No sweat sweet thang, I'm not complaining about the rules. Like any Sport, theres got to be rules. Thats what separates the Champs(me) and the Chumps. Make no mistake there might be some penalties baby, but I always play to win.

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I'm not too surprised that you may see us that way. BUT, let me help some of the guys out there; 2 things: Understanding women and the rules they go by. Understanding a Woman 1.You want REALLY MEANS You want 2.We need REALLY MEANS I want It's your decision REALLY MEANS The correct decision should be obvious by now. 3.Do what you want REALLY MEANS You'll pay for this later. 4.We need to talk REALLY MEANS I need to complain 5.Sure... go ahead REALLY MEANS I don't want you to. 6.I'm not upset REALLY MEANS Of course I'm upset, you moron! 7.You're ... so manly REALLY MEANS You need a shave and you sweat a lot. 8.You're certainly attentive tonight. REALLY MEANS Is sex all you ever think about? 9.I'm not emotional! And I'm not overreacting! REALLY MEANS I'm on my period. 10.Be romantic, turn out the lights. REALLY MEANS I'm Embarrassed 11.This kitchen is so inconvenient REALLY MEANS I want a new house 12.You have to learn to communicate. REALLY MEANS Just agree with me. 13.Yes REALLY MEANS No - No REALLY MEANS No - Maybe REALLY MEANS No 14.Hang the picture there REALLY MEANS NO, I mean hang it there! 15.I heard a noise REALLY MEANS I noticed you were almost asleep. 16.Do you love me? REALLY MEANS I'm going to ask for something expensive. 17.How much do you love me? REALLY MEANS I did something today you're really not going to like. 18.I'll be ready in a minute. REALLY MEANS Kick off your shoes and find a good game on TV. 19.Am I a little fat? REALLY MEANS Tell me I'm beautiful. 20.I'm sorry. REALLY MEANS You'll be sorry. 21.Do you like this recipe? REALLY MEANS It's easy to fix, so you'd better get used to it 22.Was that the baby? REALLY MEANS Why don't you get out of bed and walk him until he goes to sleep. 23.I'm not yelling! REALLY MEANS Yes I am yelling because I think this is important. 24.All we're going to buy is a soap dish REALLY MEANS It goes without saying that we're stopping at the cosmetics department, the shoe department, I need to look at a few new dresses, and those lavender sheets would look great in the bedroom and did you bring your checkbook? Now that you think you understand here are the RULES: 1.The female always makes the rules. 2.The rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification. 3.No male can possibly know all the rules. 4.If the female suspects the male knows all the rules, she must immediately change some or all the rules. 5.The female is never wrong. 6.If the female is wrong, it is because of a flagrant misunderstanding which was a direct result of something the male did or said wrong. 7.If Rule 6 applies, the male must apologize immediately for causing the misunderstanding. 8.The female can change her mind at any given point in time for any reason. 9.The male must never change his mind without express written consent from the female. 10.The female has every right to be angry or upset at any time. 11.The male must remain calm at all times, unless the female wants him to be angry or upset. 12.The female must not, under any circumstances, let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset. 13.Any attempt by the male to document these rules could result in severe bodily harm. 14.If the female has PMS, all rules are null and void

This is a story about a good friend of mine, his gold-digging girl friend and the coldest break-up in the history of pre-marital relationships. About two yrs ago my boy( let's call him X) had the pure fortune of meeting what we (at the time) thought to be the most sophisticated Somali sister on the planet (let's call her Y). She had the looks, the words and was allegedly on a fast track to the top. X is what you might call an entrepreneur who is allergic to the beaten path. His first mistake was being interested in Y because she (allegedly) had her own cash flow and wouldn't be tapping into his. That all changed over the next while and X ( against our advice) indulged this lovely lady with that she asked for. Shit started trickling on to the fan when our vision of loveliness resorted to extortion... "I'll be able to see you this weekend, but can you do me a favor and send $500 to my sister who's sick in Nairobi?" And X ( fitting very comfortable into the role of Punk) would do it. Without dragging this too far, it got to a point where he decided to grow a pair and say no and she put him on ice. Although she'd call him to see if he was still on the hook. Absence may make the heart grow fonder but it does wonders in clearing up foggy sight. Two months, same city, just phone calls. My boy hit the mother of all contracts in the course of a month financed a very nice condo and upgraded his transportation to something with more cylinders, a leather interior, dual climate control and GPS (...like he'll be getting lost in Toronto). But most of all his mother shackles him up to some girl he's never met ( word has it she's a drop dead fox from a respectable family....Yeah right!!!). Now X is coming to terms with this situation, dates have been set and he's actually optimistic about settling down with a girl he's never seen. He get a voice message from Y. "I hope you didn't forget my birthday is this Thursday". What the...? So come Thursday, X goes and picks Y up in his new ride ( I'm pretty sure he went through a car wash, or something), took her to a very nice dinner @ Il Fornello ( the one King St.). After dinner they caught the Lion King ( If you haven't seen it ...See it). After the show he takes her up to Panorama and presents her gift ( a full day @ the Camden Spa on York Mills). He then proceeds to "invite" her to his wedding. ( I would gladly have paid $8.99 + tax to see the look on her face). He put Y on a cab and sent her home. So Y, if you ever come across this post, remember early in the game when you told me you weren't like any other woman I've ever met. You were right, you're the only woman I know who was dumped at Panorama. LOL I have no Idea what the moral of this story is, but I'm sure there's a lesson in here somewhere

Dress Code - CK Contradiction. Casual - Azzaro Chrome.

