I deliberately chose not to use that adjective to describe myself. I am a Muslim.

Hmmm.. abtigiis I am sure there are a lot more other people practising gymnastics. There are people who killed other people in-between prayers; why did not you tell me this one was still waiting to be slaughtered before I made my wudu was one of the stories in Mogadishu. But on a serious note, I pray because I want to pray; I want to feel God. I am not going to stop that. I am not an atheist I just doubt God's existence. As a matter of fact I started reading the Quran again. I went to a nearby mosque yesterday for Maghrib (I do not like masajida somalida joogta. some women’s' attitude put me off long time ago, but I am not alone with this I heard other people saying similar things). So as I said in one of y earlier posts, I am struggling. To my knowledge in Islam jihadul nafsi is one of the greatest struggles in this life. It worries me hence my reason of writing here. I fear no-one and I can easily leave the religion and what comes with it, but that is not what I am wishing for. Am trying to restore faith and reason with myself. IS that wrong? May be. Yaa tahey is just a moran. I do not worry about that though as I have worked with a lot of morans with a mask. Her and some other posters here are quite happy to enjoy freedom and live amongst gaalo (qaato sadaqadooda) when at the same time they cannot tolerate a mere expression of doubts by a fellow Muslim. How do they know what inside my heart? jahli iga dheh. I wanted this thread to be deleted so I tried to private message the moderators here, Nur. But I am not sure whether my message went through or not. Meanwhile I received a quite harsh and unreasonable warning from Somalionline admins which says that Nomads had complained about me by trolling their threads with clannish and personal attacks......filling threads with personal information. I hope this stop before anyone gets hurt.

I just receieved a message saying that I trolled other people's threads with clanish and personal information. So the only thread that I wroote something remotely resamles clan was this one. Sorry for asking that.

General Duke, that was a joke? I have been to Puntland in 2009. Did you complain about me? I hope not.

...and by physical attraction I mean ehem...attraction.

the young woman has disappeared since then! every wondered who she was? or if it was she and not he? Anyhow, I would definetly say do not wast trying to get to know a man....you cannot know s.o until you live with the person. Maximum of two months should be enough if you talk to him on a regular basis. In my case I knew him only 2 weeks, and I did not have more surprises than those who knew each other longer. I wasted a lot of time with other people in the past, and at the end it did not work out. Check you main requirments xyz then work from there. btw I think not all ''educated'' ones are hard-working. Some of them are quite lazy and socially awkward ( mine excluded of course!!). I met man men who have never been to high education, but are so wise and so succesful. You can have phd by all means but can be self-centred at the same time with zero wisdom. Look for someone who has a lot of wisdom who you are also physically compatible with.

well.... your first comment did not bother me at all as I took it as a joke, but as you could have seen others qouted you and made comments. so should not have respond to that.... anyhow, no problem. let us move on.

yaa tahay;684400 wrote: i feel sorry for u wlahi aqoondarada kuhaaysa baan ka yaabanahay like u said: kan sanabka caabuda jiritaanka Alleh wuu aaminsanyahay adiga lakiin kii sanabka caabudiyay baad xitaa ka darantahay sababtoo ah maba aaminsanid jiritaanka Alleh marka waxaad utakaniso baan layaabanahay? whats the point of praying to Allah if u dont believe in His existence???? Hmmm.....am I even supposed to reply to this? I do not think so!

Oz;684405 wrote: If I may ask, what's wrong with your nose? Happy new year btw. Sanka runtee birbaa iga dagan, walee.

. This should have accounted for the matter of infertility problem. She seems selfish to me. She is complaining about a blessing that she is missing, but how many more people are born with disabilities? What have they done to deserve it? What about the millions who can't see, can't hear, can't speak? I think Nugul needs to look things from a wider and outward-looking perpective. But on the doubts about God, I don't think anybody can help her. Believers will tell her to suppress her doubts and she will be fine, non-believers will tell her it is part of human nature to question and question endlessly. I tend to agree with the latter, but I don't see that making one's life miserable. At one point, after the inqueries, one would have to define what he wants in life and what he thinks is the right path. Nugul may be on the road. All I can say is she should be patient and not rush to find solutions to all her questions in a moment or from a forum like this. Sida kale waan u soo duceeynaynaa gabadha oo ilaahay tubta toosan ha ku hagaajiyo. Hmmm....Abtigiis I would have responded to your post, if I did not think it was not my fault you came up with this. I brought this to mysefl because I wrote here in the first place, which are already regreted. If you scroll back you would notice that I wanted the whole thread to be deleted. I do not understand why I can have an ultrior motive. The moderator has so far ignored my request; posters ignored my request of writing here either so there is nothing I can do really here.

5;684371 wrote: You're not into God, we get it. 'We' as in the Muslims readers. We tried to help & adviced you to seek help elsewhere, but you seem to have made up your mind. Marka hada waxaan ku dhahooyaa lablabadaan naga joogi and ee stop bringing this topic into other threads ("Our imagine is important"). Aniga kollee un amaan waad iga heleysaa waxa postkaan ka dib eh, you seem to be a drama queen bent on seeking attention not a person genuinely seeking help & will be placed on the mental ignore list. You are just lacking manners. I am glad I do not have to deal with ********. Re. the other thread. I mentioned that because somebody had at a go in another thread undeservedly. So I said that out of precaution. btw you have serious reading comprehension.

