Ijabo, generally speaking, we're new here and haven't been corrupted to the extent as those who were here before us. BUT, the more we "assimilate", the more we identify with this culture, the more we intertwine and believe they have the same issues as we do and vice-versa we become them. Look around you, the in-thing is to question your beliefs and rebel. As much as some might disagree, you can't serve two masters you're either a Muslim Somali and behave as such in everything you do OR you're a capitalist, opportunist, consumer who will mindless go with the flow of public opinion as long as you FIT in.

Originally posted by BARWAAQO: we will hunt you all down and electrocute you one by one. Mwahahahahahahahahahaha..... Yo, that's funny, Amazon. inta aa bootada naguwadid bastada hagubato, you know Faarax won't see the humor there

I think this story is a exagerrated, but does anyone have any insight on the teachings of the Talmud? ***************************************************** Solly is thirteen years old. He is the son of the livestock-Jew Blumenstock from Langenbach. There is no Jewish school there. Solly therefore has to go to the German school. His schoolmates don't like him. Solly is fresh and insolent. There are always fights. And Solly is always responsible for them. Today Solly doesn't have to go to school. He has to visit a rabbi in the city. A rabbi is a Jewish preacher. And this Jewish preacher wants to see if Solly has diligently studied the teachings of the Jewish religion. Solly has gone to the synagogue. A synagogue is the church of the Jews. The rabbi is waiting for him. He is an old Jew with a long beard and a genuine devil's face. Solly bows. The rabbi leads him to a reading table where there is a large, thick book. It is the Talmud. The Talmud is the secret law book of the Jews. The rabbi begins the examination. "Solly, you have a non-Jewish teacher in school. And every day you hear what the Gentiles say, what they believe, and the laws by which they live . . ." Solly interrupts the rabbi. "Yes, rabbi, I hear that every day. But that doesn't concern me. I am a Jew. I have laws to follow that are entirely different from those of the Gentiles. Our laws are written down in the Talmud." The rabbi nods. "Right! And now I want to hear what you know about them. Give me a few sayings or proverbs that you have heard in the Gentile school!" Solly thinks. Then he says: "A proverb of the Gentiles is: 'Work is no disgrace.'" "What do the Gentiles mean by that?" "They mean to say that it is no disgrace when one has to work." "Do we Jews believe that?" "No, we don't believe that! In our law book the Talmud it is written: Work is noxious and not to be done. Therefore we Jews don't work, but mostly engage in commerce. Gentiles are created to work. In the Talmud it also says: The rabbi teaches: There is no lower occupation than farming. A Jew should neither plow the field nor plant grain. Commerce is far more bearable than tilling the soil." The rabbi laughs. "You've learned very well. But I know another Talmud passage that you must learn." He opens the Talmud. Solly must read: The Gentiles are created to serve the Jews. They must plow, sow, weed, dig, reap, bundle, soft, and grind. The Jews are created to find everything ready. The rabbi continues his examination. "Tell me several more principles or proverbs of the Gentiles!" Solly answers: "The Gentiles say: "Be ever loyal and upright. Honor is the surest defense." "What do the Gentiles mean by that?" "They mean that one should always be honest in life. One should not lie and cheat. That's what the Gentiles say." "And what do we Jews do?" "We may lie and cheat Gentiles. In the Talmud it says: It is permitted for Jews to cheat Gentiles. All lies are good. And furthermore it is written: It is forbidden for a Jew to cheat his brother. To cheat a Gentile is permitted. When we loan the Gentiles money, we must demand usurious interest. For in the Talmud it is written: Concerning robbery it is taught: Gentiles may not rob each other. The Gentile may not rob the Jews. But the Jews may at any time rob the Gentiles. It further says: If a Jew has stolen something from a Gentile and the Gentile discovers it and demands it back, the Jew should simply deny it all. The Jewish court will stand by the Jew. It is also permitted for us Jews to buy stolen goods from a thief, when they come from Gentiles. We Jews may also be fences without sinning before our God. Smuggling and tax evasion are also permitted for us Jews. In the Talmud it is written that we may cheat Gentile authorities of customs and taxes. It says: Smuggling is permitted, for it is written: You need not pay what you owe. Also thievery is permitted for Jews. But we may steal only from the Gentiles. The Talmud says: The words 'Thou Shalt Not Steal' in the text refer only to thievery from Jews. Stealing from Gentiles is not meant." "What does that mean?" the rabbi asked. "That means that we cannot steal from or cheat Jews. But we can cheat Gentiles at any time. That is permitted for us." The rabbi is satisfied. "Excellent! In conclusion, give me several more laws from the Talmud." Solly is delighted with the rabbi's praise. Solly says: "In the Talmud it is written: Only the Jew is human. The Gentile peoples are not called people, rather they are named animals. And because we see Gentiles as animals, we call them goy, it is also permitted for us at any time to perjure ourselves before a Gentile court. In the Talmud it is written: The Jew is permitted to swear falsely before a Gentile court. Such an oath is always to be seen as compelled. Even when a Jew swears by the name of God, he is allowed to tell a lie, and in his heart to reject the oath he has made. Furthermore, in the Book of Sirach it says: Terrify all the nations, 0 Judah! Lift up your hands against the Gentiles! Incite the wrath of the Gentiles against each other and pour out anger! Shatter the princes who are enemies to the Jews." "Enough!" interrupts the rabbi. He comes up to Solly and shakes his hand. Then he says: "You are a fine Talmud student. You will become a real Jew. Always think about what the Talmud demands of you. The teachings and laws of the Talmud are more important and more to be obeyed than the laws of the Old Testament. The teachings of the Talmud are the words of the living Jewish god. He who breaks the laws of the Talmud deserves death. You should think about that throughout your whole life. If you always follow the Talmud laws diligently, you will join our biblical fathers in the Jewish heaven. Amen!" Murder, thievery, and lies Robbery, perjury, and cheating These are all permitted for the Jews, As every Jewish child knows. In the Talmud it is written, What Jews hate and what they love, What Jews think and how they live, All is ordained by the Talmud.

