Mr.Chauvinistic Mysogynist... I'll not answer whateva it is ur waiting 4 ... 'cause u'll simply not understand it. Yet more proof that you didn't even read what I said and are just looking for a fight... I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent

yo, is snoop in this one?

Type "miserable failure" in Google and click "I'm feeling lucky" see what comes up!!

And still no answer.....

Jewel, let try this one more time On the other hand if you're too lazy or too incompetant to maintain YOUR home missed that little word, did we? "IF"...maybe af ingiriiska aa kugucusub. and maybe Athena can provide some proof of where it is that I said women shouldn't get an education. I just hope neither of you is pursuing a career in diplomacy and mediation...take a note pad write down what I said, get a thesaurus give yourself a few days to understand then on Monday repress the need to say things that are uncalled for and retort to the issue at hand. You both seem very smart when you want to be so I'll assume you vulgar comments directed to me are not a front for lack of genuine ideas comments and suggestions.

Jewel, how I'm supposed to debate you on this or any topic if you choose personal attacks directed at me rather than intelligently formatting and presenting your point? That's weak. Try separating your intellect and your emotions, they make an ugly couple. Jawahiir, If you and I don't see things in black and white now it's only a matter of time before the grey gets darker. Seems like we're all loosing sight of how things should be and are conforming to how things are. Can I plan ahead so that my wife doesn't have to wait in line for a subway to take her to that factory or off to clean offices in the middle of the night? Can I try to shield her from the stresses of a mediocre job that does no more than wear her down physically and mentally? There's MY black and white and I haven't given up on it. A lot of you are under some kind of misguided impression that we (men) don't want to share this wonder life of blooming careers and financial success. Lets think about what we're asking for and what we're getting

i guess if all the sistas said today, u know what, forget education, im gonna depend on my farax and be a 50's housewife, with dinner served on time, the kids all taken care of, the house sparkling, all the while, with a smile pasted on my face...reality check ....that's unrealistic and propably won't happen in ur lifetime... Wow Jewel, you're a pessimist. if you won't do those things for your man, what is it that you do for him or your kids? Looks like you misunderstood the meaning of the partnership. A healthy household is one where you have everything you need. The mans job is to provide and your job is make it work. On the other hand if you're too lazy or too incompetant to maintain YOUR home when your man is out busting his a$$ to make sure there's more than dalac-bilaash on your pasta, then carry on with your excuses. "oooh why should I do this?" " ooh why can't you do that?". And before y'all run off calling me chauvinistic mysoginist neanderthal...flex some of those reading and comprehension skills and try to see what I'm saying.

Here we go again mi·sog·y·nist : n. One who hates women. Come on now, Bee, That's a SERIOUS allegation. If I hated you ladies I wouldn't spend all this time here...so go see shayma about that chill pill. Hibo, I'll admit to misinterpreting and converting simple conversations into raven gender superiority issues... If you'll admit the possibility that your first post in this topic may have been a little "inflated" out of proportion. Because if you rationally analyze everything you said and everything I said, we maybe guilty of the same thing. It also seems you fine ladies prefer to have the last word, so should you feel the need to contribute closing arguments I try (hard) not to flare up this issue again.

LOL @ Rudy... Caramel looks like you done started something.... ...but he does have a point. Only "you" know what feels right and what feels wrong to you....and only you know how far you're willing to compromise. ( if you don't know, flip a coin....best 2 outta 3) Ninki tuur leh needs to buy a waterbed.

Bee, Dictionary.com translates Chauvinist as 1: a person with a prejudiced belief in the superiority of his or her own kind 2: an extreme bellicose nationalist [syn: jingoist, jingo, flag-waver, hundred-percenter] Hibo is the one making the sweeping statements on how female superioty is making men scatter like roaches when the lights come on and I'm saying they maybe running for other reasons....so who's the chauvinist? Caramel, thanks for the back-up good to see someone who'll consider all sides of the argument before taking sides based on which washroom you have access to. right back at you

Ok, thats a sad story.

"hadii kale wee nala gadoomee" kulahaa.....LOL Doon miyaa mise waa inataree buur saaran?

you can call me Captain Caveman Thats not the case Bee. Gadhaha in aan uaqliyeyo aanrabey. then I found out in aay difaac xoogle aay galeen. Sidii militarigii mareeykanka aay dhabarka inta isisaarteen started shooting sporadically in every direction. Laantood Qoraxda ma ifto....laakin kibir aay shahaadoyiin mastar ka weyn kuqaateen. isbedelka aay nagasugaayan cakligal mahan. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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we can only go so low

Originally posted by bulo: and also how do you respect her "strong opinion" if you expect her to stand behind you? Does the word "SUPPORT" mean anything to you? only one captain per ship, please and thank you

so if you din't have a boo how would faarax on the street approach you if you're biting heads off?

I thought your boo was supposed to represent for you in public....why are confronting other males anyway?

Is it not competition if your direction is not the same as your man's?

HIBO UnderDog: To me now, you sound like you are too much of a man sorry no offense.. and the more I read into your comments the more I get the impression that you are one of those guys who like to have master/slave relationship with their women.. where she stands behind him and does whatever he dictates her....Just opnion not judgment...so don't get too defensive... I'll come over and poke you in the eye with a blunt stick, hope you won't be offended. The whole Master Slave thing puts images of kunta-kinte in my mind and it's hardly a fair assessment. Some of what you're saying, however, is true. I expect her to stand behind me and respect my wishes and she can expect me to respect her as an intelligent individual with strong opinions. The main point I was making is what you missed. I (personally) can't stand brash behavior in women. Opinionated has the right idea it's not a feminine quality in ANY culture. and I'm not saying don't do it, go right ahead. But don't misunderstand my lack of attraction as fear. Besides if you're all tough and can handle anything and everything this world can throw at you, you don't need a man to do anything for you. And since you're independant and self-sufficient I'll save my services for a woman who needs it and can appreciate a man that will take care of her. I'm looking for a woman I can provide for and protect. Someone who completes my skills not competes with them.

Originally posted by JIDAAWY: i dont think you are seriouse saxib... are you? [/QB] . A handicapped woman who's parents probably can't support and this man is legally assuming responsibilty for her. He's going to take care of her.

LOL...thats hilarious. It may work with your family but how does that go over with everyone else?

You guys have got to let that go. It's not an excuse anymore. Most of the Somali doctors I know are women, so are some of the most successful entreprenuers. Sooner or later you young girls will realize it's not what you say it's how you say it. you may rightly feel that your success allows you to forcefully speak up and be heard...go ahead. But don't compromise the little things that make you a woman. soft and gentle. The moment you lose that, you're now competeing with men not only in the careers but also in personalities and behaviours. So realize that we're not running from your success, we're running from the men you're becoming.

I think what he did was noble.

you girls are comedians. But if thats what you need to tell yourselves to feel better, you go right ahead. *intimidation by opinion and intelligence *threat (to thier manhood, nonetheless... ) wouldn't it be soo convienient for that to be the reason and you can place the blame on the men? Here's a theory, very simple one: -Confrontation, aggression and a high decible level are not feminine qualities. - Men are attracted to feminine qualities so the next time we walk away from your conversation, we're not scared and we're not trying to disrespect you, we just prefer that you don't sacrifice your femininity to display your intelligence. You can be just as smart and opinionated in a gentle way