Nice links Zak. These images are from the link.

I am happy for them. Thats a step forward in the right directions. Africa needs more of these kind of projects.

I am happy for them. Thats a step forward in the right directions. Africa needs more of these kind of projects.

Originally posted by X: DAD, About "the terrible defeat the Chinese have suffered on the hands of the Vietnamese", never heard about it. Care leave a link or two substantiating your claim? What I know is the Chinese helped the Vietnamese defeat America. Hi. X Here is a link, and a quote from the linked article. FAS "China failed to force a Vietnamese withdrawal from [Cambodia], failed to end border clashes, failed to cast doubt on the strength of the Soviet power, failed to dispel the image of China as a paper tiger, and failed to draw the United States into an anti-Soviet coalition." If China couldn’t have defeated Vietnam how do you think it can achieve a total victory over Taiwan, knowing Taiwan has many times more stuff then Vietnam had when it fought the Chinese. Originally posted by SmithNwestern: DAD, What about Korea, it was the Chinese who defeated the Americans in Noth Korea and the war only stoped due to the American threat of Nuclear action that time china was not a Nuclear power. Hi SmithNWest Defeat? The Chinese/N. Koreans have lost a combined 500k troops, while the Americans suffered 50k casualties during the war. And they have achieved their primary goal of taking back S. Korea. So it wasn’t a total DEFEAT for the Americans. The only total defeat the Americans suffered was during Vietnam, and maybe into some extent in Somalia and Lebanon. I would want to see someone else emerge as a global super power, but definitely not the godless Chinese.

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Originally posted by Yusufaddie: Hey Dad have you ever thought why Taiwan doesn't completely come out and declare themselves independent, does the taiwanese Gov. know china's military is not capable, or perhaps they know something you don't. Hi Yussuf. If the Taiwanese have managed to live 50yrs+ without any Chinese rule, I call that independence. Its been almost 50yrs, and they still havent' joined the mainland. If the Chinese had anything threating about them, they would have done something about the Taiwanese. Originally posted by X: DAD, You seem to have fed yourself too much Hollywood cheap propaganda. Nothing is what it seems. If you explore history, read declassified facts and events of the past 50 years, you'll realize nothing is what it seemed to be for the average person. Some decades down the road, the truth will emerge and will sure surprise you. Most of what you read and know about the West isn't true, just as everthing that shines isn't gold. Hi. X. You have been reading up on declassified stuff huh ? How did you get your hands on these things? Does it say anywhere, the terrible defeat the Chinese have suffered on the hands of the Vietnamese? Yes, the Chinese have been defeated by the Vietnamese (can't remember the date) during a border clash.

Hey if China is so powerful, why havent' they not invaded Taiwan yet? The least they could do is, invade that little small island and bring it back into the Union. The reason they haven't done that yet is because, the Chinese military dont have the military capability to invade or even defeat Taiwan in combat. Just shows you how much far behind the Chinese are lagging in terms of technology. What arsenal they have now is probably based on 60yr old technology, and is no match for Taiwanese, or American equipment.

Originally posted by X: Paltalk, In the event of war between China and America, there will be no survivor; it will be mutual self-destruction for both. America might have more conventional and unconventional weaponry than China, but China has enough unconventional weaponry which ensures that itself and America (and maybe the world) dig their own graves. In fact, China has more chances to survive from an unconventional war; it has more than 3 times of America's population. Hi X. What you said would've sadly been true, IF it was Russia not China. China isn't really that powerful, and probably will loose any nuclear war with the US. The reason for that is, first it doesnt' have that many Nukes it can target with the US (as Paltalk pointed out), and whateva nuclear it has is based on 50yr old technology that it will be shot down before it reaches its target. And if the US builds that Missile Defense thingy, it could mean not even Russia's Missiles would work.

Originally posted by Zakariye: Dad , adigu waa sax santahey hadii uu qofka caafimaad qabo ayuun buu ciyaari karaa, the point i post this is to find out ideas about men, in general. Le'ts exchange ideas, ideas, men ideas. c/salaam Hi Zak. Sxb what is that we can only talk about it in MEN Forum that we can't talk about it in the Generals, or in the Politics?

