijing, Delhi, Islamabad, Manila, and Sydney. Correspondents: Tony Cheng, Zain Awan & Rajesh Sundaram, Kamal Hyder, Marga Ortigas, and Dan Nolan The Americas Broadcast Centre: Washington DC Correspondents: Viviana Hurtado & Rob Reynolds Bureaux: Buenos Aires, Caracas, and New York. Correspondents: Lucia Newman, Mariana Sanchez, Mark Seddon, and Kristen Saloomey. Europe Broadcast Centre: London Correspondents: Alan Fisher Bureaux: Athens and Moscow. Correspondents: Barnaby Phillips and Jonah Hull Source:

Al Jazeera English goes live TV NEWS NOW VIDEO: Al Jazeera International (Trailer) Al Jazeera English, the new international news channel from the Qatar-based television network, has begun broadcasting from its main studios in Doha. The opening broadcast, which was expected to be available in 80 million households around the world, took place at 3pm Doha time (12:00 GMT) and featured a clip introducing the channel. Aiming to be the channel of reference for Middle East events, Al Jazeera also has broadcast centres Kuala Lumpur, London and Washington. Al Jazeera, which celebrated its 10th anniversary on November 1, has revolutionised news media in the Arab world, and has also provoked controversy. Wadah Khanfar, the director-general of Al Jazeera network, said on the eve of the first broadcast: "Our launch figure is over double the original target we set for ourselves." "This is unprecedented in the broadcasting industry - no other international news channel has launched with such a high number of homes across the world. "We will continue to build on this figure after launch and will be looking to expand our reach significantly. This is another reflection of the strength of Al Jazeera brand." In addition to cable and satellite, it will be available on broadband, IPTV, ADSL, terrestrial and mobile phone platforms.

NSPU 2006 Conference on Peace and Somali Unity Conference objectives The 2006 Conference on Peace and Somali Unity, an inclusive Pan-Somali event, will be held in the Washington Metro Area, during the weekend of December 01 – 02, 2006. The Conference will be sponsored by the Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU, a newly founded grass-roots organization with membership primarily from the Northern region of Somalia, is dedicated to the goals of consolidating Somali unity and advocating for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Somali State against the backdrop of the prevailing internal and external disuniting factors. The fall Conference will bring together a wide spectrum of participants, including members of the Diaspora, intellectuals, academicians, diplomats, former statesmen, and senior administrators from around the world. Although the core of the Conference will address the region-specific aspects of the conflict—i.e. Unity versus Secession; Unitary versus Federal—Somali elders, artists, poets, and wise men from all of Somalia will participate and share with us their memories of the golden era of Somali nationalism as well as their thought on the serious challenges facing our nation today. The specific objectives of this Conference are the following: To initiate the first ever serious and meaningful dialogue and open discussion on the question of Somali unity, To highlight the mistaken belief that the people of the former British Somaliland are united on seceding from the rest of the country. To emphasize secession as a political strategy is divisive and damaging to the nation state of the Republic of Somalia; and to instead explore effective approaches and strategies to sensitize the Somali people to the dangers of creating “Bantustan-like” enclaves. To highlight those unifying cultural, social and economic factors and shared interests , from the perspectives of wise men and women, poets, artists and professionals, diplomats and intellectuals. To consider suitable strategies to lobby the international community to continue its support for the Somali national unity and territorial integrity and to further consolidate its ongoing tireless efforts to assist the process of reconciliation in Somalia. The details, including updates on the progress of the conference preparatory activities, will be posted periodically on the major Somali websites and the NSPU’s website: www.somaliunity.org. Your support, both moral and financial, towards making this historical event a smashing success will be appreciated. NSPU’s 2006 CONFERENCE ON PEACE & UNITY SPONSORED BY: Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU) PLACE: Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, D.C., USA Date: December 01-02, 2006 CONFERENCE PROGRAM TIME SESSIONS EVENT DESCRIPTION Agenda, Friday December 1, 2006 5:00 PM– 6:30 PM Pre-registration and informal reception 6:30 PM–8:30 PM Preparatory meeting with elders, local organizing committee and Keynote Speakers Agenda, Saturday, December 2, 2006 08:00 AM– 09:00 AM Registration 09:00 AM– 09:30 AM Welcoming participants and Opening Address. Welcoming and introducing the Key Note Speaker, General Jama M. Ghalib. 09:30 AM-10:00 AM General Jama M. Ghalib & Dr. Ali A. Hersi 10:00AM–10:15AM BREAK 10:15AM– 12:30PM SESSION A Territorial Integrity and Challenges to Unity 12:30PM– 1:30 PM Lunch/Salatal Duhur Recognition of Dignitaries 1:30PM – 3:00PM SESSION B Governance and Institution Building 3:00PM – 4:30PM SESSION C Current Affairs/ the Rise of the Islamic Courts 4:30PM – 5:30PM SESSION D Youth and Unity 5:30PM– 6:30PM SESSION E Plenary Session 6:30PM - 8:00PM DINNER/Awards and Recognition of organizers 08:00PM-10:00PM A celebration of Somali Unity : Music, Cultural dance and fun with the Community Agenda, Sunday, December 3, 2006 (Off Site) 10:00 AM – 02:00 PM Preparatory Strategic Meeting for Next Year Conference; and NSPU Annual Meeting Somali Unity Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU)

