Saxardiid Saladboy was a Deputy in the MoD as well.

Originally posted by Mutakalim: Be that as it may, still I believe that it is morally justfiable to "despise" persons , be they Africans, Arabs, Europeans, of a "intellectually inept" breed. What is an "intellectually inept" breed ?

SmithNwestern: Togane's new poem its electric and clanish Kuyee "its electric"! Brother, if you need someone to give electric shock therapy to your ego, I suggest you find a better person than Mr Togane.

^^ I did til Norf came along. At least I didn't accuse anyone of using funny stuff.

^^^ Now thats a Mblia Bel song.

^^ In the mean time, you are Saladboy's boy, right? Snow: Is his name spelled Rayal or Riyall? Was Mohammed Egal's name Igal? What does Abdiqassim in english translate to? I don't know. As long people know who you talking about, then fine. I don't even know whether my nick should be Ayub or Ayuub. Is it Sheek or Shaykh?

There is nothing shameful with men crying when they have lost a loved one. No, I don’t mean breaking up with your squeeze, I mean someone dying. "Don’t cry like a woman for what you would not defend like a man!" The Moorish king’s mother.

Horn Joking aside, Abdiqaasim was Riyaale's boss, wasn't he? From where I stand both men are innocent until proven otherwise. The difference is, I've got deep suspicions about Riyaale's past and would not endorse him as my candidate, but, most Landers I know choose to forgive and go on with their lives, whereas you are Saladboy's 'numero uno' supporter. Are the millions of mines planted in Somaliland not crimes? Were the thousands of bombs and shells dropped not criminal? If they were, then Abdiqaasim Salaad was Defence and Interior Minister at the time he surely bears some responsibilities.

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^^ Enjoyed that. Same music different language. BTW the Zanzibari band I mentioned I my previous post is Mila na Utamaduni aka Culture Musical Club. Here is GRAND ORCHESTRE TAARAB DE ZANZIBAR and check out some of these gems from SUDAN . JUMANNE marxabaa mwanangu-mambo mazuri hapa, hali yako kijana Some Mlendos are going to think thats the name of the song

http://www.insidesomaliland.blogtales.com/archives/000155.html

^^^loooooooool If thats not representing a country, I don't know what is. I just love them photos.

"avatar" avatar n 1. an incarnation of a Hindu diety in human or animal form, especially one of the incarnations of Vishnu such as Rama and Krishna 2. somebody who embodies, personifies, or is the manifestation of an idea or concept 3. a movable three-dimensional image that can be used to represent somebody in cyberspace, for example, an Internet user. Mine is none of the above but just a picture on the screen, picture on the screen, to paraphrase some mad man.

^^ She's looks OK lets hope she retires soon Viking the player (Wanderson de Paula Sabino Somalia) from his time at Feyenoord where he played for a couple of years. mojam this guy used to play for the F-side of Rotterdam the season before they won the UEFA cup. Waryaa Dude anyway I know this dude, he played for Feyenoord and he scored a lot of goals. After all that Norf comes and says: "He played for PSV (i think)" Do people have short memories or do they not read other posts?

Originally by Raula do you know that that guiter--KABAN as somalis refer to it-- is also used by the ZANZIBARIS/PEMBAS/TANZANIANS and many other traditional SWAHILI legends in along the East african coast-best example is the ZANZIBAR's legendary singer ZEIN and actually the sounds/beats of his songs sound like QARAMI indeed. I know sis, some of my fav Oud players include Sudanese named Abdel Gadir Salim and abdil Aziiz Mubaarak - who featured along with several other Oud-playing singers in last month's edition of Songlines magazine's 50 essential African albums. I've never listened to Zein but they could be the Zanzibari 'band' that made it in the Songlines' top 50. BTW I like your and Yasmine's choices.

^^^Something tells me that's not off your chest and not THE thing you have 'informed' knowledge about if you'd really "like to participate" in a tribunal and make it worthwhile. I could be wrong, but I doubt it If you've got information and evidence to convict Riyaale or anyone guilty of war crimes you have my blessings to go ahead. But how do you square that with the loyalty you've given to TNG Abdiqaasim who was Defence and Interior Minister when some most gruesome of the crimes were committed? They've got a word for this sort of behaviour brother! Inshallah that time will come, but it, unfortunately, is not today. Just tell us what you know, will you?

