Loads of horse and sheep manure combined, is what I would say. If you want to go case by case, afro, of course you'll find reasons for not watching anyones back. Since you're advocating selfish behavior, you tell me if there is any case where you would feel a need to tell your boy anything he might need to know. Cause the kind of friend that can't say, "hey check your blindspots cause this chick is shifty" is the same 'friend' that will leave you in a group fight to "go for help".

Originally posted by Kaleidoscopic: I think that’s very sound advice. But I wonder if you’re one of those people who say “do as I say, not as I do!â€. What would possibly give you that idea? I would have you know 'old' models are classic Afro2, I got no beef with classics....but some of the Girls might not like being called antiques

I hope you're not implying you've been parked too long and need to go for a short drive to make sure the engine still runs as it should? Since you've dubbed me the 'expert' I would say find a driver to take ownership of the vehicle before it looses value and is overlooked for newer flashier models

My moral character is tight. How's yours?

Probably? and if she doesn't know? are you that indifferent and the well being of someone you refer to as a friend?

Didn't brush you off Afro. You tell me what 'mistake' would warrant a warning. - as Stoic put it, hitting the bottle, serial killer, loose moral character. Stoic, I agree, I'm not running around spearding unsubstantiated rumours.... But don't you have a right to share what you know? he can later turn around and say "I know, but thanks for the heads-up".

Zeph, so you're saying if your girlfriend is seeing a guy you know fools around and has a couple of illegitimate kids, no need to tell her, she'll find out soon enough....right?

Stoic and Kaleido... firstly,kaleido: I said it was a question for the guys because I know all the girls have that "mind your own business, why spilt it for her" mentality. Stoic, I'll be sure not to expect a lifeline from you. Walaalkaa is may or may not be about to step on a land mine and you're taking a "wait and see" approach. How about "Hey bro FYI: this is what I know, proceed with extreme caution."

such girls are always way better than the novice once Stoic, Better at WHAT? its a simple question, do you tell him or not.... What kinda Mistakes? Some are severe others are relatively simple Afro, you like clarification don't you? are one of those people that have to always answer a question with a question? Man on the street: Excuse me young man, what time is it? Afromali: what do you mean? eastern, central, mountain or pacific?

lol, so you know have the cheek to question my insanity huh?! Maybe I should do away with you My dear, Your insanity have never been in question. You must have gotten too close to the Illuminati and the new world order - remember Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.

There's nothing wrong with warning people, is there? Speaking of warnings: Question for the guys: If your friend has met a girl and he likes her, but you know this girl and she has "made mistakes" in the past, Do you tell him? Question for the girls: If you have a friend who engages in shady tactics and she just met a really nice guy would you ask her to wise up?

Aren't you all just swimming around in a pool of doubt and confusion. none of you were there to say with 100% certainty that it happened or didn't happen. I personally believe Allah (SWT) can hand out this punishment regardless of if there is a precident or not. Regardless of if there is a Xadiith to support it. The truth or lies in this story is irrelevant to the faith you should have in Allah and His Kitaab.

Sue, you proven yourself time and again to be a few aces short of a full deck. You can say anything you want....Just don't send me the way of the queen mother

Originally posted by Kaleidoscopic: Bitter Bitter Bitter. Its sweet-smelling compared to the pungent odour that was emanating from this post all along. But hey, if its any consolation, ur pong doesn’t bother me anymore. Call it immunity. Call it what you want...I call it an addiction. you know you crave it evevry morning like a shot of espresso. Originally posted by Kaleidoscopic: I find how u think most intriguing UD. If a guy doesn’t delight at ur show of chauvinism, he gets an ‘F’? Good one. Like how you always think of urself as the authority to hand out grades and grace. ...LOL - and they said "brown-nosing doesn't pay" I was expecting a fire-back from the BMX...but I guess you're doing the peddling for him.

Ofleh, so men are bicycles and women are cars? Kaleido, Sweet-smelling scent? Sheesh !!! Too many lips on too many butts.... Ofleh, That self deprecating analysis of your manhood might be heavily influenced by a shortcoming. I must admit the "All guys are useless on their own, but I'm a little better than the average guy" argument is funny, especially in the context of your analogy....however it's still a transparent, lame attempt at knocking your brethren to make yourself look good. B for effort F for originality.

... Yeah, dagnabit...and I'll stand by it all Thats just a sample of the UD Greatest Hits Collection, Call with a credit card in the next 30 mins and we'll throw in Some of the new titles such as the instant classic: -"She couldn't organize a tea party with out a nervous break down"

Originally posted by Kaleidoscopic: ^ Now thats FUNNY!! (and untrue) You would love for it to be funny (and untrue). the truth of the matter is that it can be addictive and can lead to statements of denial (see quote above) Originally posted by Kaleidoscopic: Afro ... I dont appreciate you lusting after Sue . Yeah, afro, you've been told

Femme fatale a.k.a. Resident flamethrower: I personally HATE HATE HATE feminists. I want to take a knife, cut them up, then feed them to the dogs. Its amazing the things I think about commiting against feminists. Seeing the quotes above and this quote here, looks like everyones a target for FF....

ME: Bee, you're always a breath of fresh air, even though it's slightly "fem" scented. Zephyrine: Hey!..I take offence at that. I thought my scent was 'flower' by Kenzo...not frigging 'fem'. ME: "flower" by Kenzo...*sniff* *sniff* you better re-check that bottle

So what are you basing the "UD & the doormat" theory on? Seems like you get some unexplained 'high' from taking shots at me....must be my intoxicating personality

Sue, everyone like to see themselves as "different" and "unique"....I don't know you well enough to categorize you. These categories are not aimed at particular people, they're personas and characteristics that some women have. If I'm not mistaken you're the one who said that my ideal one is a doormat by implying that if I run from the above mentioned traits the only thing left is a doormat....no? Baashi, adeer, I did not miss her. the list is of women to avoid....Miss perfect get a whole thread to herself.

err...hmmm...well...I saw this girl once that when the sunlight hit her at a certain angle and you squint a little she looks just like a goat. how's that?

Anybody can become angry, that is easy; but to be angry with the right person, and to the right degree, and at the right time, and for the right purpose, and in the right way, that is not within everybody's power, that is not easy. Aristotle

no self quotes? where are your greatest hits?

Doormat? Come on Sue, now where did you get that idea from? cause if I understand this correctly if a woman, isn't greedy, manipulative, unbalanced, conniving, b!tchy, cold and irresponsible then she's automatically a doormat, a slave. Since your powers of deduction are running low on obejectivity, I'll tell you what kind of woman I like: A woman who understands her role as a wife and a mother, her children and husband come 1st, she's not along for a short ride for better or worse. I can do without the cold, sarcastic, narrow minded, newly freed women that behave like a pack of locusts, same way they can do with out me. Now let me ask you this: since you scrutinized all the warning i've given and concluded the only woman not on that list is a "Doormat", Which of the 12 (11 in the list + Doormat) are you?