I'll be the bigger man and let this go.

Originally posted by Qac Qaac: Ok honestly waan fahmay sheekada hadda. ragga wax garad ka ah oo dhan, sida Jamaal_11, Mopp deep,... and mony more even the girls would agree with u, but they scared if they break this womenhood. going on. wax garad noqda ppl. and understand what ppl are saying. to bu a just, even if it is against you the trueth u tell it... but unfortunetly our girls took it another way.... Hibo i have to admit, u and caramel Kisses aa meesha ugu akhyaarsan. kuwa kale, markii laga reebo gabdha dhinaca islam section ku jira, qeelo socoto kaliya, waaya. confrontation lee ku jiraan. Jerry springer show ee ubadaleen hadda topic kaygii oo is dhahaya aan wax ka fa'iidaysta. when did we ever say something about siraj wahaaj. bisinka aree ku waan maxay soo cabeen maanta kululaa.. Qac, Xariif intaas 100% aan kuguraacey. Cartel maafia aah aa meesha heeysta. markaad rabtid in aa walaalaha ucilmiyeesid ama ka fa'iidaysatid, naageys aa laaluush ahan ubixinay, ama sidii tisxi xaar arkay aa laguuguso degaa. Keep watching what you say, how you say it and who you say it to. Laakin shan ama lix gabar oo boqoradho aah aa kudax gamban.

War has never been a gender issue. Conflict is ultimately about freedom from oppression. If someone walks into your home against your will what do you do? you FIGHT to protect whats yours. If you are already under the thumb of a system that's bleeding you to death, what do you do? you fight. Advocating Peace and diplomacy is great when you're dealing with fair people, but if they were fair the wouldn't be an oppression problem anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a war monger but there is a limit to how far innocent people can be pushed before they have nothing left to lose.

That happened to me too...a go out and get a nice ride and cool crib so that I can kick the party life into high gear, then "responsibility" kicked in and the charm and appeal of the fast life disappeared. Travel is a great idea, go see different things...you never know, you might not want to come back

Typical, its just like you men to never take a debate with a woman seriously can you quote me ONE thing X said that I should take seriously? Hey, if X doesn't have the means to articulate herself, how's that my fault? AND why is that when one woman is put on the spot it automatically consitutes and attack on women everywhere? I better watch what I say before the Feminist branch of homeland security kicks down my door and drags me to Guantanemo. And at some point we can drop this "He said" "she said" stuff and get back to the only trully debateable topic here which is the issue on war.

somealien My point is Lead or be Led. Tuugiye's comment about a woman behind every great man is "selective". There's also women behind some men that failed. A supporting woman is the best ally you can have but supporting women are not easily found. A large number of women(and Men) are critics/back-seat drivers/monday morning quaterbacks. I'm saying pick a destination and GO. if you have good support(gender irrelevant)who's got your back you'll make it and if you don't they'll keep you down. Make your choice and stick with them.

waxaan oo kale dhiigaa igu karo Tuugiye, Wax yar yar hadaa Dhiig Kar kaqaadeysid waa kaa ilaalinaa. However you failed to see that the point I was making was not religious, it was more "social". Besides where's all this "Sexist" crap coming from? p.s.-pass the khat and french vanilla..i wanna be u when i grow up You need to take it easy with the stereo typing. I didn't say X was wrong I'm just disappointed she couldn't state here position and support it. (good thing about written posts is that you can go back see what was said). Tuugiye made a point and backed it up, too bad he's too much of idealist to see what how the point I was making reflected on his position.

I propose we develop a new stategy. Every Xaliimo will be equipped with two flags, a white flag and a red flag. When you're walking down the street being all you can be and you don't want faarax inoo suuqa kaa xirto, do your thing, put away your flags. when you "wouldn't mind" some assistance even though it's not an emergency, put up your white flag and any faarax in the vacinity can help. From time to time, things get outta hand and you need back-up ASAP, in situations like that after you're done calling everyone you know, raise your red flag and sit tight, ruckus and mayhem are on the way. This proposal is a working in progress, contributions welcome.

The sarcasm was cute the first few times, now its just sad. why don't you just run along and come back when you have something to contribute. Every great leader had a strong woman backing him up. Tuujiye, here's how I interpret that: Everybody on earth dies and goes to heaven. An Angel comes and says "I want the men to make two lines. One line for the men that dominated their women on earth and the other line for the men that were dominated by their women. Also, I want all the women to go with St Peter." Said and done, the next time the angel looked the women are gone and there are two lines. The line of the men that were dominated by their women was 100 miles long, and in the line of men that dominated their women, there was only one man. The angel got mad and said, "You men should be ashamed of yourselves. you were all whipped by your mates. Look at the only one of my you that stood up and made me proud. Learn from him! Tell them son, how did you manage to be the only one in this line? And the man replied, "I don't know, my wife told me to stand here".

