Landers take easy people! the future is great,nothing you could really do about it.

Mintid somaliland talks, are very much part of that policy! Mr Hasan got little room to deliver anything with his luck of outreach and comprimise Mintid Farayar;947053 wrote: The raison d'être for this entire Conference is an attempt to marshall the different non-Somali initiatives ongoing in Somalia to fall in line behind the Anglo-American strategy for the region. Of these initiatives, there are many. There's a lot of foreign cash floating around Mogadishu(primarily coming from Muslim states flush with cash) which doesn't come through the financial monitoring mechanisms set up by the West thru the UN. There's the Kenyan-endorsed Jubba initiative which has its troublesome maritime boundary implications for the booming hydrocarbon industry in East Africa, there's Ethiopian disenchantment(the favorite surrogate of the West in the region when it comes to security issues/Al Shabaab) with diminishing military-budget support from both the EU and US.... and the list goes on..... All of these have the potential to upset and destabilize the Anglo-American blueprint for the region and Somalia

Oodweyne;946994 wrote: Xiinfaniin, The UN office makes no larger point in terms of what Somaliland is insisting to be. After all we are not a sovereign nation by the UN. Hence so long as we are determined to hold on to our de-facto sovereign status and we have in our hands the means of negotiating our future relationship with Somalia and we are free to walk away from it if we see no use to us from it, then the political cards of our destiny is still in our hands. And that is what matters to us in larger sense, not whether some UN office is in Mogadisho or not. And even in here we are working to be semi independent from it by way of approaching the aid givers in the international community so that instead of UN be the conduit that dispense such aid in Somaliland, we can convince them to directly dispense the aid on a bilateral way and work with Somaliland government. It really does. No special treatment for somaliland, it very much regard as Puntland. Somaliland done the election, now it is puntland and next it will be moqdisho. do you see the pattern. The only thing you got is the talk for now

OODWEYNE Silaanyo and his ministers are getting more realistic. Siilaanyo talking about the trip He is slowly,telling the true, not the whole true to his people. http://www.kalshaalenews.com/?p=21794

OOdweyne INT does not really care what future relationship will be, that is the point. The talks are more face saving and technicality. The UN office will move to moqdisho and Somaliland will deal with moqdisho office.

Well, the issue of somaliland ,is the hand of somalia goverment. what ever that means for you

My understanding, President Hasan got conditionally support here. No more talk, he has to deliver his plan through out the country. President Hasan has given order to reach out and hold national election by 2016. Now when he comes back, he has to change his tone on the issue of jubaland and reach out

I recently came back from northern Somalia. There are still large Oromo communities in Somaliland, particularly berbera and hargeysa. All service jobs are done by Oromo and Ethiopian. 80% of Somaliland population is concentrated Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera and there are very few nomads in Somaliland compared to rest of Somalia. To be fair, larger portion of displaced southern Somalis live puntland than Somaliland, especially more so in Boosaaso. Puntland (gaalkacayo-Boosaaso) = Somaliland (Hargeysa-Ceerigaabo) if you count only locals. Somaliland population is not growing faster as rest of country because two reasons. Decades of urbanization unlike any place else and fewer nomads

xiinfaniin;878831 wrote: We welcome the new prime minister and wish him luck...he seems to be a nice guy who understands Somalia's political station very well. Here is my expectation : 1) preserve the transitional constitution, help complete/clarify constitutional issues left for the post transition government, and organize a referendum on new dastuur on 2016 2) help form other Somali federal states 3) support the Kismayo initiative that is underway in Kismayo and Nairobi 4) engage Somaliland on the outstanding issues 5) strengthen Puntland relationship with Mogadishu This is your wishes however he needs to work with every body for the moment. Border less Clan Federalism is not easy thing to do and this is something for parliament and group expertise should work on. The issue is how to create local governments with equal opportunity for all

President can simply name a governor from Azania for now, that may limit the tention. clans meetings is only benefitial for peace, not for creating administration. Somali must move on puntland style regional administration.

Mintid Farayar;875322 wrote: What's obvious from both story-lines is how divided the 'Khaatumo' constituency remains to the present day. 'Khaatumo' seems yet another project concocted by ambitious individuals within the subclan to use as a bargaining chip elsewhere (in this particular case, a bargaining chip for the new seats in Mogadishu). mintid Farayar = Xaaji xunduf? Good job for khaatumo security forces in buhodle again! seats in moqdisho? siilaanyo sent all his elders to moqdisho even through buhodle and minister duur was just speaking that and more last week.

The Somali proverb “nimaan waxa soo socda garan, waxa joogana magarto”. It seems farmaajo may not elect as PM, but his most experience candidate for the security. The good part of Kacaan was the security. This point Somali needs new form kacaan and guulwadayaal and Farmaajo tactics is good. DO NOT MAKE MISTAKE PRESIDENT SH. HASSAN AND A PUNTLAND PM WIL BE DISASTOROUS

I have to say Obama addressing broad Muslim world and Muslims was shameless. He should not be addressing entire Muslim world, if he wants to talk the video and riots that is find but his speech was very much overreach. an election coming in US and Muslims should think about voting Obama.

