^ Baarakallah fiik Sheekh Kash. There you have it Ngonge.

^^ "Basal" meant "Onion" in that sentence. He knows what I meant. Apologies nevertheless.

G.Wakiillada S/land Oo Shahaado Sharaf Guddoonsiiyay Duuliye Sare Axmed Maxamed Oo Diyaaradii La Yidhi Hargeysa ku Duqee Jabuuti ka dejiyay 1988-kii (Muuqaalka Shirgudoonka Wakiillada Somaliland oo Shahaado Sharaf Gudoonsiinayaa Duuliye Sare Axmed Maxamed ) hadhwanaag 2008-06-24 (Hadhwanaagnews) Hargeysa(HWN):- Shir-guddoonka Golaha Wakiillada Somaliland Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Cabdillaahi (Cabdiraxmaan-cirro), Cabdi-casiis Maxamed Samaale iyo Baashe Maxamed Faarax, oo ay weheliyeen Mudanayaal ka tirsan labada Gole Baarlamaan Guurtida iyo Wakiillada, ayaa Shahaado Sharaf maanta guddoonsiiyay Duuliye Sare Axmed Maxamed Xasan, oo ahaa Duuliyihii 1988-kii lagu amray diyaaraduu waday inuu Hargeysa ku duqeeyo, isla markaana amarkaa geesmaray ee diyaaradu waday ka dejiyay Xeebta dalka Jabuuti, oo wakhtigan booqasho ku jooga dalka. Shahaado Sharaftan, oo loogu talagalay in loogu mahad-naqo Duuliye sare Axmed Maxamed Xasan, laguna guddoonsiiyay maanta Xafiiska Guddoomiyaha Wakiillada, ee Xarunta Baarlamaanka Somaliland ee Hargesan, isla markaana Xoghayaha Wakiillada Maxamed Xasan Kaahin (Kayse), ayaa sheegay in ay Shahaado sharaftani tahay tii ugu horeysay ee nooceeda oo kale ah, ee Golaha Wakiillada Somaliland cid guddoonsiiyo. Guddoomiyaha Golaha Wakiillada Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Cabdillaahi (Cabdiraxmaan-cirro), oo ay weheliyaan labaddiisa Guddoominye ku-xigeen Cabdi-casiis Samaale iyo Baashe Maxamed Faarax, iyo xubno Xildhibaano ah oo ka tirsan labada Gole Baarlamaan, ayaa saaka Shahaado Sharaftan Xafiiskiisa ku guddoonsiiyay Duuliye Axmed Maxamed Xasan, oo dhawaan Caasimadda Somaliland ee Hargeysa booqasho ku yimi, isla markaana Taariikhda dadka reer Somaliland kaga jira Baal Dahab ah, gaar ahaan dadka reer Hargeysa. Ugu horeyna Guddoomiyaha Wakiillada, oo hadal soo dhawayn ah ku qaabilay Duuliyaha ayaa yidhi, “Duuliye Axmed Maxamed Xasan, waa nin abaal wayn ku leh ummada reer Somaliland meel kasta oo ay joogto, gaar ahaan dadka reer Hargeysa, aad iyo aadna waanu kuug mahad-naqaynaa Axmedaw. Abaal-gudka aad Ummada Somaliland ku leedahayna waa mid ka wayn Shahaado la isu dhiibo, ee tani waxay muujinaysaa, oo aanu ku leenahay waad mahad-santahay. Laakiin, marka nala Ictiraafo ayaanu abaal-gud intan ka badan ku siin doonaa.” Ayuu yidhi Guddoomniyaha Wakiilladu. Isla markaana Guddoomiye Cabdiraxmaan-cirro, isaga oo la kaftamaya Duuliye Sare Axmed Maxamed Xasan, waxa uu yidhi, “Axmedaw, aan kaftama’e, berigii aanu Muqdisho ka shaqayn jiray, ee dagaaladii ka hor waxa nala odhan jiray reer Waqooyi, laakiin imika waxa nala yidhaahdaa reer Somaliland, adigana waxaanu kugu soo dhawaynaynaa Gacmo furan, waxaananu ku leenahay ku soo dhaway Somaliland iyo Hargeysadaad bad-baadisay.” Duuliye Sare Axmed Maxamed Xasan, ayaa isaguna munaasibadaa ka hadlay, isla markaana sheegay in aanu samaynin wax loogu mahad-naqo, balse uu gutay waajibaad isaga saarnaa, “Wallaahi anigu ma garanayo wax la iigu mahad-naqo oo aan sameeyay, balse waxa aan sameeyay waxa uu ahaa waajib aniga isaaran in aan shacabkayga bad-baadiyo.” Sidaa ayuu yidhi Axmed Maxamed Xasan. Waxaanu u mahad-naqay dadka reer Somaliland sida ay Magaaladda Hargeysa ugu soo dhaweeyeen Masuuliyiin iyo Shiciba, isaga oo arrintaa ka hadlaayana waxa uu yidhi Duuliye Axmed, “Aad iyo aad ayaan idiinku mahad-naqayaa hadaad tihiin reer Somaliland, sida aad ii soo dhawayseen Masuuliyiin iyo Shiciba, iyada oo soo dhawayntu ay ka mid tahay dhaqanka Soomaalida, gaar ahaan wallaalahayga reer Somaliland ay dheeryihiin Wallaalohooda Koonfureed. Farxad wayn baanay ii tahay in aan maanta Hargeysa oo sidan u qurux badan arko.” Ayuu yidhi Duuliye Axmed. Sidoo kale, Guddoomiye Ku-xigeenada 1aad iyo 2aad ee Golaha Wakiillada Somaliland, Cabdi-casiis Maxamed Samaale iyo Baashe Maxamed Faarax iyo Xildhibaan Siciid Cabdillaahi Yasir, oo ka tirsan Mudanayaasha Golaha Guurtida Somaliland, ayaa iyaguna hadalo soo dhawayn iyo mahad-naq isugu jiray ka jeediyay madashii Shahaado Sharafta lagu guddoonsiinayay Duule Axmed Maxamed Xasan, oo ay si weyn u soo ugu soo dhaweeyeen dalka Somaliland, gaar ahaana Caasimada Hargeysa. Ugu dambayntii, Guddoomiyaha Golaha Wakiillada Cabdiraxmaan-cirro, ayaa gacantiisa ka guddoonsiiyay Axmed Maxamed Xasan Shahaado Sharaftan ay Golaha Wakiilladu u sameeyeen, oo ay sheegeen in ay tahay Shahaado Sharaftii ugu horeysay ee nooceeda ah ee Golayaashii Wakiillada, ee ay Somaliland yeelato inay jirtay ay cid guddoonsiiyaan. Waxaana gacantiisa kaga guddoomay Duuliye Axmed Maxamed Xasan. Hadhwanaagnews.com Hargeysa/Somaliland.