Originally posted by x_quizit: wow...once again, u proved ur mental superiority...bravo...i knew there was a reason i went to see a shrink, unstable huh..thxs for the tip. let me get back to the kitchen and think about ur comment. p.s.-pass the khat and french vanilla..i wanna be u when i grow up I'll take that as a sign that you're out of intelligent responses. ***Note to self: if you wrote book on the skills of logical and rational debate, you'd make a fortune in here***

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Ok Ok...why don't you relax, take a deep breath and put the gun down. Firstly, you too unstable to discuss the finer points of standing up for yourself (that includes war at some level). Secondly, how am supposed to have a conversation about the whole thing if you're being all sarcastic and jilted. Thirdly, as far as "blatant sexist comments" go, I was just following the trend set by the poster before me. or did your poor over-worked brain miss that one. :confused:

LOL @ jiirus! Socrates, I don't imply, I'm saying, if the girl knows you and she don't want to ride with you, maybe she knows something we don't. Jiirus

Originally posted by x_quizit: But what do i know, i guess im consumed by too many issues that requires my futile brain to overwork. There you go proving my point(The feminine issue here being Paranoia). No need to take this personally. My stand point on a topic should not be a a put down to you. See, us MEN know that we can agree to disagree. Everything doesn't have a "common ground" that we can negotiate to. And as for War, We might all be enslaved if we don't have the courage to fight.

Sis, Men don't need a forum. We don't have enough issues to require allocation of web space.

Socrates, maybe if you spent more time at school she'd know who you are and accept the ride. OR She knows exactly who you are and wouldn't accept the ride regardless of weather. Either way you get some Ajiir points for the goodwill attempt.

Martha Stewart???? I thought this was about the fake Mars mission. It was all done in a closed set somewhere. Fake a mission so that the billions that go to the Mars mission are actually financing the "covert" war on "terror". Same way they faked the moon landing to finance the black bag operations to bring down the soviet union.

One evening I had turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother's. "You think as much as college professors, and college professors don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking we won't have any money!" "That's a faulty syllogism," I said impatiently, and she began to cry. These two conversations are by FAR the funniest things I've heard in a LONG time

Two Ethical Questions! 1)If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had eight kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion? 2)It is time to elect the world leader, and your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates: Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day. Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whisky every evening. Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any extramarital affairs. Which of these candidates would be your choice?

The following concerns a question in a physics degree exam at the University of Copenhagen. "Describe how to determine the height of a skyscraper with a barometer." One student replied: "You tie a long piece of string to the neck of the barometer, then lower the barometer from the roof of the skyscraper to the ground. The length of the string plus the length of the barometer will equal the height of the building." This highly original answer so incensed the examiner that the student was failed. The student appealed on the grounds that his answer was indisputably correct, and the university appointed an independent arbiter to decide the case. The arbiter judged that the answer was indeed correct, but did the problem it was decided to call the student in and allow him six minutes in which to provide a verbal answer which showed at least a minimal familiarity with the basic principles of physics. For five minutes the student sat in silence, forehead creased in thought. The arbiter reminded him that time was running out, to which the student replied that he had several extremely relevant answers, but couldn't make up his mind which to use. On being advised to hurry up the student replied as follows: "Firstly, you could take the barometer up to the roof of the skyscraper, drop it over the edge, and measure the time it takes to reach the ground. The height of the building can then be worked out from the formula H = 0.5g x t squared. But bad luck on the barometer." "Or if the sun is shining you could measure the height of the barometer, then set it on end and measure the length of its shadow. Then you measure the length of the skyscraper's shadow, and thereafter it is a simple matter of proportional arithmetic to work out the height of the skyscraper." "But if you wanted to be highly scientific about it, you could tie a short piece of string to the barometer and swing it like a pendulum, first at ground level and then on the roof of the skyscraper. The height is worked out by the difference in the gravitational restoring force T = 2 pi sqroot (l / g)." "Or if the skyscraper has an outside emergency staircase, it would be easier to walk up it and mark off the height of the skyscraper in barometer lengths, then add them up." "If you merely wanted to be boring and orthodox about it, of course, you could use the barometer to measure the air pressure on the roof of the skyscraper and on the ground, and convert the difference in millibars into feet to give the height of the building." "But since we are constantly being exhorted to exercise independence of mind and apply scientific methods, undoubtedly the best way would be to knock on the janitor's door and say to him 'If you would like a nice new barometer, I will give you this one if you tell me the height of this skyscraper'."

