Looks like you totally missed the point :confused:

I guess we agree to disagree on this one, I can respect that and in the end everyone is accountable for their sins. The example you gave was pretty extreme... I wonder how many of the Somali girls in Minnesota were in that life or death situation?

Well Darman, Looks like Lander not only questioned your integrity but dragged it to camp Xray and interrogated the hell out of it :eek: :eek: ....then he took you integrity out side and shot it repeatedly with those pics. He is right, though most "untampered" North American vehicles may have the potential to break those speed limits but are electronic limited to top speeds set by State and Federal regulations.

Originally posted by Asraa: too much maneeno what sre you hiding? I guess privacy is always an issue when choosing. I prefer apartments at this stage of my life because they are low-maintenance. in most cases building management handles stuff. I would live in a house only if it was far from the city so I can hang out in the backyard without listening to traffic.

Imperial, I'm a little disturbed by your definition of pro-choice in an Islamic context. You just said that it's ultimately the woman's choice as to what to do with that baby. My question is WHEN DOES IT STOP BEING HER CHOICE? By your definition, if she decides her 1 yr old baby is becoming a burden shouldn't she be able to drown him/her in the bath tub? And before you run off and say it's not the same, it is the same. For whatever reason life is created, whether it's a beautiful union of a young married couple, the ********* and carelessness of a young teenage couple or the sick attack of rapist on an innocent victim, the moment that fertilization occurs you are dealing with a separate individual who has a right to live. Someone else mentioned being pro-choice because the child might not have a good life ahead of him/her....to the person that posted that, look into your crystal ball and tell me what tomorrow's lottery numbers are. Somalis should know better than anyone else that life can change overnight. you can't predict how that child will live. -I never wanted this baby -I can't put my life on hold to take care of a child -I made a mistake -I can't stand to have a baby that will remind me of his father -I will be disowned by my family I, I, I, I ....you have the privilege of becoming a mother, a giver of life. get over yourself a think of the future (yours and the baby's). But like Imperial said, it's ultimately her choice whether she can take the gift for Allah and make the best of it or she murders a defenseless child.

Boy: Dad, what's politics? Dad: Let me set an example with our family. I have all the money so we'll call me the management. Mom receives most of it so we'll call her the government. We'll call the maid the working class, you are the people, and your baby brother is the future. Do you understand now son? Boy: I still don't understand dad. Dad: Think about it for a while son. That night the boy wakes up because his baby brother is crying. He goes in and finds out he's soiled his diapers. He goes to tell his mom but she's asleep he goes in to the maids room but she's in there having sex with his dad. He bangs on the door but no one can here him. The next day... Son: Dad I understand politics now. Dad: Good, explain it to me in your own words son. Son: The management is screwing the working class while the governmenats is fast asleep. The people are being ignored and the future is full of SH!T!

The difference between men and women in one paragraph: A man is driving up a steep narrow mountain road. A woman is driving down the same road. As they pass each other, the woman leans out the window and yells, "Pig!" The man immediately leans out the window and replies, "B!tch!" They each continue on their way, and as the man rounds the next corner, he crashes into a pig in the middle of the road

"Jane" was becoming frustrated with her husband's insistence that they have sex in the dark. Hoping to free her husband from his inhibitions, during a passionate evening, she flipped on the lamp- -only to discover a cucumber in his hand. Is THIS what you've been using on me for the past 10 years!?!" "Honey! Let me explain!" "Why you sneaky ******* !" she screamed. "You impotent SOB!!" "Wait a minute! Speaking of sneaky!" he interrupted, "Maybe you'd care to explain our 2 kids!!!"

A serviceman was shot down in the desert and captured by the enemy. They took him to the local shah who said 'I will set you free if you can accomplish three things. See those three tents? There is a sumo wrestler in the first tent. If you can defeat him, you can go on to the second tent. In the second tent, there is an elephant with an impacted wisdom tooth. Solve his problem and you can go on to the third tent. In the third tent, there is a nymphomaniac. If you can satisfy her, then I will set you free.' The serviceman went into the first tent with the sumo wrestler. There were a lot of grunts and yelling. The tent was flapping in and out. Finally, the serviceman emerged, totally beaten up, dirty and bloody, but victorious. He was taken to the second tent with the elephant inside. Again, there were grunts and squeals and screams, with the tent sides flapping in and out. Finally, the serviceman emerged, even dirtier and bloodier, but victorious. 'Okay, now where's that lady with the impacted tooth?' he said.