I havent' posted any real good tech-related posts lately. Here is a good one I found on the net. __________________________________________________ Robotics to Play Major Role in Future Warfighting (Source: US Joint Forces Command undated web-posted Aug. 1, 2003) A study by USJFCOM's Project Alpha is currently testing the viability of what used to be a fanciful notion but is now bordering on reality -- robotic warfare. By as early as 2005, autonomous robots on the battlefield might not be just a notion, but a norm. Since Robby the Robot first appeared on screen in 1956’s Forbidden Planet, science fiction in print, film and on television has pushed the limits of our imagination regarding machines of the future and their abilities to perform human tasks. From Star Wars to The Terminator, Junkyard Wars and Robot Warriors, our glimpse at the potential for tomorrow has amazed and sometimes stunned us. Well, get ready. The future may be closer than you think. Project Alpha, a U.S. Joint Forces Command rapid idea analysis group, is in the midst of a study focusing on the concept of developing and employing robots that would be capable of replacing humans to perform many, if not most combat functions on the battlefield. The study, appropriately titled, “Unmanned Effects: Taking the Human out of the Loop,” suggests that by as early as 2025, the presence of autonomous robots, networked and integrated, on the battlefield might not be the exception, but, in fact, the norm. In support of the study, USJFCOM sponsored a workshop at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore July 29 through August 1. The workshop, featuring key speakers who are experts in the field of robotics and artificial intelligence, was designed to develop a skeletal operational concept for the employment of autonomous machines and to raise awareness throughout DoD about current robotic technology and it’s future potential on the battlefield. The goal of the study, according to Gordon Johnson, the Unmanned Effects Team leader for Project Alpha, was to articulate a vision for the use of robotic forces and promote the formation of a Department of Defense-level office that will coordinate and integrate efforts across the armed services, ultimately resulting in joint-service development of unmanned effects (UFX), rather than the course of service-centric research that currently exists. “What we’ve found in the area of robotics, is that the Navy has programs, the Air Force has programs, the Army has programs,” Johnson said. “But there’s no one at the DoD level who has a clear vision of where we’re going to go with these things. How do we want them to interoperate? How do we want them to communicate with each other? How do we want them to interact with humans?” “Across the Department of Defense, people don’t really have the big picture. They don’t understand how close we really are to being able to implement these technologies in some sort of cohesive way into a cohesive force to achieve the desired effects.” The vision that Johnson wants the study to articulate outlines the many useful capabilities that will be available in robots before 2025. Characteristics of a tactical autonomous combatant (TAC) would include the ability to work in ground, air, space, or undersea environments, and in harsh conditions such as extreme heat or cold. In addition, TACs, unlike humans, would be able to operate in chemically, biologically, or radiologically contaminated environments. “We call them tactical autonomous combatants because they’ll operate largely autonomously with some limited human supervision,” explained Johnson. “We’re talking about, where we can and where we have the capability of replacing humans. We’re not talking about the operational level or strategic level, but at the tactical level, still using humans where we need to. Using adjustable autonomy or supervised autonomy, humans will still have to interact with the machines and help guide them.” The imperatives for the research are broad but basic. First and foremost, national security is an overriding factor. In many cases, according to Johnson, robots will be more capable than humans. They will be more lethal, more mobile, and more survivable. They will have faster reaction times and have more and superior sensing capabilities. They don’t have fear, they don’t get hungry, sleepy, or tired, and they take humans out of danger. And, from an economic perspective, they are cheaper than humans. “The robots will take on a wide variety of forms, probably none of which will look like humans,” explained Dr. Russ Richards, Project Alpha’s director. “Thus, don’t envision androids like those seen in movies. The robots will take on forms that will optimize their use for the roles and missions they will perform. Some will look like vehicles. Some will look like airplanes. Some will look like insects or animals or other objects in an attempt to camouflage or to deceive the adversary. Some will have no physical form – software intelligent agents or cyberbots.” Richards added that technology could currently deliver many of the capabilities that are envisioned as being necessary for robots. Robotic sensing abilities already exceed that of humans. Billions of dollars are being spent to improve and develop mobility, dexterity, power supplies, miniaturization, weaponry and artificial intelligence. Power supplies and artificial intelligence will be among the biggest challenges ahead, but there are others. “The greatest hurdle is likely to be overcoming military culture,” Richards said. “Just getting present-day decision makers to allow robots to perform some functions that are currently being performed by humans will be difficult. What is interesting is that we are already doing this. For example, Patriot missile batteries, close-in-weapons systems, cruise missiles, and other “smart” weapons are already pretty autonomous.” “It will be difficult to overcome the resistance to replacing human pilots, soldiers, sailors, and Marines with robots. Or, to allow machines to make decisions. The case will have to be made based on the imperatives.” And the clock may be ticking. Perhaps an even larger imperative, according to Richards, is that the United States is not the only nation that recognizes the future of integrated battlefield robotics. “We believe that other countries or groups will pursue robotics,” Richards said. “We can be at the vanguard, or we can lag behind and some day have to oppose a lethal robotic force. Better to be in the lead.”