Originally posted by Salafi Online: This is what they call "khurooj" – going out in the way of Allah – meaning going out with the Jamaa’ah to various towns, cities, lands and even non-Muslim countries. The article you posted was based on someone's experiences which are different to mine and I suspect,to most people who live in non-Muslim countries. I've seen (Yemeni) Arabic/english-speaking Tablighis who are very knowledgeable in Qur'aan and SUNNAH. There some people who have 'little' knowledge among them, who try to correct and remind their brothers and sisters but I don't know about you but i'm certainly in no position to criticise. Like brothers Nur and Bilaal said, some of the best people I've ever seen in character, humility and other practices of Islam were Tablighis. You article claims they never talk about IIMAAN, in fact I'll always remember 'a talk' one on these brothers gave me which started with him asking me: "Kayf xaal" and I fine Al xamdu lillah and then he asked "kayf iimaan". I agree we should all educate ourselves more about ISLAM but I don't see anything wrong with Tablighis going out to 'Youth Centres' to remind young Muslim about faith and how and where to spend their valuable time. What you have to remember we all Muslims and if you see a TABLIGHI doing something wrong you have a duty to tell them in the same dignified manner you would if he was a 'Salafi'. The Sheikh who wrote the article above might struggle to find common ground or get the attention to start a discussion with the young people in the streets corners compared to young person whom the 'youths' consider 'cool'. If there is no scholar available then the ones doing the good work should be discouraged. There is no 'turf war' on spreading and reminding people about ISLAM and if Salafis can do a better job then its time to walk the walk. Originally posted by Salafi_Online: .., show from kitab and sunnah when we should remain silent about the people of innovation so i can be guided, but to say u don't agree with me just because its not good enough! brother ayub i plea to u for the sake of allah to show me where in the kitab and sunnah does it say to disobey the oppressing rulers, and by Allah if u show me the truth i will submit to it! Brother I see a contradiction between in the statement above. On one hand, you are firm and outspoken critic of Muslims you call 'innovators' and misguided' on the other you want us to 'obey' the Kings. You know what the Qur'aan says about people those who do not rule according to the way Allah (SWT)ordained and you know what the Prophet (SAW) said if we see someone doing wrong we should stop them or speak against. Feeling bad about someone doing something wrong is described as lowest of belief. What I want to ask you is; when should one start to disobey the Kings? If they asked you to torture or kill someone will you obey them? If they asked someone to bring them alcohol or prostitutes should they obey them? Where do you draw the line on obeying oppressive leaders? Originally posted by BiLaaL_07: 4.667: ------- Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: The Prophet said, "Convey (my teachings) to the people even if it were a single sentence, and tell others the stories of Bani Israel (which have been taught to you), for it is not sinful to do so. And whoever tells a lie on me intentionally, will surely take his place in the (Hell) Fire." - Bukhari In the above hadith from Bukhari, Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) commands us to convey the message. This command is for everyone. The prophet (p.b.u.h) orders us to convey the message even if it were a single statement. The prophet (p.b.u.h) also commands us to relate the stories of Bani Israel, and whoever says a lie about prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) will find his seat in the hell fire Salafi you said "and by Allah if u show me the truth i will submit to it!" and that statement makes very clear everyone is commanded to convey the message and not just the "Scholars and Mujtahids" like the article claims. I'm not saying knowledge is not important but we must teach each other the little we know. What you need to realise is the Tablighis i've seen concentrate on reminding Muslims (some with more knowledge than them) about Allah(swt). On the authority of Omar bin Al-Khattab, who said : I heard the messenger of Allah salla Allah u alihi wa sallam say : "Actions are but by intention and every man shall have but that which he intended........"

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I am 100% in agreement with a tribunal, and would hopefully like to participate in one in the future. If you feel like getting something off your chest or got the urge to turn 'supergrass', please be my guest and do it in SOL.