Three bulls heard via the grapevine that the rancher was going to bring yet another bull onto the ranch, and the prospect raised a discussion among them. First Bull: "Boys, we all know I've been here 5 years. Once we settled our differences, we agreed on which 100 of the cows would be mine. Now, I don't know where this newcomer is going to get HIS cows, but I ain't givin' him any of mine." Second Bull: "That pretty much says it for me, too. I've been here 3 years and have earned my right to the 50 cows we've agreed are mine. I'll fight 'im till I run him off or kill 'im, but I am keepin' all my cows." Third Bull: "I've only been here a year, and so far you guys have only let me have 10 cows to "take care of". I may not be as big as you fellows (yet) but I am young and virile, so I simply MUST keep all MY cows." They had just finished their big talk when an eighteen-wheeler pulls up in the middle of the pasture with only one animal in it: the biggest Son-of-Another-Bull these guys had ever seen! At 4700 pounds, each step he took toward the ground strained the steel ramp to the breaking point. First Bull: "You know, it's actually been some time since I really felt I was doing all my cows justice, anyway. I think I can spare a few for our new friend." Second Bull: "I'll have plenty of cows to take care of if I just stay on the opposite end of the pasture from HIM. I'm certainly not looking for an argument." They look over at their young friend, the 3rd bull, and find him pawing the dirt, shaking his horns, and snorting. First Bull: "Son, let me give you some advice real quick. Let him have some of your cows and live to tell about it." Third Bull: "Hell, Mister, he can have all my cows. I'm just making sure he knows I'M a bull!"

A boy and his father visiting from a third world country were at a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and back together again. The boy asked his father, "What is this, Father?". The father responded, "Son I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is!". While the boy and his father were watching wide-eyed, an old lady in a wheelchair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched small circles of lights with numbers above the walls light up. They continued to watch the circles light up in the reverse direction. The walls opened up again and a voluptuous 24-year old woman stepped out. The father said to his son, "Go get your mother!".

A 75-year old man went to his doctor's office to get a sperm count. The doctor gave the man a jar and said, "Take this jar home and bring me back a sample tomorrow." The next day, the 75-year old man reappears at the doctor's office and gives him the jar, which is as clean and empty as on the previous day. The doctor asks what happened, and the man explains, "Well, doc, it's like this. First I tried with my right hand, but nothing. Then I tried with my left hand, but nothing. Then I asked my wife for help. She tried with her right hand, but nothing. Then her left, but nothing. She even tried with her mouth, first with the teeth in, then with the teeth out, and still nothing. Hell, we even called up the lady next door, and she tried with both hands and her mouth too, but nothing." The doctor was shocked. "You asked your NEIGHBOR?" The old man replied, "Yep, but no matter what we tried, we couldn't get the damn jar open!"

Actually, the only point made is that we will not agree on the matter...but if having the last word is important to you then you can have that as well

You win...I lose and hang my head in shame. can we consider this over?

My assumption on your vandetta against men was strictly based on the tone of most of your posts. the only research I needed to do was to read your past comments. I agree you're a very decent Muslim sister, but there is an undeniable anger in your words. I hope you get a chance to pay back the ba$tard that stole or corrupted your kind, gentle feminine character. As far as paving your own way, congratulations and good luck. It's just that the way you brought that up was as if to say "Look at me...I'm taking control of my destiny". Paving your own way should be a personal victory for you. I personally don't think less of people if they don't tell me they're making something of themselves. The only thing I'm sensitive to is your need to disrupt and confront. Trying to find controversy where none exists should be a waste of your time.

Let's not mislead those who are not familiar with our conflict, Anti-FEMINIST not Anti-women If you fail to see the difference then I truly am sorry for you. As far as you "paving your own way", if you believe even a fraction of that manure you're peddling, you wouldn't need to wave it around in search of sympathy, respect and attention. I won't lower myself to a level where I forget the issues and start pointing fingers and calling you names, I trust you to be smart and savvy enough to do that same. What I'm attacking is "male bashing" mentality. If you feel that men have wronged you in some way or the other, aren't you just as bad to wrong them back? And since a Strong offence is the best Defence, are we guys not entitle to protect ourselves? The whole Idea of individual merit and accountabilty seems to have eluded you. But I guess if you don't feel like using you god-given intelligence it's always easier to use a BIG brush and stereotype all the "test!cled ones"

Well Flying, they say imitation is the best form of flattery. Since you and your feminist crew are unwilling, unable or just uncreative enough to find your own thing to do, try not to break a nail. By the way, I think it's time I earned some kind of anti-feminist title.

nothing wrong even if it was.... ...by the way, Nice signature. What are they talking about, House work????

