lol u just answered my question what u gonna pm me?? either way I enabled my pm....feel free to pm me lol Stoic that lady is pretty. But, I am sure ur Somali wife is 10 times prettier. We somalis have that extra beauty...so conceited iyo nus ma istidhi

^^Sawaxan maxa la dhaha??..I'm serious.

Yeah it is very romantic sis. Glad u liked it... salaam

sifiican uma fahmin laakin waxaan u maleenaya in ay tahay hees wadani ah. INSHALLAH I will get my mom to translate it for me.. check this one, salaam

lol I just asked that question scroll up and he doesnt know.. mesha dad is dhaamin ba isku uruuray mise wa luqad kale lol salaam

^lol ileen nama dhaantid... haye bal translate the lyrics...wali ma fahmin...diryan maxa la dhaha?lol

oh just the chorus is somali..saa ma dhahdid maanto dhan baan isku taxalujinay in aan heesto dhan fahano lol.. I guess the chorus is somali... duulka maqana maxa logu yedhaya talow? salaam

NNC lol im the kinda person who likes to understand what im listening to...otherwise I get annoyed..n i usually write down the lyrics... n ur right I repeated three times and it still not making sense lol..so its probably some other lang..and even if some somali is included the lady probably has an accent and the word arent coming out right... habaar walid maan raran agoon xoolo kamaan rogan waa maxay rafaadkani love this song.... salaam

^^LOOl nop I still didnt get it.. diiriye ma magac bay uga jeeda?? lemme listen to the song one more time, maybe I will get it this time.. salaam

somali oo dhan baa kursiga intaas oo sano isku haystay mid haduu yidhi madaxwayne baa ahay ma wax lala yaaba...it might be funny to the outside world, but in Somalia its probably the thing...mid kasta in uu moodo in uu asaga xaq u leeyahay.. salaam

^loool dirac iyo ciyaarta nocas isma gasho baan is idhi... laakin somali ma aha waxay ku hesaya..waxba waan fahmi wayey.. salaam

Ibti halkaas baan hadalka ku jarana. It is better off that way. Ilaahay somali ha u sahlo dhamaan.

^ nice song love it.

^lol Val I couldnt have agreed more...

^lol just readin thru the posts and knowing these posts were written good three yrs ago is creepy enoughhhhh.. salaam

lol waxana yaa so qufey.....time is pretty fast. You all just reminding me of how old I'm getting..*sighs* I think after my bday this summer I will not get any older... khalaas I will join gabadhaha korin ..I can start relating to them now lol... salaam

