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OMG....I officially sank to repose, it seems that Ngonge's mixtures of genius looks is engendered in his reader's minds. :cool: PS Alaa Ciil bathanaa
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Those words drew a big groan from me. For god sake, Ngonge is an occupied guy. I do not doubt that he has someone to ride the tri-cycle with.As I write this words rage spark my fingers. This may chill your body with thrill; will you Ahura be my Valentine? My future hopes and prospects are bound on this offer! :mad: :mad:
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^^^This is absolutely insane! It seems that descency is beyond the grasps of some people.Perhaps the individual wants to stir the pudding in order to gain some heleluyah "oh how great it is in the loving hell of our religion to do that"
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It looks like my lovely country was not left behind.They demonstrated without any violence.Remember this was a country that was attacked by the terorist back in the late nineties. Muslims in protest over cartoons on prophet Story by NATION Correspondent Publication Date: 2/11/2006 Hundreds of Muslims yesterday held a peaceful demonstration in Nairobi to protest at cartoons demonising Prophet Mohammed published by Western newspapers. The cartoons, initially published in a Danish newspaper, were later reprinted in others in Germany, Norway and France, leading to worldwide condemnation by Muslims. Yesterday's demonstration in Nairobi began at 1.40pm after prayers led by Imam Mohammed Swalihu at the Jamia Mosque. The protesters were joined by other Muslims who had attended a prayer meeting at Sir Ali Muslim's Club organised by the Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims (Supkem). During the prayers, the Supkem chairman, Prof El- Busaidy described the cartoons – some of which depicted the prophet as a terrorist – as "an insult to the prophet, the Muslim community and the religion of Islam." A billion Muslims The newspapers he said, had "greatly offended and hurt the feelings of the more than a billion Muslim faithful globally." At the Jamia mosque, the imam, in his sermon, accused Western governments of exhibiting fear following the growing popularity of Islam and the large number of faithful it was attracting in their countries and other parts of the world. The demonstrators, who gathered outside the mosque, shouted Takbir! Takbir! as they hoisted placards condemning Denmark. One of the placards read: "Muhammed is the greatest man ever. Islam is the only true salvation. Stop the double standards and discrimination". Another read: "Leave Islam and Muslims Alone." Police kept a watchful eye as the demonstrators began their protest and went through Wabera street, City Hall Way and Parliament Road before reaching Harambee Avenue, where they presented a protest note to a senior official in the Foreign Affairs ministry. In their protest note read by Nairobi Muslim Youth Amir, Mr Issa Ahmed, the Muslims said they were angered by the cartoons and urged Kenyans to join their other faithful in boycotting goods from Denmark. The protesters then demonstrated through Taifa Road, Simba Street and Kimathi Street – where they held another demonstration outside Nation Centre – before ending their protest outside Jamia Mosque. Mr Ahmed had a difficult time convincing some youths not to march to the Danish embassy in Nairobi, saying that the move was not in their programme. Sources
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The West understands to separate the “significant†from the “insignificantâ€. What the West views as a “significant†we don’t personally view it the same. A woman being mugged is more offensive to West than an insult on their religion because insult does not impact their lives but being mugged does it. As a Muslims whatever that is being directed against our religion or our prophet does impact us more than a woman being mugged. This is significant to us. The West-most of them- do not act collectively as we do. They may argue that this might not lessened their love for their religion. I personally think that there is a crush of significance here that needs a dialogue and not a violent repression. I am not an expert on how to achieve this, but I have itching feeling that it could be attained .
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If someone walked up to me right now and stamped the word black on my forehead, I wouldn't be surprised, but if some red headed dude walks up to me and calls me the N word-things my go down on the wrong lane in the freeway! The N word has enormous implications, I think on my status as a free black man. It would be a shame to all the black freedom fighters to accept that word from the white people. I like to think that I am a guy who doesn’t let words get to him, but this is the only word that gets under my skin. Heck you can even call me “skinny †and I wouldn’t even flinch! One day two of my school friends invited me to join them for a lunch. I bounded along with them before the next period. Suddenly this blonde girl asked me if where I am from people spoke with the cliché sound (those of you who must have watched "god must be crazy" understand this). I nearly sank to the ground with laughter as she uttered those words! I was not offended by her words because she expressed the sensation of her mis-informed heart. I was partly urged by compassion to inform her that Africa is not Discovery channel.