Good to know there's still some sensible people out there. (AFP, January 15, 2004) Malaysia's opposition Islamic Party (PAS) protested the government's move to allow sexy American pop diva Mariah Carey to hold a concert here next month, saying it would encourage moral degradation. In a letter to Tourism Minister Abdul Kadir Sheikh Fadzir, PAS youth wing said Carey's planned concert at a stadium in Kuala Lumpur on February 22 was also disrespectful to Muslims because it coincided with an Islamic religious holiday. "To allow a western artist, especially Mariah Carey who is well-known for her sexy clothing, to perform on Awal Muharram is disrespecting the sensitivities of Muslims and can be seen as challenging the status of Islam as Malaysia's official religion," it said. "We cannot accept such an immoral concert to be held on Awam Muharram or on any other days... it is not only an insult to Muslims but will encourage moral degradation especially among youths." PAS youth wing noted that this was not the first time the tourism ministry had approved such concerts, noting that it also allowed major US rock group Linkin Park to perform here in October. It called for Carey's concert, which is part of her "Charmbracelet" world tour, to be cancelled immediately and urged the government to apologise to Muslims, who make-up some 60 percent of Malaysia's 25 million population. The government should organise more programs to benefit the Muslim community, rather than tarnish good eastern values by bringing in such "obscene and immoral culture," it added.

Sounds to me like you're making my point. The same way it annoys you to have women displayed as sex toys....was that done BY men? or FOR men? Now men are displayed as morons, can I honestly say women are behind it? I don't think so. But it has achieved one thing, it set us in a us against them scenario. Thats the whole point. You might be a victim of the coinditioning thats making you think that MEN are behind it and they're the ones who portray you like peice of meat, so if they're shown as incompetent fools then it's about time. I'm advocating critical thinking....can I get some support?