Aaliya, I challenge you to FIND one post, that I ever made which told certain clans to fight or kill another. Go ahead, I will wait. You will never find me saying kill them or they deserve it, or punish them or where is there men. Ibtisaam SOL is public forum, it is better if you comment on the topic simply, I don’t know why you turned the thread to a discussion between myself and you. It is not my intention to go after your posts, it doesn’t matter, just like you believe that snm was just cause and a resistance, similarly, I believe ssc cause is just cause and justified resistance, people of ssc are only defending their lives and homes against those snm militia that invaded their homeland But, since you asked for it here you go, http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/9/22148/3#000037 In order for this to happen, I think the vast number of MJ traders in Burco should be held hostage, both their life and wealth, so that both sides have something to lose. In one thread, you were calling for revenge and said that all MJ clans should be punished, how about if one person from SSC, said since SL militia is invading sscland, killing innocent, destroying homes, and forcing people of SSC to take part of sl election and accept the secession. Accordingly, Burco/Hargeisa should be attacked, destroy their homes and forced to be part of Somalia. But, I think that is wrong. I think two wrongs don't make right. http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/9/16435/3#000032 Poster, I don't support Yusufism, because it represents the interest of one clan at the expense of others, it is based on power grabbing and domination. Its followers are full of false pride, Same thing, Somaliland, snm, secession represent the interest of one single clan at the expense of others, it is based on power-grabbing, land grabbing and domination, and its followers are full of false pride http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/9/10575/22 I told you to respect the views of the people who live their and do not rub your views in their face. Same thing, I am telling those who support sl/secession to respect the views of the people who live there and do not rub your views in their face As for personally insulting you and yad yad ya, I did not, I told you to pick up a book and do some general reading, that is not an insult but a sound advice. As for ka gubanasaa dagaalo dhacay 20yrs ago, There was no need for name calling and insults (confused, ignorant etc), I chose not to respond personal attacks, because I believe once the person resorts to insults that means he/she has no point and lost the debate I have read enough books about Somalia. You don’t need to repeat that like a broken record, if I disagree with your political stances, that doesn’t mean you should insult my intelligence. I can say the samething go abti and learn about Somali history. only when you try to re-write history while the first generation is still sitting. Otherwise I'm not fussed about it. Every story has 2 sides, I shared what I know and read about that period of Somali history, and actually it is you who re-writing the history by saying that snm was a resistance, when it was in reality a clan faction like other clan factions. Also, you are the one implying that am for war, when in fact I am against the injustice that is taking place right now as we speak. Which you don’t seem to concern yourself over after all your Somaliland clan faction is forcing/killing innocents. there is no such thing as SNM now, if like Duke you are using it as a clan name now? In any case anigu I did not have a say when the SNM formed, and I dont support any sort of fighting, let alone on the only semi peaceful region. Many supporters of snm/Somaliland believe that Siyaad Barre government and Abdullahi Yusuf government were dominated by one clan. Same thing many people from SSC believe that Somaliland is one clan project. Somalia politics is all about clan politics, snm was a clan faction, and today so-called Somaliland is still clan faction. Snm=Somaliland that is fact, in 1991 snm faction changed its name to Somaliland, and the leader of snm Mr. Tuur became the first president of So-called Somaliland. Me too I don’t support any kind of fighting/war, that is why it was wrong for snm to start and call for a war in peaceful republic in 1981., and all other Somali clan factions were not different. hence why you don't see me forming an opinion other than SCC need to determine their own future. Unfortunately, Somaliland militia and many supporters of sl believe that SSC people shouldn’t have a choice, they support the aggression and war sl militia waging against people of SSC. ciidna yaan la qasbiin I agree with you, lakiin hada khasab baa ka socda ssc sida Las Anod and widhwidh I said defend against aggression, how canone defend aggression by invading the people it is suppose to defend? Many Iraqis believe America started a war of aggression against Iraq, while many American believe that American troops went to Iraq to defend Iraqis. Most people of Buhoodle don’t want SL militia to invade Buhoodle, specially after what happen in Las Anod, widhwidh, and Bali Hadhac. Now, I understand where you coming from, as someone who support Somaliland/secession, like jb and ducaale, you believe Somaliland militia should defend buhoodle. When many people from SSC believe that Ethiopian attack on Buhoodle and somaliland’s attack on widhwidh was not coincidence. Even one secessionist ngonge believe that there is some coordination between the 2 attacks are you serious?? Would it not then make sense he attacked NFD Kenya and Ethios region? lool walahi this made me laugh! President Siyad Barre he send his troops to liberate Somali region occupied by Ethiopia, I am surprised that you didn't read or heard about the 1977 war between Ethiopia and Somalia… humorous that you missed that well known war. I suggest you to go back and read Somali history books and take your own advice. Yes, Siyad Barre was defending the borders of Somalia against Ethiopia, and Somali clan factions who were all clients of Ethiopia. Somali government was forced to defend its territories. anigu waxan ku leeahey do some reading and becareful what you wish for; people who wish for war and distruction of Daadka maskiinta aah need to check themselve. Don't worry, I am not picking on you, I don’t wish for a war. Sub hana allah, don’t put words in my mouth. I wish peace for all Somali people and I hope for peace between northwest(hargeysa/burco) and SSC However if people are invading people’s regions and not respecting other people wishes. Then you don’t expect people to sit and watch their elders women and children to be killed. Yes, they will fight the injustice. There’s no way around it. Peace has its price. All in all, I think there is misunderstanding between us. We agree on some important issues like no one should be forced, which can solve all Somali problems. The issues of Somaliland and the SSC can be solved peacefully easily by respecting the wishes of the people of each region.