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^^^Its only gonna get better,keep a stiff upper lip!
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Muneer is a close freind of mine.He is responding to an editorial piece that has appeared in my school newspaper.He is not adding anything new to the current debate of freedom of speech/limitation,but he is tryinng to impert some wisdom about the importance of prophet Muhammad(SAW) on the down south Georgia boys! In the minds of most westerners for whom the religion of Islam picture has been shaped by western media's vague notion, i think Muneer was on the right dot on responding to the newspaper editorial staff and the school at large. Opinions Prophet cartoons insult all Muslims Published , February 09, 2006, 06:00:01 AM EDT Last September, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten printed a series of cartoons that claimed to be a depiction of the Prophet Muhammad. More recently, numerous newspaper editors throughout Europe have republished the same cartoons. These cartoons mocked the Prophet and used symbols relating the Prophet to terrorism. Since then, I haven’t stoned anyone, I haven’t attacked policemen, I haven’t set fire to media outlets, nor have I searched for the Danish embassy. But make no mistake — as a Muslim, I was offended beyond words. The media circus surrounding the reaction from the Muslim world has offered us a battle between freedom of speech and Islamic beliefs. And the American public has, to an extent, accepted this picture. However, I believe we haven’t been exposed to enough in order to understand that this debate is deeper when considering the context. The first issue with respect to religion is that Islam prohibits these images to protect the worship of the Oneness of God from idolatry, but another aspect that may shed light on this situation is the love that Muslims hold for their faith and Prophet. Through the Quran and teachings of Muhammad, Muslims are asked to love the Prophet more than their families and more than themselves. Thus it would have been less offensive to personally insult every Muslim alive today than to insult the religion’s Prophet. So is it wrong for certain issues held sacred by many to be respected by others? It is important to remember that these published cartoons were not simple pictures, but they actually ridiculed the Prophet and Islam as a religion. The cartoons make the point that the Prophet was a terrorist, and thus so would all of those who follow his example. In this case, freedom of speech was used in a racist manner poking fun at a religion and inspiring doubt on the intentions of Muslims as good citizens by their fellow countrymen. Muslims are not (at least should not be) intending to impose their beliefs to restrict freedom of speech, nor are they attempting to convince non-Muslims into believing what we believe. The Quran covers this point numerous times with verses that encourage us, Muslims, to avoid abusing those who don’t follow Islam (ch6. v.108) and also advising Muslims that it is okay for the people of other faiths to keep their religions (ch.109). I think the underlying theme we understand from this is respect for one another. With that said, I believe this conflict has resulted from the simple abuse of freedom of speech; using it as an outlet to insult, incite hatred and ridicule on the basis of racism. Considering the Danish prime minister’s refusal to meet an Arab delegation protesting the newspaper’s printing back in September, and the fact that numerous European newspapers republished the offensive material later, I beg the question “why was this comic strip so popular in Europe?†We should consider that Denmark’s government is currently strongly supported by an anti-immigration party, which stands strongly behind prohibiting Muslim immigrants from entering and integrating into Denmark. We also know there is a huge gap in social status between Muslim immigrants and natives throughout Western Europe, a region whose history with diversity has been more tumultuous than our own country’s. And what about the hypocrisy behind the usage of this freedom? In 2003 the same Dutch newspaper refused to print cartoons depicting Jesus (peace be upon Him) because the editor, Jens Kaiser, declared, “I don’t think Jyllands-Posten’s readers will enjoy the drawings.†Freedom of speech is great, is needed in society and is a sign of liberty, but we would be wrong to assume that freedom of speech in the West is, or should be, absolute. There are limitations that consider libel, hate and other factors. I believe freedom of speech must be defended, and it must withstand the objections of an insulted audience, but the people who have access to the public must show good judgment and responsibility with respect to this freedom. What the Dutch newspaper did, and the European newspapers that copied it, was purely a disrespectful and insensitive attack on the Muslim world. Their motives, I assure you, go beyond exercising their freedom of speech. — Muneer Awad is a senior from Marietta majoring in geography. Source
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^^^Waxaan layaabay qabyalada iyo naxliga iyo fitmo aburka mesha taloo.Iyagon warka aad udhuxiin bey afka tagayaan :mad:
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This past weekend I went to my little Somaliland coffee shop politicking center. I was appalled to learn how far people can eschew the facts of news ! The two sub-clan members were all trying to defend their sub-clan side. The story as I heard is about a rich dude who bought a land under the old mayor authority. The people who lived in the neighborhood did not wanted to evacuate the land. A cursory examination of any of the Somalis problem could lead you to believe everything is cool until you cross the line of my tribe and that the fact doesn’t matter as long as it is against my clan.Events like this reinforces my hopeless perspective of Somali Politiks.
