"Waxaan filayay waxa aanan hada ku arag waayo waxaan kala kulmay Hargeysa soo dhawayn aad u wanaagsan. Shalay waxaan la qadeeyey Madaxweyne Xigeenka Somaliland waxaan arkay dadkii oo aad ii soo dhawaynayaa. Laakiin markii hore dad baa igu lahaa waar meeshaas waa qabiilaystayaale maxaad ka doonaysaa. Waar meesha iskaga joog laakiin waxaan la kulmay in cid kastaaba ii istaagto oo aan dareemo qofkii dalkiisii yimid. Waad arkaysay Fagadhe iyo raggii nin kastaaba salaan buu iila kacay." Che I think the welcome Mr. Naaji got in Hargeisa is enough and giving him play-time on radio would've looked like an over-kill. Btw, the man is multi-talanted, and he has been in the region before and does not need a 'crash course' in standard/textbook Somali. lol@Fyr-Kanten

Ms Dawoco the 'Holland' bit was meant for a particular 'rude boy'. As if I'd say something like that about someone of your class and stature. Apologies nevertheless and i'm pleased you liked the poem

^^ I never thought you'd ever let the mask slip and expose this side of you. :rolleyes:

^^I thought you guys hit the rock bottom, can you sink any lower? :cool:

^^Don't believe the lies and hype coming the enemies of the Somaliland Republic. Somaliland diidoow dilaac!

Ethiopia denies undermining Somali peace talks, threatens to arrest warlords

quote: Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Suldanka, you are not the only ones who built houses, telephone lines, schools and universities without a penny. The people of Puntland [same size as Somaliland]did this, those in Jowhar, Bledweyne did this and most of the decent hard working people of Mogadishu did this. ^^Says a man who's 'parliament' sits in foreign country and controlled by Kenyans and Ethios. A man waiting for foreing troops to come and restore peace and dignity. If were you I would be hanging my head in shame.

^^Hear Hear! Smith This week you seem to be more humble than your usual pompous self - especially when Adeero Morgan's malitia was matching towards Kismaayo. From here, you seem to nodding to every comment Liqaaye makes and your gestures seem a wee bit exaggerated. Another week of spanking down there and who knows, maybe goood old Smith will be shouting "Barre Hiraale for President!". WD Are you talking about the little old men who are kicking lumps out of each other in the Nairobi 'parliament'? Please don't tell me it was your 'MP' who got his lights turned off with a left hook. How dare compare my Suldaan to these morons?

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Calanside notes that Somalia was always a clan-based society, with fights over water and land. But the problem of clans spiralled out of control after independence in 1960. The Italian colonialists favoured ‘pro-Italians’ over nationalists when it came to handing over the administration at independence, and this started creating deep divisions. The problem worsened after Muhammad Siyad Barre came to power in a 1969 coup, and injustice and nepotism became the order of the day, says Calanside. Some people will be very offended by that. :cool:

Hornafrique: Besides no one is sitting there for a certain region or "state". All participants are based on clan, and the clans of waqoyi galbeed are represented. Would you like to tell us who represents your clan then? Is it Jaamac Barre or Barre Hiiraale? Matee, I do not recognise the so-called 'peace process' in another foreign country and my clan's Sultaan does not recognise it either and how can you even claim "clans of waqoyi galbeed are represented" .? How can people from London, chosen by non-Somalis in Kenya, be representetives of people Somaliland? I'M not surprised by your claims, after all, aren't you the person who you to make same rubbish claims about the Arta faction? SmithNwestern Liqiya, bravo, bravo SmithNwestern Liqiye, well said brother. A few knocks in the Jubbada Hoose region and someone seem to be slightly overwhemled by the re-apprearence of Liqaaye. Whats with all this "well said" "Liqaya bravo" "Thats the spot Liqaye"

^^ Nice to see again stranger. Of all things, the games have been delayed by rains. Click the "8:00PM Warka dalka, faalada warka, sheeko gaaban " for last evening's news. Radio Hargeisa Let it rain I say. Alxamdulillah! BTW, MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN.

