" من تشبه بقوم فهو منهم " Originally posted by yaa tahay " من تشبه بقوم فهو منهم "..that would mean whoever acts like a group of ppl is one of them? but wouldnt this be referring to more extreme acts such as partying late at night, drinking, etc even when it comes to celebrating the Islamic new year. I would think Allah swt is telling us to refrain from wasting a great deal of time celebrating wax waxba laga soo biirsaneen (and also this would be innovation or in arabic bidca since it wasnt celebrated back in the prophet's time csw)... But, just wishing someone a happy new year? it is just words right I dnt think that is necessarily haraam..So, I would agree with Ismalura on this!!!! But, I could be wrong. Allah yaclam!!!!

5 so true it is isnt..wasnt it the islamic new year sometime in the beginning of December. So happy islamic new year a bit too late but better late than never. I hope you guys have a good new year, and that allah swt blesses you with everything you ever dreamed of and more. Kulu sana wa antum bikhyr. salaam

Blesse & Juxa mashallah you both raised good points. I agree with you that if you are 17 it doesnt necessary mean you are gonna be in doomed marriage and that ppl vary. However, my point was that in most cases at that age the person is not ready to cope with such responsibility as marriage especially those of us who were raised abroad. One of my many aunts moved here when she was only 17 or so and she single handedly raised two sons, we help her out but it is not the same. She was a responsible girl she knew how to run a household. Even now at 20 something I can not say the samething about myself (its the sad truth that when we are raised with our parents they do so much for us that we lose that responsibility factor some worse than others I am sure am not the worse lol..alhamdulilah to some extent I can run a household).. But, like you said sisters, regardless of age you will confront a lot of issues when you get married. Which is why I said earlier in one of my posts that nowadays even girls who are 20 plus years get divorced within the first few months of marriage because they were not raised to tackle those issues neither did they prepare themselves, they had it easy all their life you know what im trying to say.. ppl are not taught in the west to accommodate someone. We get everything we need/want/desire....not to generalize but it is what it is... Inshallah may allah swt make it easy on everyone regardless of when they get married and make realize that marriage is more than just marriage (you dont get married cuz the farxiyo next door got married and you dont wanna be left out) but you get married for the right reasons and you know that you will have your ups and downs (and you dnt have to get divorced the min something goes wrong in a relationship you work it out ..and if that happened we wouldnt have had high percentage of single moms)..ppl just need to learn that marriage requires so much more than what it seems outside .Oh its beautiful to be married don't get me wrong but theres more downs than ups believe me like what one shiekh said it is 30% joy and that other 70% you are working toward that 30% I couldnt have said it in a better way walahi he nailed it.. So dont rush it marriage is not something to be rushed. All that plans might seem worthless and you might say you will confront difficulties either way. So let me highlight that the point is not whether you will face difficulties or not clearly you will it is just how prepared are you to tackle it to accommodate that person, to know when you are wrong to admit your mistakes and take responsibility for it, to express yourself in a better mean rather than say hey I am out than this relationship when something happens etc... salaam

I am in the process of quitting music, havent quit completely YET and anyhow like I posted there I came across that song by chance and I had to share it with Ismalura.....besides I think once in a while it doesnt hurt to listen to wadani songs. At least I havent listened to love songs since my promise SALAAM

I am such an i-diot, how did I not recognize him. His name is yusuf yare, the same guy who sang SSC way samaatay...love the way he looks, love his songs..what can I say I love him..naa isoo hel!! adigana ka qalee..mid kale baan ku radinana loools Yup will call u sometime tomorrow. SSC way samaatay sara kaca...cod ba ku dhamaaaday.. salaam

^^I like that song too heard it before. Amazing! Saado is a legend! love her!

Pepper spray @ Aaliyah..... Who needs 'a strong fella'? LOL True say. And, girl dont you know I take karate classes. No one can mess with me salaam

^^check that song hun I came across it by chance earlier today. I was in tears by the time that song was finishing. Im sure you would feel it more than me since u have families from there ..Enjoy it! and yeah the dude standing right beside Saado looks like hes getting emotional too. Especially at the part wheere they go ooo O-gadenia way xaroobi (awww man hes cute too meel ma ku ogtahay lol).. salaam

^^LOL you used to teach quran? That is priceless Wrye loool it is cool. It is all joke hun. salaam