I havent' posted any real good tech-related posts lately. Here is a good one I found on the net. __________________________________________________ Robotics to Play Major Role in Future Warfighting (Source: US Joint Forces Command undated web-posted Aug. 1, 2003) A study by USJFCOM's Project Alpha is currently testing the viability of what used to be a fanciful notion but is now bordering on reality -- robotic warfare. By as early as 2005, autonomous robots on the battlefield might not be just a notion, but a norm. Since Robby the Robot first appeared on screen in 1956’s Forbidden Planet, science fiction in print, film and on television has pushed the limits of our imagination regarding machines of the future and their abilities to perform human tasks. From Star Wars to The Terminator, Junkyard Wars and Robot Warriors, our glimpse at the potential for tomorrow has amazed and sometimes stunned us. Well, get ready. The future may be closer than you think. Project Alpha, a U.S. Joint Forces Command rapid idea analysis group, is in the midst of a study focusing on the concept of developing and employing robots that would be capable of replacing humans to perform many, if not most combat functions on the battlefield. The study, appropriately titled, “Unmanned Effects: Taking the Human out of the Loop,” suggests that by as early as 2025, the presence of autonomous robots, networked and integrated, on the battlefield might not be the exception, but, in fact, the norm. In support of the study, USJFCOM sponsored a workshop at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore July 29 through August 1. The workshop, featuring key speakers who are experts in the field of robotics and artificial intelligence, was designed to develop a skeletal operational concept for the employment of autonomous machines and to raise awareness throughout DoD about current robotic technology and it’s future potential on the battlefield. The goal of the study, according to Gordon Johnson, the Unmanned Effects Team leader for Project Alpha, was to articulate a vision for the use of robotic forces and promote the formation of a Department of Defense-level office that will coordinate and integrate efforts across the armed services, ultimately resulting in joint-service development of unmanned effects (UFX), rather than the course of service-centric research that currently exists. “What we’ve found in the area of robotics, is that the Navy has programs, the Air Force has programs, the Army has programs,” Johnson said. “But there’s no one at the DoD level who has a clear vision of where we’re going to go with these things. How do we want them to interoperate? How do we want them to communicate with each other? How do we want them to interact with humans?” “Across the Department of Defense, people don’t really have the big picture. They don’t understand how close we really are to being able to implement these technologies in some sort of cohesive way into a cohesive force to achieve the desired effects.” The vision that Johnson wants the study to articulate outlines the many useful capabilities that will be available in robots before 2025. Characteristics of a tactical autonomous combatant (TAC) would include the ability to work in ground, air, space, or undersea environments, and in harsh conditions such as extreme heat or cold. In addition, TACs, unlike humans, would be able to operate in chemically, biologically, or radiologically contaminated environments. “We call them tactical autonomous combatants because they’ll operate largely autonomously with some limited human supervision,” explained Johnson. “We’re talking about, where we can and where we have the capability of replacing humans. We’re not talking about the operational level or strategic level, but at the tactical level, still using humans where we need to. Using adjustable autonomy or supervised autonomy, humans will still have to interact with the machines and help guide them.” The imperatives for the research are broad but basic. First and foremost, national security is an overriding factor. In many cases, according to Johnson, robots will be more capable than humans. They will be more lethal, more mobile, and more survivable. They will have faster reaction times and have more and superior sensing capabilities. They don’t have fear, they don’t get hungry, sleepy, or tired, and they take humans out of danger. And, from an economic perspective, they are cheaper than humans. “The robots will take on a wide variety of forms, probably none of which will look like humans,” explained Dr. Russ Richards, Project Alpha’s director. “Thus, don’t envision androids like those seen in movies. The robots will take on forms that will optimize their use for the roles and missions they will perform. Some will look like vehicles. Some will look like airplanes. Some will look like insects or animals or other objects in an attempt to camouflage or to deceive the adversary. Some will have no physical form – software intelligent agents or cyberbots.” Richards added that technology could currently deliver many of the capabilities that are envisioned as being necessary for robots. Robotic sensing abilities already exceed that of humans. Billions of dollars are being spent to improve and develop mobility, dexterity, power supplies, miniaturization, weaponry and artificial intelligence. Power supplies and artificial intelligence will be among the biggest challenges ahead, but there are others. “The greatest hurdle is likely to be overcoming military culture,” Richards said. “Just getting present-day decision makers to allow robots to perform some functions that are currently being performed by humans will be difficult. What is interesting is that we are already doing this. For example, Patriot missile batteries, close-in-weapons systems, cruise missiles, and other “smart” weapons are already pretty autonomous.” “It will be difficult to overcome the resistance to replacing human pilots, soldiers, sailors, and Marines with robots. Or, to allow machines to make decisions. The case will have to be made based on the imperatives.” And the clock may be ticking. Perhaps an even larger imperative, according to Richards, is that the United States is not the only nation that recognizes the future of integrated battlefield robotics. “We believe that other countries or groups will pursue robotics,” Richards said. “We can be at the vanguard, or we can lag behind and some day have to oppose a lethal robotic force. Better to be in the lead.”