^^ Nice to see again stranger. Of all things, the games have been delayed by rains. Click the "8:00PM Warka dalka, faalada warka, sheeko gaaban " for last evening's news. Radio Hargeisa Let it rain I say. Alxamdulillah! BTW, MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN.

This one is dedicated to all putting up with the very hard to please and over-staying 'guests' - usually from Holland - and their 'habits'. The guest on the first day, Give him rice and coconut heart Served in the shell, To welcome the guest. The guest on the second day, Give milk and butter As affection grows Show more to the guest. The guest on the third day, There is nothing in the house But three kibaba, Cook them and eat them with the guest. The guest on the fourth day, Give him a *** to use, On his return, take leave of him, And let him go home. The guest on on the fifth day Pricks like a needle. The house full of whispering. All against the guest. The house on the sixth day - Go into the corners To hide when you eat, From that guest. The guest on the seventh day Is no guest but a pest. If the thatch catches fire Blame it on the guest. The guest on the eighth day - "Come in, let us pat" When he goes out side - Goodbye, go along, guest." The guest on the ninth day - "Go, man go, Do not come back, Do not return, guest". The guest on the tenth day - With blows and kicks, Get rid of no one So long as you are rid of the guest. Mtoro bin Mwinyi Bakari ( The Customs of the Swahili People)

EU Requires Asks Turkey to Scrap Anti-Adultery Law TURKEY, September 13, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) The European Commission has taken Turkey to task over a proposed law that would see extramarital affairs punishable by jail. The commission, which is to recommend on October 6 whether the EU should consider Turkey's bid to join the EU, said the anti-adultery law is problematic. "This could trigger confusion and damage the perception in the European Union of Turkey's reform efforts," European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori told reporters. EU Commissioners from the Netherlands, which allows homosexual 'marriage', and Austria are opposing Turkey's entrance into the EU. Austrian Foreign Minister Benita Ferrero-Waldner said the anti-adultery legislation, "is certainly something that will have to be dealt with." EU warns Ankara against outlawing adultery The Turkish parliament is due to debate the amendments to the Penal Code on Tuesday, with the proposal to make adultery a criminal offence attracting the most attention. September 14 - The Turkish government has been warned that making adultery a crime could harm Turkey’s chances of being given a date to open accession talks with the European Union. The proposal to make adultery a criminal offence is among a series of amendments to the Turkish Penal Code that have been drafted by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) government. However, while most of the amendments to the code, originally drafted in 1926, are designed to bring Turkish laws into line with those of the EU as part of Turkey’s bid to meet the bloc’s membership requirements, the plan to outlaw adultery has come under fire. Making adultery a criminal offence would cause problems for Turkey in its bid for EU membership, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw warned Monday “It is however the case that if this proposal in respect of adultery were to become firmly fixed in law then that would create difficulties for Turkey,†Straw said. The plan to criminalise adultery has also been criticised by Spain’s Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos and Guenter Verheugen, the EU’s commissioner responsible for the bloc’s enlargement process. While in Turkey last week on a visit to see how far Turkey had progressed in implementing reforms to bring its laws and regulations into line with those of the EU, Verheugen described the proposal to make adultery a crime as “a joke.†The Turkish government has defended its proposal, saying that declaring adultery illegal reflects the values and wishes of Turkish society.

Thanks for that LST Though angry to be referred to as “the guilty party†without a shred of evidence, Hassan has drawn consolation and energy from the strong backing and unity shown by a wide spectrum of journalists and civic groups. This break with the past has made him, he said, “want to be a symbol of the determination to fight for justice.†Both Xassan and Rakiya have my support and gratitude.

^^^ I agree with most of your last paragraph especially the "gradual step-by-step reintroduction of Islam as a viable political system",. But, if we want an "Islamic system", the right place to start building that is at schools. The school curriculums must include at least the basic knowledge of what is meant by "rule by what Allah sent down". The trouble is; how can we 'convince' politicians who have no plan or interest to do that? We can at least ask and pressure the ones who visit these parts of the worlds about it, is there more we can do? Maybe sponsoring islamic schools? BTW, some wadaads consider to "impose Islam through the ballot" as xaraam.