The notes are from an inexperienced Chilli taster named Frank, who was visiting Texas from the East Coast: Frank: "Recently, I was honoured to be selected as a judge at chilli cook-off. The Judge #3 called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking for directions to the Budweiser truck, when the call came in. I was assured by the other two judges (Native Texans) that the chilli wouldn't be all that spicy and, besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted". Here are the scorecards from the event: Chilli # 1 Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chilli Judge # 1 -- A little too heavy on the tomato. Amusing kick. Judge # 2 -- Nice, smooth tomato flavour. Very mild. Judge # 3 -- (Frank) Holy sh!t, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took Me two beers to put the flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy. Chilli # 2 Arthur's Afterburner Chilli Judge # 1 -- Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang. Judge # 2 -- Exciting BBQ flavour, needs more peppers to be taken seriously. Judge # 3 -- Keep this out of the reach of children. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich manoeuvre. They had to rush in more beer when they saw the look on my face. Chilli # 3 Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chilli Judge # 1 -- Excellent firehouse chilli. Great kick. Needs more beans. Judge # 2 -- A beanless chilli, a bit salty, good use of peppers. Judge # 3 -- Call the EPA. I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now. Get me more beer before I ignite. Barmaid pounded me on the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting sh!t-faced from all of the beer. Chilli # 4 Bubba's Black Magic Judge # 1 -- Black bean chilli with almost no spice. Disappointing. Judge # 2 -- Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chilli. Judge # 3 -- I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it. Is it possible to burn out taste buds? Sally, the barmaid, was standing behind me with fresh refills. That 300-lb. b!tch is starting to look HOT... just like this nuclear waste I'm eating! Is chilli an aphrodisiac? Chilli # 5 Linda's Legal Lip Remover Judge # 1 -- Meaty, strong chilli. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick. Very impressive. Judge # 2 -- Chilli using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. Judge # 3 -- My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead and I can no longer focus my eyes. I farted and four people behind me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chilli had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from the pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my lips off. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop screaming. Screw those rednecks! Chilli # 6 Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety Judge # 1 -- Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chilli. Good balance of spices and peppers. Judge # 2 -- The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb. Judge #3 -- I sh!t myself when I farted and I'm worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that slut Sally. She must be kinkier than I thought. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe my a$$ with a snow cone. Chilli # 7 Susan's Screaming Sensation Chilli Judge # 1 -- A mediocre chilli with too much reliance on canned peppers. Judge # 2 -- Ho hum, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chilli peppers at the last moment. I should take note that I am worried about Judge #3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is cursing uncontrollably. Judge # 3 -- You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I wouldn't feel a thing. I've lost sight in one eye, and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chilli, which slid un-noticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava like poop to match my shirt. At least during the autopsy, they'll know what killed me. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful. Screw it; I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just suck it in through the 4-inch hole in my stomach. Chilli # 8 Tommy's Toe-Nail Curling Chilli Judge # 1-- The perfect ending, this is a nice blend chilli. Not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence. Judge # 2 -- This final entry is a good, balanced chilli. Neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge # 3 passed out, fell over and pulled the chilli pot down on top of himself. Not sure if he's going to make it. Poor dude, wonder how he'd have reacted to really hot chilli?

Red Cross Supports Ban on Homosexual Blood Donors By Lawrence Morahan CNS Senior Staff Writer September 15, 2000 (CNSNews.com) - The American Red Cross, the nation's largest supplier of blood components, supports the current ban on blood donation by men who have engaged in homosexual sex during the past 24 years. In a 7-6 vote, a Food and Drug Administration panel Thursday voted to maintain a ban on blood donations from homosexual men, even though some members of an FDA special advisory panel called the restrictions discriminatory and outdated. The policy - which says men cannot give blood if they've had sex with another man at any time since 1977 - is intended to minimize the risk of spreading HIV and AIDS. Proposed changes would have allowed men to donate blood if they hadn't had sex with another man in the past five years. Those in favor of changing the policy said new blood tests are better able to detect HIV infection. But a majority of the panel said there's not enough scientific data to warrant a change in blood-donor policy. Dr. Rebecca Haley, interim chief medical officer for the American Red Cross, told the committee the Red Cross did not support changing the ban. "If the Public Health Service could assure us that introducing previously deferred donors into the pool could be accommodated without increasing risk, the American Red Cross would support appropriate actions to do so," she said in a statement provided to CNSNews.com. "The safety of the blood supply - and the patients we ultimately serve - must be our number one priority. This is a public health issue, not a social policy issue," she said. The Red Cross is the country's largest supplier of blood components, serving more than 3,000 hospitals nationwide. Last year, the Red Cross collected 6 million units of blood from 4.5 million people. Every day, 22,000 donors visit one of 400 Red Cross blood donation sites, Red Cross figures show. FDA medical officer Dr. Andrew Dayton estimated there are 62,300 homosexual men who want to donate blood but are prohibited from doing so by the current law. Considering the known prevalence of HIV infection in this population, changing to a five-year deferral policy could potentially introduce 1,246 units of HIV-positive blood into the system to be screened. Of this, two units of HIV-infected blood could get into the nation's blood supply, he said. Introducing theoretically over a thousand HIV-positive units of blood into the system prior to testing would be expected to raise risk, Haley said. "Even considering our layers of safety - from the blood donor record questions to the current tests that screen HIV-positive units out of the blood supply - modifying the [male homosexual]-deferral criterion to five years would result in a small but measurable increase in the possibility that an infectious blood unit might be released," she said. The tests routinely performed on all donated blood to detect HIV and other viruses prevent all but about 10 HIV-infected units from entering the blood supply each year, one expert said. The infected blood that defies the testing causes two to three HIV infections a year, he said. Dr. Adrienne Smith of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association, said the current donor ban stigmatizes homosexual men. It is unfair that donors who disclose having engaged in risky heterosexual sexual behavior are only deferred for a year while homosexual men are deferred for a lifetime. But Dr. Jay Epstein, director of the FDA's Office of Blood Research and Review, said data clearly shows that men who engage in high-risk homosexual behavior are much more likely than their heterosexual counterparts to become infected with HIV.