Obama’s Speech to the United Nations General Assembly — Text Following is a text of President Obama’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, as released by the White House: In U.N. Speech, Obama Warns Time Runs Short on Iran (September 26, 2012) Mr. President, Mr. Secretary General, fellow delegates, ladies and gentleman: I would like to begin today by telling you about an American named Chris Stevens. Chris was born in a town called Grass Valley, California, the son of a lawyer and a musician. As a young man, Chris joined the Peace Corps, and taught English in Morocco. And he came to love and respect the people of North Africa and the Middle East. He would carry that commitment throughout his life. As a diplomat, he worked from Egypt to Syria, from Saudi Arabia to Libya. He was known for walking the streets of the cities where he worked -- tasting the local food, meeting as many people as he could, speaking Arabic, listening with a broad smile. Chris went to Benghazi in the early days of the Libyan revolution, arriving on a cargo ship. As America’s representative, he helped the Libyan people as they coped with violent conflict, cared for the wounded, and crafted a vision for the future in which the rights of all Libyans would be respected. And after the revolution, he supported the birth of a new democracy, as Libyans held elections, and built new institutions, and began to move forward after decades of dictatorship. Chris Stevens loved his work. He took pride in the country he served, and he saw dignity in the people that he met. And two weeks ago, he traveled to Benghazi to review plans to establish a new cultural center and modernize a hospital. That’s when America’s compound came under attack. Along with three of his colleagues, Chris was killed in the city that he helped to save. He was 52 years old. I tell you this story because Chris Stevens embodied the best of America. Like his fellow Foreign Service officers, he built bridges across oceans and cultures, and was deeply invested in the international cooperation that the United Nations represents. He acted with humility, but he also stood up for a set of principles -- a belief that individuals should be free to determine their own destiny, and live with liberty, dignity, justice, and opportunity. The attacks on the civilians in Benghazi were attacks on America. We are grateful for the assistance we received from the Libyan government and from the Libyan people. There should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. And I also appreciate that in recent days, the leaders of other countries in the region -- including Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen -- have taken steps to secure our diplomatic facilities, and called for calm. And so have religious authorities around the globe. But understand, the attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on America. They are also an assault on the very ideals upon which the United Nations was founded -- the notion that people can resolve their differences peacefully; that diplomacy can take the place of war; that in an interdependent world, all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity and security for our citizens. If we are serious about upholding these ideals, it will not be enough to put more guards in front of an embassy, or to put out statements of regret and wait for the outrage to pass. If we are serious about these ideals, we must speak honestly about the deeper causes of the crisis -- because we face a choice between the forces that would drive us apart and the hopes that we hold in common. Today, we must reaffirm that our future will be determined by people like Chris Stevens -- and not by his killers. Today, we must declare that this violence and intolerance has no place among our United Nations. It has been less than two years since a vendor in Tunisia set himself on fire to protest the oppressive corruption in his country, and sparked what became known as the Arab Spring. And since then, the world has been captivated by the transformation that’s taken place, and the United States has supported the forces of change. We were inspired by the Tunisian protests that toppled a dictator, because we recognized our own beliefs in the aspiration of men and women who took to the streets. We insisted on change in Egypt, because our support for democracy ultimately put us on the side of the people. We supported a transition of leadership in Yemen, because the interests of the people were no longer being served by a corrupt status quo. We intervened in Libya alongside a broad coalition, and with the mandate of the United Nations Security Council, because we had the ability to stop the slaughter of innocents, and because we believed that the aspirations of the people were more powerful than a tyrant. And as we meet here, we again declare that the regime of Bashar al-Assad must come to an end so that the suffering of the Syrian people can stop and a new dawn can begin. We have taken these positions because we believe that freedom and self-determination are not unique to one culture. These are not simply American values or Western values -- they are universal values. And even as there will be huge challenges to come with a transition to democracy, I am convinced that ultimately government of the people, by the people, and for the people is more likely to bring about the stability, prosperity, and individual opportunity that serve as a basis for peace in our world. So let us remember that this is a season of progress. For the first time in decades, Tunisians, Egyptians and Libyans voted for new leaders in elections that were credible, competitive, and fair. This democratic spirit has not been restricted to the Arab world. Over the past year, we’ve seen peaceful transitions of power in Malawi and Senegal, and a new President in Somalia. In Burma, a President has freed political prisoners and opened a closed society, a courageous dissident has been elected to parliament, and people look forward to further reform. Around the globe, people are making their voices heard, insisting on their innate dignity, and the right to determine their future. And yet the turmoil of recent weeks reminds us that the path to democracy does not end with the casting of a ballot. Nelson Mandela once said: “To be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.” True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe, and that businesses can be opened without paying a bribe. It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear, and on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people. In other words, true democracy -- real freedom -- is hard work. Those in power have to resist the temptation to crack down on dissidents. In hard economic times, countries must be tempted -- may be tempted to rally the people around perceived enemies, at home and abroad, rather than focusing on the painstaking work of reform. Moreover, there will always be those that reject human progress -- dictators who cling to power, corrupt interests that depend on the status quo, and extremists who fan the flames of hate and division. From Northern Ireland to South Asia, from Africa to the Americas, from the Balkans to the Pacific Rim, we’ve witnessed convulsions that can accompany transitions to a new political order. At time, the conflicts arise along the fault lines of race or tribe. And often they arise from the difficulties of reconciling tradition and faith with the diversity and interdependence of the modern world. In every country, there are those who find different religious beliefs threatening; in every culture, those who love freedom for themselves must ask themselves how much they’re willing to tolerate freedom for others. That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/world/obamas-speech-to-the-united-nations-general-assembly-text.html?pagewanted=all

