LOL @ ^^^

> > In Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the > > first time this happens, > > her mother must be in the room to witness the act. Who doesn't? :confused:

Yasmine: There’s also an air of hypocrisy in this article, which seems to imply that Somaliland can do no wrong. When Somaliland deports people of the 5th territory and literally hands them to Ethiopia as “terroristsâ€, it’s done in the name of fighting terror and ensuring national security. Where in the article does it say Mr.. Jama supports deportations of Somalis in the national interest? He may believe that but I can't see how you were able to detect the "hypocrisy in this article". I've read other articles where Mr. Jama has been very critical of SL and maybe "the hypocrisy" is all in your head. I think the political elite of Djibouti are the biggest hypocrite for preaching Somaliweyn theories to Somalilanders who have seen its positive and negative sides in practice. Yasmine: A fire lit beneath the threshold of Djibouti’s current government will be felt most intensely by its (poor) masses. There is no easy way of making a government “pay†for something politically and economically, while simultaneously assuring that it’s masses remain unaffected. I agree with you on that, and that's why I asked for a better solution if there is one. Turning the other chick is not an option. What you have to bear in mind is there is ten times more Somalis in "Region 5" than in Djibouti and over 30 million Muslims in Ethiopia. If we don't like hypocrisy, the solutions we come-up with must be better than Waryaa Dude's blockade. By the way, that Somali man who was being held hostage in Iraq… In his interview with the BBC, he said the kidnappers took him to an Islamic court following his capture and there a religious cleric issued a death sentence against him (it took place before the tapes were aired). So why did they not carry out the decree? What saved him? Well, presumably, it was the concession of his Kuwaiti employer to leave Iraq and the ‘other’ appeals. Besides the Kuwaiti company, 4 other parties/administrations appealed for his release… - Somalia - Somaliland - Eritrea, and - DJIBOUTI (not Ethiopia) He may have been released because of the 'appeals' but that does not mean we should believe the warlords really cared about that man's life. I think many politicians (including SL's) used the man's crisis as a publicity stunt and we should take everything they say with a pich of salt. Some of people who were saying the bombing and destruction of Hargeisa was OK at the beginning of the month were pleading for the the hostage's life at the end of it. With brothers like these...

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Snow how come the Confederate States of America are not taking part in the Olympics? Like the CSA, "Puntland" and "Somaliland" aren't taking part and won't ever be taking part, because they do not and will not exist as a seperate entity from the Somali Republic. Besides if I say so myself that man carrying the Somali calan represented us honorably. Horn the olympics are a sporting event and even Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) are taking part and sad but true, the honourable getleman carrying the flag was supposed to be a competitor.

Ngonge As long as you know how to ask where the John is, who bloody cares? I suggest you read the above posts and make-up your mind. Somali is a rich language but (like Discreet1 put it) "stagnant". The reason as I understand is, we've stopped adding new 'original' words or copying from other languages. Its easier for Somalis to communicate without using words copied from Arabic or english for example, compared to other African or European languages. You may consider english rich, but is it? I have my doubts when I see the phrases like "day before yesterday" "mother in-law" and "paternal uncle". And what percentage of it is copied from other languages, correct me if i'm wrong, 'blue' is taken from the French. Shoobaro Don't worry about it mate, its a bit difficult to discuss pronunciation using this media.

Originally posted by Sophist: What it comes down to is this: Milk is closer to C/lahi Yusuf than he is to Dr Galeydh.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Waar be glad that this time it was a human being calling himself Somali. Usually, it’s the cats that are called Somali! Thats Somali not Somalia. There are other things named Somali beside the cats like the warship HMS Somali destrored by Germans and the demolished Somali Club building in Liverpool. At least Somali Road(next to Asmara off Menelik RD ) in NW2 still there, but how long?

Originally posted by J11: I have seen a woman called Jordan Really? I don't know whats funnier the big grin or you remembering 'her'

I thought it was from bun (coffee beans) I'm not that sure anyways.

^^ I thought buni was brown.

Originally posted by SHOOBARO: Marka aad AF SOOMALIGA qoraysid waxaa aad u muhiim ah in aad shaqada/alphabets ka dhowrtid, maxaa yeelay af soomaliga waa AF CARABI oo kale oo hingaad buu leeyahay.Qoraalka uun baan ka AF TALYAANI yeeysan nahay. asxantu I hear you and I stand corrected but what about words like gudin and kaadi?

Mississipi Goddam!