I heard that too, but they can't come out and say that. Might "imply" they have some kind of cudur and that would be an attack on a "protected" group in society. NO NO NO can't have that...oh oh look a terrorist :eek:

Haniif, lets not get extreme here, and Sue, lets chill a bit and work with facts. Originally posted by Megalomaniac: After years sexism towards women and blatant woman bashing and female exploitation,You’re joking RIGHT!!! Please tell me you are! :mad: When did all of these atrocities happen? I know this is supposed to be common knowledge but some proof would be nice. This ties in to that "brainwashing/conditioning" thing where we have been told so many times how women were abused in the past that it has become fact. Work with me here, sister

I agree, sue. Mind control sounds so sudden and impossible, but if you look at it as conditioning then it gets more managable. If you see and hear something long enough it becomes comfortable in your mind and soon enough you start accepting it as normal. Example, since the 80s hundreds of movies have shown arabs as terrorists hijacking planes and "killing the infedels" that for the average north American it's as good as a fact. Homosexuality was introduced in the media and at first everyone was disgusted but it was put in their faces day in and day out,in the news, in movies in magazines and now they're "a major part of society" Little terms in the news that are repeated over and over that we never pay attention to but paint an image in our minds "Palestinian gunmen and Isreali soldiers", "coalition forces and issurgents" "minorities" "third world" "developing nations" "fundamentalists"