^^ Saxiib I agree with most things Salafi says even though I don't call myself a 'Salafi".Where we part is his constant attack on 'other' Muslim and his attempt to convince us to 'obey' the current 'Kings' of Arabia. Calling oneself Salafi does not buy a ticket to JANNAH and some of the most ignorant people i've met did call themselves 'Salafis'. I'll take the positive from Salafi Online and leave all the negative stuff and I suggest he should follow the advice given to him by Sister Rahima: ".... as much as it could be said that i am in line with the salafi manhaj, i believe you concentrate on it a bit too much, talk about that which more people can identify with- a very good dacwa tool which we should all employ. If the issue comes up, then fine, give it some attention, but why is it always the bulk of your message?"

Originally posted by Devil's Advocate: Before you get the wrong idea, I am going to Hong Kong because of its flourishing economy and active city life. No wrong ideas, I knew you meant business BTW, this summer, some parts of Grande Bretagne are booming too.

^^Thats what I was talking about too, what did think?

OG Moti Keep the charity work hush hush saxiib. I suggest you delete that.

D A Why do I believe you are THE ONE more likely to go to Hong Kong than 7 0f 9?

Originally posted by sahal:I'm still here i'm not out, my EYES are open Change your name to Salafi hunter

By Reuben Staines Staff Reporter At the height of the Cold War in the early 1960s, four young U.S. soldiers disappeared from their units in South Korea and crossed the heavily fortified Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) into North Korea. Two of the men later died of natural causes in the North. A third _ 64-year-old Charles Jenkins _ was allowed to leave Pyongyang last month to be reunited with his Japanese wife, an abductee who was released to her homeland two years earlier. The ailing Jenkins now may face U.S. court martial for desertion. However, the fate of the fourth man, Private James Dresnok, was uncertain until Monday when two British filmmakers announced they had found him living happily in the North Korean capital and plan to make a documentary about his life. Dresnok, who was 21 when he defected across the DMZ in August 1962, told the filmmakers he has enjoyed a simple life in the North. ``He hasn’t got any great yearning to get out of there,’’ said Nicholas Bonner, associate producer for the film, which will be called ``Crossing the Line.’’ During an interview in May, Dresnok agreed to appear in the documentary, saying he hoped it would help change negative perceptions of North Korea in the international media. ``They are human here,’’ the last surviving U.S. defector in the North told the filmmaker. ``The U.S. military teaches you they are evil communists, they have horns, they have fangs, they have red faces. I never believed such bullshit. Of course, there is an ideological difference, but that is the only difference.’’ Dresnok said he and the other American defectors had not been mistreated when they arrived in North Korea. ``We were under the supervision of the North Korean military. They took good care of us and they requested us to teach English to military personnel,’’ he explained. The 63-year-old said he originally did not want to stay in Pyongyang, preferring to continue on to the Soviet Union. ``Having crossed, after a few months I began thinking it over and decided to remain,’’ he said. Dresnok was identified along with Jenkins in the North Korean propaganda film ``Unsung Heroes’’ in 1996 but little else was known about his life after defecting. Bonner, who has already made two documentaries in the North along with director Daniel Gordon, said he believed viewers would be fascinated by the story of the U.S. soldiers who turned their backs on the West. He declined to comment on whether Dresnok was free to leave North Korea, saying it would take away from the impact of the documentary. Bonner said the film would attempt to present an unbiased account of the lives of Dresnok and the other U.S. defectors. ``We are certainly offering a different perspective. We are showing a part of Korean society never before shown,’’ he said. While the North Korean government had arranged the interview with Dresnok, Bonner said he was sure it had not stage-managed the defector’s comments. ``We have never been restricted from filming anything we have requested or anything that we have come across during shooting. They have never censored our tapes,’’ he told The Korea Times. Filming is scheduled to begin in September _ pending approval from Pyongyang _ and Bonner hopes to complete the documentary by next spring. ``A State of Mind,’’ a documentary Bonner and Gordon made about everyday life in the North, will screen at the Busan International Film Festival in October. rjs@koreatimes.co.kr