I got two words for you bro, TACT & DIPLOMACY

I don't see why this has to be about stats. If YOU cheat, then you cheat...will it make you feel better if you knew all the other men cheat? What is the big idea of having numbers to support your lack of self-control? I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. People are individuals and they make individual choices. The only stat you will ever know to be 100% true is whether or not YOU did it. everything elese is speculation, entrapment and insecure people trying who need to know what they do is normal and everone else does it too.

A man walks along a lonely beach. Suddenly he hears a deep voice: DIG ! He looks around: nobody's there. I am having hallucinations, he thinks. Then he hears the voice again: I SAID, DIG ! So he starts to dig in the sand with his bare hands, and after some inches, he finds a small chest with a rusty lock. The deep voice says: OPEN ! Ok, the man thinks, let's open the thing. He finds a rock with which to destroy the lock, and when the chest is finally open, he sees a lot of gold coins. The deep voice says: TO THE CASINO ! Well the casino is only a few miles away, so the man takes the chest and walks to the casino. The deep voice says: ROULETTE ! So he changes all the gold into a huge pile of roulette tokens and goes to one of the tables, where the players gaze at him with disbelief. The deep voice says: 27 ! He takes the whole pile and drops it at the 27. The table nearly bursts. Everybody is quiet when the croupier throws the ball. ..... The ball stays at the 26. The deep voice says: SH!T !

20 Correct - Genius 17 Correct - Above Normal 15 Correct - Normal 8 Correct - Nincompoop 6 Correct - Moron 3 Correct - ***** 1. Do they have a 4th of July in England? 2. How many birthdays does the average man have? 3. Some months have 31 days; how many have 28? 4. A woman gives a beggar 50 cents; the woman is the beggar's sister, but the beggar is not the woman's brother, How come? 5. Why can't a man living in the USA be buried in Canada? 6. How many outs are there in an inning? 7. Is it legal for a man in California to marry his widow's sister? Why? 8. Two men play five games of checkers. Each man wins the same number of games. There are no ties. Explain this. 9. Divide 30 by 1/2 and add 10. What is the answer? 10. A man builds a house rectangular in shape. All sides have southern exposure. A big bear walks by, what color is the bear? Why? 11. If there are 3 apples and you take away 2, how many do you have? 12. I have two US coins totaling 55 cents. One is not a nickel. What are the coins? 13. If you have only one match and you walked into a room where there was an oil burner, a kerosene lamp, and a wood burning stove, which one would you light first? 14. How far can a dog run into the woods? 15. A doctor gives you three pills telling you to take one every half hour. How long would the pills last? 16. A farmer has 17 sheep, and all but 9 die. How many are left? 17. How many animals of each sex did Moses take on the ark? 18. A clerk in the butcher shop is 5' 10'' tall. What does he weigh? 19. How many two cent stamps are there in a dozen? 20. What was the President's name in 1950? Answers Below: ============== 1. Yes 2. One 3. All of them (12) 4. The beggar is her sister. 5. He can't be buried if he isn't dead. 6. 6 7. No - because he is dead. 8. They aren't playing each other. 9. 70 10. White. The house is at the North Pole so it is a polar bear. 11. 2 12. 50 cent piece and a nickel. (The other one is a nickel) 13. The match. 14. Half way. Then he is running out of the woods. 15. 1 Hour 16. 9 17. None - Noah took them on the ark. 18. Meat 19. 12 20. Same as it is now, George W. Bush.

Now the woman who came up with that was ANGRY...inta kale been

First grade class comes in from recess. Teacher asks Alice: "What did you do at recess?" Alice says, "I played in the sand box." Teacher says "That's good. Go to the blackboard, and if you can write 'sand' correctly, I'll give you a fresh-baked cookie." She does and gets a cookie. Teacher asks Billy what he did at recess. Billy says, "I played with Alice in sand box." Teacher says, "Good. If you write 'Box' correctly on blackboard, I'll give you a fresh baked cookie." Billy does, and gets a cookie. Teacher then asks Mustaffa Machmoud what he did at recess. He says, "I tried to play with Alice and Billy, but they threw rocks at me." Teacher says, "Threw rocks at you? That sounds like blatant racial discrimination. If you can go the blackboard and write 'blatant racial discrimination' I'll give you a cookie."

I see...thank you.