Originally posted by SmithNwestern: There is a story that the SNM "Mujahids" or holly warriors hid out in the major cities and that is why Hargaysa and Burco got destroyed. So can we say that the fault in the tragedies of the North West lies squarly with the SNM fighters. Am not like you who wavers Smith. I always blamed the SNM though not squarely for the destruction of Hargeysa and Burco, yes cause they waged war behind civilian lines and they did not give considerate thought to what the reaction would be, cause Siyaad Barre would have not hesitated and neither did he to fire directly at the innocent civilians caught in the cross-fire. However having said that SNM made an ill judgement but they were a national movement who had an ambitiob, to free their country from the tyranny of 30 odd years. What was the ambitious of Morgan in Dhoobley Smith, and be as bold as I have been. But I should not demand that since you are known to be truthful in matters such as this. One thing sure though you would have not been humble as you are today had Morgan captured Kismayo, but since he did not you are what the reer xamar say 'digaag biyo ku dacdey camal' ...eh..eh..eh..

The ball is been played exactly where Smith and co. want it to be played. Indhacadde or Indhaamadoobe is not responsible for what happened in Dhobley. As for Yusuf Inda Cade, dear the people of Dhoobley and their leaders on the ground blame the man. The man already occupies Marka, Barava and yet you over look him and attack Yey, why? Even if we agreed you with this point, would you accept the fact that Morgan (the brave general) made Dhobley his military base, thus making it a target. Smith : I dont support Morgan , please spare us the mockery, you supported,support,applaud and applauded Morgan, and it was you who was crying that he will re-establish the original owners back to Kismayo. Now that he has appeared in Nairobi instead of central Kismayo as you hoped, you dont support him...eh..eh..eh.. . So if one is born in a town that gives the right to control it against the wishes of the people? Why not it is working for Colonel yeey

Originally posted by Rahima: but i prefer corruption than anarchy. the latter is a by product of the former, and vice versa.

Yes why is that Smith? Damn you are so sensetive and defending a lost case.Afraid of the ghost of Otali he?...eh...eh..eh..

Smith huuno am not chasing shadows bnut I point out what you disregard as irrelevant but is vital inorder to analyse the situation. Now you can quote cxolonel dheere, gabow, or even dhex-dhexaad, the fact is that Dhoobley was made a battle-field by Morgan and those who hosted him. The fact is barre Hiirale never intended to invade Dhoobley, never wanted it but when Morgan wages war from there the consequences are clear and should not be suprising however sad it is. Hence my underltying point is that what happened was catalysted by Morgan and his supporters..period. HornA huuno be firm and alert in your position, so far you are being weighted.

Originally posted by OG_Girl: Xarago, Horn, is some how reasonable and when he finds him self wrong atleast he try to be fair and correct.. so give him a credit. Eddo you are the most reasonable and sanity in the political section so I would understand if you would from time to time go and slap the hands of those who stray and bring them back to normality. Am sorry if I came across to you someone who wants and survives on feuds and anti-peace. And yes you are right in your assesment of humble Horn in the above statement. But eddo it tastes bitter and foul when he comes acroos in a such reconciliatory stance and yet the ones who were applauding Morgan and Colonel yeey are having a go at him as if their heros are innocent and dont have blood on their hands. And eddo you are right I might be a foreigner (as you perceive) when it comes to you and morgan, barre, and co. But that does not refuse me to have a go when I can.. ...