Never let it be said that ground crews and engineers lack a sense of humor. Here are some actual maintenance complaints/problems, generally known as 'squawks', recently submitted by pilots to maintenance engineers. After attending to the squawks, maintenance crews are required to log the details of the action taken to solve them. P = the problem logged by the pilot. S = the solution and action taken by the engineers. P - Left inside main trye almost needs replacement. S - Almost replaced left inside main tyre. P - Test flight OK, except Autoland very rough. S - Autoland not installed on this aircraft. P - No. 2 propeller seeping prop fluid. S - Seepage normal, Nos. 1, 3 and 4 propellers lack normal seepage. P - Something loose in cockpit. S - Something tightened in cockpit. P - Dead bugs on windshield. S - Live bugs on backorder. P - Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200-fpm descent. S - Cannot reproduce problem on ground. P - Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S - Evidence removed. P - DME volume unbelievably loud. S - Volume set to more believable level. P - Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S - That's what they are there for! P - IFF inoperative. S - IFF always inoperative in OFF mode. P - Suspected crack in windscreen. S - Suspect you're right. P - Number 3 engine missing. S - Engine found on right wing after brief search. P - Aircraft handles funny. S - Aircraft warned to "Straighten up, Fly Right, and Be Serious." P - Target radar hums. S - Reprogrammed target radar with words. P - Mouse in cockpit. S - Cat installed.

It started out innocently enough. I began to think at parties now and then to loosen up. Inevitably though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than just a social thinker. I began to think alone - "to relax," I told myself - but I knew it wasn't true. Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking all the time. I began to think on the job. I knew that thinking and employment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself. I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read writings of Plato, Saint Augustine of Hippo, Jesus Christ, and Aristotle. I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, "What is it exactly we are doing here?" Things weren't going so great at home either. One evening I had turned off the TV and asked my wife about the meaning of life. She spent that night at her mother's. I soon had a reputation as a heavy thinker. One day the boss called me in. He said, "Skippy, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your thinking has become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have to find another job." This gave me a lot to think about. I came home early after my conversation with the boss. "Honey, " I confessed, "I've been thinking..." "I know you've been thinking," she said, "and I want a divorce!" "But Honey, surely it's not that serious." "It is serious," she said, lower lip aquiver. "You think as much as college professors, and college professors don't make any money, so if you keep on thinking we won't have any money!" "That's a faulty syllogism," I said impatiently, and she began to cry. I'd had enough. "I'm going to the library," I snarled as I stomped out the door. I headed for the library, in the mood for Clinton's latest book "Family Morals in America". Listening to a PBS station on the radio, I roared into the parking lot and ran up to the big glass doors... they didn't open. The library was closed. Later, I realized that a Higher Power was looking out for me that night. As I sank to the ground clawing at the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster caught my eye. "Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life?" it asked. You probably recognize that line. It comes from the standard Thinker's Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker. I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational video; last week it was "Jerry Spinger" talking about the song "I'm bad" by Michael Jackson. Then we share experiences about how we avoided thinking since the last meeting. Life just seemed .. more bland .. without purpose or meaning, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking, and avoided thoughts about the meaning of life and my future. I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home and the office. Now I stare for hours at the T.V. and receive my daily dose of brainwashing instead of contemplating the mysteries of life. Have you joined Thinker's Anonymous yet?

You know you work in Corporate America if ... 1) You've sat at the same desk for 4 years and worked for three different companies. 2) Your resume is on a disk in your pocket. 3) When someone asks about what you do for a living, you lie. 4) You get really excited about a 2% pay raise. 5) You learn about your layoff on CNN. 6) Your biggest loss from a system crash is that you lose your best jokes. 7) Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job. 8) You sit in a cubicle smaller than your bedroom closet. 9) Salaries of the members on the Executive Board are higher than all the Third World countries' annual budgets combined. 10) It's dark when you drive to and from work. 11) Fun is when issues are assigned to someone else. 12) "Communication" is something your group is having problems with. 13) You see a good looking person and know it is a visitor. 14) Free food left over from meetings is your main staple diet. 15) Weekends are those days your spouse makes you stay home. 16) Being sick is defined as can't walk or you're in the hospital. 17) You're already late on the assignment you just got. 18) Dilbert cartoons hang outside every cube. 19) Your boss' favorite lines are "When you get a few minutes", "In your spare time", "When you're freed up", and "I have an opportunity for you." 20) Your relatives and family describe your job as "works with computers".

The eye of the beholder makes her beautiful. The matter is out of her hands. she just does what she does and someone else views her and classifies her as beautiful (or not). So you can conform to normally accepted definitions of beauty but at the end of the day you have NO influence over the grade you get.