Are the rest of us allowed to chip in?

Ngonge what you're suffering from is not "summer blues" but "kibir blues". An old bluesman named Leadbelly used to dedicate a song called Good Morning Blues to materially comfortable white man's (read basal-eater in this instance) problems and it goes like this... Well, good morning blues, blues how do you do Well, good morning blues, blues how do you do I'm doing all right well, good morning how are you. I couldn't sleep last night, I was turning from side to side Oh Lord, I was turning from side to side I wasn't sad, I was just dissatisfied. I couldn't sleep last night, you know the blues walking ‘round my bed, Oh Lord, the blues walking 'round my bed I went to eat my breakfast, the blues was in my bread. Well good morning blues, blues how do you do. Well, good morning blues, blues how do you do. I'm doing all right, well, good morning how are you.

^^ Take as many people as you can with you, preferably the UDUB leadership. They'll learn a lot from this man.

The reason readers choose to certain newspapers and magazines over others is because they generally agree with the publication's "editorial". That's why nomads copy and paste "editorials" from sites that represent their thinking (or lack of it). Trying retrospectively start an editorial or this attempt to find individuals to who can represent SOL's political section's contributors is an impossible task. Any EDITORIAL might be wrongly by perceived by some as a general political view of SOL members. If there will be an SOL EDITORIAL let it be accompanied with a suitable disclaimer. PS - Spare me the juvenile response "..this is a privately owned site ...."