Originally posted by Bari_Nomad: Horn, So it has taken these distrubing photos for you to realize how destructive those who you support are. Somalida waxay ku mahmahda 'doqon usha agtiisa aya lagu dhufta, hadu garan waayo asaga aya lagu dhufta'. Though am quoting BariNomad the mahmah is for you HornAfrique. Huuno if you are so weak that you cannot defend what you stand for and that you change your stance from time to time inorder to suit your adversarious then you get this kind of response from BariNomad. What you mean by Horn: Morgan did attack, but the people who were the cause of that destruction I've just seen, whether they come from Morgan's beel or Hiiraale's beel or any other beel, should be brought to justice. Do you think bariNomad or even Smith and co. will love to hear your 'berlaxawsi'. the fact of the matter is 'balayo Morgan kama horeyniin' and hence is responsible for all this. It is now emerging some countries in IGAD encouraged him and armed him, but as usual he failed in the mission that was set. They sentenced him in abseente and they could not carry out their word but rather sent a plane for him when he was on the run and caused havoc and disarray in a region that was at peace with itself. That is point you should take Horn and have confidence in yourself huuno, do not patronise these people they are diminishing in political stature and the final nail in the coffin will come on the 10th of October...eh..eh..eh .

It is sad to see such pictures, what is more sad is to see the perpetrator of such hideous crime is being entertained in Nairobi now as a Somali politician and given a platform to express his views or a reason as to why he did not succed to expand his atrocity. Morgan should be brought to justice by IGAD as they stated earlier.

I usually dont participate in religious debates simply not only because my knowledge in that is lacking but the fact that I might say something might bring 'dembi' to me. But to those who are saying it is outright Haram I would like to ask what does the religion say about how someone who his family,wife/husband, children, brothers,sisters ..etc., has been murdered by a unbelievers army should respond? What is the 'tarikh' open for such kind of a person? Because I believe above everything else my religion, Islam, is wise,big and wide and answers all questions. Marka walalayaal ma ficna in aad noqotaan seef la bood, ee waxa habon arrinta sida ay tahey in aad uu qadarisaan. Salafi halkan ayu wuxuu so daliley xadisyo lakiin adiga waxaa kugu sual ah ma waxaad ledahey dadkaas muslinka ah oo musliniimo lo leynayo hacmaha ha labtan mise ha iska celiyaan.

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Waxaa qoraalka la idiin qeybiyey soo saaray aniga & madaxweynaha dowladda KMG ah C/qaasim Salaad Xasan,....... maadaama aan wakiil ka nahay Libooya Kenya ilaa Koofurta Gaalkacyo awooda u dhexeysa anaga ayaa wakiil ka ah, How much do you agree with the above statement Smith, bearing in mind that Dheere maxamed Dheere is an ally of Colonel yeey, or is it 'was'? Am loosing track now.

Allah uu naxaristo...amiin..!

u r right eddo^^

^^^waxa la yidhi 'carabta intey ku nabto ayey Nebigena kaga hodhmadhan' Eddo you have a seious complex dont know whether to term it as superior or inferior. never the less eddo am fine, and my check-up was good, but I think am going over the edge soon.So it is time for new dentures, plastic surgery, and the lot.You know you have to keep shape in this World I dont want to be a 'duuq' and loose confidence

Qofka walan raba waxaa lagu garta waxay mooda in uusan qofna fahmi kariin....

Originally posted by OG_Girl: Yeah,as my mind is open to many things.... I see world with defferent colours. Somalida waxay ku mahmahda 'nin is fanshey wa ri' is nugtey'. My dear niece take it from the horse mouth you are utterly opposite of as you profile yourself. Mida kale why all this blah blah as if am interviewing you for a job. And a word of advise from someone who surely know is wiser than you retreat from ever quoting your elders in a public forums. We all have or had grand dads and parents who have from time to time whispered a word into our ears...but I doubt whether we have come to a public forum using as a supporting evidence but always used it as an understanding theory. Huuno you seem to be thinking that what you have is absent from others, just for once think the vice versa. Last Point : I don't blindly wave a flag, I reason, cause simply my grand father tough me is very embarrassment to just defend wrong out of emotional eh..eh..eh.! those who are blind are the ones who dont have a flag. And yes am emotionally strong about my flag, isnt that the strong ingredient you need to have passion and conviction for your cause to be emotionally motivated...guess you would have to refer that back to your resources.... 'Illahow ha na cadabiin'

Originally posted by Sophist: Tankale, afka yuusan ku qaloocan ee isimada reeraha afkaaga kadeyso. Wa bila isimo. Huuno isamada Las canood wa hodhe ayey go'an gadhen, wana Dowlaad calan heysta. EE adiga yusan af-shimbidh kugu dhiciin ee ha habariin dadka reer Las-canood. Mida kale niman cada qadata ah wadhkooda hala shir imaniin huno

^^^which says a lot about you

^^ Ok aunt agony..!