^^^Don't worry about good ol Hornafrique, he can never accept someone who is not from that part of the world can have your un-biased views when it comes to Somaliland policts. Btw, congratulations to President Col. Yusuf, long may he reign over yous.

Smith I only asked for your expert opinion and if I attacked you in any way, shape or form, i'm sure the Admin would've deleted/edited my post because its against the SOL golden rules. You should be counting your blessings the Admins did not notice your breach of the FLOODING rule especially in the middle of hurricane season As for commenting on the article, I thought it just another partisan one from an individual who was clearly pro-opposition . I welcome the article and all political pressure on the current Somaliland administration because I believe its one way to keep the government on its toes. I know its hard for someone brought up only knowing the dictatorial iron fist style of Col. Yusuf to understand, but its very its common to find some pro-opposition Somalilander with views like that and I, for one , welcome it. One day you will understand, I hope.

^^^What took you so looooong to put your cards on the table. At last we know you're Somali Originally posted by Saxardiid: quote:He paid rich tributes to the President, His Highness Shaikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, and hailed his wisdom and excellent political stability that would serve as an example for Somalia to emulate. Af waxcunay xishoo baa layiri

Originally posted by Nayruus: No man’s gun is made of plastic. Saxiib we're not only peace loving but aslo pacifists whoe admire Gandhi and Dr King. If you come with your real guns, tanks, airforce and mercenaries; we will be here singing: "we shall overcome, we shall overcome, we shall overcoooome soooome daay" Originally posted by Xoogsade: Are you a Muslim marka Hore? Patriot, we're all anxiously waiting for the answer

