Hi guys:) I joined this forum but somehow didn't get a chance to post. I couldn't find the introduction area this is why I posted this here.

And there you've proved your innocence. google NGONGE + Somaliaonline , Him changing usrName is like Shakespeare changing name to Bush.

Hello Dahir, Asking who is Ngonge on SOL is like asking who is Mandela in Suwetto.

The Chinese are moving in.

Thanks for the shah@Holac

Meter by Meter , Helmet by Helmet could of be equivoated upon by our fellow Puntlanders, neither are we in the somme , nor are the Puntlanders in the trenches , and my favorite president of Puntland is far more formidable than Keiser whilhem intellecually atleast. I'd to perfer something inline with, Well after Well,Barrack after Barrack in the Dervish lands, but never will you be able to berrage Garowe, for there ends the saga of the trajectory-Puntland whose phony constitution encapsulated an out of reach and somehow hostile-to-the-clan-brotherhood doctrine areas , but here begins the real-King kong Puntland-of the Royal-dynasty, whose military uses real Nails as Toothpicks. A side note, How has Puntland could of have failed the Dervish clan , so much, they jumped the secession ship? Has Somaliland's stick-carrot- policy towards the Derish clan paid-off? What am i missing here?

i was a member of this group in the late 2000s. at that time the majority of members were from Somaliland. if people from Somalia want to establish their own group, perhaps they ought to called it the Italian-Somalia Society.

Thanks @Holac @DahireetoI am a girl

Finally Aurora. Welcome.

GALBEEDI is an extremely valuable contributor, you should consider running for office, KEEP it coming bro, and we should catch up for chat/coffee next time I am in Alberta.

I do not blame Galbeedi for trying not to be associated with this lot.

Welcome Aurora. Are you a girl?

The next aspect of your logic means that a Welayita (current PM from south Ethiopia), an Afar or Somali can never expect to be prime minister no matter if he/she can "walk on water". A French cannot be prime minister of Canada, a Sikh can never be PM of India etc. Since you focused only on the Tigray, it clouded your thinking. I don't expect you to think that way if I asked you to formulate a mechanism of how Ethiopians should organize their politics and state. "The Amhara are four times larger than Tigray" galbeedi. This is true and even more. The Amhara are 10 hundred times more than Tigray on internet, facebook, past governments etc. Again your thinking and logic got clouded. Let me give you example of what you might be more familiar, Somalis in Ethiopia. Lets say tribes since the Somali is one Ethnic. By population you are aware that some Somali clans or tribes maybe 10 villages and others maybe 1/3 of the region and others maybe a city in the region. Amhara is both a region and Ethnic, there are a lot more ethnics in the region that you are ignoring, one of them which you mght know is Agew. It does not have part in the internet world, since the people were excluded in past Ethiopia and many forced to speak Amharic to the detriment of their langugae, but on the ground is something else. There are a lot more Ethnics in Amhara region and also the Amhara ethnic itself has tribes like anyone else. The Amhara for example have no idea that different tribes in Somali kilil played major roles at many critical times, regardless of number of population. When times are critical or significant never underestimate people. Internet can bring destruction of cultures and peoples, but it hurts more those who are in it than those outside. The Amhara ethnic is more than 4 times than Tigray on the internet which is true if that is where you base your understanding. Then in that case the Tigray should not have defeated a million man army of Amhara. Things are not the way they look on the internet.

Guys, I am one of those who will admit if I made mistake. I have no intention to mislead people if facts point to other direction. Also, As one of those who believe in the last day " Yomul Qiyaama", I will never willfully lie or ignore facts on purpose. No doubt there might have been some " Hastiness" in my part , yet, I just conveyed what the messenger said. Also I can understand your alarms because, as we speak warlord Biixi is holding un emergency meeting with chairman Cirro and Faysal. This thread is probably the one what Faisal Waraabe is quoting, and there is " Kakacaay" in Hargeisa today. I can understand if Biixi is panicking so does the diaspora boys including those in SOL. Who knows, my hasty posted thread might have helped the Jeegaan rethink it's tribal strategy and listen to others. One thing I definitely possess is information , both past and future, and I releasing only small amount of it one at the time. Faysal Waraabe probably owes me something since Biixi called him because of this thread. Any way, The crimes of the RRU are well documented throughout Somaliland. This masked gunmen are not supposed to interfere land disputes, grievances of people, or someone saying something to the dear leader. My own family in Borama has been raided four in the morning because of land disputes with vice president Zaylici. They beet men , women and everyone in the house, and later they took them to jail. After a day or two, one of the police officers said " Waar dadkan maxaa lagu haysataa, Ma Zaylici ayey ka hadleen'. These were the same masked gunmen who raided the home of " Nimcaan Hillac" a local singer who came to visit his mom . since he went to Mogadishu and sang there, they wanted to put him in jail for months until he denounces Somalia. About a year or so ago, when I interviewed C/raxman Baadiyow about the prospect of the new Somali government, I debated with Oodweyne, and I offered a glimpse of what would happen in the future in Somaliland. Some of you could dig the archives to see that prediction which almost came to fruition. Usually, I am wrong at predicting about future political events, but on this one , it seems I probably nailed. Our resident lady Barwaaqo even said , " Acuudu Billaa waa hbaar", yet it was a possibility. I said: The Somaliland opposition has huge support among the people , but the corrupt Kulmiye will steal the election. After that people from Awdal, South Hargeisa, Togdheer, Sool and Sanaag will reject that leader, and might only rule Hargeisa and Awdal by force. I mentioned that since the Guurti is led by " Ma Naxe " Saleebaan Gaal , no one will be able to reconcile the disagreements. I did mention about fights inside parliament, and eventually Somalia sending soldiers to bring peace. I mensioned a debate inside Somali parliament that rejects Ethiopia sending soldiers to Hargeisa, and eventually approve the federal forces to help keep the peace . My prediction was around 2020, but things are going in speed these days