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Do you happen to notice any resemblance in here? Sometimes i think life should grab you by the horn and force you to parade infront of the mighty mirror and check yourself if you could resemble your favorite pet PS I would not pass over a date with her though...in her own words "thats hot" PSS I know that is not the pet she carries around
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NFL play-offs coming up-But first we kicked major aarse ....
STOIC replied to BonaFied_CriTic's topic in General
I personally think Seahawks would have won had it not been the penalties that costed them the championship.Lets be real, for a while they did looked the good team until the penalties started trickling down like the faucet in my kitchen . -
I am honorary Chinese,but wait a minute, does that mean i need to learn how to make a birds nest soup ?Can i get that pig blood on a stick please?Anyway welcome to the best of the best Somali websites and don't let my words be a vexation to your spirit .
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Khayr, I understand your argument about Islam being inflexible (I hope Ngonge does it too), but you failed to convince us how you want to live among a society that doesn't understand your religion without making an effort to fight through their established laws. I don't think if any one is arguing for a change within Islam (at least not in this thread). Today in the western world the limit of freedom of speech is one of the obstacles that we are finding to be alien to our Islamic principles. Ngonge, clearly made it sure that his argument seeped inside our mind, I totally agreed with his argument (I think you will do the same if you print his long paragraphs and perhaps read it by dissecting his argument).
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Ngonge, At the heart of this debate, you are right that we need to separate the mixing of religion and Western political stands. Islam has been clear about the freedom of speech when the Quraan centrally laid out human social interrelation move from the most particular and intimate relationship between a wife and a husband to that of the people of the world. On fundamental principles, the opinion of one way respect or one religion having the superiority over another is absurd to the intellect of the western society. We are not discussing the superiority of a religion here; I will leave that as it is. Countries judge and evaluate legal rights in terms of people moral right. We as a Muslims living in the west can advocate for a law that protects our right, but we need to respect the freedom of others too. If we value others right, then any right we ask for will be relatively simple. It is clear that our view of our host nation’s freedom of expression is extremely important to us since our social obligations stem from the law they set. They are justified to upholding and enforcing at any cost any law that they set for their countries. One may ask, “How much of a freedom of speech can one have or say?†The answer is found in your post when you alluded that a right is a duty imposed on individual by the law of the land.
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Free speech is a gateway to ensure neither the government nor any religion is immune from criticism, even when such exercise conveys factual errors. This free speech and freedom of assembly is the same freedom that helps us convene and worship at our religion places. As always, I personally think there should be a limit if an insult would shade in to a hatred that may multiply to harm people. If an individual stands up in front of a crowd and says that blacks are lazy people or the founder of scientology is a veracious wimp who is after the money, he can go ahead and blast off as much as he can rest assured as long as his speech would not incite a pervasive hostility and intimidation on the scientologist or black people. This latest spat by the Danish newspaper have angered me personally, but it is the same license that give me the right to harass homosexuals that gives them the right to write whatever they want. There must an equal opportunity offender somewhere,isn't it?
