Originally posted by Kool_Kat: Dee odayga waa odayga...Ma oday kalaa jira? KK why are you ignoring JBs question? Odayaasha aa kala ah. Mar walba laba oday aa ku hor taagan. So when you say "twice or thrice sheekada mawedikaraa" are you talking about oday A or Oday B.

ninkaan asagaa isisoo taagay. The man is making lists! "I fiiriya" oo afcarabi ah oo la suuq yimid. almiina lixda bilood oo maqnaay hado wax cusub la imaan lahay. The same old, tired, lame colonized thought process.

How to Deal with Childish Adults 1)Throwing Temper Tantrums Like two-year-olds, people who throw temper tantrums believe they are entitled to get their own way. They therefore feel free to abuse anyone who thwarts their desires. The Proper Response: The best response to a tantrum is no response at all. Stay quiet and calm until the tantrum thrower calms down enough to have a civilized conversation. If it goes on too long, politely excuse yourself and leave. Never show fear, anger, or any other emotional response, since that will be very rewarding to the tantrum thrower. When someone acts this childish, you must be the adult. 2)Craving Attention Some people are attention junkies who want all eyes and ears focused on them. This behavior is actually rather pathetic, since it usually reflects a deep-seated lack of self-worth and self-confidence. But although it may be pathetic, it can be very annoying. The Proper Response: The worst thing you can do is give an attention junkie more attention, since that just rewards their self-centered behavior. So when they begin to go on and on about their problems or accomplishments, you need to change the subject. Or politely excuse yourself. If you get hooked into these conversations, you may never escape. But don’t expect the person to become less self-absorbed. Attention junkies seldom change. 3)Crybabies Crybaby individuals may not actually cry. But they are always whining or complaining about something. Nothing is ever quite right and they are never completely happy about anything. If you say that it’s a nice day, they’ll reply that it’s probably going to rain tomorrow. Crybabies invented the half-empty glass. The Proper Response: You don’t want to reward crybaby behavior. So don’t join in with the complaining or start whining yourself. If you do, you’ll soon become the crybaby’s complaint buddy. Just change the subject and try to shift the focus from past problems to future goals. If the behavior persists, you may simply want to avoid these people. 4)Forming Cliques A little group will decide that they are the “insiders” and refuse to admit anyone else to their exalted circle. Their point is that "they’re special". They probably did the same thing when they were in school. The Proper Response: These people are silly and childish, so find a more mature and rewarding group to interact with. Be friendly to clique members when you have to and just ignore them the rest of the time.

Isn't the method of proposal an irrelevant issue? As a woman, wouldn't you know before the proposal if you were going to say yes or no. Wouldn't it be safe to say if your answer is dependent of the delivery of the question, you have bigger issues to worry about than the whole bended knee presentation?

Yup, greener on the other side! and I guess you stuck on the '70s' part and missed the 'during the civil war period' that the sentence was focusing on.