Some families could be that way. But, I thought things were slowly changing, like it is something you would expect from a grandma. For instance, not too long ago when my neighbor's younger daughter was getting married, it shocked my ayeeyo lol and she was like oo may siiyaan gabadha ka wayn tii wayn baba so tagane (qouting her here)..im like oo maxa laga sinaya labada gabadhood ta yar baa keensatay..walahi this story reminded me of that conversation I had with my ayeeyo. So the old culture definitely justifies it but didnt things change now? my mom doesnt giva damn whether I bring a guy or my younger sisters do...just the other day she was like tiina diyaar ah ha ii keento looool!! like seriously things have came a long way time to drop the old mentality. dadku iskuma xidhna if someone found a good person that they love they shouldnt stop it cuz the older sister baa wali so tagan after all it is her choice...everyone live your life! salaam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yks47E_7gVM&feature=related Love this shiekh for the sake of Allah. May Allah swt reward him for his good efforts. salaam

looool you were like lets be less paranoid and then u illustrated that creepy example. Classic!

Blessed am not assuming anything abt that particular girl or her mother. I dont know them after all right? ...this is a general comment based on the teenagers I seen get married early. In fact nowadays many people in their 20s who get married get divorced. The divorce rate is rather alarmingly high. And, I just think when you are that young (17 and so ) it just puts you at a vulnerable position. It is good to give yourself time to explore who you are, what you want from life etc... Anyhow, we will agree to disagree. Thats what makes the world a beautiful place. Everyone sees something from a different angle. 5 I am actually for spending good amount of money on your wedding. After, all it comes one day in your whole life. But, not if you cant afford it thats rather pathetic. I dont believe in getting thousands of loans and then spending several years paying back. First get a career have a saving and then have the wedding you wanted. salaam

Whats the difference between maraysa and marasa?? I think its the same idea. Anyways, I CHANGED my signiture now Bashir loool salaam

I actually ended up not going myself. Instead I attended DHIC lectures with couple of my friends. Inshalah next year

Koolkat I still dont see the point of sharing ur photos, status, and your friends with total strangers. Like I said you are not the only one I had ppl i DID NOT know on my page in the past. I am just saying it is not a good thing. waa laga fiicanyahay...laakin everyone is entitled to do as they please. It is a choice after all!!! salaam

Wrya ma waxaas buu maanto dhan amaan iga adhigayey cuz he knows im not from his century oo horay uma fahmayo...since somaliga aan aqaano laakin ka wawayn aqoon mesha odey ii hadlaya oo nune iga dhicinaya miyuu joogin ...wrya I give you the opportunity to talk on my behalf iga celi odeygan salaam

^thank you walaal. Mashallah your post is full of wisdom as well. I hope our posts helped Nugul even in the smallest way possible. Also, everything we write serves first as a reminder to ourselves and then to Nugul and the rest of the Solers.. salaam

oh wow I just read the article somalina posted...what can I say im speechless ...I guess I second Zack now that its between him and Allah. As for making dua for him? we are not allowed to make dua for a gaal? I mean out of mercy!! subhanalah probably not! Anyhow, there was a guy in my old neighborhood that used to try to convert muslims (he was a somali djiboutian)..whenever I see him with that outfit their priests wear WALAHI aad ayaan uga xumaan jiray and then one day at the park with ma younger sister I saw him with all his kids and they had the cross and I swear as soon as he saw me my mom and my lil sis he tried to cover their crosses and put it inside..im not sure why. I mean we would always see him but I cant explain y he did that that day (did the man deep down was guilty abt it.)..anyhow, may allah swt guide us what can i say dal gaalo baan kuso dhamanay waxkasta wa dhici karaan...just be grateful you are guided .. I am just wondering where we gonna be three generations down the road?!! that makes me shiver with fear!! salaam