Typical of SOL resposes, full of semantics but ignoring 'the messege' in the origianal post. Mr Jama says: "Although the people of Somaliland and Djibouti are brotherly and neighbourly, the government of Djibouti had always been hostile to us and worked against our interests and causes for no fault of our making." If there is anyone who disagrees with his 'solutions' lets hear the alternatives.

Originally posted by Snow the informer: i feel u Somalis are neither Aran nor African but that of a seperate race that needs to be isoladed. Can you please explain thatin detail, please?

Originally posted by Discreet1: Right off the bat i can think of 5 tech related english grammer that we dont have. Hard drive, processor, dvd, ram ..etc Somali language is stagnant P.s here's my question are other languages evolving or are they stagnant like ours. Do italians,germans,french etc have their original terms for the above gadgets ? I don't think they have original terms but (unlike Somali) I think their alphabets include letters P, V and Z that makes it easier to 'copy' from english and each other. Maybe we should start with up-dating the Somali alphabet and include the letters P, V and Z after all there are several countries that start with one of those letters. How can you copy DVD when the alphabet does not include V? I think i've heard a Somali word for TV but I don't know anyone who uses it apart from a maqaaxi quiz. How weird is it to have a Somali 'region' called Puntland when the alphabet does not include P? Another thing, is it me or are some words not served best by the Somali alphabet as it is. This might not be easy but try to follow the examples below: dadal (effort) didey didiin (refuse/refusal) I've seen some people pronounce dadal as it is (or maybe because of way its) written. Is it me or should the second da in dadal and the dii in didiin be written differently to indicate the 'proper' pronunciation. I hope that made sense, if not don't worry about it

by Ducaysane on Wednesday, 11 August 2004, 00:35:47 GMT] Roob aad u weyn ayaa magaaladii Burco ka da'ay Xalay maqribkii saacadu markay ahayd 5:50pm ayaa roob aad u weyn ayaa magaaladii Burco ka da'ay oo dunidii qaboojiyey. Roobkaas oo socday mudo 30 daqiiqo ah oo watay onkod iyo hilaacba aad iyo aad ayaa loogu farxay. Markii danbena wuxuu kasii hilaacayey Galbeedka iyo Koonfur-Bari ee Burco. ma jiraan wax wara oo weli laga hayo meelihii uu helay iyo meelihii aanu helin. Ilaa hadda maan maqal wax qasaare weyn ah oo roobkaasi geystey laakiin waxaa si xad dhaaf ah u soconaysey toggii halkaas oo baabuur (cars) badani ka bixi kari waayeen oo dhex fadhiisteen. Anigu waxaan arkay ilaa laba baabuur oo dhex yaalay toggaas. Source: Somalilandfuture. ................ Had to share the big news and great journalism

Originally posted by Seven of Nine: NGONGE... I've told you what ma problem is last nite..and u've not given me any viable solutions. I'm indeed disappointed Weger!

^^ Hear Hear!

People no need to go overboard attacking all Caribbeans/West Indians just because of Darcus Howe's programme (though I didn't see how bad it was). All communities have good and bad people and if Mr.Howe failed to see that, then we don't have to stoop to his level. I know a lot of hard-working , friendly and respectable people from the Caribbean who have no problems with Somalis but that would not make an interesting TV, would it?.

W Salaam S1 Bro I think its good news if this man was behind the articles and I hope others learn from him. Using a pseudonym to write such insulting newspaper columns is cowardly, especially when working for a body like the British Council which according to the Guardian supported a handbook "to prevent ignorant comments about Muslims being made in [the] national press". I agree its good to know what others really think but comparing Muslims to dogs is a step too far for a man in his position.