If was the mayor of Hargeisa, Axmed Maxamed Xasan would be given freedom of the city. The sight and words of this man of honour must be a pain in the backside of many ex-f*qashman in Hargeisa.

Koora-Tuunshe caught with his pants down.

^^ "Government" and "Islam" have used by some nomads to further clannish ambitions, looks like "peace" is going to be the next tool.

Here's little encouragement... Buuran buuran cag balaadhan! Sing that on pounding the treadmill.

^^ Maybe the letter will be handed to the envoy after contribution and correction by SOL intellectuals like yourself. Go on, chip in.

^^ Easy now, Shirwa is a buddy of yours. Friendly fire mise saaxibadda xitaa kama naxddid? That letter has some very good points. That backed by genuine efforts and sincerely from the factions involved, then there's hope.

^^ Course we're.

Ngonge Is that my name between Rudy and Lander? You silly basal-eater! With the help of several dictionaries in my possession, i'm years ahead of this "mind your language" class. Stop the excuses and finish your assignment... Btw, as of now i'm joining the gang who take the piss at your pigeon somali.

^ I answered that question before it was asked. You haven't responded to the questions I've asked and you haven't responded to topic question. You might be joking about, but you're playing with fire. There's major anti-Hijab campaign going on and the danger is some of your remarks might be playing part in it. Go back check page 2 again. You can't believe what you wrote and agree with Rahima without contradicting yourself. Fact is the Somali "reer miiyi" who hold back girls because of "dhaqan" or "ceeb" don't make them wear Hijab either. Your contribution so far has been disappointing and at times came across as trivialising the Hijab, to put it mildly. That's a concerned brother's opinion.

No alcohol means fewer stars for Egypt luxury hotel 06/17/08 CAIRO (AFP) - Egyptian authorities are threatening to strip Cairo's luxury Grand Hyatt hotel of its five-star status after the owner stopped serving alcohol in the name of Islam. Last month, Abdel Aziz Ibrahim, a member of the Saudi royal family and owner of the coveted luxury property that sits on a tongue of land at the edge of the Nile, decided to get rid of all the alcohol in stock. The sheikh ordered the 2,500 bottles of alcoholic beverages at the hotel to be flushed down the toilets, without providing any notice to the American hotel chain managing the property, Hyatt International. "300,000 dollars went into the sewers after this decision which totally violates Egypt's hotel rules," said Fathi Nur, president of the Egyptian Hotel Association. Ibrahim was not available for comment when contacted by AFP, but Hyatt International, whose headquarters are in Chicago, said the two parties were currently in talks to resolve the issue. "There is no more alcohol, it was not our decision. We're negotiating now. Talks will last two or three weeks," Grand Hyatt spokeswoman Sally Khattab told AFP. For Nur, who met the Saudi sheikh last week, the situation is simple -- either the alcohol is put back as outlined in hotel regulations or the deal is off. "July 2 has been set as the deadline. If he keeps it up, the hotel will be dropped down to two stars and its rates will reflect that," Nur said. The decision to ban alcohol at such a popular destination has rocked Egypt's tourism industry, which handled 11.1 million tourists last year, employs 12 percent of the active population and accounts for 11.6 percent of the country's Gross National Product. For Egyptian authorities, protective of the lucrative industry which brings in 20 percent of foreign currency receipts, the spread of Islamism must stop at the doorstep of touristic establishments. Drinking alcohol is considered contrary to Islam but it is not banned by Egyptian law. So Egyptians who choose to can drink, although the percentage of Muslim drinkers is very small. Bars overwhelmingly cater to tourists. "It's really booming, we're crossing our fingers," Tourism Minister Zoheir Garranah said of the sector but insisted: "We have laws which regulate this industry." Hotel rules dictate that any hotel above two stars must serve alcohol. An owner is also not allowed to interfere in the running of affairs when there is a managing company. "It's like imposing chicken on the menu," said Nur, who owns the prestigious Nile Hilton hotel in central Cairo. "If he doesn't want to serve alcohol, it's his choice. If that doesn't comply with our regulations, he has to bear the consequences," said Garranah. Gulf tourists have been flocking to Egypt since the Al-Qaeda attacks of September 11, 2001, finding themselves more comfortable in Cairo than Paris or London let alone the United States. At least 400,000 tourists from Saudi Arabia hit the capital for some sun and fun, indifferent to the sale of alcohol, strictly banned at home. A new breed of "Islamic hotels" has popped up in some Gulf countries, catering for the observant Muslim traveller, such as Dubai-based Taj Palace or the Tamani apartment hotels. "It's not a bad idea, but I don't think there is a market for it in Egypt," said Nur. "There is no one left in the Hyatt restaurant at midday." Whether cruising the Nile or lazing on the Red Sea's sandy beaches, Europeans who make up two-thirds of Egypt's tourists, including 1.5 million Russians, consume 80 percent of Egypt's wine. For Sheikh Abdel Baqi of the Centre of Islamic Research at Cairo's Al-Azhar University, Sunni's Islam's main seat of learning, "the decision (to ban alcohol) is very good because at least it allows for the choice of an Islamic hotel. "It must be encouraged," he told AFP. "Alcohol lowers man to the level of animal." source