I proved him, people want him for reason, His supporters are simply doing everything to elect him, other candidate do not have similar supporters. If he elected he shuold build more and more prisons for reculturition.

Whit the political culture in modish and the amount of corruption is there which the president has being part of it. the facf he lived there most of his life. I do not think he do have broad vision to deal with it. With overwhelmingly mandate Somali people give him. The president and his government are expected action from day one. No need sub clan meeting, it will not benefit anyone and will not help him, in the end of day what matters, is the performance in area of security, justice and economy development. The president needs to make his mine, right now. It is all about the preminister he elects and how he works with him, will be vital for the success of his government. Is he going to choice easy way which is to collect as much wealth he could collect or work for people? People in modish are not carazy for wanting Farmaajo to be PM. It should be some charismatic and he will start first day

xaaji waa jiraa gobaygaas iyo arinta gabadhuba, balse waxbaa ka hkaldan gobaygan, ma isku toos toosna, waxbaa ka khaldan. waxaa jira dad sida sooyaal oo kale gobayo uu sayid tirin dhaha, waxaa tiriyey sayidka. sida gobaygii "wab markaan kasiiyaa indhaha wahab kaduulaaye"

Xaaji Xunjuf;873504 wrote: What about his vulgar poems Waxano kale yaa ku gabyaa ma Sheikh ba afkisa waxa so marin kara. Waxay ugu saftaan sidi horweyn kaalin loo simaye Soddon dowlis is baa lagu shuba saacad iyo leyle ilko suruqa bay leedhiyo foolal saawirahe Sanbab weeye ceedhin afki suuliga ahaaye Sullankeed la naar wa maxay sabuhu dhuuqaane waxa saarta Soomaalidi saaruqa ahayde Sarkaaliyo subeydaarada iyo sow jarka kuda eh Maxaan ceeb Qadhmuun kala hadlaa waba saaniyade Adeer Gabaygna waxbaa ka khaldan, sax maaha

NGONGE;873449 wrote: ^^ Which brings us back to my original question; have you read the book and saw what conclusions the man drew? As for those that read the book, one would hope that they would have less prejudice than you and (at least) try to view it with an open mind (as with any similar book). Sheeko maqaaxida ka bax ninyaho (Kenya has been bad to you). the title said everyhting, "sheekh mise shaydaan" that said all, both talent of author and the content. this is the first gobay of sayid mohamed, most talented peot ever Rabaa deeq leh roobaa qabow,raaxo nabad baa leh Janaa ruga Raxmaan baa barya leh,raacis Nabi baa leh Wardaa ridis leh wali baa riya leh,rabid shareecaa leh Run baa fiican been baa rufucan,raran cadaab baa leh

I agree with you the last part. But do you agree with me, with 14 years puntland do not have institutions, there are some building, but not effective government agency. As they put it in puntland "madax kanool". How a system like will bring Somalia back, no way. You can not run a big clans government that is the political system in puntland and puntland Politians expertise.

though!. General duke could not come another way this guy to look good. He was part of a failed adminisrations both puntland and TFG. Somalia needs Institutions how another incompetent will understand it.

I want make clear, I am not combaring the prophet with anybody but I found similarities These are similarities, did you find other similarities? 1) The word Shaydaan was used in both 2) Married lot of women 3) Amateurish written 4) similar tactics, style and hate

General Duke;872659 wrote: The Khatumo group should start convincing their "friends" in Mogadishu to convince their allies in Hargaysa to vacate the occupied areas.: So your friendship with moqdisho ends if tolka do not get PM post! I remember you telling us your close relatioship with moqdisho folk but that when abdilaahe yusuf was in moqdisho. Faroole camp is one of main factor the reason Sl in lasanod. However President Mohamoud is from a region where they did not contribute the liberation and sacriified made, so it is right to remind him to be carefull with secessions.

odaygu ma xidid ayuu reer Hargeysa layahay, muxuu kaqabanayaa meesha. another mahiga!

THIS IS THE PEOM THEY DID NOT LIKE IT Ii said a new Muslim king came power in Ethiopia and he sent a delegation to dervishes, before dervish arrive Herar a man from sl tribes found out the meeting and he told the British colonial government. The king was killed and sayid made this conclusion ID WAQAASHIYO KUFRIGA WACAD ALAW YAALE WAA NIMAN WALAALA TAN IYO WAAGA AAKHIRE AH WADKII OO AAN DILIN KUFRIGA WAA WEHESHANAAYAANE