crazy people writing stuff and nonsense so they can get foreign help. I guess they are not confident enough that they will face our Garad Jama and his men on their own lol... and how heart breaking to see people who are invading people's lands yet calling the people they invaded terrorists? who is the actual terrorist the man defending his land? or the one invading and forcefully taking over other people's lands and killing innocent people among them kids, women, and elders? lets see where these bs takes them... salaam

tusbaxuna ma xaraam buu noqday? daliilkaas xagee laga helay lol.. salaam

Dalsan- qoomAL& Canab

Cuqdada iska saar Aaliya, I picked up on your comment because it caught my eye, I didn't read this guy aad iss hiisantan because madax igu xaanuna, he is always venting random things in most threads. If you want to argue with him that is your call, but anigu I don't fight with people who thinks they are part of ongoing conflicts in Somali soil while in the west. Ibtisaam, You don’t need to get angry, you started to comment on my post. I didn’t say anything about you, so you shouldn’t get very emotional and insult me personally. Yes we disagree on Somali politics, but we can agree to disagree with out insults and bad mouthing. The way you talking Ibtisaam, you are actually fighting in this forum. While you are in the west, so don’t be hypocrite and exclude yourself Runtii qofka cuqdada qaba waa adi adoo jooga west ayaa wali ka gubanasaa dagaalo dhacay in ka badan 20 sano ka hor that includes you and your "we have men to fight back" Daadkan aad isku tirsdid will end up losing their life, and it won't cost you nothing, so I guess it is easy for you to advocate for war Was the snm men you support not losing lives in 1988 and now while they are fighting the ssc?? Are you not now angry and saying that people in somaliland were being abused in the 80s, justifying the snm men and their war with the Somali government? Are you not supporting the 88 war?? Mise shekadu wa marba say kugu baxdo… As for your other comment, without going into details about Somalia, walahi you sound ignorant and worse belittling the suffering of so many somalis (and before you say so, these people I speak of were not Isa*aq nor my relatives, but they were Somali) The Somali government was systematic in its abuse, maybe your family were fine, maybe you had access to education, health iyo waxad sheegety, but the majority of Somalis did not and on top of that were oppressed. Baal adigu pick up a book, any book on Somalia and do some general reading about when the Somali government started falling part. The SNM and other similar organisations just kicked a hollow ship over. First of all stop calling me names “ignorant” and the like and learn to share your view without name calling. Secondly, I did not belittle the suffering of any Somalis. Read my post again without preconceived notion abt where I stand in the current political issues. I said 1981 Somalia was established. I did not say anything abt the war that took place in 1988. And, everyone knows how Somalia was in the early 80s and how established it was, that is a fact. And, now incase you are not aware of maybe your families are safe and sound in burco. There are innocent people who had no role in the Somali political chaos being killed in SSC regions by Somaliland government. I don't have a role in either one, so to be honest you are preaching to the wrong person. No one cares what I think, nor do I live in SL/ Somalia, so I don't have to make a choice. If you don't think that you have to make a choice then why are you choosing pits and pieces from my posts. Or, do you think you have a choice when it comes to certain topics and disregard others?? does it all boil down to your political stand?? I think you are confused, I did not advocate for anyone to attack or invade budhoodle, and like abroken record you keep repeating SL ma raabno to me, to which I keep telling I don't care. I asked a rhetorical and valid question to the SL supporters. As for the current news, unless you have some inside story, I read that there were separate attacks, one with SL troops and the other with Ethio troops. As I said I was concerned about Ethiopians randomly attacking women and children (i saw a video of them chasing women which caused a stampede) and I asked why the two states which fight over them did not support them. If you disagree with me you don’t have to call me confused or broken record? Or do you have the tendency to use bad words?? Plus if you don’t care about my repeated words of “SL ma rabno” who asked you to comment on my post?? Or do you think I give abt your repeated lines of “oh hargaisa burco don’t want to be part of Somalia”. I don’t care either. Read what you wrote? And you did advocate invading buhodle by Sl ? when you wrote, Why would you not defend against the Ethiopian aggression? Exactly how will the very group (SL) that brought Ethiopian aggression in buhodle defend buhodle. Doesn’t make sense. In your haste to agree with a none existent point, A&T has led you to a dead end, again if you read Somali history you would know that Siyaad was not securing borders, he was stamping resistance out. You might disagree but Siyaad barre was securing borders and defending the territory of Somali Republic. (Diinac loo raco maleh, they let themselves down, disunity means maraba ciid bad dinca lagu jiidan. United they could make their own, iis jiid jiidna ma jirina, that is all I got to say. But like all poor place, support is brought and sold.) Are you talking about Northwest region in 1988, when most of the current Somaliland politicians were part of President Siyad Barre Government like Riyaale, Cigaal, etc You are right ibti support is bought and Sold. Not a new thing.