Generalization and short-sightedness. Its a shame you only see the bums in the Qaad houses and the labourers in the factories. The men are out doing a lot more than you can possibly comprehend. Telecommunication: Access to telecommunication before the civil strife was very expensive and not accessible to most Somalis. Telephone lines were limited to cities and to those lucky ones who could offer it. For example, in 1990 there were about 2 fixed telephone mainlines per 1,000 people. However, thanks to the entrepreneurial spirit of Somalis and to new technologies today there are about 9 private operators that provide competitive telecommunication services to almost every province and to even towns and village, which did not have access to telephone prior the war. Today, there are around 25 mainlines per 1,000 persons, and availability of telephone lines (tele-density) in Somalia is higher than in neighbouring countries, three time higher than in Ethiopia. Access to international telephone calls is probably the most affordable and cheapest in whole of Africa. For example, in 2005 one minute phone-call from Mogadishu or Hargeysa cost $0.50-0.80, as the rate of one minute international phone call from a small town or a village in Somalia was cheaper than of that in Addis Ababa! In 2003, there were 63 mobile phones per 1,000 people and there are internet facilities. Although in need of regulatory and structural framework, the sector provides much needed services, which improve the lives of thousands in terms of, among other things, job creation and income generation etc. Small scale industries: Just few years before the civil war, the 53 or so state-owned large-medium and small manufacturing enterprises, like many public institutions, were breaking down and bankrupt. Then the civil war destroyed the rest, almost all infrastructure were looted. However thanks to investment by the Diaspora, the remittance sector, and some intervention by the international community Somalis have managed to re-start some old small scale plants, as they have created new ones. These include fish canning and meat processing plants in the north, some 25 factories in Mogadishu, which produce pasta, mineral water, sweets, plastic bags and sheets, hides and skins, detergent and soap, aluminium, foam mattresses and pillows, fishing boats, packaging, and stone processing etc. The airline industry: Again thanks to their entrepreneurial spirit and lack of strict regulatory frameworks, there are about 14 private companies (e.g. Daallo) which run commercial flights from Somalia to abroad. These companies offer competitive flight tickets, for instance – Daallo air ticket from Djibouti to France costs 40% less than of what the Air France ticket costs. These carriers have been a life-line to Somalis’ booming trade, as they have been a helping hand in the delivery of crucial humanitarian assistance by the international community. So if yesterday Somalis were proud of the now bankrupt and defunct Somali Airline – the only national carrier that dominated the sky – today Somalis have successfully created 14 private companies that connect Somalis to the outside world. A big step towards a better future. Road Infrastructure: in late 1970s there were 19,380 kilometres of road infrastructure which include all categories from paved, gravel, to tarmac. Despite the fact that these roads have been badly deteriorating in some parts of the country and in need of maintenance, the percentage of roads that have been paved and maintained by Somalis during the civil war period is the same as of that of Kenya and Ethiopia, and much higher than in Tanzania.

Hey, I love my Somali women as is. I'm just smart enough to recognize how they calaacal and find ways to live with it. Us men have the odd question here or there. Laakin the women.... just go to the Women's section, and browse the topics, page after page of suaal qaab daran iyo calaacal hore oo presentation cusub lagu sameeyey. So lets just say Somali men aren't smart enough to change, but its all balanced out by Somali women who aren't smart enough to find alternatives.

Originally posted by Ms DD: I wonder if anything has changed Nope, over 6 yrs later and the Somali women are still ungrateful, shallow, narrow minded and still think the grass is greener on the other side.

Killed by who? is this an internal thing?

Sat, December 6, 2008 Killings shock Somalis By CLARA HO, SUN MEDIA The tight-knit Somali community in Edmonton is demanding answers after Tuesday's homicide victims, fatally shot in separate incidents, were identified as two of their own. Police have identified the man found dead in a field in Grand Trunk Park near 109 Street and 130 Avenue at around 9:30 a.m. as 23-year-old Abdul Kadir Mohamoud of Edmonton. Later that night, police were called to a parking lot at 148 Avenue and 89 Street at around 10:20 p.m. where they discovered the body of a 21-year-old man, identified as Ahmed Mohammed Abdirahman. Mahamad Accord, executive director of the Alberta Somali Community Centre, wants to know who is killing who and why. "It's a shock to us. We are trying to grasp what happened," Accord said. "But we aren't detectives, we don't know all the facts, so we want to talk to police." The two latest victims - Edmonton's 31st and 32nd of the year - bring the total number of Somalis killed this year to five, he said. On Aug. 24, Mohamed Ali Ibrahim was shot and killed outside the River Cree Resort. A month later, 22-year-old Nasir Mohamed Said was found dead behind Balwin school. And on Halloween morning, 21-year-old Abas Akubar's body was discovered near 140 Avenue and 92 Street. All five victims were from Ontario and didn't have any family in Edmonton, making it harder to solve the mystery of their deaths, Accord said. The first step is to have open dialogue between the community and police, as well as community members and the Somali youth, he said. They are starting with the Youth for Change meeting today at Killarney Community Hall at 3:30 p.m. to help young Somalis avoid a life of crime Source

Originally posted by Ms DD: Gaanjibo is the one who initiates it without him ever realising. You make all the moves whilst making him think that he is the one making all the moves. Besides, men always like what they cant have. Old rule. So mom always told me to play hard to get and he will come running into the shabaq! Thats what I'm talking about...Make me think it was all my idea and my plan and everything works out great.

