Yes the new generation of SOmalilanders do love each other, again stop trying to group people together. When Somalilanders do something great all of a sudden every somali wants in, if we (Somalilanders) are in trouble like in the barre era every Somali runs for cover. Peronsally, I wish Somalia the best, but please dont sit there and talk about union, that sh... hit hte fan pretty hard. From now on lets just try and be good neighbors, or should I say civil. There is no union needed for that, just give us peace, and stop bitc...... about us, and Ethiopia too, talk about paranoia. Deal wit da warlords, and leave us alone. Anyways I have to study for a bio exam, yall take it easy, and Xiis its cool, but remember we are good Muslims, we just need peace, and if they dont shut up, Allah will do it for them again. LanderLuv. -Citizen Sami

Lynx love the avatar bro hee hee. Anyways, I dont hate anyone, no one should be offened because I have not used any bad words in my posts, if you consider Faqs..... word a bad word then maybe you were a supporter of Siad, maybe you get hurt because it was an idea you supported if not why should it bother you. I personally didnt use any bad words or call you names, I ask a simple question, why is it that Somalis always talk Shhhhhhh..... about Somalilanders and yet they cant seem to leave us Somalilanders out of their convos, why you keep callin us back to the horrid union? I havent called anyone any bad names so walalo who ever offened you it wasnt me, so please pick the bone with whomever called you the bad words. Revenge????? What are you talking about? Who said anything about Revenge? SOmaliland had a great chance along time ago, and all the people know what I mean, but we didnt take it. Revenge could have been taking, but unlike Barre, and the warlords, we are Muslims. I wasnt trying to start a fight, I simply asked a question which no one has answered, please refer back to the original post to see what the question was. What nation? Stop trying to group people together. Somalilanders dont hate anyone, we dont want revenge on anyone, we dont wish ill fortune on anyone. We just wish we could say the same for other Somalis. So what Somalis have the same Religion, alot of Good that got us, Same language,yeah that solved all our problems, Same Culture, ohh yeah that really showed, is that all the arguement you people have? Man that line is noooooooooooo played out. Anyways, am out lmaooo good luck, and since no people from Somalia proper can answer my question, I guess Landers have their answer. Many Thanks your pal Sami P.S. I might be young, but I stay tuned to the news and I make it my business to ask the older peopel what happened in the war, so I know more stuff than you think. Hide, Lie, do whatever you want fact of the matter is if we dont get you, Allah will. :eek:

DanTay I guess thats why people in Somaliland have voted on independence, and the slogen over there is "NO MORE XAMAR" huh, or am I just dreaming that up? Somaliland doesnt need anyone but Allah, I just started this topic to get people in Somalia to just stop talking about us, soo dang much, find something to talk about in your respective areas, whats Muuse Yalxow up to? What about your boy Morgan? Or have you suddenly stoped supporting him? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Yall need a hooby other than Somaliland. Happy Hunting. Your Pal Citizen Sami

Our tribes wont take us to Heaven that is true but it sure will take you to hell and the Greater SOmalia Idea proved that walalo. Having the same religion, didnt stop Somali Muslims from Raping other Somali Muslims nor did it stop them from Releaving themselves on the Holy Quran. THe same language doesnt serve much use either, because no one stood up to Siad until it was too late. So what we are Somali, big deal did it stop us from Killing each other off? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO!!! Why not have different nations? If we cant get things straight in one, why not try the road less traveled, its certainly working for Somaliland, heres an idea, it might just work for you. Give it a try! But be warned, before you venture out into this area, you must put Somaliland out of your mind, and also the greater Somalia horror. Then and only then can you start working on bettering the lives of the people in your areas. -Many Thanks Your Pal citizen Sami

Silent sistah thanks for your post walalo, I would say what you wrote if people in Somalia proper, would stop calling my people Traitors, and the dreaded "Ido....." word, not to mention all the other words, till then I guess am just gonna have to continue using "Somaliland" ????? Many Thanks Your Pal Citizen Sami

Walalo my post was not edited, because I didnt use any bad words, I wonder what the bad words I used were? Somaliland? Is that it? Or is it the fact that no one can seem to stop talking about SOMALILAND!!!, OHHH NOOO CALLL THE ADMIN I DONE SAID IT AGAIN!!! Shocking isnt it!!! :eek: I wonder what bad words I used? AS to the admin I already answered your message, I dont know what words your talking about please type them out in full and send them to me because all you sent to me was a bunch of astrix in a row, and last time I checked my post was and still is unedited. Many Thanks Your Pal Citizen Sami

BUt i grew up here, and think its as long as you have parents, and grand parents that were born there, either one of your parents, mother or father, and one of your grand parents, before the union and after in Somaliland then you are considered a Somalilander. My father is from Yemen, but my mother is from SOmaliland, although her parents were both born and raised in Yemen I am still considered a Somalilander because of my mother birth in Somaliland. So it really doesnt take much, but just read the consititution just incase I have missed anything. -Citizen Sami P.S. Nin Yabaan if you dont like Somaliland or the idea, you can always move, or you can accept the will of the majority and stay in peace, or go to SOmalia or Puntland and well try and manage.

BUt i grew up here, and think its as long as you have parents, and grand parents that were born there, either one of your parents, mother or father, and one of your grand parents, before the union and after in Somaliland then you are considered a Somalilander. My father is from Yemen, but my mother is from SOmaliland, although her parents were both born and raised in Yemen I am still considered a Somalilander because of my mother birth in Somaliland. So it really doesnt take much, but just read the consititution just incase I have missed anything. -Citizen Sami P.S. Nin Yabaan if you dont like Somaliland or the idea, you can always move, or you can accept the will of the majority and stay in peace, or go to SOmalia or Puntland and well try and manage.