Interesting Article: By Michael Abernathy, PopMatters January 16, 2003 Warning for our male readers: The following article contains big words and complex sentences. It might be a good idea to have a woman nearby to explain it to you. It has been a hard day. Your assistant at work is out with the flu and there is another deadline fast approaching. Your wife is at a business conference, so you have to pick up your son at daycare, make dinner, clean the kitchen, do a load of laundry, and get Junior to bed before you can settle down on the sofa with those reports you still need to go over. Perhaps a little comedy will make the work more bearable, you think, so you turn on CBS's Monday night comedies: King of Queens, Yes, Dear, Everybody Loves Raymond, and Still Standing. Over the next two hours, you see four male lead characters who are nothing like you. These men are selfish and lazy, inconsiderate husbands and poor parents. And the commercials in between aren't any better. Among them: A feminine hygiene ad: Two women are traveling down a lovely country road, laughing and having a great time. But wait. One of them needs to check the freshness of her mini-pad, and, apparently, the next rest area is six states away. A woman's voice-over interjects, "It's obvious that the interstate system was designed by men." A digital camera ad: A young husband walks through a grocery store, trying to match photos in his hand with items on the shelves. Cut to his wife in the kitchen, snapping digital pictures of all the items in the pantry so that hubby won't screw up the shopping. A family game ad: A dorky guy and beautiful woman are playing Trivial Pursuit. He asks her, "How much does the average man's brain weigh?" Her answer: "Not much." A wine ad: A group of women are sitting around the patio of a beach house, drinking a blush wine. Their boyfriends approach, but are denied refreshment until they have "earned" it by building a sand statue of David. Welcome to the new comic image of men on tv: incompetence at its worst. Where television used to feature wise and wonderful fathers and husbands, today's comedies and ads often feature bumbling husbands and inept, uninvolved fathers. On Still Standing, Bill (Mark Addy) embarrasses his wife Judy (Jamie Gertz) so badly in front of her reading group, that she is dropped from the group. On Everybody Loves Raymond, Raymond (Ray Romano) must choose between bathing the twin boys or helping his daughter with her homework. He begrudgingly agrees to assist his daughter, for whom he is no help whatsoever. CBS is not the only guilty party. ABC's My Wife and Kids and According to Jim, Fox's The Bernie Mac Show, The Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle, and (the recently cancelled) Titus, and the WB's Reba also feature women who are better organized and possess better relational skills than their male counterparts. While most television dramas tend to avoid gender stereotypes, as these undermine "realism," comic portrayals of men have become increasingly negative. The trend is so noticeable that it has been criticized by men's rights groups and some television critics. It has also been studied by academicians Dr. Katherine Young and Paul Nathanson in their book, "Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture". Young and Nathanson argue that in addition to being portrayed as generally unintelligent, men are ridiculed, rejected, and physically abused in the media. Such behavior, they suggest, "would never be acceptable if directed at women." Evidence of this pattern is found in a 2001 survey of 1,000 adults conducted by the Advertising Standards Association in Great Britain, which found that 2/3 of respondents thought that women featured in advertisements were "intelligent, assertive, and caring," while the men were "pathetic and silly." The number of respondents who thought men were depicted as "intelligent" was a paltry 14%. (While these figures apply to the United Kingdom, comparable advertisements air in the U.S.) Some feminists might argue that, for decades, women on tv looked mindless, and that turnabout is fair play. True, many women characters through the years have had little more to do than look after their families. From the prim housewife whose only means of control over her children was, "Wait till your father gets home!" to the dutiful housewife whose husband declares, "My wife: I think I'll keep her," women in the '50s and '60s were often subservient. (This generalization leaves out the unusual someone like Donna Reed, who produced her own show, on which she was not subservient.) Then, during the "sexual revolution," tv began to feature independent women who could take care of themselves (Mary and Rhoda on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Julia, Alice and Flo on Alice, Louise and Florence on The Jeffersons). So now, 30 years later, you'd think that maybe we'd have come to some parity. Not even. Granted, men still dominate television, from the newsroom to primetime. And men do plenty on their own to perpetuate the image of the immature male, from Comedy Central's The Man Show to the hordes of drunken college boys who show up every year on MTV's Spring Break. What's the problem with a few jokes about how dumb men can be? C'mon, can't we take a few jokes? If only it was just a few. The jokes have become standard fare. Looking at a handful of sitcoms makes the situation seem relatively insignificant, but when those sitcoms are combined with dozens of negative ads which repeat frequently, then a poor image of men is created in the minds of viewers. According to "Gender Issues in Advertising Language", television portrayals that help create or reinforce negative stereotypes can lead to problems with self-image, self-concept, and personal aspirations. Young men learn that they are expected to screw up, that women will have the brains to their brawn, and that childcare is over their heads. And it isn't just men who suffer from this constant parade of dumb men on tv. Children Now reports a new study that found that 2/3 of children they surveyed describe men on tv as angry and only 1/3 report ever seeing a man on television performing domestic chores, such as cooking or cleaning. There are far too few positive role models for young boys on television. Moreover, stereotypical male-bashing portrayals undermine the core belief of the feminist movement: equality. Just think. What if the butt of all the jokes took on another identity? Consider the following fictional exchanges: "It is so hard to get decent employees." "That's because you keep hiring blacks." "I just don't understand this project at all." "Well, a woman explained it to you, so what did you expect?" "I can't believe he is going out again tonight." "Oh please, all Hispanics care about is sex." All of these statements are offensive, and would rightfully be objected to by advocates of fair representation in the media. However, put the word "man" or "men" in place of "blacks," "woman," and "Hispanics" in the above sentences and they're deemed humorous. Are men who ask to be treated civilly overly sensitive or are we as justified in our objections as members of NOW, the NAACP, GLAAD, and other groups which protest demeaning television portrayals, whether those portrayals are on sitcoms, dramas, advertisements, or moronic tv like The Man Show. Most of the shows I'm talking about are popular. Maybe that means I am being too sensitive. Yet, many U.S. viewers didn't have a problem with Amos and Andy or I Dream of Jeannie, both famous for their offensive stereotypes. These shows enjoyed good ratings, but neither concept is likely to be revived anytime soon, as "society" has realized their inappropriateness. All this is not to say buffoonery – male or female – isn't a comic staple. Barney on The Andy Griffith Show, Ted on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Kramer on Seinfeld were all vital characters, but the shows also featured intelligent males. And these clowns were amusing because they were eccentric personalities, not because they were men. The same could be said of many female characters on tv, like Alice's Flo, Friends' Phoebe, or Karen on Will & Grace. Good comedy stems from creative writing and imaginative characterizations, not from degrading stereotypes. Fortunately, some people are working to change the way television portrays men. J. C. Penney recently ran an ad for a One Day sale, with a father at the breakfast table, with his infant crying and throwing things. The father asks the child when his mother will be home. Lana Whited of The Roanoke Times, syndicated columnist Dirk Lammers, and the National Men's Resource Center were just a few who objected to this image of an apparently incompetent and uncaring father, one who would let his child cry without making any attempt to calm him. Penney's got the message; their recent holiday ad features a father, mother, and son all happily shopping together. Few men I know want a return to the "good ole days." Those generalizations were as unrealistic as the idea that all men are big slobbering goofballs. Hope lies beyond such simplistic oppositions, in shows like The Cosby Show or Mad About You, which placed their protagonists on level playing fields. Paul Reiser and Cosby did, on occasion, do moronic things, but so did Helen Hunt and Phylicia Rashad. People – because they are people, not just gendered people – are prone to fall on their faces occasionally. Undoubtedly, there are men out there who are clones of Ward Cleaver, just as there are men who resemble Al Bundy. But the majority is somewhere in between. We're trying to deal the best we can with the kids, the spouse, the job, the bills, the household chores, and the countless crises that pop up unexpectedly. After all that, when we do get the chance to sit down and relax, it would be nice to turn on the tv and not see ourselves reflected as ****** .