Four months after the US failed to pacify Falluja, religious laws rule the stronghold of Iraq's insurgency Rory McCarthy in Baghdad Saturday September 11, 2004 The Guardian Islamic militants in Iraq are strengthening their grip on the insurgent stronghold of Falluja, four months after American commanders struck a ceasefire deal that was supposed to pacify the city and return it to government control, residents said yesterday. Militants have imposed religious law on communities, issuing edicts and executing those accused of spying and even stealing. US patrols no longer enter the city, 40 miles west of Baghdad, and the Falluja Brigade, a government force established in May to maintain security, was disbanded this week. Large areas of Falluja are now entirely under the control of the insurgents, while other parts are patrolled by police units that sympathise with the militants. A mujahideen shura (or council) has been established, bringing together about 20 leaders from various insurgent groups, often with different aims and tactics. Together, they organise guerrilla tactics against US troops and enforce a hardline Islamic rule of law. "Nobody can say they are controlling Falluja," said Muhammad Hassan al-Balwa, a businessman who was the head of the city council until he resigned when the US launched a major military operation against Falluja in April. "There are many sectors of power and there is nothing in common between their aims and their slogans." "I told the Americans, 'If the people do not see any change then the resistance will become bigger and stronger'." He said the insurgents were divided into three groups: the largest comprises Islamist militants, some following an extremely hardline vision similar to the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan, in which they seek to establish an Islamist caliphate, a second group contains former Ba'ath party members, particularly from the military and elite security forces, and the third is made up of tribal nationalists fighting military occupation. All three agree they want the US military to withdraw from Iraq, but their visions of the country after occupation are unclear and often at odds with each other. For the past year, the city has been at the centre of the Sunni Muslim insurgency that has shaken the US military occupation. More than 600 Iraqis were killed when US troops launched a three-week offensive there in April, but this failed to curb the militancy. "Falluja is sitting on a volcano, and unless someone tries to release the pressure from the inside it will explode," said Dr Balwa. Earlier this week, seven US marines and three Iraqi national guard soldiers were killed just outside Falluja when their convoy was attacked by a car bomber. It was the heaviest death toll in a single attack for months. For three consecutive days this week, the US military has bombed houses in Falluja, targeting what it describes as safe houses linked to the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is blamed for many of the car bombings and assassinations of the past year. But at the same time, the insurgency has imposed its own law within its community. Several people have been executed for stealing and robbery, said Dr Balwa. Edicts have been issued against theft and car-jacking. For some Iraqis, security has improved. But those seen as collaborators or spies have been punished with kidnapping and execution. On Wednesday, Bassem Muhammad Munajed, the deputy governor of al-Anbar province, which includes Falluja, was kidnapped from his home by masked gunmen. Last month, the militants forced the provincial governor, Abdul Karim Birjis, into a humiliating resignation after his three sons were kidnapped. Days later, US marines arrested the provincial police chief, Ja'adan Muhammad Alwan, who had defected under threat to the insurgency. US military officials said that he was suspected of corruption and possible links to kidnapping and murder. The militants also recently executed Colonel Suleiman Hamad Ifaikhan, the head of the 506 Brigade of the Iraqi national guard, which was based in Falluja. Some observers say the city has become a focal point for foreign anti-American fighters coming to Iraq from states such as Syria and Saudi Arabia. "Half the people of Falluja don't like these people being there," said Sadeq al-Moussawi, a member of the Monarchy party, which has strong connections with local tribes. "If we want to finish this off, we need intelligence to give us information about each house they use, but the intelligence men they use are from Saddam's regime and we can't trust them." Other towns have gone the same way as Falluja. US troops no longer patrol in Ramadi, 20 miles to the west, nor in Tal Afar, a small town just west of Mosul in the north. US troops entered Samarra, just north of Baghdad, only on Thursday for the first time in weeks after an agreement with local officials. To accompany their growing position of strength, Falluja's militants have released a macabre video disc, sold in markets in Falluja and Baghdad, showing prominent captives of the insurgents. One scene shows the sobbing resignation of the provincial governor, Mr Birjis. However, the most disturbing scene, presented by a hardline group said to be run by Mr Zarqawi, shows the execution of an Egyptian man who gives his name as Muhammad Fauzi Abdul Aíal Mutwali. He admits spying for the Americans in Falluja and says he was given 45 computer chips that he was told to place in target houses to direct US air strikes. For each chip planted, he was paid $150 (£83). Three men stand behind the Egyptian - two armed with Kalashnikovs and the third with a knife. "Blessings and peace upon he who implements the judgment by the sword," says the third man. "We are on top of the shoulders of the unclean and the spy traitors, the police and the soldiers who are on the convoy of Satan. Here today we are taking the right of God by slaughtering this criminal." He then leans forward and, with the words "God is greatest", beheads the Egyptian, placing his severed head on his slumped body.