"Beeni raad ma leh" is a Somali proverb that literally means "a lie leaves no track or trace." This saying reminds Somalis that lies have no foundation and will eventually be discovered Deflating the ICG Balloon Thursday, 01 June 2006 The International Crisis Group’s (ICG) (or the International Crisis Manufacturing Group - ICMG -as others prefer to call them) report resembles a huge balloon that is filled with air. As we all know, it is easy to deflate a balloon by punching a small hole in it. The ICG balloon got prematurely deflated by a grand event that took place on the day before their infamous report on Somalia came out. In a town in the North of Somalia, a new Garaad (Sultan) was crowned in the presence of thousands of ordinary citizens and more than 2500 delegates from all over the world. Malaaqs from Bay and Bakool, Sultans from “Somaliland”, Islaans from Puntland, members of the Transitional Federal Government, members of the “Somaliland” parliament, prominent businessmen like Dahabshiil, members of the ”Somaliland” opposition parties and thousands of intellectuals including the great Somali poet, Mohammed Ibrahim Warsame Hadraawi attended the ceremony. The occasion brought together people the ICG contends would mow each other down to pieces unless “Somaliland” is recognized. The new Garaad who succeeds his late uncle, Garaad Abdul Ghani as the 19th Garaad, vowed to bring the traditional leaders of Somalia together and promote peace, stability and unity in Somalia. In Somalia, milk signifies peace and prosperity; and the milk poured on the new Garaad has great significance for Somalia and the Somalis. The new Garad whose uncle attended the Burao conference where the SNM fighters forced the attendance to declare the unilateral secession of "Somaliland", clearly and unequivocally declared his unionist stand at the presence of all these dignitaries. In the ICG report, The ICG portrays the constituency of the new Garaad as disputed territories with an insignificant minority that would lose the most from any conflict that flares up between Puntland and Somaliland since their territories lie in the frontlines of the conflict. In these remarks, The ICG seems to suggest that the people of these territories better join "Somaliland" in its quest for recognition or else face dire consequences. If The ICG finds it convenient for "Somaliland" to withdraw from the act of Union in 1960, why does it find it difficult to appreciate the fact that the pro-unity regions can also re-affirm their commitment to the same Union? Perhaps what The ICG should have known is that there are many decent northerners who are pro-unity and passionate about the unity of their beloved Somalia, unlike the opportunistic individuals who cling on to a discredited and bankrupt ideology called “Somalilandism”. This secessionist phenomenon in the northern part of Somalia has been spearheaded by a group of narrow-minded Somalis who are in cahoots with some foreign elements like The ICG. The vain attempts by these secessionist ideologues to spread their despicable and misguided vision to the eastern regions of the North were dealt a crushing blow by the speech speech of the new Garaad, which was seen by many as the final nail in the coffin for the exhausted secessionist ideology. The ICG callously ignores the fact that the territory of the Garaad was the centre of the Dervishes resistance army who fought hard against the British invaders for 21 years. It was in this area that the most notable Somali nationalism was seen during the British occupation , and unlike the other territories in the North, the Garaad in this area never signed any agreements with the British.[/b] This was clearly highlighted in an article recently published by the honorable Jama Mohammad Ghalib ironically on the same day the Garaad was crowned. Another important fact left out by the ICG report is that Sultan Mohamoud Ali shire, the sultan of the other territories labeled by them as disputed territories, was vehemently and actively opposed to British rule of his territories and was forcibly exiled to the Seychelles . Hence, these territories are not part of the phantom “Somaliland” whose only legitimacy are colonial borders that evoke bitter memories in the minds of most people in the North. The so called disputed territories constitute more than 1/3 of the so called Somaliland, and the vast majority of its inhabitants are fiercely opposed to the secession promoted by the ill-fated ICG report that cost ICG sponsors thousands of dollars to prepare. It is for sure destined to the dustbin it so rightly deserves. Among the guests who attended the ceremony in Las Anod was Colonel Dhegaweyne a member of the SNM movement that forced Somaliland elders to declare secession from the Somali Republic. In a recent interview with Jamhuuriya, he declared that these territories can no longer be returned to the influence of Somaliland by force and a dialogue should be initiated with their leaders. We hope that such dialogue can be a prelude to better understanding between the Somali people that no ICG report can put asunder. somaliunity