Where is the chat room that has been promised to us almost one yr ago?

I think the Sports, and the Politics forums are enuff for now.

They gonna have a huge fireworks in Fairfax Gov't Center. I think that beats going down to DC to see the same thing. And its very close to where i live.

As a rule, the first one should be me.

Habeenwanaagsan, marka hore. I wanted to know who you'd all think, will win this election. I think we have 5 months till the next election.

It will be even worse if he returns to office for a second term. If that happens, ani kanada aan ushubaa.

Here are some more math jokes. Kinda lame, but very funny. *In a speech to a gathering of mathematics professors from throughout the United States, George W. Bush warned the academics not to misuse their position to force their often extremist political views on young Americans. "It is my understanding", the president said, "that you are frequently teaching algebra classes in which your students learn how to solve equations with the help of radicals. I can't say that I approve of that..." __________________________________________________ At a press conference held at the White House, president George W. Bush accused mathematicians and computer scientists in the U.S. of misusing classroom authority to promote a Democratic agenda. "Every math or CS department offers an introduction to AlGore-ithms", the president complained. "But not a single one teaches GeorgeBush-ithms..." __________________________________________________ "What happened to your girlfriend, that really cute math student?" "She no longer is my girlfriend. I caught her cheating on me." "I don't believe that she cheated on you!" "Well, a couple of nights ago I called her on the phone, and she told me that she was in bed wrestling with three unknowns" Hahahahah....

It now seems we can't even trust our math teachers also. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At Reagan National Airport today, an individual, later discovered to be a public school teacher, was arrested trying to board a flight while in possession of a compass, a protractor, and a graphical calculator. Authorities believe he is a member of the notorious Al-Gebra movement. He is being charged with carrying weapons of math destruction. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "notorious Al-Gebra movement" ..hahaaa...

Originally posted by OG_Moti: man did she said sit on his lap all day, he was gentlemen.. maybe he was gentleman cause u broke his legs, i feel sorry for him.. imagin a somali lady or girl sitting on ur lap all daay ouch that must hurt.. anyway.. last time a lady sit on my lap, she was oh my God OG_moti u son of the gun ... what was that.. i said what is what.. she said something is moving ... i cant tell u the rest, but my legs hurted me for a week... so not a good idea to let the lady sit on ur lap, maybe the other way around would be better.. peace LoL. OGM. Sxb, waad iga qoslisay walahi.

Originally posted by Simple Woman: How do u get in? I tried clicking chat... but it doesn't work Hi SW. The chat rooms aren't back yet - the thread is from January 07, 2002 .

Sex jokes are like the best thing to read. Seriously.

From CBS 60 Minutes: “We can't have a country of women in white-collar jobs and men in blue-collar jobs. That's not going to be good for this society." Translation: We can't have a female dominated society/country. Wow! :eek:

This is one of the pics that didn't show up.