A European commissioner set off a furious row yesterday after warning that Europe's Christian civilisation risked being overrun by Islam. Fritz Bolkestein, the single market commissioner and a former leader of the Dutch liberals, said the European Union would "implode" in its current form if 70 million Turkish Muslims were allowed to join. He predicted that Turkish accession would overwhelm the fragile system and finish off any lingering dreams of a fully-integrated European superstate. In a speech at Leiden University, he compared the EU to the late Austrian-Hungarian empire, which took so many different peoples on board in such a haphazard fashion that it eventually became ungovernable. Calling demography the "mother of politics", he said that while America had the youth and dynamism to remain the world's only superpower, and China was the rising economic power, Europe's destiny was to be "Islamised". In comments designed to provoke fury in Ankara, he quoted the British author Bernard Lewis warning that Europe would become an extension of North Africa and the Middle East by the end of the century. The carefully-crafted speech caused consternation in Brussels where the commission is putting the finishing touches to a report due early next month that is expected to back Turkish accession. The commission played down Mr Bolkestein's remarks, emphasising that he was speaking in a personal capacity. But he was immediately disowned by allies in parliament. Andrew Duff, a Liberal MEP, said: "We are not slaves to prejudice or historical nostalgia. It is most unfortunate that a single commissioner has pre-empted the commission's report on Turkey in this way.' The final decision on Turkey rests with EU leaders at a Brussels summit in December. If they give the go-ahead for the start of accession talks, it sets in motion a process that becomes almost unstoppable. Turkey would join within 10 years or so, unless blocked by referendums in EU member states. The "Turkish Question" has mushroomed into an explosive issue in France and Germany. Public opinion in both countries has deep misgivings about further eastward expansion, fearing a flood of immigrants and a huge diversion of EU funds to the impoverished hinterland of Anatolia. "After the accession of Turkey, the EU will not be able to continue its current agriculture and regional policies. Europe would implode," said Mr Bolkestein. His warning comes as Ankara's Islamic government presses ahead with criminalising adultery. Feminist groups in Europe and Turkey have reacted with horror, claiming that the "reactionary" law is aimed against women but the row highlights the gulf between the cultural values of urban Europe and rural Turkey. The European enlargement commissioner, Gunther Verheugen, appears determined to go ahead with a broadly positive verdict on Oct 6, concluding that Turkey has met the basic tests of a free market economy and pluralist democracy under the rule of law. He said Turkey had made "impressive progress" and that its accession had reached "critical mass". The authorities have pushed through drastic reforms to the legal code and constitution during the past three years to keep Brussels happy, as well as restoring Kurdish language rights and abolishing the death penalty. A "wise men's report", issued by a team of Europe's elder statesmen this week, said it would be unjust to deny Turkey its rightful place after waiting patiently as the ex-communist states of Eastern Europe jumped the queue. They said Turkey had shown its "European vocation" and enjoyed a "firmly-rooted" secular tradition that was quite unlike the rest of the Muslim world. Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, called for an emphatic endorsement of Turkey. "People need to think very carefully about the strategic implications of pushing Turkey away, of pushing Turkey to the east and to the south," he said in Prague.

^^^lol @ it is your house that needs to be in order people. Smith what do you suggest we do, we need help with this one bro?!

^^ Silly me for thinking he meant people like you. Xoogsade I felt betrayed as a somali person by their Move to be Honest. It was like, How can they do this to us? All that emotion from a Kid wallahi who didn't even graduate from High school. Xoogsade your 'emotions' are understandable, but another kid from the other side might have been thinking the same thing: "How can they do this to us?". Something went seriously wrong the question is what was it, and can we let it not happened again?

Baashi: At issue is whether Islamic country ravaged by civil war and surrounded by traditional enemies should be dismembered on the basis of what European power colonized what corner of this now independent but chaotic country . Baashi The Union of the two countries turned into one chaotic country and thats the basis of the division. We tried the 'unity' but it has failed and failed badly. "It was that regime" I hear you say. Yes it was that 'Scientific Socialist' Regime which you are now trying to sell under the guise: '4.5 formula'. The very same wine and not even a different bottle just a new label. The Generals are to be called MP's and everything else will sort itself out, you hope, fingers crossed. By "surrounded by traditional enemies" do you mean IGAD countries -the people who came up with the plan you are now to trying convince Somalilanders to accept? OR maybe by 'traditional' you are returning to Somaliweyn rhetoric and mean all the non-Somalis who live around us? Simple fact is Somaliland is working and I know for a fact what the people in Mbagathi are all about and I think we are at the point where we used to say 'Somalia should sort itself out first'. Baashi: By the way, as of tactical strategy, would you go after what you can accomplish and within your reach or would you rather declare a war in which you can’t win and draw a fire from every conceivable corner. Somaliland IS exactly about that strategy . You know damn well that Islamists’ struggle is within national boundries because of the imposition of international order in the way of independent states and seemingly overwhelming power in the hands of Western states that have power to sanction the freedom-fighters and declare their country rogue nation at will. Saxiib this not about force or war, the way forward is by agreements like the example I gave earlier about Aqils and traditional leaders. Axamdulillah most of Somaliland has been multi-qabiil and peaceful and even Puntland's civil war was sorted with the involvement of one these clan leaders. Rather than to keep calling all the neighbouring non-Somalis Muslims enemies, maybe the way forward is to at least involve their 'traditional elders' with ours, but that comes after ALL Somalis sorted their 'backyards' first, perhaps using the same traditional method rather than a grand 'peace conference' organised and controlled by the real enemies.