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Viking, Leptin is an adipocyte hormone that we all humans have.Leptin signals hypothalamus how much fat is stored, regulating hunger and food intake.When people are starved the adipose level goes down this triggers the going down of Leptin and hence this leads to diminishing of the immune system too.Obesity involves increase in both size and numbers of adipocytes.As stored fat increases, secretion of Leptin increases.Leptin usually acts on arcute nucleus of the hypothalamus to suppress neuropeptide Y which increases the feeling of hunger.There are neurotransmitters too that promote overeating, example is endomorphin.If you want to know whether you are obessed, divide your weight(in Kg) by your height squared(in meters).If your calculation is above thirty then you are obessed. PS there goes my Physiology class
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Kooley, i think i flunked my exam this morning,do you mind sending my McDonald Bill through the Xawalla? I don't eat the Dollar Menu stuff, so your bill must not be less than ten dollars, please.I have to run now,i have a micro test tomorrow (IA)!
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Kweli kuishi kwingi ni kuona mengi.Maisha yangu sijawahi kuithani nitaweza kushuhudia watu ambao nyoyo zao ni nyeusi na uchafu!Ewe Muumba wetu, Jalia umati wako wanao shida za dunia.Mzungu mweupe leo atuonyesha kwamba tuko kiwango mmoja na wanyama wasio na akili.Ewe Mola muumba wasaidiye Umati wako wanao shida popote duniani!
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Let me gulped hard and defy Logic here to say that this Baashi welcome reminds me back in the days when the convoy of khat arrived and people yelled "Wuusodhacay!!!!".Saaxiib, welcome back with your humility and tranquility and please try to insinuate us on the "Young, Fabuluos and Broke" issue of 2006 !!!
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Blessed , magaca ha haleyn, it is Sand Divers
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Nafta, am on the learning curve, even though my writing is young at it’s heart, and as such lacks the strong theoretical grammar foundation. This is a writing that will one day break the solitary behavior of an individual to a complete highly coordinated society (the day I will beat Bisharo in Somali writing).It seems that it is one of the ways , I will be part of the level of intraspecies interactions that is happening here. PS ***Waves back *** PSS I am even making progress now that am listening to more Somali songs.Can any one help me with any Somali music websites(other than Somali UK.com). Please.
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^^^Athigu maxat tatga karabta, shaleito anigaba kamit baan aha taatka kajawabaye sualatha. PS Kooley, with your questions, you were about to make me not study for my big exam on wednesday!I had to ignore your questions. PSS People i stalk on SOL, Ahura,Curling, Ngonge, Xiin and the list goes on..........
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Nafte,You may render me the most miserable/confused of men, but i refuse to be a thermometer Sayid, Life and death appears to me an ideal bound. No one is immune from the fear of failure in life whether it is a materialistic or religious lifestyle. As my Sunday school teacher taught me, we will all taste the damps of the graves or the wrath of our creators. We can not trance the reality of life, once in a while a strange sensations seizes us a captives while we all know that whatever god decrees will be! Such are the occasions if we have an ounce of Iman, the sensation will pass like a passing cloud. Whenever I looked upon my life, many admirable and not so admirable qualities become a pilot of my life. I found myself to be among many people who when they go to bed at night the reality of life welters on their bedside.
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When I go to sleep at night, I beheld the direction of my life. With feeling of anxiety and hopelessness, I try to picture my life in an empty glass. I had worked hard in every thing that I try to accomplish in my life, but the fear of failure creeps on me. I feel the palpation of my arteries and my heart beating fast whenever I think about the direction of my life.. I glance on the ceiling wall wondering where I will be five years down the road. A selfish pursuit of life is cramping me every night in my bed. Sometimes my spirits are high while other days the fear of failure creeps on me. I know this sounds a strange tale to others, but it is the reality of my life.