No alcohol means fewer stars for Egypt luxury hotel 06/17/08 CAIRO (AFP) - Egyptian authorities are threatening to strip Cairo's luxury Grand Hyatt hotel of its five-star status after the owner stopped serving alcohol in the name of Islam. Last month, Abdel Aziz Ibrahim, a member of the Saudi royal family and owner of the coveted luxury property that sits on a tongue of land at the edge of the Nile, decided to get rid of all the alcohol in stock. The sheikh ordered the 2,500 bottles of alcoholic beverages at the hotel to be flushed down the toilets, without providing any notice to the American hotel chain managing the property, Hyatt International. "300,000 dollars went into the sewers after this decision which totally violates Egypt's hotel rules," said Fathi Nur, president of the Egyptian Hotel Association. Ibrahim was not available for comment when contacted by AFP, but Hyatt International, whose headquarters are in Chicago, said the two parties were currently in talks to resolve the issue. "There is no more alcohol, it was not our decision. We're negotiating now. Talks will last two or three weeks," Grand Hyatt spokeswoman Sally Khattab told AFP. For Nur, who met the Saudi sheikh last week, the situation is simple -- either the alcohol is put back as outlined in hotel regulations or the deal is off. "July 2 has been set as the deadline. If he keeps it up, the hotel will be dropped down to two stars and its rates will reflect that," Nur said. The decision to ban alcohol at such a popular destination has rocked Egypt's tourism industry, which handled 11.1 million tourists last year, employs 12 percent of the active population and accounts for 11.6 percent of the country's Gross National Product. For Egyptian authorities, protective of the lucrative industry which brings in 20 percent of foreign currency receipts, the spread of Islamism must stop at the doorstep of touristic establishments. Drinking alcohol is considered contrary to Islam but it is not banned by Egyptian law. So Egyptians who choose to can drink, although the percentage of Muslim drinkers is very small. Bars overwhelmingly cater to tourists. "It's really booming, we're crossing our fingers," Tourism Minister Zoheir Garranah said of the sector but insisted: "We have laws which regulate this industry." Hotel rules dictate that any hotel above two stars must serve alcohol. An owner is also not allowed to interfere in the running of affairs when there is a managing company. "It's like imposing chicken on the menu," said Nur, who owns the prestigious Nile Hilton hotel in central Cairo. "If he doesn't want to serve alcohol, it's his choice. If that doesn't comply with our regulations, he has to bear the consequences," said Garranah. Gulf tourists have been flocking to Egypt since the Al-Qaeda attacks of September 11, 2001, finding themselves more comfortable in Cairo than Paris or London let alone the United States. At least 400,000 tourists from Saudi Arabia hit the capital for some sun and fun, indifferent to the sale of alcohol, strictly banned at home. A new breed of "Islamic hotels" has popped up in some Gulf countries, catering for the observant Muslim traveller, such as Dubai-based Taj Palace or the Tamani apartment hotels. "It's not a bad idea, but I don't think there is a market for it in Egypt," said Nur. "There is no one left in the Hyatt restaurant at midday." Whether cruising the Nile or lazing on the Red Sea's sandy beaches, Europeans who make up two-thirds of Egypt's tourists, including 1.5 million Russians, consume 80 percent of Egypt's wine. For Sheikh Abdel Baqi of the Centre of Islamic Research at Cairo's Al-Azhar University, Sunni's Islam's main seat of learning, "the decision (to ban alcohol) is very good because at least it allows for the choice of an Islamic hotel. "It must be encouraged," he told AFP. "Alcohol lowers man to the level of animal." source