SOMALIA Somalia: Second Islamic court in Las Anod declared By Nov 10, 2006, 22:21 LAS ANOD, Somalia Nov 10 (Garowe Online) - Another Islamic court has been declared in the Puntland regions, even as President Mohamud “Adde” Muse intensified his policy to prevent Islamist rule from taking root in the region. The new Court was declared this week in Las Anod, capital of Sool region, following days of consultations and meetings between the Bah-Hararsame sub-clan that involved traditional chiefs, sheikhs, intellectuals and members of civil society. One delegate confidentially told Garowe Online that, “in the end, the sub-clan [bah-Hararsame] voted to make Shariah [islamic] law as the law of the land.” This is not the first time an Islamic court has been declared in Las Anod. In August, members of another local sub-clan declared an Islamic court, prompting a response from Puntland police who arrested the organizers. Last week, the spokesman for an Islamic court in Galkayo was detained by police sometime after his radio interview aired on the BBC Somali Service. Garowe Online News

Maamul Islaami Ah oo looga dhawaaqay magaalada Laascaanood(Daawo Sawirada) …

Somalia peace deal 'irrelevant' Mr Adan ® appears at odds with the government on several issues Somalia's transitional government has dismissed as irrelevant an agreement struck between a group of Somali MPs and the Union of Islamic Courts. Spokesman Abdirahman Dinari said the MPs - led by parliament speaker Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan - did not have a mandate to negotiate. The MPs went to Mogadishu a week ago after Arab League mediation efforts in the Sudanese capital Khartoum failed. The seven-point agreement called on both sides to agree to return to talks. It also pledged to maintain an arms embargo and prevent any foreign interference in Somalia. However, the transitional government - which has little influence outside the town of Baidoa where it is based - has called for the arms embargo to be lifted and for a foreign peacekeeping force to protect it. The Islamists have taken control of most of southern Somalia since seizing the capital, Mogadishu, in June. 'Unacceptable' The deal was struck late on Friday in Mogadishu. The government responded after a cabinet meeting the next day. "The government does not accept this initiative," Mr Dinari told the Associated Press news agency. "It is totally unacceptable." "Reconciliation is the task of the government," he added. The deal is an attempt to prevent war between militias loyal to the Union of Islamic Courts and the fragile government. Ibrahim Hassan Adow, the Islamic Courts spokesman for foreign affairs, said: "This is a first step, and we are headed for peace." The two parties called on the transitional government to back the deal. Somalia has been in the grip of warlords and militias for years and has not had a functioning national government since 1991.

Axmed Siilaanyo Oo Canaan Kulul Usoo Jeediyay Xukuumada Riyaale (Hargeisa}10.11-6 Guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaradka ah ee KULMIYE, Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo), ayaa ku tilmaamay arrin laga fajaco oo aan laga filayn qof muslim, xilna ka haya dal Islaam ah in uu shaqaalihiisa ku yidhaahdo; "Haddii aydaan xijaabka iska dhigayn Wasaaradda Warfaafinta ka shaqayn maysaan." Hadalkan oo uu Axmed-Siilaanyo ku sheegay waraysi uu shalay la yeeshay telefishanka madaxbannaan ee SLTV, waxa uu ku daba-socday tallaabo ay Wasiirka Warfaafinta ku eedeeyeen laba gabdhood oo ka tirsan shaqaalaha Radio Hargeysa, kuwaas oo sheegay in wasiirku shaqada kaga eryey qaadashada xijaabka iyo niqaamka haweenka muslimka ah. Guddoomiye Siilaanyo, oo tilmaamayey miisaanka arrintani ku leedahay dal ummaddiisu muslim tahay, isla markaana lagaga dhaqmo shareecada diinta islaamka ay ay tahay, "Wax aan laga filayn in uu ku yidhaahdo dad muslim ah oo Soomaali ah." Axmed-Siilaanyo, oo tafaasiil ka bixinayey arrinta lagu eedeeyey Wasiirka, kaas oo uu sheegay in aanay jirin cid u geysatay xukuumadda Madaxweyne Rayaale dhibaatooyinka iyo mushkiladaha uu ku keenay, isla markaana aanay habboonayn in Madaxweyne bulshada masuul uga dhigo ashkhaasta dhaqamadaas leh, "Waayo," ayuu yidhi; "ninkii kunka jeer dhibaatooyinka soo gaadhsiiyey dawladda iyo maamulka Rayaale ee la ogaa. Sida iiga muuqata Ina Rayaale marmar baan is-idhaahdaa iyo sida uu u dhaqmayo garashadiisaa wax u dhiman yihiin. Balse, waar haddii aad ummadda xil u qabatay oo lagu xurmeeyey, xurmada bani'aadamku kaa mudan yahay ma garan wayday," ayuu yidhi Guddoomiyaha xisbiga KULMIYE. Widhwidh Online