Sun 25 July, 2004 03:59 By Ed Harris DJIBOUTI (Reuters) - On a humid night, a stone's throw from Djibouti's thriving port, 22-year-old Helen is competing with other tactile young women at the half-lit Calypso Bar to catch the client's eye. Competition is plentiful, but in her revealing red top, Helen still makes a better living as a prostitute here than she would in her poverty stricken homeland. "I will return to Ethiopia when I am rich", she said, comparing the monthly 100,000 Djibouti Francs that she makes each month with the prospect of unemployment back home. In the Calypso's restaurant next door, Yussuf, a Djiboutian civil servant, is drinking a beer, watching Ethiopian satellite television and following the girls with his gaze. "They are poor! If you offer 5,000 to have sex without a condom, they will accept immediately," he said. Ethiopia, Djibouti's neighbour, faces an alarming spread of the HIV/AIDS pandemic with an estimated 1,000 people infected each day. About three million of Ethiopia's 67 million people are already infected, giving the Horn of Africa country one of the largest caseloads in the world. PROSTITUTES FUEL SPREAD While the estimated spread of HIV in Djibouti is still low, only 2.9 percent of adults aged 15 to 49 are infected, authorities are concerned that prostitutes arriving from Ethiopia could fuel an increase in what experts call the HIV rate of prevalence. "We cannot control HIV in Djibouti unless we control it in Ethiopia," said Dr Mohamed Ali Kamil, director of the Health Ministry's Prevention Department. "When prevalence is higher than one percent, we call it a generalised epidemic, and to see a young man dying of AIDS is very disturbing." In September 2003, Djibouti expelled 100,000 immigrants, most of them from Ethiopia working as labourers and sex workers. Officials say some of those have returned to work at night clubs and other place of entertainment. Ethiopia accounts for 60 percent of the trade that passes through Djibouti's booming port. The porous border between the two countries means that an estimated 40-50 percent of tuberculosis patients in Djibouti come from neighbouring countries in search of better treatment. To increase awareness, aid agencies such as Save the Children and UNICEF are distributing information about HIV/AIDS at the places where Ethiopians have the first contact with Djibouti, such as at the port and truck stops for Ethiopian drivers coming into the country. CONDOMS The rising concerns of the Djibouti government are more dramatically revealed in a 2002 ministry of health study which shows a much higher prevalence rate of 5.6 percent for people in the 15-29 age group, where sexual activity with multiple partners is at its highest and HIV infection numbers begin to increase exponentially. The survey also found out that for 50 percent of Djibouti men, their first sexual experience was with somebody other than a wife or fiancee. According to Aicha Ibrahim of the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) those who have sex rarely use condoms. "Use of the condom is not automatic, not systematic, even if they are available in pharmacies," Ibrahim said. About 90 percent of the HIV-Infected people in Djibouti, a small country of some 600,000 people, live in Djibouti District, in or near the capital, officials say. To curb the spread of the disease the government's strategy is to focus on prevention, said Kamil. In May 2003, the World Bank approved a $12 million grant to Djibouti to help change sexual behaviour. The funds have also helped to enable all the ministries to develop their own HIV/AIDS programme, coordinated, ultimately, by the prime minister. In addition the ministry of health distributes anti-AIDS drugs at the capital's Peltier Hospital, while the ministry of communication publishes lengthy articles and slogans to educate the people about the dangers of HIV/AIDS. Experts are also studying the impact of female genital mutilation on the spread of HIV/AIDS in Djibouti. Aid workers estimate that 95 percent of women in Djibouti have undergone female genital mutilation, significantly increasing the likelihood of HIV transmission. "The links between FGM and HIV have barely been researched," says Thomas Davin, Programme Officer at UNICEF, "But there is clear evidence of a link".

The controversy arose when a new columnist wrote a series of opinionated articles for the Daily Telegraph attacking Islam, under the name of Will Cummins. He wrote 'We must be allowed to criticise Islam', 'The Tories must confront Islam instead of kowtowing to it', and a third article titled 'Muslims are a threat to our way of life'. British Council suspends 'anti-Muslim' columnist for Telegraph ' '

I agree with you Che, when Iraqis were under sanctions few were prepared to take risks to relieve their suffering and anyone who brings supplies to the gringos occupiers is not that innocent. Somali tells of Iraq kidnap ordeal

Khaleej Times Online >> News >> FOCUS ON IRAQ Iraq group to release Somali hostage: Al-Jazeera (AFP) 2 August 2004 DOHA - A militant group in Iraq has decided to release a Somali hostage it is holding after his Kuwaiti employer said it would stop operations in Iraq, Al-Jazeera television reported on Monday. The Qatar-based news channel aired video footage on July 29 of the Somali taken captive by alleged Al Qaeda operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi’s Tawhid wa al-Jihad (Unification and Holy War) group. The hostage was identified as Ali Ahmad Mussa, a truck driver working in Iraq for a Kuwaiti company. The group threatened to behead him unless the firm pulled out of the country within 48 hours. Al-Jazeera said on Monday that Zarqawi’s group had “released a video saying it would free the Somali hostage as a token of appreciation for the stands of the Somali government and people toward Iraq and after the Kuwaiti company for which the hostage works undertook to stop operations in Iraq.†It showed footage of the captive with three hooded gunmen standing behind him. The Somali was taken hostage amid a spate of abductions in Iraq by insurgents fighting US-led forces. The insurgents have been particularly targeting truck drivers to put pressure on their companies to pull out of Iraq.

^^^We've seen what sort of language he has used against 'other' Muslims, lets see what he does to Fahd. Dr. Salafi The patients are waiting