Haniif, Opinionated has left my airspace so I'm we're back down to DEFCON 4. As for the info, run a search on Dajjal or Mahdi (better to use both) on Google and you'll get a ton of info.

This is a lose lose situation. You're stuck between the your julliet and a woman with as little moral character as you. Here's what you do. Once you're done crying and thinking your life is over you compose yourself, come to terms with the fact that its all YOUR FAULT and you will BURN for this. As soon as you tell the love of your life what went down, the 10 pounds of sh!t in the 5 pound bag hits the jet turbine and she is rightfully GONE like a thief in the night. Now you only have the skank...oops I mean the mother of your child.

Bro, say there are 3 women: 1)Doesn't cook and would rather eat out or have you cook 2)Cooks but won't do it two days in row because you should be sharing in the cooking duties 3)Cooks and makes sure there's a hot dish on the table for you when you get home (including the big piece of hilib) and breakfast before you leave and brown bag it for you for lunch. if everything else is equal about these three women, who wins your heart?

Rudy, Bro, before you discuss the girl, you need to "boost" your stock price. If he's Old Skool you address him as Adeer/Abti. Then you have to find a way to "let it slip" that you're in your 7th year of Med school and in the mean time you have a lucrative medicine export business to Somalia. Tell him how you're trying to expand the business to ________ (insert his home region here) and ask if he has some contacts in the area. Now that the Rudy stock is going through the roof, explain how you are in the market for a well-mannered, intelligent, God-fearing woman like his Junior-xaliimo to make your house a home. It's also key to slip in little details about -never married before -no ***** children running around looking like mini-rudy - The only criminal file you have is immigration related -2 of your uncles were on the Somali Olympic squad (good genes) Then you should be fine

I did WHAT?????? I may have stated my opinion on the matter but I didn't and won't call names. Not sure where you got that idea but I'm not picking a fight here. I may not agree with your views, but I can respect your right to have them. I'm sorry if you feel personally targeted but my intention was not such. Like yourself, I respond to posts to state my views.

I'm sorry if my conscious decision to inform myself and not live (as you do )with my head firmly planted in the ground is not to your approval. If you wish to blind yourself, go right ahead. I was shaken by this and I presented it to those who would read it and find some value in it's knowledge. If you don't like the program, change the channel.

I would say Value is relative to need. It's all a matter of why. Money is always a means to an end. A stack of $100 bills is only as good as what it can buy you. We all have need to consume, it's in our nature. Now the Value of what you need to consume is always greater than things of less interest to you. So in essence, value is determined by how the object can help you fulfill the need. Example if you have a need to drive, a honda accord and a bentley should have the same value, right? Not if your need to make a satement of wealth and oppulence. So value is is determined but the end purpose of your intentions.

Culpepper to Moss, thats the best thing the vikings will ever see. You don't just replace a QB like Culpepper. I'd easily put him in the Top 5 with McNair, Vick, Pennington and Favre. Peyton Manning can kiss my a$$ - always chokes, just won his first playoff game. Well Guess what!!!! The Indy Defense CAN'T STOP PRIEST.

It's been said it will be ethiopians that destroy the Ka'aba.