Abtigiis;684381 wrote: I can't help Nugul on her problems. She is married girl, and the issues she said she have require divine intervention. I will make prayers for her. But if at one point her fear about a fretful husband who may go because of fertility issues happen, she can advise us of that, and can update her martial status on her SOL profile. That can open up a room for discussion and mitigation of the problem could be mutually discussed. But short of that, she is a marwo of someone, and we shall not bother her with uncalled for voluntary counselling. I am bit annoyed with you, abtigiis now. I thought your first post was a mere joke, but I now see how you are serious. Do not you fair to offend me unnecessarily, Mr Abtigiis? btw this threas was a just a joke. Glad some people got that. I could have said 'I am tried of wearing the same heard-scarf and hiding my noise constantly. Simple. Take it easy.

sheherazade;684349 wrote: LoL.:cool: If I am not mistaken, Sheherazade, is the moderator of this section. I find amusing that she responded to this thread, but entirely ignored my reqeust to delete the suaal'' thread. The reason remains misery! but I have nothing to say.

Ismalura, you are right. I am not talking about individual pride, but as a nation. I have to log out now, but explain my points tomarrow, insha allah. Take care.

Ismalura;684292 wrote: @Nugul first of all I don't see how your reaction to the film can qualify you as 'kufr' since it has nothing to do with faith or religion. We as Somalis have lost the privilege of keeping our dirty secrets and worrying about keeping our image. I agree that begging (waliba as a whole nation) takes away our dignity but these people are lacking the basic needs in life and we can't ignore them and philosophize their situation. There are underlying complicated interconnections of social, political, religious and economic factors in these whole 'Africa is starving' campaigns and we have a lot of work to do before we can mend our image. Re:the kufar. I just edited it. I was referring to other people in other thread who called me such a name or something like that. That made made me really angry. Sister, I understand what you are saying and certainly we should not ignore those people, but everything has a way to deal with. I believe images and succes go hand with hand. Showing that kind of film at UCL is not a way to fundraise for the somalis in dadaab, after all dadaab is under the UN control. Those people do not need food but security. I was there last year. I visited many places in Somalia and ended my journey in Kenya. I am very happy to make donations and certainly do. I have had some women in my house collecting monet That humbled me, and I am proud of them. But I think we should think twice before showing such films at certain places.

OK. I am pro-greater Somalia. I have all the flags in our home, but the Somali flag is the biggest one!

5;684278 wrote: OK, well there's no problem then. "There's no compulsion in religion". - Quran (surah 2, verse 256) Now move on and save us from future posts either here or in General section (look up your own "Our imagine is important" post for reference) or anywhere else dealing with your faith or lack of it*. well, it was not me who continued this thread; I felt the need to talk to people and heard their responses. secondly, you cannot control what I post and what I do not unless you are the moderator here. Third, who do you represent when you say 'we'? I suggest that you need to back off. You are just trying to get into my noise and that is not welcomed here. btw there is nothing wrong with my title 'oour image....' as I said it is my reaction ( my opinion). People are here to express there opinion. As I realised from your first post here you are quite judgmental person, just quit here and stop posting here please. This topic has run its course unless you want to get personal with me.

I would have been better if you replace the flag with the Somali flag so others would share the moment with you; we feel excluded!

Abtigiis;684213 wrote: War gabadhan Nugul has all the hallmarks of a budding female Abtigiis. Cabasho iyo calaacal badana. well...no-one is listening to me! So affkan ayaa furey. waa caadi dee....

Correction: Image. I’m personally sick and tired of the negative publicity on Somalia. I just saw in another thread that a flim on ‘’starving’’ Somalis has been shown at UCL? Are really those people mad? They are certainly lacking sophistication. Why put yourself in that position? Would the UCL students denote more than the Somalis in the UK can? Believe me, students do not denote more than 2 cents! so why reinforce this kind of image of us in their minds?? Btw I checked the video and did not see starving people, just displaced people. I was in Somalia in 2009 and people who are dying are the nomads and nobody cares about them. These kinds of charities are giving our country and people very negative image in the World. A positive attitude yields 50% of success in anything that we do. There are a lot of good things going on in somalia such as the football cup in Puntland. Waan arkey dad badan oo charity run-gareya are uneducated, but not only that they do not understand what can damage the repution of the nation. Next time, I hope they go to the mosques to ask for donation.

At least s.o else is feeling the same. I thought I was the only one with complaint!

To be honest with you, I have expereinced similar things long before I got married. It was not anything to do with my life, it just happened. I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. My prayer not being answered until now just reinforced my doubts no more no less. I do not have a requirement to my believe in God; I rather be a believer by choice, than a believer in need. Re:Prometheus's post. I think it is a response to me about Yaa tahey's reaction.

Prometheus, interesting post.

Yes, sad. But the reallity is that Somalis are starving themselves. With that blessed country, there is no need to starve in there. I went to Somalia in 2009, and really you would be amazed by what we have. You have to work hard to produce a result. Horta mahey ka sameyaan lacagta piracy-ga. Just of curiousity.

I do not like it. How can I change it? I want something like a camel or a building or a moving picture.