A woman holding a baby gets on a bus. The bus driver looks at them and says, “Damn, That's the ugliest baby I’ve ever seen!” In a huff the woman slams her money into the farebox and goes to the rear of the bus. The man seated next to her sees she’s agitated and asks what’s wrong. “The bus driver insulted me!” she fumes. “That’s outrageous!” says the man. “He’s a public servant and shouldn’t be insulting passengers.” “You 're right!” the woman says. “I think I’ll go up there and give him a piece of my mind!” “That’s a good idea,” says the man. “'I’ll hold your monkey.”

Mr Millenium, looks like you're not getting the answers you wanted. Try reformatting the question: Somali men compared to what? or who?

Trust is a relative, doesn't matter how you look at it we all give some level of trust...i.e. you cross the street and trust the guy at the red light not to run you over. Personally I give the woman 100% trust until she gives me the slightest reason not to. Then it's down to 0% and she can earn her way back.

Three men lost in the forest were captured by cannibals. The cannibal king told the prisoners that they could live if they passed a trial. The first step of the trial was to enter the forest and get ten pieces of the same kind of fruit. So, all three men went separate ways to gather fruits. The first one came back and said to the king, “I brought ten apples.” The king then explained, “Next, you have to shove the fruits up your butt without so much as an expression on your face, or you’ll be eaten.” The first apple went in, but on the second he winced in pain, and was killed. The second one arrived, and showed the king ten berries. When the king explained the trial to him he thought to himself that this should be easy. 1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…and on the ninth berry, he burst out in laughter, and was killed. The first guy and the second guy met in heaven. The first one asked, “Why did you laugh? You almost got away with it!” The second one replied, “I couldn’t help it, I saw the third guy coming with pineapples.”

"Blow in her ear hole"??? LOL...Poet, brother, I think you missed the word "approach" in the topic. You must be a brave man to slide up next to a strange girl and blow in her ear hole...maybe after she gets down with your vibe, you can walk her to a hospital to get her ear-drum fixed. With all the Cassanovas and stalkers giving advise I can throw in my 2 cents. "Stick and Move"...Make the girl laugh on your first meeting and try not to monopolize her time, she wasn't planning on running into you so make an impression and split.

I very much agree with the original observations but I also see the human nature behind the transformation. People do not like to be different. There is a great comfort in being "normal". Our people didn't change, the definition of "normal" changed. We come from a society that is based on a group of people with similar needs (Family, Clan, tribe) and most western socities are individual based. Now we find that all those who want to be normal must conform with their new surroundings and engage in all the sad behaviours detailed in the first post. Cry for our culture??? No way, my somali culture is alive in me and in most of the people here. And I'd rather lead by example. Someone once said "Stand For Something Or Fall for Everything"

Money is a means, not an end. It's a tool, like the gun that's useless a target. Money is useless if there's nothing to spend it on.

Most of us are now in so called developed countries and if you take the time to look around and see that its a sad state of affairs. Take an objective look at what happened to the Somali family unit upon arrival. The same thing that happens to any visible minority. The family is broken up using pure economics. The man who went out everyday and busted his ass to put food in his familys mouth is undermined and made to feel absolutely worthless. The family that made it (together) through a war and then refugee camps and foriegn lands that neither liked nor respected them, made it to the "free" ( civilised, developed, frist)world. and that man was told he doesn't have the experience or skills to get a job. so what do they do? oh look this government gives out money at the end of every month. good stuff, why work? lets capitalize on this. Suddenly, the wife sees her man at home or at the coffee shop 24/7. he's not helping with any of the house work ( why should he? he's the MAN right?) so she figures I'm getting more $$ than her loser man who can't find a job so she has a few options ( pretty sure he has no say in this) A) He can move to another country to get a job with "self respect" B) She can just kick his ass to the curb - what he going to raise his hand aginst her? (911) C) She can give him some moral support and they can discuss how the family can get through these hard times. Look around you and see how many kids are being raised in single parent homes (not necessarily a bad thing but has more cons than pros). Or the kid wakes up to go to school each morning and daddy doesn't even have a job and spends his day discussing Somali politics and pipe-dreams. ( no wonder the only role models our youth have are Hip Hop singers and criminals). I really sorry for the young kids that come come to these morally-bankrupt societies alone and I sorry I sound bitter. I'm new on this forum and I can honestly say you guys are a welcome breath of fresh air. It seems hope is still alive. B.T.W. the topics and view points here are incredible. I hope to have a chance to share and learn new ideas.

I must say a lot of research went into that article. All stereotypes, but I can appreciate the humour. Now considering all the tribal divisions and their respective stereotypes, can we expect a sequel?