^ lol O,O is a funny character.

In Tigray there are Agew, Afar, Kunama and Irob. Agew and Afar are just some border villages and some villages who change kilil every some odd years after seeing budget of two states. Irob are less than 100,000 (There are about 150,000 Saho in Eritrea) and Kunama are about 5,000 (There is more than 100,000 in Eritrea). Both have special wereda means status of zone, both are represented in house of federation, both have seats guaranteed seats in Tigray parliament. The Irob have seat at house of representatives as well. TV and radio broadcast have spots for both. Irob has no language issue for schooling since is written in Geez alphabet same as Tigray, Hareri and others. Kunama is written in Latin alphabet and this will be problem for other children that are in Kunama district. Radio broadcasts Afar but this is when they were both in Weyannie, they had joint radio called voice of Weyannie and still continues with Tigray and Afar languages. There are about 5 ethnics in Amhara. Out of 4 Agew areas only 2 have zones so far and one more has been recognized after Gonder massacre, but the zone has not been set up yet. No TV or radio program. No mother tongue schooling for 2 of the Agew. There is also Oromo area in Amhara state that is a zone and another Argoba similar to Hareri that is a special district zone. This was done from beginning 1995.

The people complaining in the video are actually from east Burco. They got used to Silanyo admin siding with them in the past but now are told to behave.

Why are you including the Somalis along with Oromo and Amhara in this particular incidents. Did you hear, read or see any mob action in Somali Region. The most orderly state. Even where the government was afraid the Somalis would be too angry to contain, people were taken in protective custody and when things cooled down returned to normal life. If you are a Somali, you should be pleased if not impressed and appreciative of what was done. Most Ethiopians are impressed and appreciate the Somali regional government. The Amhara killed and burned a judge with his house. This was mob action. The Oromo killed Somalis deep in their regional state far from border in mob action. Are you so turned with your hate of Tigray, you cannot see right from wrong. Not good for you. BTW the Amhara governemnt will take steps to bring order to these towns and the Oromo are arresting people that suspected of participating. Its in their interest to do so. The Oromo do not do it for the Somalis. They do it for themselves. They loose credibility as government and the rest of Ethiopians become suspicious. If someone is thinking straight, what do you think your first question was: If these people can do this when they complain do not have enough power in Ethiopia, imagine what they would do if they had the power they seem to want over Ethiopia. Would be meyhem. That is the question anyone with inquiring mind would ask. I can assure you the threat from Sudan did wonders to Eritrean government. It showed them, they will be the first once to go before Egypt. Dictators get the message very fast. If you were hoping Isayas will stand up to Sudan, then you either do not know Sudan or Eritrea.

Hello Holac, If it was in my neck of the woods and I had any capability to order arrests, the whole thing would not have happened. This is the same like warlords activities in Somalia. Only that in Ethiopia you have regional governments. The Amhara kilil is composed of the Agew, Argoba and others that are almost 50-50 to the Amhara. Whenever these peoles ask for something they are blamed for being too close to Tigray and the whole fracas starts. You might remember that last year Gonder was epicentre of such chaos. The Amhara government was challenged in the house of federation (senate) and ordered to allow the Agew tribe of Qimanti their own autonomous zone. It has not happened yet, but everything then went away. 140 Qimanti were killed and the Amhara governent did not arrest. Federal went there and cleaned house. Same thing will happen now in North Wollo as well. Its being blamed on supporeters of Tigray, but its just a cover. Now the Amhara government is moving fast, maybe a bit late, because if the Amhara started mob action burning investments in a poor country, nobody in his/her right mind will invest there. It is being led by facebook and twitter general command, but the local government should have moved faster. Same as Oromo. There was internet calls from some Somalis as well to retaliate, but Iley really moved fast and prevented what could have been catastrophic situation for the Oromo and to some degree for Somali as well. Example: In one of the towns, the mob burned the judge in his house. That is animal behaviour. Probably someone leading the mob had personal vendeta, since the judge is a local person as well. But the act is barbaric. I simply don't care what grievances they have. The Amhara government should arrest everyone involved in that mob and make a lesson out of them. The means you use to kill someone is an indication of savagery.