Sue, things change and no system is perfect. ever since they started categorizing, labelling, filling and databasing people they always had some incredible system that couldn't be beat. First they tried registering people at birth and we found a way around that (I'm sure there people here with multiple birth certificates). Then you get some kind of ID cards, drivers licenses and SSN which some people found to be a very lucrative business( and they say we're not capitalists). Then they finger-printed as telling us that no two prints are alike (I don't buy that too much because they wouldn't need to start new retina and cornea scaning if the finger print thing was full-proof). They introduced high security passports that allegedly could never be tampered with (then nomads started mysteriously appearing wandering around European airports with no documentation). So this is just the next step and remember the saying "Necessity is the Mother of Invention".

Ameenah, Sorry it came out that way but it wasn't what I was implying. The point I was trying to make was that our beliefs might make us targets these days, but they've always kept us united and on the right track. I think the strategy of "divide and conquer" applies when they make us start suspecting the very brothers and sister who would have your back in hard times. The best thing we can all do is THINK. I'll call a spade a spade when I SEE the spade not when I'm TOLD it's there by people who deceive for a living.

You'd rather not know??? Show of hands, how many people think the term IN DENIAL is a good match with our sister Opinionated? Playing devils advocate is cute at first, but Who are you? and What do you stand for?

Irshad Manji is a capitalist and in North America in this day and age 2 things sell very well. I the US, anything with an American Flag or American colors and for the rest anything that critizes Islam. For someone like Manji who has identified her life as a rebellion against conformity, she was in the perfect position to cash in on the hype around islam. Originally posted by Opinionated: As for the feminist part of the your post Jazeera, why must we always put feminism in such a negative connatation? Are we so againt Women's rights? I am feminist (pro-woman's rights), does that make me a nonmuslim or discredit the work that I do? Opinionated, I know this might sound bad but when I heard Irshad's alleged points and her argument I thought of you. Sorry. by the way, here's some reading for you. http://www.dadi.org/modratfm.htm