Nin Yabaan you are welcome to your opinion, but one mans opinion in a democracy does not over shadow the rest of the people. To the last anon, please read the Somaliland constituton. I myself am from Erigavo, but

Lmaoooooooooooo coolaid, no I never liked Coolaid, I just wanted to point out how Somalis pick on Somalilanders for no reason, not to mention all that happened before that, not to mention how the pro somalia troop cant seem to understand that we dont want anything to do wit yall, and yet everyone cant seem to stop talking about Somaliland? Whats going on there? Are they going to come back to the union? Are they going to come to the Nairobi meeting? Somaliland must come to the meeting in Nairobi! ANd soo on and soo forth! Am just wonder if people in SOmalia proper are confused they seem to really have deep seeded misgivings about Somalilanders and yet they cant seem to talk about anything other than what concerns or what is Somaliland. Just an observation. -Citizen Sami [ June 11, 2003, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Admin ]

Somaliland everywhere you look on every forum people are talking about Somaliland. No one really likes getting into the issues of Somalia, "Humpy Dumpty sat on a wall, humpy dumpty had a great fall, all the kings men and all the kings horses couldnt put poor humpty dumpty back together again" Does this sound familiar to you? Every body and their mother its seems has tried in vain to put Somalia proper back together to no avail. Somaliland on the other hand has solved its own problems single handedly, without any out side help, or intervention. Somaliland remains peaceful, and has had a government for 13 years now. Presidential elections, a referendum, and local elections. Somalia has had none of the sort, each warlord holds his station and hangs on for dear life. Constent fighting in Xamar, is soo common that its no longer news. Constently we hear from the Pro Somalia farce, that they want Somaliland back? Why? Constently people from Somalia proper make fun of Somalilanders, yet they still want them in the union? We get called everything under the sun, traitor, drug head, Idoor, etc... etc... etc... and they still calling our name for union? Why you ask, cause they cant tie a knot without our instruction and assistance. But like we Landers have told you over and over and over and over again. So please try and make peace amongst yourselves for the good of the poor in your areas that have suffered for years, and leave Somaliland out of your heads and mouths. This might help you with the envy issue, and cause you to start work on your own house. Inshallah. Till then, please keep refering back to the fact that Somalia only exists on paper, other than that it might as well be one of those lost cities we hear about in myths and no one can seem to find,, but is in many books! -Citizen Sami [ June 10, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: Admin ]

Hey I have a question is Xiis barried in Xiis or is the Cityjust named for her? By the way I loveeeeeeeeeee that nameeeeeeee Anyways, All my Lander dont waste your time with these folks, we have proved ourselves over and over again, recognition is on the way, and even if it takes time what idiot in their right mind would join with them, even Puntland is having second thoughts. Waar Dhegdheer dhimatoo dhulkii nabadeey, enough said. Am out -Citizen Sami

Mr Somali how are my words unhealthy? Is it unhealthy that I point out that the same ones crying for brotherhood were the same ones that crushed it? Is it unhealthy to point out that the pro somalia group should focus on better the lives of their people, instead of constently seeking Somalilands help and inclusion in the never ending war in Somalia? Is it unhealthy to point out that the pro somalia camp should focus their energy where it is needed which is in their own homes? And not to Somaliland? I used no foil language, I stated the truth take it or leave it. The truth hurts I know, DEAL WITH IT! -Citzen Sami

ITs not about dividing, we were never one nation to begin with, it was all an idealistic idea and went head long into hell and is being seriously sauteed by the devil himself. I dont understand why people in the pro unity camp always cry, we are brothers, well where the hell where you when that shyt counted? Cry on the net all you want, Somaliland made its peace without any foreingers, disarmed the SNM, which we will always be gratefull too (luv you guys, and our childrens children etc... will never forget). We had a refurendum, we have had presidential elections, and the praliament awaits, the World Bank, and some other interesting characters recently visited Somaliland, I hope you listen to the BBC, anyways, we have gone and gone for good. Stop yelling like an unwanted woman and get on with your life. P.S. our police are being trained and we have women on the force, our nation is building slowly but surely, goes to show envy, and constent internet yelling about Somaliland and whether or not it should leave the union hasnt done anything for Somalia except plung it deeper and deeper into the mess they created for themselves. How many presidents are in Muqdisho now? How many warlords are trying to rule you? They are going to send in African Soldiers to do the job the Americans couldnt finish, and all you have to say is Somaliland, Somaliland, Somaliland. *Shacking head* Get a life! -Citizen Sami

We the so called "idealistic" Somalilanders are not surprised with Udub, we will handle them by our laws and not with violence and many of those who are "Pro Somalia" or "Anti Somaliland" which ever way you want to say it would have you believe. I have read from my friends and yes it was happening, and why do you think that all of a sudden Riyale is trying to work something our with Silanyo, because the public is angry with him, democracy is taking place slowly but surely. Its easy for people who dont have democracy (Pro SOmalia folks) to talk ill of those that are actually trying to make it happen. One word of advice, when you get up off the couch, and try it yourself, then talk, till then, shhhhhhhhhh. I believe this is a trying time for SOmaliland, but like I said, when have we ever refused a challenge soo great, and when have we lost? Our history serves as a blue print to our determination, and our public in Somaliland, and those abroad, will do everything in their power to make things better for those back home especially but for ourselves too. I wish that other SOmalis would stop wishing doom and gloom on us, and try instead to do what we have done, and fix the home they are squating in. -Citizen Sami