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Maxa dhacay dee? Ciyaalku waligood ikhtiyaar may lahayn. Dharkooda ( xijaab iyo "spice girl" garan ba) waalidka ayaa ukeenay una galiyay. Little boys don't understand why they wear blue. Little girls don't know why they're in pink. All parental choice. Whatever the symbolism, they're are clueless. Originally posted by NGONGE: I don't force them into it nor do I encourage them (I still believe they're too young for the whole thing). At what age will you encourage then if they lose interest in Hijab? What age will you force them if you have to? The topic starter is talking about 7-9-year olds. Satan is whispering 4-5 year-olds in your ears. Your duty was to answer the question honestly and not to coax the natural devil's advocates among us. You're not the only one either. Satan reminds MMA of dhaqan garments only when Islamic dress code is at hand. He criticises only ladies Hijab or geezers in ankle-length trousers and nothing else. What else can it be?

I don't think the countdown starts till the official signing of the agreement. The cease fire is supposed to start when the Ethio declare the pull-out time table. tick tock ti...

^^ Shaydaanka iska naar.

Originally posted by -Lily-: The Sheik sounded sane which is more than you can say for most Somali politicians. I’m just disturbed by those who continue to call for fighting from their comfy screen desks, going about their every day tasks, their families safely living decent lives outside Somalia. When your children are being blown apart, regardless if it is by Resistance fighters or TFG or Ethiopian troops, you have little time to worry about ideals & principles. We should give whatever works a chance and worry about the details later on. Even if it has the slightest chance of success we should have hope. Somalis got into this mess by making decisions on that gambled basis. From the unification of Somalia and Somaliland, 1969 Coup and even the creation of the current TFG. To paraphrase one politician; TFG was "the hope" once. The TFG turned into one of the (if not THE) biggest disasters to fall on Mogadishu. I agree with you, the biggest difference this time round is one of the sides is led by someone who seems sincere and from a different background from the usual ex-colonial officials/soldiers turned politicians. The weight on his shoulders is huge and the proverbial knives seem to be out already. His opponent are not only the Ethio stooges but also within the "Alliance". Never mind the ones in Asmara, he would be wise to keep a closer eye on mole-faced power-hungry Sharif Xassan. That's just the start... Originally posted by Baashi: The warmongers want to see one side of the conflict defeated by any means necessary. Period! Warmongers are on both sides but you're only focusing on one. Where's the impartiality gone? If the Ethios fail to honour what their stooges signed up for and the "Alliance" does, who are the "warmongers" then? Btw, Sheekh Sharif talked not just about sufficient UN troops to replace the Ethios, but troops that have similar "culture" to Somalis.

Right or wrong, I believe Sheekh Sharif has the people's best interest at heart. It's regrettable he did not convince the rest of the "alliance" before setting off to Djibouti. Then again, he might not have made it to Djibouti if he tried too hard. Ethio troop withdrawal is a positive move - and doesn't matter if it's a face-saving pull-out. Sheekh Sharif believes the whole equation changes if there is no Ethio muscle behind the warlords let's hope he's right. If the pull-out does happen, the people might at least be able to come to the streets and demand what they want - be it Shariah or war crimes trials.

Where are SOL's Ethio double-d's? Come out now cyber collaborateurs, you can't let this one slide without spewing the stories you hear at the dinner table.

But she is good at adapting to her environment and political realities. when the Islamic courts were in power, she showed a religious side to conform to the dictates of the radical elements. Smart lady.