....This is actually in our future. A. The occurences before the Major Signs: GENOCIDE A man from Abu Sufyaan’s progeny massacres descendents of Nabi (S.A.W) and rules over Syria and Egypt. WAR A major war between Muslims and Christians: Half the Christian army will sign a peace treaty with the Muslim army, while the second half of the Christian army remains the common enemy. ISTANBUL CONQUERED BY CHRISTIANS The enemy half of the Christian army conquers Constantinople (Istanbul), Turkey. ISTANBUL RECONQUERED JOINTLY BY MUSLIM AND CHRISTIANS The Muslims and the good half of the Christian army conquer Constantinople together, against the enemy Christians. Thereafter, a Christian will say the victory was due to the cross, and the Muslim will say it was due to Islam. A battle between both sides will ensue, and the Muslim Ruler will be martyred. SYRIA CONQUERED BY CHRISTIANS The two Christian armies reunite, conquering Syria. CHRISTIAN DOMINATION Christians dominate the world up to Khaiber (near Madinah), and they will pursue Muslims with 80 flags, with 12,000 men under each flag. MUSLIMS AWAIT Imaam Mahdi TOTAL ECLIPSE A total eclipse of the sun and moon will occur in Ramadhaan, prior to Imaam Mahdi’s emergence. IMAAM MAHDI EMERGES At age 40, Imam Mahdi appears in Makkah, then flees to Madinah. B. The Major Signs (i.e. events after the emergence of Imam Mahdi) MUSLIM ARMY MARCHES The army of Mansoor from Khurasaan will head towards Makkah to aid Imam Mahdi. They will win many battles on the way. No force will be able to stop them. They will carry black flags. SUFYAANI ARMY SWALLOWED BY THE EARTH. The Sufyaani army (an Anti-Muslim force) from Syria singles out Imam Mahdi for execution. On the way to Makkah, they get swallowed into the ground. A second Sufyaani army is created with 960,000 men (of 80 nations). CONFRONTATION IN SYRIA Imam Mahdi and the Muslim army go to Syria to confront the Christians. The Christians, before the battle, will ask Muslims for the return of their prisoners-of-war. The Muslims will refuse. The battle will begin. One-third of Imam Mahdi’s army will flee (their repentance will not be accepted), one-third will be martyred, and one-third will gain victory over the Christians. MUSLIM ARMY UNDER IMAAM MAHDI CONQUERS PALESTINE JIHAAD ON INDIA A jamaat of Muslims wages Jihaad on India and be successful. SYRIA UNDER MUSLIM RULE Imam Mahdi returns to Syria and establishes Muslim rule over the lands he passes. ANIMOSTIY RIFE AMONGST THE PEOPLE At this time, Muslims will be weak and there will be very few pious people. 3 RUMORS OF EMERGENCE OF Dajjaal ("Anti-Christ")... 3 YEARS OF DROUGHT Before the emergence of Dajjaal there will be three years of drought. The first year, the skies will retain 1/3 of its water, the second year 2/3, and all of its water the third year. DAJJAAL APPEARS Dajjal appears. His followers, the Yahudis, will number 70,000 and will wear expensive silk attire and carry double edged swords. Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam (JESUS) APPEARS Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam descends during the lifetime of Imaam Mahdi. DAJJAL KILLED AT THE GATE OF HUDD Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam kills Dajjal at the Gate of Hudd, near an Israeli airport, in the valley of “Ifiq.” The final war between the Yahudi's will ensue, and the Muslims be victorious. TOTAL PEACE With the death of Dajjal, all wars will end. Jihad will be stopped; peace, harmony, and tranquility will be on earth. The earth will produce abundant crops and fruit. The people will follow Islam. HADHRAT ISA RECEIVES REVELATION The revelation tells that the Yajooj and Majooj will soon be released and the believers should be taken to Mt. Toor (Sinai). Yajooj And Majooj ("Gog and Magog") RELEASED The Yajooj and Majooj surge forth in large numbers. They destroy everything in their path in their effort to conquer the world. They will be released in two groups. YAJOOJ AND MAJOOJ REACH JERUSALEM When they reach Mount Khamrin in Jerusalem, they will proclaim to have conquered the world. Then the will shoot arrows into the sky to conquer the heavens. The arrows will return blood stained. HARDHSHIPS ON MOUNT TOOR Scarcity of provisions and hardships will afflict the Muslims. Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam and the Muslims will pray for the removal of the calamity. YAJOOJ AND MAJOOJ KILLED BY INFECTIONS Their prayers were answered and the Yajooj and Majooj develop boil infections, causing them to burst simultaneously as a result. EARTH FULL OF STENCH OF CORPSES Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam and his companions pray again and huge birds are sent to pick up the Yajooj and Majooj corpses and dispose of them in Nahbal (according to Tirmidhi), the ocean or elsewhere. PEACE ON EARTH It will rain for forty days and the earth will be cleansed. Muslims will burn the bows and arrow of Yajooj and Majooj for 7 years. Life will be peaceful while Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam is alive. The earth will be bountiful. Hadhrat Eisa will live 19 years after marriage. HADHRAT ISA PASSES AWAY AND BURIED NEXT TO MUHAMMED (S.A.W.) OTHER LEADERS FOLLOW AFTER HADHRAT EISA alayhis salaam Jahjaan from Qahtaan, from a tribe in Yemen, will rule as the next Khalifa. Muquad, from a tribe of Banu Tamim will also be a deputy. SOCIETY SLOWLY DECAYS AND KUFR SETS IN The Final Signs of Qiyaamah: 1 THE CAVING IN OF THE GROUND The ground will cave in: one in the east, one in the west, and one in Hejaz, Saudi Arabia. 2 THE FORTY DAY SMOKE/FOG Fog or smoke will cover the skies for forty days. The non-believers will fall unconscious, while Muslims will be ill (develop colds). The skies will then clear up. 3 THE NIGHT OF THREE NIGHTS A night three nights long will follow the fog. It will occur in the month of Zil-Hajj after Eidul-Adha, and cause much restlessness among the people. 4 THE RISING OF THE SUN IN THE WEST After the night of three nights, the following morning the sun will rise in the west. People’s repentance will not be accepted after this incident. 5 THE BEAST FROM THE EARTH APPEARS One day later, the Beast from the earth will miraculously emerge from Mount Safaa in Makkah, causing a split in the ground. The beast will be able to talk to people and mark the faces of people, making the believers’ faces glitter, and the non-believers’ faces darkened. 6 THE BREEZE FROM THE SOUTH A breeze from the south causes sores in the armpits of Muslims, which they will die of as a result. 7 DESTRUCTION OF THE KA’ABA The Ka’aba will be destroyed by non-Muslim African group. Kufr will be rampant. Haj will be discontinued. The Qur’an will be lifted from the heart of the people, 30 years after the ruler Muquad’s death. 8 FINAL SIGN OF QIYAAMAH: FIRE IN YEMEN The fire will follow people to Syria, after which it will stop. COMMENCEMENT OF QIYAAMAH Some years after the fire, Qiyaamah begins with the Soor (trumpet) being blown. The year is not known to any person. Qiyaamah will come upon the worst of creation.