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: I do not support Morgan or any other warlord who I am in some fashion related to..... Morgan was wrong, Hiiraale is wrong...... Is that good enough for you or do you wnat us Southerners to keep on shooting at each other No..no..no Smith. You support Morgan and Colonel yeey. And yes it was only Morgan who was wrong. Somalida waxay ku mahmahda 'gari laba nin kama wada qosliso'. It was Morgan who was responsible for the fighting and hence responsible for the ensuing consequence. You cannot have it both ways Smith remembering how enthutiastic and hopeful you were of Morgans adventure before it turned foul, of which we warned you in advance, but id u listen, big NO. eh...eh...eh... ..am enjoying this. Gabadha_Og huuno keep going to school you are to young for this.

Originally posted by silent-sistah: coss, my rationale aint feeling itself, and though i feel the way i feel, there is a small part of me that feels it is wrong. eh..eh..eh.. That is rich coming from you.

^^Huuno Fataxada Fataxo ku darso amiinkana racii...badaha kale ha gelin..mesha duco ayan uu nimi

Originally posted by HornAfrique: On another note what in the world are you yapping out? Fighting has occured, it was unfortunate and alot of dhibaatooyin aa kaso dhexbaxay, but now there is hopefully peace looming and as I have been saying Kismayo is a SOMALI city and all Somalis have a right to settle there. Horn you are right..I will stop yapping if just for once Smith accepts that it was wrong of Morgan to attack the inhabitants of Juba and that he is responsible for the dead of the hundreds of innocent lives in the recent fighting. If you get that from Smith, barri Nomad and WD then I will stop yapping. Ok Horn.

Originally posted by Garab Tuujiye: You hate puntlanders and thats very clear..I'm a big politics fan and I read what you guys write except I don't agree with non of you because kala eexasho ayaad wadaan...... hada marku Jab garay MORGAN alalees baa bilowday sidii in aad aroos dhex fadhisid..lol.. eh..eh..eh.. ! Marba mid aya so butacaya..! Garaba tuujiye huuno garab aad tuujisiid Allah ku sahlo..amiin dheh. Mida kale hadi aad wax dhalileysiid waxaa habon in aad labadaba dhalishiid madama aan aniga iyo Smith iyo inta weheliisaba aan isku af-aheyn. You are not wrong that I love jabka Morgan, now I ask you is that a crime? So huuno by criticising my belief and saying it is inhuman, you clearly show you agree with Smith and his belief regarding Somaliland and all other Somali people safe for those living in Puntland. Marki Garaab tuujiyo dhex-dhaxaad ma tihiide ee so tafaxayto oo gobta dagalka iskeen. Illahey waa ii badhey sidi aan adiga iyo Smith iyo wixii lahalmala aan uu garbashi laha. De wa hadal uun, haso qalab qadan oo ha uu maleyn in uu yahey dagal gacan ka hadal ah. So huuno I ask you my opposition to puntlanders is the same parallel level to Smiths, Wd's and co. opposition to the Rest of Somalia and S/land. Therefore why you distatste mine and approve theirs, am asking you 'shoulder-massager'.

^^Xasidsana...shuban kugu dhac oo xarka kugu dheg..hanaga habariin wiilka mar dambe

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Che, thanks for your reply. I understand your stance, however while I agree that Somalia as a whole needs new leaders to support I see no alternative to Yey, he is after power yes, but atleast he also brings order and security. What is the alternative to strength of Yey, Jama's weakness, Jinni's confusion or the idealism of Abdirizaq Hagi Hussain? Notice that Smith does not think beyond his circle...eh..eh..eh .