I seem to be missing some facts on the whole matter (if indeed these facts exist). As far back as I can remember Somali families in North America and Europe have occasionally sent back some youth (almost always young men) to Somalia as some (usually) misguided attempt to reattach them with their roots (daqan celis?). What hard facts are available to indicate these twin city kids have become 'fighters' against the direction of western wisdom? I seem to recall young men engaged in some violent crimes who were quickly whisked away to Somalia to avoid prosecution. I'm sure authorities didn't just wake up one morning and say "Hmmm, there's 12 Somali youth missing from this hood" Where are all the accusations coming from? and I'm sure if they had any suspicions on the Imam and the mosques, there would be arrests made.

Originally posted by Cara: ^So tell us, is there any truth to C&H's predictions? Or are the Farahs so grateful and impressed that they have mad respect for a girl's daring? **Waiting, pen poised LOL @ mad respect for a girl's daring. In your dreams! Personally I think its a bit of a turn off when a girl makes the first move, but I'm just old skool like that. A woman making the first move lacks femininity. The mysterious grace and inviting calmness is gone. Although with all the role reversals going on these days I'm sure some of the new borderline metro guys might actually be flattered by the whole thing. You should talk to some of the older generation and learn how less is more when a woman is interested in a man. There's ways she can project her interest without blurting out "Hey Yo! you wanna take me to a movie?"

Yaabka, saaxibkaa meesha wax oo ku arkay. Qofta wax ee tustay aan umaleena. Sample aa lataabsiye markaas oo "I love you" kujawaabay. kasoco dheh. Adaa saaxibkiis aah, qof kale usoo raadi.

Originally posted by Afr0 GirL: Jaceelow xaal qaado LOL Like some girl said to me one time "Jaceelkaada waa jiis...masocdo"

"...Friend of yours..." huh? Difficulties like what? Try pepto Bismol or x-lax She changed when she realised you ...er.. I mean your friend was in luv with her and "your friend" does not want to love her any more. Yeah I got a solution for that.... Tell your "friend" to make a move on her sister...or her best friend - work just as well. tell me again, why he can't just take his difficulties and walk away?

Can you spot 'marriage material girl' just by looking at her? Just by looking at her? NO But you can ask one question, either to her or someone that knows her Is that girl married? If the answer is NO, Madaxa la gal. Either you're gonna make her what you want, or she's gonna make you what she wants. Either way, Game set match.

My first winter in Canada, I'm watching the weather forecast and they say "We're expecting a high of -12C with a windchill of -20C" So I sitting there wondering is it -12 or -20? Then I'm told "its -12 or -20 depending on where you're standing". wtf? If you're in the wind its 8 degrees colder.

The problem with thinking in English is I type some stuff in English. "Dhugo" oo yiri. is that any better?

KK, thanks I was talking to one of my "back country cousins", you know the one that walk in high steps because they're used walking in dacas in terrain with a lot of rocks. Anyway I gave up on af-somali cusub (or old school depending on how you wanna look at it)when he pointed at something and said "yaayah, dhoogo!" Left me with a "what the hell...?" look on my face.

I guess this is the SOL version of Sesame Street...Characters and all.

Originally posted by -MARX-: He eptomises the difference between Somalis in North America and Europe. We are so cultured while these inbreds have yet to reach the early stages of evolution. Originally posted by -MARX-: ...In fact, i support and applaude this guy for this creativity and orginality, something many of you lack, not least IBZ and Afropuff. You flip flop more than a fish out of water. Why don't you develop a spine and try to clarify what it is you think you stand for? .

...guys are slathering up their torsos with the hemorrhoid cream Preparation H to make themselves look "ripped" for the ladies. SOURCE