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A sister I know married her daughter before she went off to university in another country. People were questioning her sanity. But the girl was obviously ready because she brought the guy, it would've been wrong for the parents to refuse. The big wedding demands are rediculous and unislamic and tend to make marriage difficult also without adding any substance to it. I find it ironic that it's harder for one to get married in the Muslim communities.. Everyone has a choice to get married whether it is as young as 17 or as old as 30. But, the truth remains that when a girl is 17 and she finds a guy close to her age in just few years he might just realize this is not what he wanted and walk out on her. I would not recommend marrying someone that young, and definitely would advice against parents who do that. Yet those who stretch it all the way to 30 again they also have a choice but that's again a bit too far and it wouldnt be something I consider to be the right thing. Like you said time is not gonna wait for us, so it would be good to get married somewhere around 25 26 as long as you know what you want, you have that career (im not saying career is a must but it makes life a whole lot easier when you have your income and you are also contributing to your family instead of just depending on the guy) the truth remains that anyone 100 iyo 100 aad dependent ku noqotid in uu caseka iska walayo lol (yacni we dont live in the 80s where a guy didnt mind being the breadwinner and thought of it as his responsibility most younger guys expect that you bring something to the table) so definitely have a job..and thats not where it ends I just think you need to be emotionally, physically ready to have kids and I dont think a 17 years old kid is ready for that. I'm in my early 20s and Im still in doubt if Im ready to have kids? let alone a 17 years old kid who just finished high school (bt then again im not speaking on behalf of 17 years old girls nor am i imposing my opinion on them many get married at that age and many get divorced and have issues and what not so im just sharing my opinion)..also you have to have a time for your kids? when you get at married 17 and you have a kid and you are still in school what does that exactly mean (that means you are not financially there to support child nor do you have the time and that would probably mean dumping ur kid at some public day care and Im generally sensitive abt the daycare issue let alone a public funded one)...what else did I wanted to talk about?..yeah just one more point, I dnt think 17 years old kid is mature enough to know what they want or even have an idea of how to raise a baby (especially one that was raised abroad one that has never seen hardships of life one that till they were 17 their parents were doing every lil thing for...)..so do not go around supporting the idea that 17 yrs old kids get married simply because you are afraid they are going to commit a zina? why not teach them to be responsible to study get their damn degree as much as any of you say education is not all that important life is hard and it is important.We dont live in a time where a high school diploma would get you a decent job..a degree is not even enough these days...and it is not just schooling that we are talking abt but by going to school you will also develop so many skills that will help you along the way (how to be punctual, responsible, how to deal with ppl etc)...Also, most teenagers that I know who got married are burden to their families? isnt enough that your parents raised you? they dnt need to worry abt u now and ur kids? either way your parents will worry abt u bt basically what I mean is being that extra burden whether its financially or helping u raise ur kids will take a toll on your parents.Especially somali parents who already at minimum raised 7 kids if not more..so it really pays off to get married at the right time. so bottom line im against ppl who rush to get married and am also against ppl who leave it till they turn 30... With all that been said..guurku wa calaf..so everyone will get married when allah says so and not a day after .. salaam

5 I personally dnt think it means the soul's yearning for God but rather that we are living by the way allah swt comanded us and staying away from what he prohibited and not indulging in what our soul desires ..and probably just comparing it to heaven where you get to do all that you desire without any xuduud (boundaries)..on the other hands a non believer does as he desires..so it would be prison in terms that we have to control our desires and realize that much more is waiting for us in the here after..With that been said we are all desiring for the day we meet our lord swt and especially if we worked for it the reward will be great inshallah tacaala And what our soul desires does not necessary mean we want to club or drink vodka (but you know we are all humans and im sure we wouldnt mind doing as we please) but now that we are muslims we know we have to pray 5 times a day, pay the zakat, fast ramadan etc (because we know in the here after we will be rewarded for it) and that we have to stay away from backbiting, doing zina, stealing etc. As Islam is a way of life (it tells us how to live our life in every way it doesnt leave anything in doubt) without it we would be sheeps doing as our soul desires? But the quran keeps us in check! No??! salaam

Nugul that is good to know sis. May Allah subhanahu wa tacaala improve your circumstance. Just remember to be grateful to allah swt cala kuli xaal ( in every circumstance) regardless of how hard it is , remember you are blessed in different way (ie you have ur senses (how many are blind, deaf, disabled) you have your house/apartment whatever meel aa ku noshahay oo nabad baa haysata , you have your husband who im sure will love u regardless of the situation if u talk to him and if he doesnt understand theres always that chance that ull find someone (a person is replaceable but Allah swt he is the one and only you should never lose your faith), you have your general health alhamdulilah, you are not in war torn country, you are not hungry, and I can go on and on about your blessings and you have so much more sister than what you are missing...inta ka maqan caruurtana ilaahay waxba kuma aha in uu kusiiyo but perhaps thats his test to you ilaahay qofwalba si buu u imtixaana by showing patience ilaahay will reward you and bless you even more..) take care hun salaam

patience yaa Zack lol..listen to the whole video. It is less than 10 minutes

Mashallah. This guy inspires me. I always wanted to invest in a school back home. Insha'Allah I will in the near future. This man is amazing, no words can describe his good efforts .. It said in the comments that he passed away. If that is the case allah yarhamhu. Wanaag buu shaqeestay. Ilaahay haka abaalmariyo ten fold. salaam