Posted by Ibtisam: Aliya are you serious?? Ma ka daba siidano (Put aside whatever debate you are having with the other dude, I support people to make their own choice) But what I am picking up on is what you said above in the quote. Is it not too soon to re-write history? or have you not done any reading on Somalia 1975-1990s? I would be interested to read how you came to the conclusion that people in Somalia, especially in the North, had everything. It is funny how you chose to pick only my comments. And, chose to not address sacad ducale’s comments and his hatred comments to the people of SSC, to an extent he calls them Kashmir and advocated for it to be burned. But, my comment was exactly reflecting the truth that was taking place at the time. There was a government, good education and good health care system. There was also peace from south to north at the time when snm was created at 1981 compare to today where there is tribal civil war both in North and south Somalia. At the end of the day you said you respect the choice of the people. People of the SSC want nothing to do with Somaliland just like Somaliland wants to do nothing with Somalia. Posted by ibtisam: To the Somaliland supporters: IS the Buuhodle attack by the Ethiopians an invasion of your "border" and national security/ interest. Why would you not defend against the Ethiopian aggression? Ethiopia and Somaliland jointly attacked Buuhodle/widhwidh at the same time if you were following the news. People of buuhodle want nothing to do with Somaliland so why are you advocating for Somaliland to invade buhodle on the name of defending imaginary border. Now you dont want somali government to come to Hargaisa and burco in the name of defending the Somali borders. Posted by A& T Aaliya is right, there was a government in Somalia when SNM started fighting. Sure, there were oppression against SNM clan as well. Like it is now. There is a government in Somaliland, but the government there doesn't want to allow the SSC people to choose what they want, which is a dawlad goboleed named SSC. So, when Somaliland army attacks Buuhoodle or Las-Anod, the argument it makes about keeping borders is the same as the old one used by Jaalle Siyaad. A& T my sentiment exactly. Unfortunately, Somalilanders don’t want to see that...way isla qumanyihiin..aduun.

^Ilaahay ha u naxaristo...inkasto uu jid qalada noloshisa ku dhameeyey. Hadana ilaahay wa naxariis badanyahay... salaam

Wow che he has so much hatred for the SSC people. You are right I will leave it at that inshallah.. Thanks for bringing to ma attention that post. wa salam

^^Bubaa, Sifir, and Mohamed Omar are not individuals. They have the support of Somalis. Also, xagla toosiye has a strong support from the SSC regions. and the two men you mentioned above can hardly be a problem to the future of the SSC. Even themselves they dont believe in the secessionist agenda they are there for their own individual reasons. salaam